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You forgot to mention that you waited 3 hours to get seated.
They asked for your credit card before you even sat down and charged it with the price of a full meal.
Your date never showed up because she was in different branch of the restaurant 2 blocks away.
The menu only had 3 choices.
You ordered the Fish but you had to wait 2 hours because the bus of Chinese tourists had to be served first and when it arrived you got chicken because the fish was out.
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The chicken was o.k. though.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
The restaurant example is absolutely ridiculous stop using it. When was the last time you sat a restaurant and before you ate they brought you out a 20 page legal document and made you sign accepting the fact you read it.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Im going to assume it was more inline with you filed before the dead line and they are not going to put the labor and effort into fighting with those that follow the probably channels. My point is this refund crap is a joke unless you are unable to log in and or move you should know what your getting into when buying an MMO. I would think those that do pay for them, ask for a refund then come on a forum like MMORPG and continue to promote a refund never had any intention of playing the game in the first place. Just my opinion though.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Well I guess that answers the question about "Time Spent" being a factor in their decision. Tibbs, what was your /played? You were VR5 right? and your progression was stopped due to a bugged quest? Amongst other things?
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Ok now you are showing your true colors. How is Zenimax the exception? They have given refunds, you yourself received a refund so how exactly are they the one exception?
Also do a little research for example head over to the Nether forums, people paid for the game downloaded it through the games site and could not log in because they didn't use steam. Nether has a policy of ZERO refunds. These people never got to play a game they paid for. Now I would call them the exception not Zenimax but as you have clearly shown you have an agenda here.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
How do you know if they are still broken if you don't play anymore?
Works fine for me and I am playing on a 2009 laptop with integrated intel graphics. So.......Stop trying to play on a commodore with dialup, get on my level? The level of a really poor dude? Level 45, have yet to run into any issues. Installed smoothly, ran smoothly, not a single bug yet.
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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
I feel for you. I tried to buy their game online twice. Each time it rejected payment because the address didn't match the card, which is funny because I got the card living at this address and it's the address I gave them. I tried twice thinking, well I must have miss typed something. The next day I found they charged me twice for both attempted purchases. When I contacted them they were apologetic and said no no...we rejected those transactions. Call your card company. So I did. I now have to wait ten days to see if I am going to get my $120 back. As you can imagine I am just thrilled with their customer service.
edit: for the record they never gave me a game code either so to be clear...$120 lost and nothing to show for it.
Do you understand what scam is...?
You really like to talk about things you have no clue of.
No I never said that, like for Nether now that is a joke and a scam. If you played ESO to max level and then to VR4 that is no scam. How many hours did you put into it? Now somehow after 50? 100? 200? hours of playing a VIDEO GAME you did not get your monies worth? No buddy that is the only joke here.
Like I said more and more companies will be adding another page to their TOS stating no refunds because people like you rush the end game and demand a refund.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Nice hyperbole.
You make me like charity
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Didn't you pay $150.00 for the Archeage kinda-not-really-Alpha founder pack? A game that is to be F2P at launch. Sounds like you don't just let them ...you actually paint a bulls-eye on your arse and PAY them to rape you. Hey..I'm bare arsed and in line right with you. I just bought it myself b/c even if it sucks they never told me it's guaranteed to satisfy my every expectation and be completely bug free to boot. Because they're not stupid. No developer has or can ever promise that and no one who's ever played MMO's and understands just how different they are from the typical SPG would ever expect perfection and hassle free launch dates. Hope ..yes...expect..no. That's why it's such a big deal when an MMO has a relatively smooth launch . Some games I'll wait for and some games I just want to jump into asap. Archeage looks like a decent world to explore and that's a big selling point for me.
However..I also enjoy ESO and realize that if ESO had launched in Korea first and had over a year and a few other markets worth of feedback..then it would've been in a better state at launch. Or during Alpha even.
