Originally posted by Pouf wow i'm Really and kinda pissed at the same time , I am not playing anymore but I got my full flamearmor set before leaving KNOWING that they said that end game gear will be best for a lot of time because progression will be horizontal.
Now I know that all the time I "wasted" doing cathedral of flame again and again to grind a set was "useless" since if I relog in 6 months my gear will probably be outdated by a lot.. Wow..
So this game really is like the other ones..
Meh.
Still use the skin?
Actually I rarely care about my look in a game, I just though if they release a RAID or some other big event i could try with best gear out, now I know I will need to gear myself again
Actually I rarely care about my look in a game, I just though if they release a RAID or some other big event i could try with best gear out, now I know I will need to gear myself again
Ah ok, Thought that you might of got some relief in the fact it could be used for vanity.
It may sound strange, But if my character can wear whatever i set, it takes the load off when "chasing the carrot" in other games.
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There are already three tiers of armor in GW2 this is tier 4.
Looks like end game is shaping up to go vertical
So now everyone will need to grind these dungeons to get top tier armor. lol!!
You don't have to grind for the gear.
You don't have to grind gear in any MMO. And yet GW2 fans make it sound that dungeon grind is compulsory in other MMOS.
Sorry but i am enjoying the sweet irony here. Do not disturb
If you want to raid in other games you have to "grind" dungeons or craft better gear. Games like WoW are made so that you need better gear to progress. WoW has like 18 tiers of endgame gear. Rift have alot aswell.
In GW2 you can do any content with any "tier" of gear. Rare - Extotic - Acended - Legendary. No gear will ever be better than Legendaries and Legendaries are not that mch better than Exotics, just slightly. the thing with GW2 is that combat is skill based and not gearbased like alot other mmorpgs.
There are already three tiers of armor in GW2 this is tier 4.
Looks like end game is shaping up to go vertical
So now everyone will need to grind these dungeons to get top tier armor. lol!!
Only the ones chasing top tier will be grinding. lol!!
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Originally posted by muffins89 yeah sounds like they caved.
They have no choice but to cave in, the only way they are going to keep people playing is through end level item grinding. The problem is no matter what new dungeons they bring in they are always going to be just a zerg rez fest.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Originally posted by muffins89 yeah sounds like they caved.
They have no choice but to cave in, the only way they are going to keep people playing is through end level item grinding. The problem is no matter what new dungeons they bring in they are always going to be just a zerg rez fest.
Have you done the dungeons or just parroting? They are not res zerging, if you play them right. Some of Rift's dungeons were zerg res fests before people figured them out - what has changed? OH, it is A.Net and GW2 is all. People get blinders on when it comes to this game.
Actually I rarely care about my look in a game, I just though if they release a RAID or some other big event i could try with best gear out, now I know I will need to gear myself again
It's still the best gear currently in-game, so you can use it to obtain Ascended stuff. Actually, Rares and Exotics are probably the best sets to wear when getting Ascended items. It's like wearing Rares while trying to get exotics.
I think people are blowing this out of proportion. Of course, this is be a big deal if aquiring Ascended stuff will be very time-consuming, but if it's like getting other tiers of gear, this change won't change how the game plays in a meaningful way.
Originally posted by muffins89yeah sounds like they caved.
They have no choice but to cave in, the only way they are going to keep people playing is through end level item grinding. The problem is no matter what new dungeons they bring in they are always going to be just a zerg rez fest.
Now correct me if im wrong, But should not their primary goal be to get people to buy from the Gem Store? Not seeing how setting vertical progression of gear outside the store is gona help that goal.
edit; ah..unless their charging for the new content?
Glad to see they are putting some new 'legendary-equivolent' armor in the game,
Doesn't that diminish the definition of legendary?
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Originally posted by muffins89yeah sounds like they caved.
They have no choice but to cave in, the only way they are going to keep people playing is through end level item grinding. The problem is no matter what new dungeons they bring in they are always going to be just a zerg rez fest.
Now correct me if im wrong, But should not their primary goal be to get people to buy from the Gem Store? Not seeing how setting vertical progression of gear outside the store is gona help that goal.
Uh, I think making the game fun should be their primary goal?
Actually I rarely care about my look in a game, I just though if they release a RAID or some other big event i could try with best gear out, now I know I will need to gear myself again
It's still the best gear currently in-game, so you can use it to obtain Ascended stuff. Actually, Rares and Exotics are probably the best sets to wear when getting Ascended items. It's like wearing Rares while trying to get exotics.
I think people are blowing this out of proportion. Of course, this is be a big deal if aquiring Ascended stuff will be very time-consuming, but if it's like getting other tiers of gear, this change won't change how the game plays in a meaningful way.
