No offence but you can't resub to something to which you've never subscribed to before. No one at the moment is subscribed to the game. You subscribe for the first time once your free 30 days are over.
I don't know at the moment how I will feel after my remaining 22 days are over. But if I had to decide right now, I would subscribe.
Ooh yeah and your poll is HORRIBLE. I mean super ultra mega horrible. Was it so hard to make a poll with two options? Yes, I will sub. No - I will not. Why are there so many options. Really unprofessional and bordering to useless. You have also phrased the options terribly.
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Cancelled within a day of the 30 days of play that came with buying it. And I'm seeking a refund, although I'm getting an unbelievable run-around from their customer service. [sarcasm] Wonderful customer service! [/sarcasm] Very, very polite... but otherwise totally useless with canned responses.
"We'd love to help you! Just send us all this personal information -- to include credit card data -- in an open, unsecured email..."
Like hell I will...
Since the last patch, the game is unplayable. I keep trying, but it crashes after at most fifteen minutes or so of play. HARD crashes resulting in their little white dialog asking what I was doing at the time... well, let me see: I was chatting with my son in-game when it crashed (happened multiple times); I was moving (happened multiple times); I was killing a mob, just your everyday mob (happened multiple times); I was fighting a boss mob (happened once); I opened the man (happened multiple times); I opened my inventory (happened mutiple times)...
...in other words, not doing anything other than the mundane. I have even had the game crash just after loading my character.
This wasn't happening during Beta.
This wasn't happening during the 5-day early start.
I had eight crashes total during that timeframe through close to 100 hours played.
Since the patch I've had fifteen crashes in less than an hour played.
I don't know what they did, but my son's framerate has dropped by around 20fps since the patch, too.
Fine, my PC isn't compatible with their game for some reason. I can live with it. But, since the problems only started with the last patch, I don't want some young college kid trying to snow me with the usual crap about ports and routers and firewalls, etc. It's not like I haven't been a computer geek for almost 50 years.
No offence but you can't resub to something to which you've never subscribed to before. No one at the moment is subscribed to the game. You subscribe for the first time once your free 30 days are over.
I don't know at the moment how I will feel after my remaining 22 days are over. But if I had to decide right now, I would subscribe.
You can actually sub or resub... someone buys the game and then buys a timecard for example.
No offence but you can't resub to something to which you've never subscribed to before. No one at the moment is subscribed to the game. You subscribe for the first time once your free 30 days are over.
I don't know at the moment how I will feel after my remaining 22 days are over. But if I had to decide right now, I would subscribe.
You can actually sub or resub... someone buys the game and then buys a timecard for example.
The only people who would prepay now are the ones using timecards. But what we have now is not a sub. So the correct question is will you sub after your 30 days are over. But then looking at his horrendous poll, I don't think we can expect much.
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Originally posted by Kuinn Why is there 2 different options for people who sub? To make it look like there's less subbers because they are divided or wut?
Actually it would mean more subs, not fewer.
One answer is future (will resub), the other is present (already have resubbed). They're both positive in that regard. As is the "1 more month" option.
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Kuinn
Why is there 2 different options for people who sub? To make it look like there's less subbers because they are divided or wut?
Edit; actually there's 3 options for subbers if you count the "will give it 1 more month" which is a sub too.
To provide a more objective view? I mean you have satisfied, meh and disgruntled subbers in those choices and you can add those 3 options up like you can add up the rest... btw 44% sounds badish so far.
I think it would be more clear if there was simply a choise of yes or no and then those misc f2p etc choises, I dont see what difference there is if someone subbed yesterday or will do so as soon as he can be arsed, or if they feel like they are subbing only +1 month, a sub is a sub.
Sure it's his poll and not a big deal, just seems a bit weird way to set it up imo.
Originally posted by Scorchien Regret buying it.... Terrible representation of an Elder Scrolls game wrapped in a complete mess of a half-baked MMO..
I disagree, I think it's a good representation of Elder Scrolls game-play and a solid MMORPG.
