I would have to get to play the beta or the game itself, then I would have to think it was the greatest thing I have played in a long time, and feel like I was going to play it a long time. I played EQ/UO for 6-8 years each, and I am not a mmo jumper traditionally. Then it would have to be really worth it, if it was saving a couple bucks a month, it is not worth putting my money out there in advance.
Their f2p model would also have to do a couple things, it would have to not turn me off and push the lines of what I thought was p2w, but ride that line to where it would be worth it to sub the game. I am not sure what that area is, as I am not a big f2p player. I have played f2p games, but not mmos.
So if EQN existed in that small window, I felt like it was going to be something I would play for 1+ years, and I deemed it a good value risk/money wise, then yes. I have the money to do it, but it doesn't mean I should throw it away. I generally am pretty picky about what I will play, even if it is f2p, b2p and such.
If the game turns out to be something I can see myself playing, I'd plunk down a lifetime purchase. I have enough disposable income that $200 is not significant, and does not carry any risk. For me, there is only an upside, which carries no potential for a downside.
Originally posted by keenber Yes . I am going to invest a lot of cash in this game because it will be my last MMO. I have wasted $1000s on crap mmos in the last 10 year and i am finished .IF EQN is crap also then i wont waste any more and take up golf or something else. So i do hope SOE can pull it off again and create something that will give me memories like EQ did.
I took up golf a few months back and love it. I highly recommend it. My MMO time since then has dropped way down, and I don't miss it one bit.
Main issue is I don't ever see SOE offering one... simply because they try to pimp Station Access. Which isn't a bad deal at all if you actually play a few of their games (my opinion).
Beyond that... It would depend. There are a few games that I played for years and paid a subscription. One could just as easily argue that its stupid not to buy a lifetime pack.. in that case. Then again that's why its stupid for a company to offer them... the entire premise has to be that you will not stick around from their side. As a customer after a certain point if you were playing a sub game then its definitely a deal.
Once you get into F2P what's the point? As you could just buy SC when you want it and wait for 2x or 3x specials.
Regardless as I said offering a lifetime pack for their *new* flagship product, would be a huge minus for their Station Access offering. So the real question is.. why would SOE want to offer one?
Even with Dragon's Prophet the "200 dollar deal" was for a bunch of crap and what was pretty much 200 dollars in SC (as opposed to what Funcom turned their founder's packs into as an example). Oh and um yes I do pay attention to various offering that have been around .. even for games I will never play (aka Dragon's Prophet).
Seeing as I spent that with Neverwinter its safe to bet that I would spend that much on a EQN Founder Pack but only if it is the game I want it to be. If it turns out to have boring tab target combat or it is a FFA PvP centric game I will quietly leave this sub forum and curse the name EQN under my breath.
Extremely hyped right now but only because I know a sandbox can be more then a PvP game, the world is ready for the first true PvE sandbox game IMO and I have strong indication EQN might just be it.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
i'd have to be EXTREMELY impressed by the game to buy anything. especially when the game is free to play otherwise. I've been enjoying Neverwinter for 2 months now, yet to spend a penny and no plans to.
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playing an MMORPG?"
Well a lot of people are commenting on the lack of details that the game has released, however, we all know that this will not be the case after SoE Live... we should know more than enough to make an educated decision. If I liked what I saw, a $200 Founders pack would not be out of the question. (hopefully I would be able to participate in some sort of Beta as well)
Sight unseen I would never pay $200. But if the game seems that its living up to all the hype I would consider paying the $200. I usually only play one game at a time so if I got a few years out of it $200 is a good deal.
Not sure why some people don't like them offering it. If you play for more than a year it is worth it. I am happy with my TSW lifetime sub, even though the game is now B2P (essentially F2P since copies are what? $10.00?)
If they offer it and the game has a soul, I'll certainly shell out the extra cash.
I wouldn't if I had to buy before I knew what the game was like and the release features (not the advertised ones). Another no go would be if a sub model was not available or wasn't worth it when compared to F2P.
If it's the game I hope it will be and has a sub model worth it of course I would, it would be foolish for me not to. I plan to pay a sub and one year is 179.88 if I paid monthly, 119.88 if I paid up front for one year.
