the only thing that you can do completely is the story other than that, everything is restricted.
It is their game. The devs are free to restrict in any way they want. You don't have to play the game.
And this is a thread asking a question about peoples opinions regarding the game's model. How about instead of a lot of you self righteous post attackers answer the question rather than flaming people for their opinions. I do not play F2P games for the most part but that doesn't mean I can't form a constructive opinion on SWTOR's model. I do find it sad that many of you are so defensive you can't answer the question without belittling other people and jump to the conclusion that anyone who thinks the games model is shit must be a person with a cup out looking for freebies. The game was not worth the sub and it went F2P because of it and now this is what they have. Not worth the sub and not worth the restrictions.
Because your opinion does not matter. Surely this game does not do it for you ... you know that it works, right? They have subs, they have free players, and they make enough to expand the game.
But the larger point is this ... so what if you think it is too restricted, or not enough. They do what they do .. and you can choose to ignore them, or play the game.
You ask 100 people, and there will be 100 answers.
BTW, i don't play this game but it is just funny that people would think it would matter to rant about restrictions of a free-to-play game.
BTW I don't play the game either but I find it funny when people come into a discussion board and tell people they should not discuss the topic being put forth. My opinion does not matter in the grand scheme of the game but I am not on their forum crying about restrictions. I am here answering the OP. Also the OP wasn't asking if it worked or not, only peoples thoughts on the system in place. Man peoples reading comprehension at times.... I have already chosen to ignore the game, but I still find nothing wrong with answering others concerns regarding their issues with the game because ya know... this is the place for that...
the only thing that you can do completely is the story other than that, everything is restricted.
It is their game. The devs are free to restrict in any way they want. You don't have to play the game.
And this is a thread asking a question about peoples opinions regarding the game's model. How about instead of a lot of you self righteous post attackers answer the question rather than flaming people for their opinions. I do not play F2P games for the most part but that doesn't mean I can't form a constructive opinion on SWTOR's model. I do find it sad that many of you are so defensive you can't answer the question without belittling other people and jump to the conclusion that anyone who thinks the games model is shit must be a person with a cup out looking for freebies. The game was not worth the sub and it went F2P because of it and now this is what they have. Not worth the sub and not worth the restrictions.
Thank you for answering the topic. you get a pat on the back.
"Fear & Desire are weapons in my life's pursuit" @KrewellaJahan
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
So which is it?
how are you a complete cheapskate if you want to play the full game but not pay for it?
"Fear & Desire are weapons in my life's pursuit" @KrewellaJahan
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
So which is it?
how are you a complete cheapskate if you want to play the full game but not pay for it?
I can't tell is that is a serious response or not.
Because the full game costs money. It costs the devs money to make it and it costs them money to present.
Why should you get the whole thing for free.
You can't understand why you would be considered a complete cheapskate when you want the entire game for free? Serious? You don't understand why that is considered being a cheapskate?
That is pretty much the very definition of cheapskate - a person that doesn't want to spend money, a stingy person. You want the whole thing free. Well you can't have it.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
So which is it?
how are you a complete cheapskate if you want to play the full game but not pay for it?
I can't tell is that is a serious response or not.
Because the full game costs money. It costs the devs money to make it and it costs them money to present.
Why should you get the whole thing for free.
You can't understand why you would be considered a complete cheapskate when you want the entire game for free? Serious? You don't understand why that is considered being a cheapskate?
That is pretty much the very definition of cheapskate - a person that doesn't want to spend money, a stingy person. You want the whole thing free. Well you can't have it.
They advertise it a s free to play. There will be people playing for free. They will ask for more free stuff, or they will go play another free game. The developers offer them this.
Spending money is your choice. The free players will get more and more free, because people will spend more and more to have what they think others want.
Play a game that makes it's money from being a good game if you don't like free players getting more and more.
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
So which is it?
how are you a complete cheapskate if you want to play the full game but not pay for it?
I can't tell is that is a serious response or not.
Because the full game costs money. It costs the devs money to make it and it costs them money to present.
Why should you get the whole thing for free.
You can't understand why you would be considered a complete cheapskate when you want the entire game for free? Serious? You don't understand why that is considered being a cheapskate?