I disagree to your disagreement. How long have you played MMORPG? I have tried ESO, I and/or some people did not get the vibe of its being MMO, or at least there's something lacking to make the game as a "solid MMORPG".
I've just cancelled my subscription as I'm fed up to death with the gold spamming and yeah I understand they do it in all game but lets be honest they could of and should of prevented this after all the years companies have had in fighting this. I had 34 emails from gold spammers today and I'm fed up to death of filling in an email support ticket for each gold spammer i report.
Ended up emailing more than playing and enough is enough...! I hope there is not a limit on the ignore button but there are other issues such as about to harvest a resource and then you hear the sound of someone else harvesting the ore you are stood in front of and it says someone else is harvesting that resource from another instance wtf!!!
To many people in the same area doing the same thing as me and they end up killing all the mobs and while i know we still get loot or kills too there is little or no threat when that happens and detracts from my enjoyment. My other major bug bear is the bag and bank slot size it's a real joke, I've found myself creating mules to store vital bits of stuff and feel this is a floored system and many others like GW2 have managed to make it a usable system and ESO could of and should of built on this management system.
The constant spamming of WTS x, y, z in zone chat is also a joke they seriously need an auction system in this game, I understand there is the guild sale option but this is seriously inadequate in this game and until many of these issues are dealt with then i will not resubscribe sadly as it's not a bad game just expected it to have come on a lot better than it has after playing on the PTS and giving them so many feedback and comments on the games flaws and fault imo. They appeared to have either ignored or failed to improve the basic stuff and this could and may bit them hard after the initial 30 days end as it has for me.
Maybe in 3 months once the game settles down it could be worth another look.
I've just cancelled my subscription as I'm fed up to death with the gold spamming and yeah I understand they do it in all game but lets be honest they could of and should of prevented this after all the years companies have had in fighting this. I had 34 emails from gold spammers today and I'm fed up to death of filling in an email support ticket for each gold spammer i report.
Yeah, it's really odd how developers aren't more on top of this from the start. You can not plead ignorance about this anymore. RMT is as real in MMOs as bugs and server downtime. You'd think they'd have better tools in place to deal with them.
Even FFXIV:ARR was not developed with tools in place, and SE already had years of experience dealing with them in XI, so they know what to expect; you can't even call it a newbie mistake in their case.
Maybe they figure "oh well, we'll deal with it when it gets bad enough and in the meantime we're getting all those additional box purchases..."
Ended up emailing more than playing and enough is enough...! I hope there is not a limit on the ignore button but there are other issues such as about to harvest a resource and then you hear the sound of someone else harvesting the ore you are stood in front of and it says someone else is harvesting that resource from another instance wtf!!!
Wait, seriously? If someone's harveesting in another instance, you can't harvest that same node in yours? What the... That can't be intended. Is that a phasing thing?
I'm in for the long haul. And i don't regret any minute so far. Best Quest's i have ever played. (perhaps beside from "TSW") But so loving how it is done and also, first time, how the instancing is done, which includes the change of the World, which gives such a good feeling being Part of the World.
Originally posted by Gravehill I don't understand people that openly admit they're waiting for it to "go f2p" and act like it's some sort of victory over the game. It literally just makes you look like you want to play it but you're too broke to afford it. Get a job.
If by "victory" you mean not being "had" by another gaming publisher, then yes. When STO and TSW charged hundreds for life time subscriptions and then turned around and wen F2P within the 1st year, it left a bad taste in player's mouths. While TESO isn't charging for a LTS, it does seem to have one of the more expensive boxed fees of any MMORPG I've seen. This has NOTHING to do with "getting a job"
If you don't even think it's worth $60, why would you play it for free? Is your time seriously worth nothing to you?
Originally posted by Scorchien Regret buying it.... Terrible representation of an Elder Scrolls game wrapped in a complete mess of a half-baked MMO..
I disagree, I think it's a good representation of Elder Scrolls game-play and a solid MMORPG.