Just the lifetime sub alone would be worth the 200.00. Add in discounts, perks and probably a collectible of some kind and it's a no brainer. I woulsnt factor in the 500SC becuase subs already get that in SoE games.
I guess it depends on how deep the game is and how long I think I will play it.
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I would have to get to play the beta or the game itself, then I would have to think it was the greatest thing I have played in a long time, and feel like I was going to play it a long time. I played EQ/UO for 6-8 years each, and I am not a mmo jumper traditionally. Then it would have to be really worth it, if it was saving a couple bucks a month, it is not worth putting my money out there in advance.
Their f2p model would also have to do a couple things, it would have to not turn me off and push the lines of what I thought was p2w, but ride that line to where it would be worth it to sub the game. I am not sure what that area is, as I am not a big f2p player. I have played f2p games, but not mmos.
So if EQN existed in that small window, I felt like it was going to be something I would play for 1+ years, and I deemed it a good value risk/money wise, then yes. I have the money to do it, but it doesn't mean I should throw it away. I generally am pretty picky about what I will play, even if it is f2p, b2p and such.
$200 for a mystery box, hmmm...
can i get a boat instead?
Months before launch: Never
One month after launch: Maybe
I took up golf a few months back and love it. I highly recommend it. My MMO time since then has dropped way down, and I don't miss it one bit.
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Main issue is I don't ever see SOE offering one... simply because they try to pimp Station Access. Which isn't a bad deal at all if you actually play a few of their games (my opinion).
Beyond that... It would depend. There are a few games that I played for years and paid a subscription. One could just as easily argue that its stupid not to buy a lifetime pack.. in that case. Then again that's why its stupid for a company to offer them... the entire premise has to be that you will not stick around from their side. As a customer after a certain point if you were playing a sub game then its definitely a deal.
Once you get into F2P what's the point? As you could just buy SC when you want it and wait for 2x or 3x specials.
Regardless as I said offering a lifetime pack for their *new* flagship product, would be a huge minus for their Station Access offering. So the real question is.. why would SOE want to offer one?
Even with Dragon's Prophet the "200 dollar deal" was for a bunch of crap and what was pretty much 200 dollars in SC (as opposed to what Funcom turned their founder's packs into as an example). Oh and um yes I do pay attention to various offering that have been around .. even for games I will never play (aka Dragon's Prophet).
After SWTOR? Never.
I don't even pre-order any more.
Took the words right out of my mouth...
Seeing as I spent that with Neverwinter its safe to bet that I would spend that much on a EQN Founder Pack but only if it is the game I want it to be. If it turns out to have boring tab target combat or it is a FFA PvP centric game I will quietly leave this sub forum and curse the name EQN under my breath.
Extremely hyped right now but only because I know a sandbox can be more then a PvP game, the world is ready for the first true PvE sandbox game IMO and I have strong indication EQN might just be it.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
I have probably the most important question of all:
Will the game be any good to justify a lifetime sub at $200? will the game meet my tastes? Will I even play long enough to justify the $200 bill?
ok that was 3 questions.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
Same here. Cheap tactics that feels like they don't have confidence in their game.
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FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
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I miss DAoC
I just won't pay that without playing the game.
Because face it, a lot of MMOs are fun for a week and then you slowly start to not login. And then its over once that happens.
Even after August 2nd I wouldnt do that, I want to PLAY the game before I invest $200 into that.
I'll pay $200 if they make a Server with NO cash shop
Plus I really need to see all the features and some ingame footage before spending that kind of money.
But in principle, given the right conditions, I could spend $200
Not sure why some people don't like them offering it. If you play for more than a year it is worth it. I am happy with my TSW lifetime sub, even though the game is now B2P (essentially F2P since copies are what? $10.00?)
If they offer it and the game has a soul, I'll certainly shell out the extra cash.
If it's the game I hope it will be and has a sub model worth it of course I would, it would be foolish for me not to. I plan to pay a sub and one year is 179.88 if I paid monthly, 119.88 if I paid up front for one year.
Just the lifetime sub alone would be worth the 200.00. Add in discounts, perks and probably a collectible of some kind and it's a no brainer. I woulsnt factor in the 500SC becuase subs already get that in SoE games.
I guess it depends on how deep the game is and how long I think I will play it.