That is pretty much the very definition of cheapskate - a person that doesn't want to spend money, a stingy person. You want the whole thing free. Well you can't have it.
They advertise it a s free to play. There will be people playing for free. They will ask for more free stuff, or they will go play another free game. The developers offer them this.
Spending money is your choice. The free players will get more and more free, because people will spend more and more to have what they think others want.
Play a game that makes it's money from being a good game if you don't like free players getting more and more.
Yes there are people playing it free and you can play it free, a huge portion including all levels and classes.
He wants the entire game free which is very different from what they say or what is offered.
I have no problem with players getting free things.
I have a big problem with players expecting to get everything free - then ranting about how they can't play the whole thing free.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
So which is it?
how are you a complete cheapskate if you want to play the full game but not pay for it?
I can't tell is that is a serious response or not.
Because the full game costs money. It costs the devs money to make it and it costs them money to present.
Why should you get the whole thing for free.
You can't understand why you would be considered a complete cheapskate when you want the entire game for free? Serious? You don't understand why that is considered being a cheapskate?
That is pretty much the very definition of cheapskate - a person that doesn't want to spend money, a stingy person. You want the whole thing free. Well you can't have it.
They advertise it a s free to play. There will be people playing for free. They will ask for more free stuff, or they will go play another free game. The developers offer them this.
Spending money is your choice. The free players will get more and more free, because people will spend more and more to have what they think others want.
Play a game that makes it's money from being a good game if you don't like free players getting more and more.
Yes there are people playing it free and you can play it free, a huge portion including all levels and classes.
He wants the entire game free which is very different from what they say or what is offered.
I have no problem with players getting free things.
I have a big problem with players expecting to get everything free - then ranting about how they can't play the whole thing free.
Of coarse you guys have a problem with it.
Most of it is marketing to get people to spend more. There isn't a bunch of people who want what the paying customers have.
Most people won't play regardless of cost.
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
So which is it?
how are you a complete cheapskate if you want to play the full game but not pay for it?
I can't tell is that is a serious response or not.
Because the full game costs money. It costs the devs money to make it and it costs them money to present.
Why should you get the whole thing for free.
You can't understand why you would be considered a complete cheapskate when you want the entire game for free? Serious? You don't understand why that is considered being a cheapskate?
That is pretty much the very definition of cheapskate - a person that doesn't want to spend money, a stingy person. You want the whole thing free. Well you can't have it.
They advertise it a s free to play. There will be people playing for free. They will ask for more free stuff, or they will go play another free game. The developers offer them this.
Spending money is your choice. The free players will get more and more free, because people will spend more and more to have what they think others want.
Play a game that makes it's money from being a good game if you don't like free players getting more and more.
Yes there are people playing it free and you can play it free, a huge portion including all levels and classes.
He wants the entire game free which is very different from what they say or what is offered.
I have no problem with players getting free things.
I have a big problem with players expecting to get everything free - then ranting about how they can't play the whole thing free.
Of coarse you guys have a problem with it.
Most of it is marketing to get people to spend more. There isn't a bunch of people who want what the paying customers have.
Most people won't play regardless of cost.
I'm not even sure what you are arguing anymore.
"Of course you guys have a problem with it"
What guys? And problem with what - f2p? paying for things?
I"m not for or against f2p or b2p or p2p - I really could care less about the payment model. People whining about not getting everything free they want for free - that is the issue.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
Originally posted by gluurs Originally posted by GotterdammerGotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
This would have made a good image for your post.
But no, you just went with typing a tiny bit of text. Bah.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
So which is it?
how are you a complete cheapskate if you want to play the full game but not pay for it?
I can't tell is that is a serious response or not.
Because the full game costs money. It costs the devs money to make it and it costs them money to present.
Why should you get the whole thing for free.
You can't understand why you would be considered a complete cheapskate when you want the entire game for free? Serious? You don't understand why that is considered being a cheapskate?
That is pretty much the very definition of cheapskate - a person that doesn't want to spend money, a stingy person. You want the whole thing free. Well you can't have it.
They advertise it a s free to play. There will be people playing for free. They will ask for more free stuff, or they will go play another free game. The developers offer them this.