I disagree to your disagreement. How long have you played MMORPG? I have tried ESO, I and/or some people did not get the vibe of its being MMO, or at least there's something lacking to make the game as a "solid MMORPG".
Subjective. The game offers all of the required shared content that is expected in an MMORPG. Whether you like phasing / instancing and soloability is another topic of discussion, but it fully fits the description of an MMO and it fulfills the criteria of an Elder Scrolls game.
I can understand some reasons for disliking the game, but it is both a solid MMO for those who like its style and it is a solid elder scrolls game with all of the exploration, mechanics and lore expected in the series. Diversity within the genre is a good thing, I certainly wouldn't like every MMO to be like Eve or Neverwinter Online. By that same token, I certainly don't want every upcoming MMO to play the same way. We all deserve to have at least one MMO that caters to our specific tastes.
I am going to sub until I reach to 50. I don't play it much, probably not more that 10 hour a week so it's going to take me a while. I don't see myself playing beyond that though. I hate PvP. I play for the story.
I haven't bought it yet. (Likely wont for a long time)
After watching yet again a rough ass launch not only do I find my approach of not preordering is paying off. I deal with anxiety on a daily basis. One trick I have is to avoid that which makes me anxious. Down time during primetime, launch bugs, charge issues (have seen plenty with other games, not jus a ZOS issue), blah blah makes me anxious so I avoid.
I am hooked every time I hear about crafting though. The part about crafted gear being the best in the game I like. A lot. Not that I am a crafter, but I think this system is best.
The price point is also a turn off for me, TBH any price point for a game, that is over $40 makes me cringe. Not because I cant afford it, or think it should be free, I just think $40 is too much for a game. This attitude is a hold over from the over-priced-used-games-console racket. Booooooooo to that crap.
I haven't actively played a MMO for well over a year. What I see out there doesn't intrigue me much at all.
Who knows, I am not that butt hurt about it, I have other stuff I like to do, like paint tabletop wargaming minis. I do at times miss gaming, and I would love to put my upgraded vid card through its paces, but not throwing $60 at it to see if it is fun. Or if it is a SPRPG with MMO elements added, like TOR. Or, if their CS gets worse like TSW. Or. Or. Or.
If you don't even think it's worth $60, why would you play it for free? Is your time seriously worth nothing to you?
Huh? Youre supposed to lay games in your 'free' time. So what kind of point is that?
The game isnt worth 60 bucks, it surely isnt worth the 80 bucks you need o spend to get everything the game has to offer (fror now).
It is clearly going to go free to play they cant honestly expect anyone to look att his game and think they will be willing to pay for it.Even IF the PvP was perfect and worked flawlessly they couldnt. But the PvP is just as broken and bugged as the rest f the game right now. So since PvP is the only real reason for peope to continue to sub t this game for a long term time frame then I really cant see how they can expect to charge for it for very long.
Now a better question might have been. if its broken and garbage now why play it for free. I could see that argument. because it really is that bad right now. But if its free its still worth checking out, and probably trying to get a toon to max level and try the stuff people claim make this game so great.
Problem with that is once its free to play (at least short term) there will be a lot more people playing it and more than likely the perfomance will be even worse than it is now.
In the end people were warned, people saw it with their own two eyes. The game was borderline as a buy to play game with the issues it has/had. As a pay to play it wasnt even close. Now that it has been released and the full aspect of everything that is wrong with this game and company is being highlighted over and over again it is actually not a ridiculous question to ask if it is even worth playing long term if its free.
U know, with every new AAA mmorg you get bugs and issues at the start, but they get fixed over time - even Conan recovered over time. Since I'm getting pleasure from my £50 investment im happy (no you don't need to buy the special edition)
I could play the doom prophet and say all mmorgs go free to play eventually, it's obvious. If you think a game is rubbish and doesn't appeal then making it free to play is not going to make the game any better.
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Originally posted by Scorchien Regret buying it.... Terrible representation of an Elder Scrolls game wrapped in a complete mess of a half-baked MMO..