Yes i Know, but what I mean is that I will probably not try ascending dungeons for now because i'm on minecraft for a while with a friend waiting for Assasin creed 3 and some other game, but what scares me is that, In maybe 6months, some new dungeon will "required" ascending gear to be done correctly, and even as a "grinder/nolife" or watever, it is against what they said initially.
I still play wow from time to time and i'm used to regrinding gear it's allright, the only problem here is that Anet said that would be different.. Only time will tell
Originally posted by Scalpless Originally posted by NitthOriginally posted by RimmersmanOriginally posted by muffins89yeah sounds like they caved.
They have no choice but to cave in, the only way they are going to keep people playing is through end level item grinding. The problem is no matter what new dungeons they bring in they are always going to be just a zerg rez fest.Now correct me if im wrong, But should not their primary goal be to get people to buy from the Gem Store? Not seeing how setting vertical progression of gear outside the store is gona help that goal.Uh, I think making the game fun should be their primary goal?
Business perspective mate.
I know people would like to think they are only out to make the perfect 'fairy land' but they are in industry to make money primarily.
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Originally posted by muffins89 yeah sounds like they caved.
They have no choice but to cave in, the only way they are going to keep people playing is through end level item grinding. The problem is no matter what new dungeons they bring in they are always going to be just a zerg rez fest.
Have you done the dungeons or just parroting? They are not res zerging, if you play them right. Some of Rift's dungeons were zerg res fests before people figured them out - what has changed? OH, it is A.Net and GW2 is all. People get blinders on when it comes to this game.
They do (have blinders on). What I'm waiting for is to see if the armor sets they speak of for this dungeon are like the legendaries, only slightly better then the Exotics. If so this will end this nonsense right off the bat as it will show that it will be doubly unnecessary to grind for them but they added it in there so they can satisfy the needs of the crazed elitest jerk who has to prance around LA yelling "U Jelly?! while doing a /dance.
That pretty much sums up the gear progression player imo.
Actually I rarely care about my look in a game, I just though if they release a RAID or some other big event i could try with best gear out, now I know I will need to gear myself again
It's still the best gear currently in-game, so you can use it to obtain Ascended stuff. Actually, Rares and Exotics are probably the best sets to wear when getting Ascended items. It's like wearing Rares while trying to get exotics.
I think people are blowing this out of proportion. Of course, this is be a big deal if aquiring Ascended stuff will be very time-consuming, but if it's like getting other tiers of gear, this change won't change how the game plays in a meaningful way.
Yes i Know, but what I mean is that I will probably not try ascending dungeons for now because i'm on minecraft for a while with a friend waiting for Assasin creed 3 and some other game, but what scares me is that, In maybe 6months, some new dungeon will "required" ascending gear to be done correctly, and even as a "grinder/nolife" or watever, it is against what they said initially.
I still play wow from time to time and i'm used to regrinding gear it's allright, the only problem here is that Anet said that would be different.. Only time will tell
Yes, that would be a problem. I doubt they'd go that far, though. They did say something about expansions raising the level cap beyond 100, so clearly they want GW2 to have more vertical progression than GW1 has. Time will tell how much.
And when this dungeon is done with by the majority, they will create a new dungeon with T5 gear, wash rinse and repeat, every few months, 2 yrs later players will be on T12 gear, sound familiar?
They do (have blinders on). What I'm waiting for is to see if the armor sets they speak of for this dungeon are like the legendaries, only slightly better then the Exotics. If so this will end this nonsense right off the bat as it will show that it will be doubly unnecessary to grind for them but they added it in there so they can satisfy the needs of the crazed elitest jerk who has to prance around LA yelling "U Jelly?! while doing a /dance.
That pretty much sums up the gear progression player imo.
Either that or people like character development in their RPGs? If you cap the level at a relatively easy to obtain point, gear is the only thing that can really continue character development.
Bang goes gw2s usp. The usp been you can go play the latest single player game that came out for a week or two and not woody about being left begining.d when you return.
Originally posted by Entioch good, armor equality belongs in pvp and spvp, not pve :P
Um... PVE gear is used in WvW so this directly effects it. If they start forcing me down the dungeon/raiding path I will not give them another cent. They will also transform avid fans into avid bashers.
Originally posted by bcbully Gg. Let the "gear grind" begin muhahahhh lmao.
Its better to have gear to grind for than just having the grind
Now if they could just add some progression to leveling beyond 40 the game might actually manage to keep my interest beyond a couple of hours a month (if that)
Sorry - now GW2 is just like EVERY other game out there. They caved to the hardcore whiners and not worrying about the casual player. That is sad.