Spending money is your choice. The free players will get more and more free, because people will spend more and more to have what they think others want.
Play a game that makes it's money from being a good game if you don't like free players getting more and more.
Yes there are people playing it free and you can play it free, a huge portion including all levels and classes.
He wants the entire game free which is very different from what they say or what is offered.
I have no problem with players getting free things.
I have a big problem with players expecting to get everything free - then ranting about how they can't play the whole thing free.
Of coarse you guys have a problem with it.
Most of it is marketing to get people to spend more. There isn't a bunch of people who want what the paying customers have.
Most people won't play regardless of cost.
I'm not even sure what you are arguing anymore.
"Of course you guys have a problem with it"
What guys? And problem with what - f2p? paying for things?
I"m not for or against f2p or b2p or p2p - I really could care less about the payment model. People whining about not getting everything free they want for free - that is the issue.
It's not even an issue. It's marketing.
In your post you said "you" have a "big problem" with players wanting everything. I assumed it meant "you" had a "problem" with "what you said you had a problem with".
My opinion was, "you" are supposed to have a "problem" , just like "you" said "you" had a "problem" with free players wanting everything that paid players have because it will increase sales and perceived value to the paying player.
Is that more clear as to what Im replying to?
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
Originally posted by AzurePrower The problem with the F2P/Preferred status, is that the point of it was to entice players to keep playing and purchase a sub (again).It does not do that.That is what the complaint is about. F2P/Preferred status feels broken. Unplayable.
It's keeping a million people playing. That's not too bad.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
They should switch to a Live Action Billing type system. The Game is completely free if you enter a valid payment option like a credit card. You can "tip" at any time for any amount. A true way to measure the value of the experience offered with live data to prove it.
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
Does anyone care about the people with the "entitlement mentality" or complain because something is not "free enough" nope the majority in RL society think these people are are a drain on the community and most in the video game community think these people are a drain on the community.
The "entitlement mentality" and complaining something "isn't free enough" don't work in real life and don't work in a video game.
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
So which is it?
+20. It boils down to exactly this.
Proof?
"Fear & Desire are weapons in my life's pursuit" @KrewellaJahan
All I see is that some gamers play every shit, its estimated that around 2 million are playing this game monthly. They even dont get a game for it, its just a part of it when you add all these limitations and it starts already with the UI. Allegedly 500.000 out of the 2 million are subscribers.
Again, all I see is that some gamers play every shit if it is free for them, no wonder that companies are successfull with F2P games when it comes to overall numbers since such players are not critical at all.
All I see is that some gamers play every shit, its estimated that around 2 million are playing this game monthly. They even dont get a game for it, its just a part of it when you add all these limitations and it starts already with the UI. Allegedly 500.000 out of the 2 million are subscribers.
Again, all I see is that some gamers play every shit if it is free for them, no wonder that companies are successfull with F2P games when it comes to overall numbers since such players are not critical at all.
So im confused what you are talking about.
"Fear & Desire are weapons in my life's pursuit" @KrewellaJahan
Not at all, but I like the game enough to sub to it. When I played F2P, I lived with the restriction's. Although I admit when they put a charge for hotbar's, I had a good laugh.
What makes me not want to play it is the fact though i was a fonder purchaser of the game at launch. I am forced when I want to F2P again to change all my names of my characters because they sold my names basically to the premium members. Such a money grubbing thing to do to anyone, that instantly made me not want to come back at all. Not only do I have to delete a few guys to get under the 5 player cap but now i have to rename them. It was a classless move to me as a MMORPG player.
Can you play SWToR f2p at a competitive level, yes.
Is playing SWToR f2p exactly easy beyond the character story, no.
Most of the successful f2p players trade credits for unlocks. This is easiest when you are good at AH manipulation and pricing. I have a couple of players in guild who are very smart guys and raid and pvp every week as f2p.
What makes me not want to play it is the fact though i was a fonder purchaser of the game at launch. I am forced when I want to F2P again to change all my names of my characters because they sold my names basically to the premium members. Such a money grubbing thing to do to anyone, that instantly made me not want to come back at all. Not only do I have to delete a few guys to get under the 5 player cap but now i have to rename them. It was a classless move to me as a MMORPG player.