I disagree, I think it's a good representation of Elder Scrolls game-play and a solid MMORPG.
To be fair aren't Elder scrolls and fall out games tend to be buggy mess upon release and they get polished over time with patches, because that's what I remember with skyrim.
Even though these are none scientific its always fun looking at the results.
More than half (as of now) that answered didnt buy the game at all. One owuld assume even though thtye didnt use that specific answer. because I think people who answered 'its not worth a sub' or 'will wait for it to go F2P' intimate in their answer they didnt buy it.
But its close. So if half of the people answering did buy it and 40% or so (as of now) claim theyre resubbing or already have resubbed, thats a very very high number. so it shows that ZoS definitely got their target audience fooled err convinced.
350 answers not a lot considering the amount of people playing the game but will be interesting to see if the numbers change the more people respond.
Rush, if you genuinely enjoy questing and exploring a large open world at you leisure you will enjoy it, if you desire a fast levelling experience that takes you to mature end game then eso is less likely to appeal.
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Originally posted by rodarin Originally posted by Gravehill
If you don't even think it's worth $60, why would you play it for free? Is your time seriously worth nothing to you?Huh? Youre supposed to lay games in your 'free' time. So what kind of point is that?
The game isnt worth 60 bucks, it surely isnt worth the 80 bucks you need o spend to get everything the game has to offer (fror now).
It is clearly going to go free to play they cant honestly expect anyone to look att his game and think they will be willing to pay for it.Even IF the PvP was perfect and worked flawlessly they couldnt.
nobody is going to be willing to pay for ESO? are you just trolling or are you that detached from reality?
to many, the game is worth it obviously because people have and will pay for it.
also, if it went free to play it wouldn't be totally free to pay, it would be heavily restricted. why would someone that doesn't like the game wait for it to go F2P just to play a restricted free version of a game they already don't like?
i get it, you don't like the game. but not everyone agrees with you, that may come as a bit of a shock to you.
Probably sub for another to see how much it changes over that time. There are alot of bugs, Ii'm not a fan of phasing as it makes it as though you are playing with less people. The gfx even at 2560 Ultra are pretty drab and unexciting BUT... I m willing to give them a month to iron outt he wrinkles.
Does feel like a singe player game though.
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If you don't even think it's worth $60, why would you play it for free? Is your time seriously worth nothing to you?
Huh? Youre supposed to lay games in your 'free' time. So what kind of point is that?
The game isnt worth 60 bucks, it surely isnt worth the 80 bucks you need o spend to get everything the game has to offer (fror now).
It is clearly going to go free to play they cant honestly expect anyone to look att his game and think they will be willing to pay for it.Even IF the PvP was perfect and worked flawlessly they couldnt. But the PvP is just as broken and bugged as the rest f the game right now. So since PvP is the only real reason for peope to continue to sub t this game for a long term time frame then I really cant see how they can expect to charge for it for very long.
Now a better question might have been. if its broken and garbage now why play it for free. I could see that argument. because it really is that bad right now. But if its free its still worth checking out, and probably trying to get a toon to max level and try the stuff people claim make this game so great.
Problem with that is once its free to play (at least short term) there will be a lot more people playing it and more than likely the perfomance will be even worse than it is now.
In the end people were warned, people saw it with their own two eyes. The game was borderline as a buy to play game with the issues it has/had. As a pay to play it wasnt even close. Now that it has been released and the full aspect of everything that is wrong with this game and company is being highlighted over and over again it is actually not a ridiculous question to ask if it is even worth playing long term if its free.
So not only are you going to waste your free time playing a game that you think is trash, you're going to hang around this forum for a year and read about it and post about it and wait for it to go f2p? How can something be worth getting a toon to max level if it's free but garbage just because it costs $60? This literally makes no sense to me. It's either good or it isn't.
