I definitely will be playing it because its the only theme park MMO available that encourages exploration in any real manner and its in a fantasy world I love. I wish it was more dynamic and I wish they would bring the subscription level to a Netflix price level (which I think would go a long way), but I'm looking forward to it because in my eyes there isn't anything out there better. It just fits my patient play style and I wasn't looking for an MMO that feels like an arcade or FPS game requiring action at every corner. It definitely has a lot of room for improvement, but it offers more features that are in line with what I require.
On the other side of the fence, will it keep me a very long time. I doubt it because I'm going to be distracted from future games like Witcher 3, Destiny, Occulus Rift (cant wait lol), but from an MMO perspective when I need my MMO fix, this is the game for me whether it has 100,000 subscribers or 2 million.
After playing beta, and being a longtime Elder Scrolls and MMO fan, will definitely be buying and playing, as will my girlfriend, for as long as its subscription ofc, f2p is the bane of all enjoyment for me.
I only reached L6 or 7 but what i didnt like in the run:
Game perfomance was lacking. With i5 2500k + GTX670 OCed i was at many point at 40-45fps while the machine was running at 50%sh load, both CPU and GPU.
World felt empty. True , there was some players around - nothing bottlenecked as you would expect from a stress test beta, but they wild life was rather sporadic. Also the world after the first - impressive - look, felt empty and dull.
Combat. Thats my biggest gripe. I didnt like the combat. It felt clunky and not fluent. It just didnt do it for me like it did with GW2 (best combat system imo) or WoW.
On the fence on this one, it has some glaring issues that will hopefully be addressed, but as of yet I have not had a reason to explore and although i tend to do this anyway I have yet to find anything to reward that experience.
I'm not sure if I will. Paying for the box then $15 a month, it's simply not value for money - at least for me. I can't really say way because of the NDA, but Angry Joe said that it makes you want to play skyrim and ESO is just Skyrim minus what made skyrim fun... Unless I start hearing great things about the PvP, I wont bother.
"explorer pack" pre-order bonus killed it for me. it's a glaringly obvious cash grab. they are making a pre-order exclusive to get as many purchases as possible up front so players don't feel "left out" if they don't pre order and are then unable to play any race/faction combination. BUT that's not it, Zenimax won't just cut it off to pre-orders. 100% guarantee you that it will be a purchasable unlock on their cash shop after the game launches. all this says to me is WHAT WAS THE POINT OF FACTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE?
I would definitely be all in if this game was Buy to Play with a cosmetic cash shop.
Reason?
Lets put it this way, TESO doesn't offer much in terms of PvE for it to be worthy of a sub, AvAvA is the only thing this game has got going for it.
Wildstar and TESO are the two P2P MMOs on the horizon, going based off what both of these games have to offer, and what we know of them to this date. Wildstar seems to have more value for a subscription model based game than TESO does.
I can't recall a game in recent memory that has gotten so much hate and predictions of failure. I myself have been wondering what game people have been playing, since it's probably the first MMO I actually like the PvE of (I've mainly only played MMO's for PvP and shooting the shit with buddies). I hear all this crap about combat sucking and what not, but so far its alright. The only games combat that was remotely fun (PvE) was City of Hero's due to knocking shit around. But pretty much all MMO's fall into this predictable wade up to a enemy that can see you from a mile away and yet don't get concerned or attack you first. Moments later they let you engage it on your terms and do so with little regard of threat. ESO is slightly better and yes the collision things is kinda of a sore spot for brief moments (but not that bad, and has improved continously..... it is beta after all).
The thing that I think makes it for me though, is no game has had a environment that has drawn me in and actually enjoy its game world (Best looking MMO I've played to date and I've played all major ones in the last 10 years). It's a little lonely at times, but I kinda like this type of adventuring loneliness because I feel connected to the world and genuinely want to explore it and I don't feel hand held like pretty much every MMO out there.
AvA is ....nda, but like I said I'm a pvp guy and its generally all I care about, but it's good enough for me to be buying into this game.
So who else was impressed enough with Beta (or Weekend Beta's) to purchase?
How quickly people forget their history. Star Wars The Old Republic was by far the most hated MMO before release than any other that I have seen since the release of EQ back in 1999.
I wouldn't play it if it was F2P. I'm sick to death of twitchy combat in my MMORPGs. I'll wait for Archeage and stick with EQ and FFXIV.
I don't plan on buying it right now. I still have issues with the feel of the combat. It's feel floaty and detached. I don't think it's a bad game, I just don't think it's worth $60 plus a sub. They really should go with b2p and paid expansions or something. The sub fee is going to kill this game after the first month.
I can't recall a game in recent memory that has gotten so much hate and predictions of failure. I myself have been wondering what game people have been playing, since it's probably the first MMO I actually like the PvE of (I've mainly only played MMO's for PvP and shooting the shit with buddies). I hear all this crap about combat sucking and what not, but so far its alright. The only games combat that was remotely fun (PvE) was City of Hero's due to knocking shit around. But pretty much all MMO's fall into this predictable wade up to a enemy that can see you from a mile away and yet don't get concerned or attack you first. Moments later they let you engage it on your terms and do so with little regard of threat. ESO is slightly better and yes the collision things is kinda of a sore spot for brief moments (but not that bad, and has improved continously..... it is beta after all).
1. SWTOR received as much if not more hate near the end of its beta.
2. How good the combat is comes down to the individuals personal experience with previous games. To me its really bad because I have played games like AoC, Tera, Vindictus, hell even GW2 has far better combat and I only could stand playing that game for a few months.