They caved to falling player numbers. Why would they cave for a minority group like hardcore players?
with the introduction to new enemy type "karka" and more info
Aside from being a new type of foe, the karka also bring in new mechanics and skills. Part of the event will involve players racing around Tyria to try to figure out how to damage these baddies. You see, as they mature, karka develop a nigh-impenetrable outer shell, which players will have to get through to start doing meaningful damage.
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Actually I rarely care about my look in a game, I just though if they release a RAID or some other big event i could try with best gear out, now I know I will need to gear myself again
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Ah ok, Thought that you might of got some relief in the fact it could be used for vanity.
It may sound strange, But if my character can wear whatever i set, it takes the load off when "chasing the carrot" in other games.
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If you want to raid in other games you have to "grind" dungeons or craft better gear. Games like WoW are made so that you need better gear to progress. WoW has like 18 tiers of endgame gear. Rift have alot aswell.
In GW2 you can do any content with any "tier" of gear. Rare - Extotic - Acended - Legendary. No gear will ever be better than Legendaries and Legendaries are not that mch better than Exotics, just slightly. the thing with GW2 is that combat is skill based and not gearbased like alot other mmorpgs.
Only the ones chasing top tier will be grinding. lol!!
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Play nice.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
They have no choice but to cave in, the only way they are going to keep people playing is through end level item grinding. The problem is no matter what new dungeons they bring in they are always going to be just a zerg rez fest.
Fine.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Have you done the dungeons or just parroting? They are not res zerging, if you play them right. Some of Rift's dungeons were zerg res fests before people figured them out - what has changed? OH, it is A.Net and GW2 is all. People get blinders on when it comes to this game.
It's still the best gear currently in-game, so you can use it to obtain Ascended stuff. Actually, Rares and Exotics are probably the best sets to wear when getting Ascended items. It's like wearing Rares while trying to get exotics.
I think people are blowing this out of proportion. Of course, this is be a big deal if aquiring Ascended stuff will be very time-consuming, but if it's like getting other tiers of gear, this change won't change how the game plays in a meaningful way.
Now correct me if im wrong, But should not their primary goal be to get people to buy from the Gem Store? Not seeing how setting vertical progression of gear outside the store is gona help that goal.
edit; ah..unless their charging for the new content?
Doesn't that diminish the definition of legendary?TSW - AoC - Aion - WOW - EVE - Fallen Earth - Co - Rift - || XNA C# Java Development
Uh, I think making the game fun should be their primary goal?
Yes i Know, but what I mean is that I will probably not try ascending dungeons for now because i'm on minecraft for a while with a friend waiting for Assasin creed 3 and some other game, but what scares me is that, In maybe 6months, some new dungeon will "required" ascending gear to be done correctly, and even as a "grinder/nolife" or watever, it is against what they said initially.
I still play wow from time to time and i'm used to regrinding gear it's allright, the only problem here is that Anet said that would be different.. Only time will tell
Now correct me if im wrong, But should not their primary goal be to get people to buy from the Gem Store? Not seeing how setting vertical progression of gear outside the store is gona help that goal.
Uh, I think making the game fun should be their primary goal?
Business perspective mate.
I know people would like to think they are only out to make the perfect 'fairy land' but they are in industry to make money primarily.
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They do (have blinders on). What I'm waiting for is to see if the armor sets they speak of for this dungeon are like the legendaries, only slightly better then the Exotics. If so this will end this nonsense right off the bat as it will show that it will be doubly unnecessary to grind for them but they added it in there so they can satisfy the needs of the crazed elitest jerk who has to prance around LA yelling "U Jelly?! while doing a /dance.
That pretty much sums up the gear progression player imo.
Yes, that would be a problem. I doubt they'd go that far, though. They did say something about expansions raising the level cap beyond 100, so clearly they want GW2 to have more vertical progression than GW1 has. Time will tell how much.
Either that or people like character development in their RPGs? If you cap the level at a relatively easy to obtain point, gear is the only thing that can really continue character development.
The usp been you can go play the latest single player game that came out for a week or two and not woody about being left begining.d when you return.
Um... PVE gear is used in WvW so this directly effects it. If they start forcing me down the dungeon/raiding path I will not give them another cent. They will also transform avid fans into avid bashers.
Now WvW becomes even more pve to pvp (the cost of it, then this change)
They caved to falling player numbers. Why would they cave for a minority group like hardcore players?
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if you didnt played Gw1 and dont know what infusion and insignias are
you should read
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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Insignia
with the introduction to new enemy type "karka" and more info
you already should figure it out
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