As it stands now, I'm one of the lucky ones who have not encountered any serious game-breakers/bugs. I've heard and read of nothing but Zenimax fixing shite and trying to improve the game experience overall. This is also something I have seen in just about every TRULY new launched title since early 2000's when I started playing MMO's. It has never stopped either. I still play some of those MMOs as well and they are still always fixing and updating stuff. Nature of the beast when it comes to multi-player games.
Hell...I never even asked for a refund with Infestation (formerly The WarZ) and I practically need reconstructive surgery for the arse-raping I got from them...
As I have said elsewhere Paypals dispute system does not cover virtual goods such as online games . You may get a refund through the resolution center if Zenimax agrees to it but if they don't and you take it further than that paypal will never find in your favor .
They also wont refund physical copies unless they are damaged or have not turned up . The reason for this is although the packing is not virtual the game itself is considered to be virtual goods .
So lets be quite clear about this anyone who has said they have got a refund via paypal without Zenimax agreeing to it if it is a virtual download or whatever company they have brought a physical copy from because they state the game isn't good enough is lying .
The OP is telling the truth but hes one of the few .
So how do people get to lvl 50 and VR if the game doesn't work at all?
Do you imply they lie? Because one of you must be lying.
Funny thing this is not what the law says. The following is from the DoJ and other consumer protection websites:
Defective Goods
Many consumers assume that they have the legal right to return merchandise to a seller for a full refund shortly after buying it. Generally speaking, that assumption is not true. However, some important exceptions to this rule do exist. Furthermore, consumers often have important warranty rights and may "reject" or "revoke acceptance" of defective merchandise under some circumstances. You may also want to refer to the section on Warranties for additional information.
The Law
Under the law, your right to return merchandise is usually created by a statute, contract, or store policy. If no statute, contract, or store policy creates that right, then a buyer cannot typically return the merchandise to the seller for a full refund.
Remedies do exist for consumers who need to return merchandise that is defective in some way. The Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) has a somewhat complicated set of rules that govern "acceptance," "rejection," and "revocation of acceptance" of goods. (For more information about the UCC, refer to Warranties) These rights often include a right to a reimbursement of any payments made, resulting in a remedy that looks like a "refund" to the consumer. Note, however, that slight changes in facts may completely change an outcome under the UCC.
Rejection of a Good
A rejection of a good happens when a buyer purchases a good (or merchandise) and finds out that it fails to conform to the sales contract, including all express or implied warranties. You should note that according to the UCC, rejection occurs before the buyer actually "accepts" the good.
Accepting a Good Then Revoking the Acceptance
Ordinarily, a consumer goes to the store, inspects a representative sample of a good, selects that sample or a packaged item of the same kind, pays for the good, takes it out of the store and uses it. Under the UCC, the buyer's "acceptance" would usually be found to have occurred when the buyer walked out of the store with the good.
But what happens when a buyer "accepts" the merchandise and later discovers that it fails to meet the sales contract and warranty requirements? The buyer may be able to revoke acceptance of the merchandise, and, in effect, secure a "refund." Under the UCC, a buyer may revoke acceptance of merchandise that fails to satisfy sales contract requirements if:
In either case, the consumer's revocation of acceptance must satisfy at least these preconditions:
Whenever words like "substantially impair," "reasonable time," and "reasonably assumed" appear in a statute, you may find yourself arguing with a seller over their meaning. As you might expect, courts have often made the final decision as to whether the facts of a case justify finding that something was "reasonable" or "substantial." Fortunately for consumers, many New Hampshire retailers have reasonable return policies when goods are found to be defective. Indeed, retailers will often allow returns even if the product is not defective.
Several state and federal laws give consumers, under specific circumstances, an unequivocal right to cancel a contract within a certain period of time.
In your specific case, what many of us have a problem with is that you clearly used the product for an extended period of time and then requested a refund. While the law may be a bit fussy about the definition of "reasonable time", there is less ambiguity about what is morally correct and what a person of character should do in a situation such as this. Alas, character and morals can not be legislated or codified into law...
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