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Massive 100 man bots over running eso.

ArcheAge2014ArcheAge2014 Member UncommonPosts: 135

http://kotaku.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-players-are-pissed-about-bots-1576904269

 

massive 100 man bots over running together eso. Video evidence inside and is included.

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  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    LOL.  That video @Kotaku is pretty sad.  It's like a city of bots.  When there are more bots than players, you know something just isn't right.

    "If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by rodingo
    LOL.  That video @Kotaku is pretty sad.  It's like a city of bots.  When there are more bots than players, you know something just isn't right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i4qA3_zv7g

    WoW says ESO is fine. 

     

    Bots suck but yeah...

  • macwoodmacwood Member UncommonPosts: 134
    Eh... who pays subs for all these bots? :/
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by macwood
    Eh... who pays subs for all these bots? :/

    The same companies that do in WoW, GW2, Wushu, and all the rest...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJhWLhpDfqw

    GW2 bot train anyone?

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by rodingo
    LOL.  That video @Kotaku is pretty sad.  It's like a city of bots.  When there are more bots than players, you know something just isn't right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i4qA3_zv7g

    WoW says ESO is fine. 

     

    Bots suck but yeah...

    Why do you keep posting this in threads about bots? Not only is it 4 years old, but it has nothing to do with bots.

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by BeansnBread
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by rodingo
    LOL.  That video @Kotaku is pretty sad.  It's like a city of bots.  When there are more bots than players, you know something just isn't right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i4qA3_zv7g

    WoW says ESO is fine. 

     

    Bots suck but yeah...

    Why do you keep posting this in threads about bots? Not only is it 4 years old, but it has nothing to do with bots.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJhWLhpDfqw

    Better?

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by BeansnBread
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by rodingo
    LOL.  That video @Kotaku is pretty sad.  It's like a city of bots.  When there are more bots than players, you know something just isn't right.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i4qA3_zv7g

    WoW says ESO is fine. 

     

    Bots suck but yeah...

    Why do you keep posting this in threads about bots? Not only is it 4 years old, but it has nothing to do with bots.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJhWLhpDfqw

    Better?

    Yes, of course it's better. There are actually bots in that clip. However, it's still from 2 years ago and doesn't really do anything to address the extreme bot problem in ESO. I mean, does the fact that GW2 had bot issues at release make anyone feel better that there are a shitload of bots in ESO?

  • Moar61Moar61 Member UncommonPosts: 260
    I've literally seen one bot in the last 2 weeks of playing and it was in the starter zone
  • genoshangenoshan Member UncommonPosts: 51

    My account is more than 3 years old... So I hope my opinion counts.

     

    Bots were part of the reason I did not continue my subscription. I got tired of reporting the same bots over and over, yet when they did a ban wave, I was banned, received an apology, yet the same bots were in the same dungeons.

    Yes there have been some waves that cleared the bots out, but they were replaced by others ... I hated doing the small 'dungeons' hoping to get 1 hit in before the 20 or so bots killed it...

  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094

    Bots are rampant everywhere and goldsellers flock to high-budget MMOs as soon as they are released.  I would not expect an amateur MMO developer to be able to nip these things in the bud with any expedience (amateur in that it's their first MMO -- and most oft it shows).  WoW still has BoTs in normal BGs, even though world bots are greatly diminished if not completely eradicated -- whether it be from design decisions, Blizzard intervention or it just seeming as such due to cross realms or something.

    FFXIV had a serious problem with this in the first month until they permanently banned the gold sellers / buyers and severely cut down on bots (which they were always tough against, even in FFXI).  Now I don't even get so much as a whisper from a gold seller while in game, much less see it in public chat.

    As a whole I wouldn't be too harsh on them for this.  Though I suppose it does mean something if there are more bots in game than players within a given area.  Whether that means something in that area needs to be hotfixed since it's being exploited, or perhaps an indication of how the game is.  Granted though, someone has to be paying for those accounts and see something in the game that makes the cost worth it.  Then again, that would make it go back to there being one die hard fan or cash cow that has more of a presence than actual players -- which is an potential indication of there being something fundamentally wrong again.  Though that's all speculation and forgets that MMOs are big worlds, and the area in question may just be one that was moved away from by the community as a whole (then again, with it's mega-servers I have a hard time believing an area would be empty often if there were enough people playing the game -- especially since it pretty much just recently released).

    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
  • IncomparableIncomparable Member UncommonPosts: 1,138

    Too many gold sinks, and costly items in a f2p game... sounds like ripe opportunity for gold farmers. The devs are morons for creating their economy in such a way to treat their p2p customers as f2p with cash shop items and too many gold sinks.

    The only way to make due with their bad economy is not try crafting which in a game as limited in content and variety in eso is giving up a lot to over come the unnecessary gold sinks and armor costs and expensive mounts.

    “Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble”

  • grapevinegrapevine Member UncommonPosts: 1,927

    Not seen a single bot for weeks, since they patched a fix.  Old news, published weeks after it was a problem.  