Originally posted by Bladestrom U know, with every new AAA mmorg you get bugs and issues at the start, but they get fixed over time - even Conan recovered over time. Since I'm getting pleasure from my £50 investment im happy (no you don't need to buy the special edition)
I could play the doom prophet and say all mmorgs go free to play eventually, it's obvious. If you think a game is rubbish and doesn't appeal then making it free to play is not going to make the game any better.
You contradict yourself there. Conan wasnt super buggy but it had issues, it just didnt have a ton of content. But by the time they fixed that everyone had moved on, and I think more people bought AoC than bought ESO so they had more numbers to work with. Plus it was before a lot of people became jaded with games and there werent a hundred free to play games out there to go back to.
so either AOC was a great game that had problems and got better, or it was another mediocre game that was over hyped, ad problems lost players got better but players never went back, even after it went free to play.
One thing that has become obvious to everyone these days (wasnt always so obvious) is that LAUNCH is the time game have their most players. The old idea used to be you launched then gained players as word of mouth spread. Not anymore and people realize that now. Thats why companies do what ZoS has done. Quick cash grab, milk a few months of subs, go F2P.
Unfortunately rodarint this community is not representative of the eso player base, and also what's worse the analysis of the results is at best subjective and at worst 'err' decisive.
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No offence but you can't resub to something to which you've never subscribed to before. No one at the moment is subscribed to the game. You subscribe for the first time once your free 30 days are over.
I don't know at the moment how I will feel after my remaining 22 days are over. But if I had to decide right now, I would subscribe.
Ooh yeah and your poll is HORRIBLE. I mean super ultra mega horrible. Was it so hard to make a poll with two options? Yes, I will sub. No - I will not. Why are there so many options. Really unprofessional and bordering to useless. You have also phrased the options terribly.
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Cancelled within a day of the 30 days of play that came with buying it. And I'm seeking a refund, although I'm getting an unbelievable run-around from their customer service. [sarcasm] Wonderful customer service! [/sarcasm] Very, very polite... but otherwise totally useless with canned responses.
"We'd love to help you! Just send us all this personal information -- to include credit card data -- in an open, unsecured email..."
Like hell I will...
Since the last patch, the game is unplayable. I keep trying, but it crashes after at most fifteen minutes or so of play. HARD crashes resulting in their little white dialog asking what I was doing at the time... well, let me see: I was chatting with my son in-game when it crashed (happened multiple times); I was moving (happened multiple times); I was killing a mob, just your everyday mob (happened multiple times); I was fighting a boss mob (happened once); I opened the man (happened multiple times); I opened my inventory (happened mutiple times)...
...in other words, not doing anything other than the mundane. I have even had the game crash just after loading my character.
This wasn't happening during Beta.
This wasn't happening during the 5-day early start.
I had eight crashes total during that timeframe through close to 100 hours played.
Since the patch I've had fifteen crashes in less than an hour played.
I don't know what they did, but my son's framerate has dropped by around 20fps since the patch, too.
Fine, my PC isn't compatible with their game for some reason. I can live with it. But, since the problems only started with the last patch, I don't want some young college kid trying to snow me with the usual crap about ports and routers and firewalls, etc. It's not like I haven't been a computer geek for almost 50 years.
You can actually sub or resub... someone buys the game and then buys a timecard for example.
The only people who would prepay now are the ones using timecards. But what we have now is not a sub. So the correct question is will you sub after your 30 days are over. But then looking at his horrendous poll, I don't think we can expect much.
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I think it would be more clear if there was simply a choise of yes or no and then those misc f2p etc choises, I dont see what difference there is if someone subbed yesterday or will do so as soon as he can be arsed, or if they feel like they are subbing only +1 month, a sub is a sub.
Sure it's his poll and not a big deal, just seems a bit weird way to set it up imo.
I disagree to your disagreement. How long have you played MMORPG? I have tried ESO, I and/or some people did not get the vibe of its being MMO, or at least there's something lacking to make the game as a "solid MMORPG".
I've just cancelled my subscription as I'm fed up to death with the gold spamming and yeah I understand they do it in all game but lets be honest they could of and should of prevented this after all the years companies have had in fighting this. I had 34 emails from gold spammers today and I'm fed up to death of filling in an email support ticket for each gold spammer i report.