3. The above is why I gave an audible chuckle when reading your statement that all MMOs fall into the predictable wade up to an enemy comment, because its just plain wrong, you have limited yourself to MMOs with bland combat.
4. Talk to me about the lack of collision being not that bad after having PvPed...........its jaw droppingly stupid to not have it in a game built around end game PvP.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Serious? A true MMORPG Champion tries all games no matter what the cost is! Of course I will be getting it after I have tried the beta. It is a new fuzzy feeling.
The question is, are you a true MMORPG Champion?
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Serious? A true MMORPG Champion tries all games no matter what the cost is! Of course I will be getting it after I have tried the beta. It is a new fuzzy feeling.
I pre-ordered, planning to complete main storyline or until the quests convince me to stop playing. I will try PvP in Cyrodiil, but that will get old fast so I will leave Cyrodiil for the final stand. I don't see myself playing more than 3 months. I will be playing Legendary Skyrim by then.
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I definitely will be playing it because its the only theme park MMO available that encourages exploration in any real manner and its in a fantasy world I love. I wish it was more dynamic and I wish they would bring the subscription level to a Netflix price level (which I think would go a long way), but I'm looking forward to it because in my eyes there isn't anything out there better. It just fits my patient play style and I wasn't looking for an MMO that feels like an arcade or FPS game requiring action at every corner. It definitely has a lot of room for improvement, but it offers more features that are in line with what I require.
On the other side of the fence, will it keep me a very long time. I doubt it because I'm going to be distracted from future games like Witcher 3, Destiny, Occulus Rift (cant wait lol), but from an MMO perspective when I need my MMO fix, this is the game for me whether it has 100,000 subscribers or 2 million.
There Is Always Hope!
pre-ordered the cheapest version (45 bucks)
will give it a month or two before committing to the game (all depends on the PvP/RVR)
Not I..
I only reached L6 or 7 but what i didnt like in the run:
Game perfomance was lacking. With i5 2500k + GTX670 OCed i was at many point at 40-45fps while the machine was running at 50%sh load, both CPU and GPU.
World felt empty. True , there was some players around - nothing bottlenecked as you would expect from a stress test beta, but they wild life was rather sporadic. Also the world after the first - impressive - look, felt empty and dull.
Combat. Thats my biggest gripe. I didnt like the combat. It felt clunky and not fluent. It just didnt do it for me like it did with GW2 (best combat system imo) or WoW.
http://www.youtube.com/user/chopgr?feature=mhee
"The Heavens burned, the stars
cried out
And under the ashes of infinity,
Hope, scarred and bleeding,
breathed its last."
No plans for ever buying this game.
I'm not sure if I will. Paying for the box then $15 a month, it's simply not value for money - at least for me. I can't really say way because of the NDA, but Angry Joe said that it makes you want to play skyrim and ESO is just Skyrim minus what made skyrim fun... Unless I start hearing great things about the PvP, I wont bother.
I would definitely be all in if this game was Buy to Play with a cosmetic cash shop.
Reason?
Lets put it this way, TESO doesn't offer much in terms of PvE for it to be worthy of a sub, AvAvA is the only thing this game has got going for it.
Wildstar and TESO are the two P2P MMOs on the horizon, going based off what both of these games have to offer, and what we know of them to this date. Wildstar seems to have more value for a subscription model based game than TESO does.
Yes indeed! Yes to ESO and a big fat no to the Wow clone Wildstar.
Love the monthly fee also, will keep the kiddies, haters and cheapskates out.
How quickly people forget their history. Star Wars The Old Republic was by far the most hated MMO before release than any other that I have seen since the release of EQ back in 1999.
I wouldn't play it if it was F2P. I'm sick to death of twitchy combat in my MMORPGs. I'll wait for Archeage and stick with EQ and FFXIV.
I pre-ordered the CE edition, will pay monthly.
I played during most beta events.
The game has got me hooked, most of the hate is either unfair (comparing to Skyrim) or flat out retarded (it needs to be free to play? lol?...)
buying, subbing and hoping for a lifetime option
Fine, we'll compromise. I'll get my way & you'll find a way to be okay with that.
1. SWTOR received as much if not more hate near the end of its beta.
2. How good the combat is comes down to the individuals personal experience with previous games. To me its really bad because I have played games like AoC, Tera, Vindictus, hell even GW2 has far better combat and I only could stand playing that game for a few months.
3. The above is why I gave an audible chuckle when reading your statement that all MMOs fall into the predictable wade up to an enemy comment, because its just plain wrong, you have limited yourself to MMOs with bland combat.
4. Talk to me about the lack of collision being not that bad after having PvPed...........its jaw droppingly stupid to not have it in a game built around end game PvP.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Serious? A true MMORPG Champion tries all games no matter what the cost is! Of course I will be getting it after I have tried the beta. It is a new fuzzy feeling.
The question is, are you a true MMORPG Champion?
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
this is not fking MMO this is just single player RPG with zone chat...waiting till it will be F2P then maybe im gonna try it again just for story
I'm a mere peasant.
You do know there is PvP? Will be awfully hard killing myself but I'm sure it may be possible!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I pre-ordered, planning to complete main storyline or until the quests convince me to stop playing. I will try PvP in Cyrodiil, but that will get old fast so I will leave Cyrodiil for the final stand. I don't see myself playing more than 3 months. I will be playing Legendary Skyrim by then.