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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,481
    Originally posted by DocBrody
    Originally posted by CrazKanuk
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Seems the sandbox people are unhappy

    I don't think that sandbox people are ever happy, are they? They're like the "More Cowbell" guys of the MMO universe. "I've got a fever, and the only cure is MORE SANDBOX!" 

     

     

    right, strange isn't it? With the dozens of awesome triple A player driven sandbox MMOs currently on the market!

    oh wait

    You have to ask yourself if maybe there's a reason --  other than developers are just meanies!

     

    Even chasing the WoW dragon isn't a good enough excuse....

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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,481

    I'm in the Beta and I'm not buying it. 

     

    Though I wasn't positively inclined in the first place.  Don't care about the pvp and disliked the basic design elements required to fit ESO to the DAoC2 model.  The Beta had a chance to change my mind, but failed.   I did find some bugs at least, so that's good....

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  • KenFisherKenFisher Member UncommonPosts: 5,035

    No opinion.  Not excited, not unhappy, pretty much not interested.

     

    This might change, might not.  Not really concerned either way.

     

    All aboard the hype train?  No thanks.  I'll take the bus.

     

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  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    In beta, after first day of the 3 deleted, and won t be buying. 2nd only to GW2 in the last 2 years, as worst MMO, I ve tried, played, or was in beta.
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    I'm not buying it and I have not played it. The same way I can tell playing Roshambo is a stupid idea I can tell with the information available ESO is not for me and I loved Skyrim, Oblivion and Morrowind.

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  • A1learjetA1learjet Member UncommonPosts: 258

    Happy with what I saw and game will do fine 

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  • funyahnsfunyahns Member Posts: 315
    Originally posted by fistorm

    AMAZING!!!!! Look at those numbers.!....

     

     Yes, i am going to play for sure - 41.8%

     No, i will stay miles away from this - 23.5%

     I am very much in doubt.. - 18.8%

     I dont have enough information to have an opinion - 16.0%
    Based on 213 votes.
     

     

    41.8% say take my money NOW! while 32.8% are unsure!!!!    

     

    While ONLY 23.5% say they wont buy this game,  YET THEY ARE THE LOUDEST ON THE FORUMS!!! 

     

    If a vote like that is this HIGH for GAME on MMORPG,  You can BET THE BANK that its going to be the NEXT HUGE game.

     

    32% that are probably usure are because of the very very VOCAL MINORITY (23.5%) who don't like this game.

     

     That is hardly anything to brag about.  Most MMO fans can hardly stop themselves from buying games on reflex.  For being one of the most popular IP's out there for gamers  it should be getting a ton more love than 40% ... that is only good approval rating if you are in the Senate.

  • MargulisMargulis Member CommonPosts: 1,614

    Why is this poll overly skewed in the negative direction?  What a terrible poll.  There's like no happy middle ground, it's either you're happy, you're not, or you're really doubtful.  Stupid poll

  • MargulisMargulis Member CommonPosts: 1,614
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    seems the PvP crowd is still very much in doubt.

     

    The only pvp crowd that is very much in doubt are the ones who haven't played it and played the pvp yet.  Trust me.

     

  • DalanonDalanon Member UncommonPosts: 126
    I'm excited to play, but a little worried it will be too pvp heavy.  I figure worst case i'll really enjoy when I do play, but there might not be enough content to keep me playing more than a few months a year.  We'll see I guess.

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  • fistormfistorm Member UncommonPosts: 868
    Originally posted by funyahns
    Originally posted by fistorm

     

     

     

     
     

     

     That is hardly anything to brag about.  Most MMO fans can hardly stop themselves from buying games on reflex.  For being one of the most popular IP's out there for gamers  it should be getting a ton more love than 40% ... that is only good approval rating if you are in the Senate.

    You have to keep in mind friend, WE are STILL 3 MO. AWAY.  THEY HAVE NOT released their BIG HYPE BOMB DROP yet that usually CONVINCES all the DOUBTFUL to Buy it, These Numbers ARE WITHOUT THE PREHYPE LAUNCH YET!!!!

     

    That's what is so AMAZING about these NUMBERS!!!!   LOOK AT THAT EVEN 100 votes later ITS STABLE NUMBERS!