Ended up emailing more than playing and enough is enough...! I hope there is not a limit on the ignore button but there are other issues such as about to harvest a resource and then you hear the sound of someone else harvesting the ore you are stood in front of and it says someone else is harvesting that resource from another instance wtf!!!
To many people in the same area doing the same thing as me and they end up killing all the mobs and while i know we still get loot or kills too there is little or no threat when that happens and detracts from my enjoyment. My other major bug bear is the bag and bank slot size it's a real joke, I've found myself creating mules to store vital bits of stuff and feel this is a floored system and many others like GW2 have managed to make it a usable system and ESO could of and should of built on this management system.
The constant spamming of WTS x, y, z in zone chat is also a joke they seriously need an auction system in this game, I understand there is the guild sale option but this is seriously inadequate in this game and until many of these issues are dealt with then i will not resubscribe sadly as it's not a bad game just expected it to have come on a lot better than it has after playing on the PTS and giving them so many feedback and comments on the games flaws and fault imo. They appeared to have either ignored or failed to improve the basic stuff and this could and may bit them hard after the initial 30 days end as it has for me.
Maybe in 3 months once the game settles down it could be worth another look.
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I'm in for the long haul. And i don't regret any minute so far. Best Quest's i have ever played. (perhaps beside from "TSW") But so loving how it is done and also, first time, how the instancing is done, which includes the change of the World, which gives such a good feeling being Part of the World.
So....yeah. Journey has not ended yet.
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If you don't even think it's worth $60, why would you play it for free? Is your time seriously worth nothing to you?
Subjective. The game offers all of the required shared content that is expected in an MMORPG. Whether you like phasing / instancing and soloability is another topic of discussion, but it fully fits the description of an MMO and it fulfills the criteria of an Elder Scrolls game.
I can understand some reasons for disliking the game, but it is both a solid MMO for those who like its style and it is a solid elder scrolls game with all of the exploration, mechanics and lore expected in the series. Diversity within the genre is a good thing, I certainly wouldn't like every MMO to be like Eve or Neverwinter Online. By that same token, I certainly don't want every upcoming MMO to play the same way. We all deserve to have at least one MMO that caters to our specific tastes.
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I haven't bought it yet. (Likely wont for a long time)
After watching yet again a rough ass launch not only do I find my approach of not preordering is paying off. I deal with anxiety on a daily basis. One trick I have is to avoid that which makes me anxious. Down time during primetime, launch bugs, charge issues (have seen plenty with other games, not jus a ZOS issue), blah blah makes me anxious so I avoid.
I am hooked every time I hear about crafting though. The part about crafted gear being the best in the game I like. A lot. Not that I am a crafter, but I think this system is best.
The price point is also a turn off for me, TBH any price point for a game, that is over $40 makes me cringe. Not because I cant afford it, or think it should be free, I just think $40 is too much for a game. This attitude is a hold over from the over-priced-used-games-console racket. Booooooooo to that crap.
I haven't actively played a MMO for well over a year. What I see out there doesn't intrigue me much at all.
Who knows, I am not that butt hurt about it, I have other stuff I like to do, like paint tabletop wargaming minis. I do at times miss gaming, and I would love to put my upgraded vid card through its paces, but not throwing $60 at it to see if it is fun. Or if it is a SPRPG with MMO elements added, like TOR. Or, if their CS gets worse like TSW. Or. Or. Or.
Have a blast, hope it is awesome for you all.
Huh? Youre supposed to lay games in your 'free' time. So what kind of point is that?
The game isnt worth 60 bucks, it surely isnt worth the 80 bucks you need o spend to get everything the game has to offer (fror now).
It is clearly going to go free to play they cant honestly expect anyone to look att his game and think they will be willing to pay for it.Even IF the PvP was perfect and worked flawlessly they couldnt. But the PvP is just as broken and bugged as the rest f the game right now. So since PvP is the only real reason for peope to continue to sub t this game for a long term time frame then I really cant see how they can expect to charge for it for very long.