Ok you clearly have no idea what your talking about.
FIrst it didnt matter if you were a f2p or a premium player. If you didnt play for 90 or somehting not sure on the exact time they removed your name this had nothing to do with a money grab. How did they sell your name? So basically your thoughts on this are dead wrong.
I am going to guess that one you could easily rename your toons their old names or a different way i.e old name drewdoesntknowswtor new name drewdoesntknowtor. I understand thinking of names can be hard for some.
I am also going to guess if you are not coming back to swtor because your names (emails multiple emails were sent out about this btw) were deleted your toons were not past level 10, and taking up names for people who actually play the game. I dont see an issue with at all.
Also its becoming the norm Rift did it, AoC has done it, and in no way is it a money grab.
Originally posted by Gotterdammer Gotta love that classic gamer sense of entitlement. If you want to play the full game, pay for it. End of story.
No.
And this sums up the entire thread.
There are only 2 possible responses now.
1. Either you don't want to play the full game, in which case your thread is useless because your not playing the full game
or
2. You do want to play the full game and you just don't want to pay for it. In which case you are a complete cheapskate, whiner and a have a huge sense of entitlement.
So which is it?
how are you a complete cheapskate if you want to play the full game but not pay for it?
Lets see your first post is jacked so its either I want to subscribe to a game but don't have any money, or I don't want to subscribe to a game and don't have any money. Regardless the point is you don't want to pay for anything.
And why should you frankly? Why should you spend your money, which you don't have, reason being I could go in depth, but I'll say after reading your responses your less than 20 years old, or English is not your native language, you have an internet connection so I am assuming you live with family, and your computer is not up to date well since you had to remove a game to install another one (meaning lack of Hard drive space, though you could just install everything, but you specifically mentioned Rift by name and its less than 20gb)
But lets answer this question. People had to make this game. Now I understand the whole fact that we all can't stand EA bla bla bla, stick it to the CEO atta boy! But on the other hand, you got Joe who got 2 kids and a wife, a mortgage, and a car payment still slowly tearing down his college loans that needs to keep his job cause he is one of the few left working on it and if they dip below certain money income value for X amount of months, his butt is fired. Now his scenario is all to common in nearly all places of work nowadays and software is no exception. So with that said, maybe you should toss the normal person, like you and me, an atta boy and send this evil empire of a corporation some cash so maybe they keep Joe on the payroll until he either retires (highly unlikely), or gets his resume built up enough to get hired somewhere else (most likely) or some other positive outcome he ends up meeting.
You like a product that is free to start, you purchase it. Why? Because some dude or gal made it and got paid for it, and just maybe they still work at that company and would like to keep their job. But I regress maybe your not old enough or mature enough to understand that we all gotta eat and if you get something, you should give something in return, especially in industries that are related to the entertainment business.
Out of all the free to play games SWTOR has the worst one.. They shoundn't even be free to play lol.. What a scam.... Its like they made the free to play so a player can just play through the story and that's all.. After that they leave lol.. They are loosing so much money that they could have earned other wise... I have $100 that I want to spend on a game... At first i was going to spend it on swtor but then I said to my self they there free to play model is crap so i spent it on other games lol..... So funny really.....
I don't think swtor really under stands what a free to play model is for....... Its a shame because that game could be doing a lot beter then what it is atm...
I play Warframe, Rift, City of Steam, STO..... and a lot of others.. Out of all the free to play games that i have played Rift is number 1 out of all them.. There free to play model is so good that it makes you want to spend money, lol..... Warframe is number 2... You don't need to spend a dime on that game but it makes you want to spend money on it.. This is how a free to play model should be....
you Think the free to play model in SWTOR is a SCAM , It's a model that let's you play a very expensive game for free ..Sure there are some restrictions, thank the guys at Bioware for that, because othervise maybe they would have to put up with guys like you.. Ohh Sorry, they actually do have to put up with guys like you, just so they can get a subscriber once in a while.
You talk about other games that "makes" you want to spend Money, but my guess you haven't. And if they are so free of restrictions as you say, It's even more perfect for freeloaders to play end refuse to pay,
If you ask me there should not be any Free to play models at all.
