You said you find it hard to understand, why many of the complaints about wildstar revolve around it having very generic and bland quests. I simply explained why some would have a problem with that.
Based on what I saw when on a buddy pass I'd agree with those complaints.
What would I change? Nothing... I'd simply play something else.
Still not seeing where I said anything was hard to understand....misinformation on this site is never hard to understand.
It is strange that people who have actually played this game would think that the questing is more generic than other similar mmos.
Which mmo has less generic questing and why is the questing better?
You said it's strange reading such complaints, which would imply you don't understand why they'd be complaining..... I didn't get far but the presentation seemed to be lacking a focus given in many current titles. I would think that's where said complaint comes from. Only a handful per zone seem to be worth the time to complete ( based on feedback from fans), on top of that carbine themselves have said the good questing doesn't even really begin until 30+.
As for which games do it better? that's a matter of taste and preference. I didn't get far enough into W* to make such comparisons, that would be because I didn't find what was there as any form of draw for me.
I was commenting toward why people may feel such a way (based one what I've read over here, from fans and detractors), not about the quality of W*, there have been plenty of threads on the subject, read some of them if you're that curious about it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by SomaQ My biggest complaint are the amount of people complaining. Seriously, what is killing the MMORPG genre are people who complain. If you pick up any other game that's not an MMORPG do you complain about anything? It's like a plague that spreads: one person starts complaining about something, and everyone else jumps in. There's nothing in the game I can find to complain about. I am thoroughly enjoying it!
People complain about every type of game, you're seeing MMO complaints here because it's mostly an MMO community who visit this site.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
You said you find it hard to understand, why many of the complaints about wildstar revolve around it having very generic and bland quests. I simply explained why some would have a problem with that.
Based on what I saw when on a buddy pass I'd agree with those complaints.
What would I change? Nothing... I'd simply play something else.
Still not seeing where I said anything was hard to understand....misinformation on this site is never hard to understand.
It is strange that people who have actually played this game would think that the questing is more generic than other similar mmos.
Which mmo has less generic questing and why is the questing better?
You said it's strange reading such complaints, which would imply you don't understand why they'd be complaining..... I didn't get far but the presentation seemed to be lacking a focus given in many current titles. I would think that's where said complaint comes from. Only a handful per zone seem to be worth the time to complete ( based on feedback from fans), on top of that carbine themselves have said the good questing doesn't even really begin until 30+.
As for which games do it better? that's a matter of taste and preference. I didn't get far enough into W* to make such comparisons, that would be because I didn't find what was there as any form of draw for me.
I was commenting toward why people may feel such a way (based one what I've read over here, from fans and detractors), not about the quality of W*, there have been plenty of threads on the subject, read some of them if you're that curious about it.
There may be a misunderstanding. Maybe that's my fault. When I'm replying to you the questions and comments are meant for you. It wouldn't make much sense if I replied to you hoping for the vague opinions of others.
This is a complaint thread. There was a common, vague complaint mentioned. I commented on the complain. You replied. I tried to discuss the complaint and even gave my opinion on it. I gave examples contrary to the complaint. I wanted YOU, an mmorpg player with 15000 posts on a site called mmorpg.com who has played the game being discussed, to give YOUR opinions.
If you "didn't get far" and certainly "didn't get far enough into W* to make such comparisons" then why reply? Why do you think I should read other threads if I want the opinions from the people posting in this thread about this topic?
You said you find it hard to understand, why many of the complaints about wildstar revolve around it having very generic and bland quests. I simply explained why some would have a problem with that.
Based on what I saw when on a buddy pass I'd agree with those complaints.
What would I change? Nothing... I'd simply play something else.
Still not seeing where I said anything was hard to understand....misinformation on this site is never hard to understand.
It is strange that people who have actually played this game would think that the questing is more generic than other similar mmos.
Which mmo has less generic questing and why is the questing better?
You said it's strange reading such complaints, which would imply you don't understand why they'd be complaining..... I didn't get far but the presentation seemed to be lacking a focus given in many current titles. I would think that's where said complaint comes from. Only a handful per zone seem to be worth the time to complete ( based on feedback from fans), on top of that carbine themselves have said the good questing doesn't even really begin until 30+.
As for which games do it better? that's a matter of taste and preference. I didn't get far enough into W* to make such comparisons, that would be because I didn't find what was there as any form of draw for me.