Now a better question might have been. if its broken and garbage now why play it for free. I could see that argument. because it really is that bad right now. But if its free its still worth checking out, and probably trying to get a toon to max level and try the stuff people claim make this game so great.
Problem with that is once its free to play (at least short term) there will be a lot more people playing it and more than likely the perfomance will be even worse than it is now.
In the end people were warned, people saw it with their own two eyes. The game was borderline as a buy to play game with the issues it has/had. As a pay to play it wasnt even close. Now that it has been released and the full aspect of everything that is wrong with this game and company is being highlighted over and over again it is actually not a ridiculous question to ask if it is even worth playing long term if its free.
Quite alot of mixed feelings , never had this much trouble deciding to buy the game or not.
Ps sorry some of you dont like my poll lol, but then if I didnt give enough options you would try troll me for that too, so face bothered lmao
I could play the doom prophet and say all mmorgs go free to play eventually, it's obvious. If you think a game is rubbish and doesn't appeal then making it free to play is not going to make the game any better.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
To be fair aren't Elder scrolls and fall out games tend to be buggy mess upon release and they get polished over time with patches, because that's what I remember with skyrim.
Even though these are none scientific its always fun looking at the results.
More than half (as of now) that answered didnt buy the game at all. One owuld assume even though thtye didnt use that specific answer. because I think people who answered 'its not worth a sub' or 'will wait for it to go F2P' intimate in their answer they didnt buy it.
But its close. So if half of the people answering did buy it and 40% or so (as of now) claim theyre resubbing or already have resubbed, thats a very very high number. so it shows that ZoS definitely got their target audience fooled err convinced.
350 answers not a lot considering the amount of people playing the game but will be interesting to see if the numbers change the more people respond.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Huh? Youre supposed to lay games in your 'free' time. So what kind of point is that?
The game isnt worth 60 bucks, it surely isnt worth the 80 bucks you need o spend to get everything the game has to offer (fror now).
It is clearly going to go free to play they cant honestly expect anyone to look att his game and think they will be willing to pay for it.Even IF the PvP was perfect and worked flawlessly they couldnt.
nobody is going to be willing to pay for ESO? are you just trolling or are you that detached from reality?
to many, the game is worth it obviously because people have and will pay for it.
also, if it went free to play it wouldn't be totally free to pay, it would be heavily restricted. why would someone that doesn't like the game wait for it to go F2P just to play a restricted free version of a game they already don't like?
i get it, you don't like the game. but not everyone agrees with you, that may come as a bit of a shock to you.
Probably sub for another to see how much it changes over that time. There are alot of bugs, Ii'm not a fan of phasing as it makes it as though you are playing with less people. The gfx even at 2560 Ultra are pretty drab and unexciting BUT... I m willing to give them a month to iron outt he wrinkles.
Does feel like a singe player game though.
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So not only are you going to waste your free time playing a game that you think is trash, you're going to hang around this forum for a year and read about it and post about it and wait for it to go f2p? How can something be worth getting a toon to max level if it's free but garbage just because it costs $60? This literally makes no sense to me. It's either good or it isn't.
You contradict yourself there. Conan wasnt super buggy but it had issues, it just didnt have a ton of content. But by the time they fixed that everyone had moved on, and I think more people bought AoC than bought ESO so they had more numbers to work with. Plus it was before a lot of people became jaded with games and there werent a hundred free to play games out there to go back to.
so either AOC was a great game that had problems and got better, or it was another mediocre game that was over hyped, ad problems lost players got better but players never went back, even after it went free to play.
One thing that has become obvious to everyone these days (wasnt always so obvious) is that LAUNCH is the time game have their most players. The old idea used to be you launched then gained players as word of mouth spread. Not anymore and people realize that now. Thats why companies do what ZoS has done. Quick cash grab, milk a few months of subs, go F2P.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D