Only scammers around is players that belives that Everything should be free and I should be alowed to come and go as I please in any game without cost .
Do you REALLY belive that If McDonalds started to hand out free meals to everyone . the majority of these free eaters would still pay for a meal once or twice just to support the other free meals they have had ? Sounds like a brilliant buisness plan
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the irony in this thread is hilarious.
MMORPG hates F2P love sub
SWTOR makes a game that is restrictive to F2P player and unlocked everything for sub players. You would think everyone would love this.
BTW I don't play the game either but I find it funny when people come into a discussion board and tell people they should not discuss the topic being put forth. My opinion does not matter in the grand scheme of the game but I am not on their forum crying about restrictions. I am here answering the OP. Also the OP wasn't asking if it worked or not, only peoples thoughts on the system in place. Man peoples reading comprehension at times.... I have already chosen to ignore the game, but I still find nothing wrong with answering others concerns regarding their issues with the game because ya know... this is the place for that...
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
Thank you for answering the topic. you get a pat on the back.
"Fear & Desire are weapons in my life's pursuit"
@KrewellaJahan
how are you a complete cheapskate if you want to play the full game but not pay for it?
"Fear & Desire are weapons in my life's pursuit"
@KrewellaJahan
I can't tell is that is a serious response or not.
Because the full game costs money. It costs the devs money to make it and it costs them money to present.
Why should you get the whole thing for free.
You can't understand why you would be considered a complete cheapskate when you want the entire game for free? Serious? You don't understand why that is considered being a cheapskate?
That is pretty much the very definition of cheapskate - a person that doesn't want to spend money, a stingy person. You want the whole thing free. Well you can't have it.
They advertise it a s free to play. There will be people playing for free. They will ask for more free stuff, or they will go play another free game. The developers offer them this.
Spending money is your choice. The free players will get more and more free, because people will spend more and more to have what they think others want.
Play a game that makes it's money from being a good game if you don't like free players getting more and more.
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
Yes there are people playing it free and you can play it free, a huge portion including all levels and classes.
He wants the entire game free which is very different from what they say or what is offered.
I have no problem with players getting free things.
I have a big problem with players expecting to get everything free - then ranting about how they can't play the whole thing free.
Of coarse you guys have a problem with it.
Most of it is marketing to get people to spend more. There isn't a bunch of people who want what the paying customers have.
Most people won't play regardless of cost.
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
I'm not even sure what you are arguing anymore.
"Of course you guys have a problem with it"
What guys? And problem with what - f2p? paying for things?
I"m not for or against f2p or b2p or p2p - I really could care less about the payment model. People whining about not getting everything free they want for free - that is the issue.
This would have made a good image for your post.
But no, you just went with typing a tiny bit of text. Bah.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
The problem with the F2P/Preferred status, is that the point of it was to entice players to keep playing and purchase a sub (again).
It does not do that.
That is what the complaint is about. F2P/Preferred status feels broken. Unplayable.
-Azure Prower
http://www.youtube.com/AzurePrower
It's not even an issue. It's marketing.
In your post you said "you" have a "big problem" with players wanting everything. I assumed it meant "you" had a "problem" with "what you said you had a problem with".
My opinion was, "you" are supposed to have a "problem" , just like "you" said "you" had a "problem" with free players wanting everything that paid players have because it will increase sales and perceived value to the paying player.
Is that more clear as to what Im replying to?
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
It's keeping a million people playing. That's not too bad.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
Does anyone care about the people with the "entitlement mentality" or complain because something is not "free enough" nope the majority in RL society think these people are are a drain on the community and most in the video game community think these people are a drain on the community.
The "entitlement mentality" and complaining something "isn't free enough" don't work in real life and don't work in a video game.
+20. It boils down to exactly this.
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Proof?
"Fear & Desire are weapons in my life's pursuit"
@KrewellaJahan
All I see is that some gamers play every shit, its estimated that around 2 million are playing this game monthly. They even dont get a game for it, its just a part of it when you add all these limitations and it starts already with the UI. Allegedly 500.000 out of the 2 million are subscribers.