I was commenting toward why people may feel such a way (based one what I've read over here, from fans and detractors), not about the quality of W*, there have been plenty of threads on the subject, read some of them if you're that curious about it.
There may be a misunderstanding. Maybe that's my fault. When I'm replying to you the questions and comments are meant for you. It wouldn't make much sense if I replied to you hoping for the vague opinions of others.
This is a complaint thread. There was a common, vague complaint mentioned. I commented on the complain. You replied. I tried to discuss the complaint and even gave my opinion on it. I gave examples contrary to the complaint. I wanted YOU, an mmorpg player with 15000 posts on a site called mmorpg.com who has played the game being discussed, to give YOUR opinions.
If you "didn't get far" and certainly "didn't get far enough into W* to make such comparisons" then why reply? Why do you think I should read other threads if I want the opinions from the people posting in this thread about this topic?
I do think that's strange.... :P
Maybe we should go back to my first reply? It was just part of the conversation, to sum up what I said I was simply implying people have grown accustomed to a questing focus when it comes to this genre. Some of the more recent MMO's have put a greater focus on this aspect than really ever before, SWTOR, ESO, TSW etc..They've also thrown more resources at it in doing so. I guess people expected the same from WS, I wouldn't find that surprising or strange. Which doesn't imply really anything at all about WS, it's simply an observation based on current genre trends.
WHat I find strange is people acting as though general conversation is strange on a forum.
BTW- I did offer the opinion I could earlier, I'll restate it a bit deeper,- I'd agree with many of those complaints if what I saw continued to be the norm, they did little to draw me in.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Foobarx If bold means yelling... does colored bold mean screaming at the top of their lungs and bashing one's face against the keyboard?
I'd look for a color code system there, yellow-orange would be aggravated, Green-blue calm, red= angry.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have played many MMORPG and this is what's wrong with wildstar
it's yet again the same as 10 years ago... I am happy for you if u are like 18y/o and this is your first MMORPG or maybe second i am sure you will enjoy this
but a lot of people is not that "fresh" and easily amused by (once again) the same exact routine with a new cover. (and ugly cover but this is personal opinion)
people that say "i dont know why i don't like it... it has everything it's suppose to have..." well that's the problem u been there u done it that's why... why would you want to do it again???? and again... and again...
Then public is ready for a "next step" that is not a slightly modified combat to be more action... we need a revolution in WHY to log in we need a world we can conquer... and i am not talking about sandbox, sandbox in the next big lie 99% of the people is too lazy to use that sand to make a castle! Or perhaps the new excuse devs will use to give us beta that we need to actually build ourselves... since they saved money on doing the quests ^_^ but is a sandbox!
we yes do need you to hold our hands because we don't want to "work hard" in a MMO we want to HAVE FUN it's our free time hardcore doesn't mean self-flagellator (or shouldn't mean it nowday it does but it shouldn't!!!!!!).... doing boring stuff for days before i even start to enjoy it's stupid is not a game and is not entrataining.
Originally posted by Foobarx If bold means yelling... does colored bold mean screaming at the top of their lungs and bashing one's face against the keyboard?
I'd look for a color code system there, yellow-orange would be aggravated, Green-blue calm, red= angry.
Or it could be based on the opinion of the person typing as to which colors are easier to read mixed with white text on a gray background.
Was your goal to aggravate me? Is that why every time I try to discuss a complaint with you in this thread about complaints located in "General Discussion" you beat around the bush rather than answering my questions? Well sir that certainly is aggravating. Definitely feeling a little irked at this point. <deep breath....and out> That sounds more like the actions of a common troll than a reliable, 15k post, 5 star member. As someone that has become very familiar with your posts over the years I can honestly say you are no common troll. There there must be some deeper meaning to your wisdom. I WILL FIGURE IT OUT!!!!
Originally posted by SomaQ My biggest complaint are the amount of people complaining. Seriously, what is killing the MMORPG genre are people who complain. If you pick up any other game that's not an MMORPG do you complain about anything? It's like a plague that spreads: one person starts complaining about something, and everyone else jumps in. There's nothing in the game I can find to complain about. I am thoroughly enjoying it!
Welcome to MMORPG.com.
Without the vocal minority coming here to QQ they wouldn't be making money off the advertising and the 8-13 redirects.