  • ZebladeZeblade Member UncommonPosts: 931

    Well ESO is not an AA mmo..never was.  This is 2014 and ESO new full well BOTS GOLD SELLERS would jump on this. We warned them in beta early 2013.. nothing.  You new something was not right when 4 weeks in they still couldnt stop www/w/ww w*w*w an on lol yet a 3rd party could get allot of it. ]

    I dont know whats worse bots or the people that keep paying to play as ESO does nothing to fix this. I always say.. its YOUR money you have the RIGHT to expect something.. and in this case NOT a unfinished bot gold selling mmo.

  • ZebladeZeblade Member UncommonPosts: 931
    Originally posted by grapevine

    Not seen a single bot for weeks, since they patched a fix.  Old news, published weeks after it was a problem.  

    lol I guess the 16 + posts on ESO Cust Service are seeing things.. haha nice try..

  • grapevinegrapevine Member UncommonPosts: 1,927
    Originally posted by Zeblade
    Originally posted by grapevine

    Not seen a single bot for weeks, since they patched a fix.  Old news, published weeks after it was a problem.  

    lol I guess the 16 + posts on ESO Cust Service are seeing things.. haha nice try..

    I did not say there wasn't any, but that I've seen none (recently).   Every MMO has a degree of bots.  It was bad in ESO, but they did patch a fix and it's no longer a major problem.  Before that patch it was very obviously a problem.

     

    If you are going to comment, at least be playing and make statements from first hand observations.

  • ZebladeZeblade Member UncommonPosts: 931
    Originally posted by grapevine
    Originally posted by Zeblade
    Originally posted by grapevine

    Not seen a single bot for weeks, since they patched a fix.  Old news, published weeks after it was a problem.  

    lol I guess the 16 + posts on ESO Cust Service are seeing things.. haha nice try..

    I did not say there wasn't any, but that I've seen none.   Every MMO has a degree of bots.  It was bad in ESO, but they did patch a fix and it's no longer a major problem.  Before that patch is was very obviously a problem.

     

    If you are going to comment, at least be playing and make statements from first hand observations.

    "at least be playing" ? ooooh only people NOT playing the game say there are bots. Got to do better then that.  Been reporting bots since launch... go read on ESO forums.. like this one posted today at  6am "After Today's Maintenance - Infestation of Bots Pouring In"
     
    If you dont see them awesome..good for you. lol.. its text relax.. later.. no more..
  • grapevinegrapevine Member UncommonPosts: 1,927

    I do read the forums and play.

     

    There's the odd post still, but if you bothered to read them you'd see others saying they aren't seeing bots (at all, or much less) and disagreeing.

     

    There is also the known bug, that harvesting nodes appear to disappear and are being reported/interpreted as bots (by some).  Apparently they are under the map, invisible, etc.  What is happening is due to a phasing issue (ie. someone in another phase has harvested).

  • CouganCougan Member UncommonPosts: 422

    I thought I was actually going to see 100 man bot trains in those videos. False advertising!

     

    Cant people say anything without multiplying it by 10? lol

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,484
    Originally posted by macwood
    Eh... who pays subs for all these bots? :/

    Most often payed for with stolen credit card details, otherwise the sub would be a penalty to any money they can make. The fraud is spotted and closed down but it may take a week to a few months to spot it. So the game account remains for that time.

    Bots are being targeted in TESO, they have had to move out of dungeons where they were getting their best pickings. You can be sure Zenimax is now looking to knock out these new bots.

    Not having a auction house has protected TESO from this having any real impact on the games economy.

  • MothanosMothanos Member UncommonPosts: 1,910

    You know what is even more funny ?
    Zenimax reporting that their GM is comming online in 15 minutes to ban bots !!!

    Yes yes they give the botters a 15 min headsup to take their bot trains offline.
    Very kind of Zenimax :)
    Had a few big facepalm moments when i saw them do this announcements -_-

  • AzmodeusAzmodeus Member UncommonPosts: 268

    Hey OP, if your going to come in here, make a new account to push your game and try to bring another one down at least face it that your game has a huge bot problem that has been going strong for 2 years.

     

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/411941/page/1

     

    /hypocrite

      OMG I am Ancient!
  • ArakaziArakazi Member UncommonPosts: 911
    Why don't they make gold untradeable?
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Originally posted by Arakazi
    Why don't they make gold untradeable?

    If you completely removed the trading of gold/items between players, that would significantly reduce the amount of goldsellers in the game.

    However, it would most probably also significantly reduce the number of players in the game !

     

    The goldsellers would then have to rely on selling maxed-out characters, which they would bot to level-cap...

  • TimzillaTimzilla Member UncommonPosts: 437
    I haven't seen a bot in few weeks either. Even when they were rampant they had no impact on gameplay. Just something for the haters to talk about.
  • ArakaziArakazi Member UncommonPosts: 911
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko
    Originally posted by Arakazi
    Why don't they make gold untradeable?

    If you completely removed the trading of gold/items between players, that would significantly reduce the amount of goldsellers in the game.

    However, it would most probably also significantly reduce the number of players in the game !

     

    The goldsellers would then have to rely on selling maxed-out characters, which they would bot to level-cap...

    I think the trade of will be worth it. Make gold untradeable, use a supply/demand algorithm for the market and make a trader a proper and fleshed out profession in which you can buy, sell and transport goods across the map and have your own little army of NPC's fleets and caravans. Sounds better than a market place distorted and ruined by bots in which low level items are too expensive for new players.

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