     

     

  • BelgaraathBelgaraath Member UncommonPosts: 3,205
    Originally posted by fistorm
    Originally posted by funyahns
    Originally posted by fistorm

     

     

     

     
     

     

     That is hardly anything to brag about.  Most MMO fans can hardly stop themselves from buying games on reflex.  For being one of the most popular IP's out there for gamers  it should be getting a ton more love than 40% ... that is only good approval rating if you are in the Senate.

    You have to keep in mind friend, WE are STILL 3 MO. AWAY.  THEY HAVE NOT released their BIG HYPE BOMB DROP yet that usually CONVINCES all the DOUBTFUL to Buy it, These Numbers ARE WITHOUT THE PREHYPE LAUNCH YET!!!!

     

    That's what is so AMAZING about these NUMBERS!!!!   LOOK AT THAT EVEN 100 votes later ITS STABLE NUMBERS!

     

     

    less than 3 months :-)

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    I'll wait for the game to "fail" in the subscription department so that I can pick it up for free. I don't see any reason for me to invest money into a game based off of many other subscription MMOs switching to a F2P model shortly after their releases. There's really not much about the game that has proven to be better than anything else that has released on the market. If anything it's even more limited than many other games.

    The gamer as investor...it was bound to happen especially considering the deliberate blurring of line between consumers and investors in KS promotions.

     

    Here's my simple rule for figuring out which is which: Are you going into it expecting to make a profit? If yes,you're an investor. If no, you're a consumer.

     

    I'm a consumer... no desire to wait for the right time to buy. As soon as the doors are open I'm in.

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  • Rikus25Rikus25 Member Posts: 82

    I am not going to say this game is bad or that its a failure because I just don't believe that however I will be honest and say this isn't my type of game. I most likely will not buy this one and pass on it. It is not a bad game and it should make Elder Scrolls fans happy. Too many other games I am interested in that are coming out this year to put this one above the others. I think it just is coming out at the wrong time for someone like me.

     

    No I am not a sandbox fan. I like some sandbox elements but I very much enjoy theme park style :)

  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser Member Posts: 1,873
    Originally posted by Margulis
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    seems the PvP crowd is still very much in doubt.

     

    The only pvp crowd that is very much in doubt are the ones who haven't played it and played the pvp yet.  Trust me.

     

    No not gonna trust you.

    I am also in doubt right now. I think i will stick to eQ2 and see how things go till end of this year.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    Originally posted by Dalanon
    I'm excited to play, but a little worried it will be too pvp heavy.  I figure worst case i'll really enjoy when I do play, but there might not be enough content to keep me playing more than a few months a year.  We'll see I guess.

    It's only pvp heavy if you go to Cyrodiil.

    Theoretically the adventure zones will be the "end game" for those wanting a pve end game.

    I wouldn't be concerned about it being pvp heavy.

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  • JorlJorl Member UncommonPosts: 257
    Not getting my hopes up, but I will take a look after release sometime.
  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258
    Originally posted by Iselin

     Here's my simple rule for figuring out which is which: Are you going into it expecting to make a profit? If yes,you're an investor. If no, you're a consumer.

     I'm a consumer... no desire to wait for the right time to buy. As soon as the doors are open I'm in.

     Not that I disagree but the question then must be, if you are a consumer, don't you have to actually be buying a product? You are not buying anything, then you are renting access which you are. Then the next question becomes, which is the bigger of the two, renting as a consumer or funding the continual project that is the game. If its funding the project......then you are in fact an investor. Then we can further disassemble what an MMO actually is, and that is a product in continual development and then you cant really be a consumer, be the item is never actually finished.

    Yes, so now that it has been shown that such an argument is pointless lets just get back to what he said. Its an investment, which it is. Both in time and money. If it isn't worth the investment of either, which it is not to him and others, then his point stands.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by JJ82
    Originally posted by Iselin

     Here's my simple rule for figuring out which is which: Are you going into it expecting to make a profit? If yes,you're an investor. If no, you're a consumer.

     I'm a consumer... no desire to wait for the right time to buy. As soon as the doors are open I'm in.

     Not that I disagree but the question then must be, if you are a consumer, don't you have to actually be buying a product? You are not buying anything, then you are renting access which you are. Then the next question becomes, which is the bigger of the two, renting as a consumer or funding the continual project that is the game. If its funding the project......then you are in fact an investor. Then we can further disassemble what an MMO actually is, and that is a product in continual development and then you cant really be a consumer, be the item is never actually finished.

