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TESO: It's not me, it's you
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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
You called someone an Ahole and a terrible person for wanting a refund.
Over a refund!
Wtf man.
I guess this is one way to play the game F2P despite what the intended payment model is. ESO isn't a broken game. It has bugs here and there but there are plenty of people who have gotten to VR10 by questing so it is possible. Should the bugs exist? No they shouldn't but are they enough to warrant a refund after playing for 100 hours? Hell no. I play lots of single player games for 20-50 hours before setting them on the shelf for one reason or another and if I tired to get a refund for any of them I would be laughed at. The CSR reps should have looked at your hours played and laughed at you to because it's ridiculous to ask for a refund after playing that many hours and that far into the game.
But this isn't about that is it? This is about finding a excuse any excuse to get out of your obligation to pay for something you used. I'm sure even if the bugs hadn't existed something else would have served up equally as well.
Making a game and then managing it are two separate things and doesn't always end up successful. Look at Snail and Age of Wushu. One can like a game that is made by someone but also be put off on how it's managed afterwards.
"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
I can respect a person not liking a game.
I can respect a person posting on a forum why he didn't like a game.
I can respect a person saying I am an idiot for liking a game he doesn't like.
I have no respect for someone who plays a game for a length of time, gets to the end game, realized he doesn't like said game and asks for a refund. That my friend is character... or rather lack thereof. The sad thing is most people don't understand what I just said...
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
^^THIS^^
But hey as long as those guys enjoy it, it's ok that the rest of us don't and we continue to play it right?
I mean we should be happy that the games bugs only affect us not them, and so we can pretend to enjoy the game vicariously through those players who exploited and are bug free.
DAMMIT !!! i am going to go resub right now, i have been so shortsighted.
Please Zenimax i did not realize when you intended grouping it would be us enjoying others success at exploiting to avoid the game stopping bugs. Now i get it and i am all over this new grouping paradigm !
Lolipops !
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
I say congratulations on your refund. I might not agree with it but then again I am not you and you are not me. You have a completely different view of the game and you felt entitled to be able to get a refund. Since ZoS accepted your reasons and granted a refund, there is nothing more to say other than, congratulations and I hope you find the game you are looking for.
"I don't give a sh*t what other people say. I play what I like and I'll pay to do it too!" - SerialMMOist
Well said.
But people like the OP, and those who agree with him, will likely think "character" means "pushover." Which in reality, is likely closer to the truth at this point.
The biggest problem here is that the ONLY way to show that you're not happy with the product and for it to be taken seriously is to get a refund on that product. Companies don't take you seriously until you affect their pocket book. Unfortunately, with software, there's no way to just 'not buy the product' if you don't like the way it works..because you can't figure out how it works without buying it first.
This is like saying people have no character for buying a television then returning it because the sound stopped working or one of the input ports doesn't work. You have to wonder why people make this exception with software. If it doesn't work as advertised, you should god damn well be able to return it.
You resorted to calling someone an Ahole and a terrible person for wanting a refund.
You have no business talking about anyone's "character", when you demonstrate very little of your own.
Being that kind of disrespectful doesn't make you a good or better person.
Terms of Use say something else. Good luck.
By the way, just my personal opinion. Consuming a game and then asking for a refund is mean-minded and unsocial and gives the impression of you being a games locust.
Thats the way with new MMOs, new tech means new code, new tech + new code = unknown problems. Because tech keeps moving forward this will never change. Maybe new MMOs are not your thing, wait 3-6 months before you try anything. I personally passed on ESO after trying beta just to wait and see if they fix things.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Clearly you are wrong in your thinking, because the people who made this game agree with him, that he deserved a refund.
So if the entity that made a product was confronted by a disgruntled customer, and said customer wanted a refund, said entity asks why, customer gives reason, and said entity either agrees with the customer or does not. If they agree then a refund is given, if not, well thats obvious. He got a refund... ergo.. Zenimax agreed with his reasoning as to why he deserved a refund.
Also, why do you care if he got his money back or not? Does it hurt you in anyway ? Clearly the one portion of this equation (Zenimax) was not hurt by it enough to refuse the refund.
Lolipops !
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Yeah, you want to talk about mean-minded: Terms of Use in general...you agree to keep a product before even using it. No other product that isn't software gets away with this disgusting abuse of law. I must be a 'tablet locust' for buying a tablet then returning it because it stopped working after using it for a month? I'm so evil for returning that television after the picture went out..I mean I used the thing for a few months..how dare I?
Consuming a game is a pretty ridiculous notion especially in this case..since he specifically stated he couldn't even get passed VR5 which is not even half the game.
I actually didn't refer to him directly as an asshole, just how the world was full of them, and I also followed that up with other stuff. Oh and I called him a terrible person AFTER he got the refund.
Reap what you sew and all that.
But this thread seems pretty split down the middle on this issue. So whatevs.
A bit defensive aren't we?
Those guilty of exploiting their way to max level are usually the ones who get the most defensive about their ingame integrity in my experience. Enjoy the VR ranks and fat stacks you made exploiting your way to the top though, you and your guild definitely earned them
A refund Zeni online agreed to. It's not your place to pass judgement.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.