Originally posted by SomaQ My biggest complaint are the amount of people complaining. Seriously, what is killing the MMORPG genre are people who complain. If you pick up any other game that's not an MMORPG do you complain about anything? It's like a plague that spreads: one person starts complaining about something, and everyone else jumps in. There's nothing in the game I can find to complain about. I am thoroughly enjoying it!
Well, then my biggest complaint would be complainers that complain about people complaining in threads titled "What are your biggest complaints?"
What are you expecting when you enter a thread with such a title? From my understanding the OP just wanted to know what actual complaints exist regarding Wildstar. Maybe to get a clue if there is something that matters to him as well before paying for this game, maybe just to troll, who knows? But it is a legitimate question and deserves a honest answer. No game can satisfy all potential customers after all. And regarding other games: for me there is no substantial difference between Singleplayers and MMOs regarding taste. If I like them, I will say so, if not, I will say so as well.
I'm happy for you that you enjoy your time in Wildstar. And I really hope there are enough people like you to support this game in the future. But if you believe it or not: your opinion is not the only legitimate one.
And you are not a better man just because you actually like something. Disliking something (and articulating that opinion) isn't a form of disease or personal disorder. All kind of opinions and their articulation (even those you don't agree with) are an essential part of personal rights and as such have their entitlement ....
Originally posted by SomaQ My biggest complaint are the amount of people complaining. Seriously, what is killing the MMORPG genre are people who complain. If you pick up any other game that's not an MMORPG do you complain about anything? It's like a plague that spreads: one person starts complaining about something, and everyone else jumps in. There's nothing in the game I can find to complain about. I am thoroughly enjoying it!
Well, then my biggest complaint would be complainers that complain about people complaining in threads titled "What are your biggest complaints?"
What are you expecting when you enter a thread with such a title? From my understanding the OP just wanted to know what actual complaints exist regarding Wildstar. Maybe to get a clue if there is something that matters to him as well before paying for this game, maybe just to troll, who knows? But it is a legitimate question and deserves a honest answer. No game can satisfy all potential customers after all. And regarding other games: for me there is no substantial difference between Singleplayers and MMOs regarding taste. If I like them, I will say so, if not, I will say so as well.
I'm happy for you that you enjoy your time in Wildstar. And I really hope there are enough people like you to support this game in the future. But if you believe it or not: your opinion is not the only legitimate one.
And you are not a better man just because you actually like something. Disliking something (and articulating that opinion) isn't a form of disease or personal disorder. All kind of opinions and their articulation (even those you don't agree with) are an essential part of personal rights and as such have their entitlement ....
Lol supposing he actually is new to mmorpg.com he has learned his lesson.
You don't ask opinions about new games on a site filled with people that fell in love with their game more than a decade a ago and have hated everything since.
If you want real opinions go to the official forums and behold more complaints than you could ever read from people that actually play the game.
Lol supposing he actually is new to mmorpg.com he has learned his lesson.
You don't ask opinions about new games on a site filled with people that fell in love with their game more than a decade a ago and have hated everything since.
If you want real opinions go to the official forums and behold more complaints than you could ever read from people that actually play the game.
Not aggravated just like Splenda in my coffee.
Well, my experience with the official Wildstar forums may vary from yours, but they certainly are not the one and only place for "most qualified opinions". I personally find that forums even more extreme than mmorpg.com considering that only a very specific group of persons actually use them (generally those who really deeply hate that game and want all the other players to know this and those who think Wildstar is the most genius thing since the invention of sliced bread).
And a conservative bias in opinions like here doesn't have to be a bad thing per se. It actually depends on your own mindset/ expectations and is also an important part of personal rights. I don't think it's completely inconceivable that enough people on mmorpg.com played Wildstar despite a more conservative mindset. So, it remains a legit place to ask for opinions and complaints regarding that game ...
BTW: if the official forums are so much better, why do you even bother to waste your time in these subforums here? It seems a bit contradictory at least. Don't get me wrong: I don't mind your resentment regarding these forums and you can stay here as long as you want (not that you need my permission in the first place ), but it seems a bit weird nontheless
Lol supposing he actually is new to mmorpg.com he has learned his lesson.
You don't ask opinions about new games on a site filled with people that fell in love with their game more than a decade a ago and have hated everything since.