    Yes, so now that it has been shown that such an argument is pointless lets just get back to what he said. Its an investment, which it is. Both in time and money. If it isn't worth the investment of either, which it is not to him and others, then his point stands.

    You don't think renting is consuming? And he didn't say it wasn't worth it, he's saying he'll wait for a "sale." You are the one saying it's not worth it. Matter of fact you've been coming to a forum about a game you don't like several times a day to say that... at least the people that like some or all of it have a reason for being here.

     

    And yes time can be thought of as an investment. But I do have to wonder about how little some people here seem to value it when they spend large amounts of it being in and discussing places they don't like. Like someone here said a few days ago, it's like hitting yourself in the nuts over and over again. Different strokes I guess.

     

     

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  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912
    Guys, there are certainly reasons to be skeptical, and once the NDA drops we can talk about them. But can we just STOP the absurd doomsaying and already calling fail?

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    I'll wait for the game to "fail" in the subscription department so that I can pick it up for free. I don't see any reason for me to invest money into a game based off of many other subscription MMOs switching to a F2P model shortly after their releases. There's really not much about the game that has proven to be better than anything else that has released on the market. If anything it's even more limited than many other games.

    The gamer as investor...it was bound to happen especially considering the deliberate blurring of line between consumers and investors in KS promotions.

     

    Here's my simple rule for figuring out which is which: Are you going into it expecting to make a profit? If yes,you're an investor. If no, you're a consumer.

     

    I'm a consumer... no desire to wait for the right time to buy. As soon as the doors are open I'm in.

       Yep, I do indeed feel like I'm investor. What should I invest my time in? Is the gameplay better than previous titles I've played? How much time/fun will I get out of this title vs. others I could be playing? There are many questions I ask myself before I buy a title. What's better about this game all other AAA MMO's? 

      I'll stick with all of these other free titles that have failed to prove themselves worthy of my money, thanks.

     You know all of these companies claiming the next great AAA title with enhanced graphics, combat, weapons, skills, PvP, and crafting. But do you know what game I'm playing? Do you want to know who's getting my subscription money and has been for the past 3 months?

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    Being analytical about the thought process you engage in before deciding to consume still doesn't make you an investor... nor does "investing time" make any sense despite it's common usage, you're always consuming time... unless you're somehow going to get that time back plus then some image

     

    IDK, maybe it helps to differentiate it when you actually do invest in stocks and enterprises for profit... it's pretty clear to me which I'm doing when I do it.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by JJ82
    Originally posted by Iselin

     Here's my simple rule for figuring out which is which: Are you going into it expecting to make a profit? If yes,you're an investor. If no, you're a consumer.

     I'm a consumer... no desire to wait for the right time to buy. As soon as the doors are open I'm in.

     Not that I disagree but the question then must be, if you are a consumer, don't you have to actually be buying a product? You are not buying anything, then you are renting access which you are. Then the next question becomes, which is the bigger of the two, renting as a consumer or funding the continual project that is the game. If its funding the project......then you are in fact an investor. Then we can further disassemble what an MMO actually is, and that is a product in continual development and then you cant really be a consumer, be the item is never actually finished.

    Yes, so now that it has been shown that such an argument is pointless lets just get back to what he said. Its an investment, which it is. Both in time and money. If it isn't worth the investment of either, which it is not to him and others, then his point stands.

    You don't think renting is consuming? And he didn't say it wasn't worth it, he's saying he'll wait for a "sale." You are the one saying it's not worth it. Matter of fact you've been coming to a forum about a game you don't like several times a day to say that... at least the people that like some or all of it have a reason for being here.

     

    And yes time can be thought of as an investment. But I do have to wonder about how little some people here seem to value it when they spend large amounts of it being in and discussing places they don't like. Like someone here said a few days ago, it's like hitting yourself in the nuts over and over again. Different strokes I guess.

     

     

     Where did you read I'm waiting for a sale? I don't want to pay for a subscription to a game that will possibly fail based off of the trend that has been following MMO's in the past few years.

    IDK... maybe it was here: "'ll wait for the game to "fail" in the subscription department so that I can pick it up for free." Unless of course you're one of those who likes to pretend that F2P really means free... are you?

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