Again, all I see is that some gamers play every shit if it is free for them, no wonder that companies are successfull with F2P games when it comes to overall numbers since such players are not critical at all.
So im confused what you are talking about.
"Fear & Desire are weapons in my life's pursuit"
@KrewellaJahan
What makes me not want to play it is the fact though i was a fonder purchaser of the game at launch. I am forced when I want to F2P again to change all my names of my characters because they sold my names basically to the premium members. Such a money grubbing thing to do to anyone, that instantly made me not want to come back at all. Not only do I have to delete a few guys to get under the 5 player cap but now i have to rename them. It was a classless move to me as a MMORPG player.
Can you play SWToR f2p at a competitive level, yes.
Is playing SWToR f2p exactly easy beyond the character story, no.
Most of the successful f2p players trade credits for unlocks. This is easiest when you are good at AH manipulation and pricing. I have a couple of players in guild who are very smart guys and raid and pvp every week as f2p.
Here is a guide from another site to get you started ( http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/08/27/hyperspace-beacon-winning-at-swtors-free-to-play/ ).
Ok you clearly have no idea what your talking about.
FIrst it didnt matter if you were a f2p or a premium player. If you didnt play for 90 or somehting not sure on the exact time they removed your name this had nothing to do with a money grab. How did they sell your name? So basically your thoughts on this are dead wrong.
I am going to guess that one you could easily rename your toons their old names or a different way i.e old name drewdoesntknowswtor new name drewdoesntknowtor. I understand thinking of names can be hard for some.
I am also going to guess if you are not coming back to swtor because your names (emails multiple emails were sent out about this btw) were deleted your toons were not past level 10, and taking up names for people who actually play the game. I dont see an issue with at all.
Also its becoming the norm Rift did it, AoC has done it, and in no way is it a money grab.
Lets see your first post is jacked so its either I want to subscribe to a game but don't have any money, or I don't want to subscribe to a game and don't have any money. Regardless the point is you don't want to pay for anything.
And why should you frankly? Why should you spend your money, which you don't have, reason being I could go in depth, but I'll say after reading your responses your less than 20 years old, or English is not your native language, you have an internet connection so I am assuming you live with family, and your computer is not up to date well since you had to remove a game to install another one (meaning lack of Hard drive space, though you could just install everything, but you specifically mentioned Rift by name and its less than 20gb)
But lets answer this question. People had to make this game. Now I understand the whole fact that we all can't stand EA bla bla bla, stick it to the CEO atta boy! But on the other hand, you got Joe who got 2 kids and a wife, a mortgage, and a car payment still slowly tearing down his college loans that needs to keep his job cause he is one of the few left working on it and if they dip below certain money income value for X amount of months, his butt is fired. Now his scenario is all to common in nearly all places of work nowadays and software is no exception. So with that said, maybe you should toss the normal person, like you and me, an atta boy and send this evil empire of a corporation some cash so maybe they keep Joe on the payroll until he either retires (highly unlikely), or gets his resume built up enough to get hired somewhere else (most likely) or some other positive outcome he ends up meeting.
You like a product that is free to start, you purchase it. Why? Because some dude or gal made it and got paid for it, and just maybe they still work at that company and would like to keep their job. But I regress maybe your not old enough or mature enough to understand that we all gotta eat and if you get something, you should give something in return, especially in industries that are related to the entertainment business.
you Think the free to play model in SWTOR is a SCAM , It's a model that let's you play a very expensive game for free ..Sure there are some restrictions, thank the guys at Bioware for that, because othervise maybe they would have to put up with guys like you.. Ohh Sorry, they actually do have to put up with guys like you, just so they can get a subscriber once in a while.
You talk about other games that "makes" you want to spend Money, but my guess you haven't. And if they are so free of restrictions as you say, It's even more perfect for freeloaders to play end refuse to pay,
If you ask me there should not be any Free to play models at all.
Only scammers around is players that belives that Everything should be free and I should be alowed to come and go as I please in any game without cost .
Do you REALLY belive that If McDonalds started to hand out free meals to everyone . the majority of these free eaters would still pay for a meal once or twice just to support the other free meals they have had ? Sounds like a brilliant buisness plan