If you want real opinions go to the official forums and behold more complaints than you could ever read from people that actually play the game.
Not aggravated just like Splenda in my coffee.
Well, my experience with the official Wildstar forums may vary from yours, but they certainly are not the one and only place for "most qualified opinions". I personally find that forums even more extreme than mmorpg.com considering that only a very specific group of persons actually use them (generally those who really deeply hate that game and want all the other players to know this and those who think Wildstar is the most genius thing since the invention of sliced bread).
And a conservative bias in opinions like here doesn't have to be a bad thing per se. It actually depends on your own mindset/ expectations and is also an important part of personal rights. I don't think it's completely inconceivable that enough people on mmorpg.com played Wildstar despite a more conservative mindset. So, it remains a legit place to ask for opinions and complaints regarding that game ...
BTW: if the official forums are so much better, why do you even bother to waste your time in these subforums here? It seems a bit contradictory at least. Don't get me wrong: I don't mind your resentment regarding these forums and you can stay here as long as you want (not that you need my permission in the first place ), but it seems a bit weird nontheless
I've followed MMORPG.com for longer than I've posted in the forums. My complaint isn't about the people complaining in this forum. My biggest complaint is the number of people who complain about things in Wildstar and any new MMORPG for that matter. I am a part of the Wildstar forums and the #1 thing I see is complaints about how people feel they are entitled to stuff they want in the game, items, etc. and are having a difficult time obtaining them by earning it. The game came out a month ago and rather than playing for x amount of time to achieve things, people are already complaining like they should be given said things. I'm posting that complaint here because I think it is relevant to the MMORPG community since this is what I perceive is killing any new MMORPG that hits the market. I used the comparison of non-MMORPG games as an example of saying we tend to enjoy them more since we can't really complain for anyone to give us anything or change anything via patch or ticket.
Lol supposing he actually is new to mmorpg.com he has learned his lesson.
You don't ask opinions about new games on a site filled with people that fell in love with their game more than a decade a ago and have hated everything since.
If you want real opinions go to the official forums and behold more complaints than you could ever read from people that actually play the game.
Not aggravated just like Splenda in my coffee.
Well, my experience with the official Wildstar forums may vary from yours, but they certainly are not the one and only place for "most qualified opinions". I personally find that forums even more extreme than mmorpg.com considering that only a very specific group of persons actually use them (generally those who really deeply hate that game and want all the other players to know this and those who think Wildstar is the most genius thing since the invention of sliced bread).
And a conservative bias in opinions like here doesn't have to be a bad thing per se. It actually depends on your own mindset/ expectations and is also an important part of personal rights. I don't think it's completely inconceivable that enough people on mmorpg.com played Wildstar despite a more conservative mindset. So, it remains a legit place to ask for opinions and complaints regarding that game ...
BTW: if the official forums are so much better, why do you even bother to waste your time in these subforums here? It seems a bit contradictory at least. Don't get me wrong: I don't mind your resentment regarding these forums and you can stay here as long as you want (not that you need my permission in the first place ), but it seems a bit weird nontheless
Maybe it's an NC$oft thing? The GW2 forums are exactly like this. People just there to troll and complain, people who think the game is the messiah of gaming, and maybe 2 or 3 actual people with opinions on how the game could be better and post constructively. The rest is all nonsense.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV Have played: You name it If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Lol supposing he actually is new to mmorpg.com he has learned his lesson.
You don't ask opinions about new games on a site filled with people that fell in love with their game more than a decade a ago and have hated everything since.
If you want real opinions go to the official forums and behold more complaints than you could ever read from people that actually play the game.
Not aggravated just like Splenda in my coffee.
Well, my experience with the official Wildstar forums may vary from yours, but they certainly are not the one and only place for "most qualified opinions". I personally find that forums even more extreme than mmorpg.com considering that only a very specific group of persons actually use them (generally those who really deeply hate that game and want all the other players to know this and those who think Wildstar is the most genius thing since the invention of sliced bread).
And a conservative bias in opinions like here doesn't have to be a bad thing per se. It actually depends on your own mindset/ expectations and is also an important part of personal rights. I don't think it's completely inconceivable that enough people on mmorpg.com played Wildstar despite a more conservative mindset. So, it remains a legit place to ask for opinions and complaints regarding that game ...
BTW: if the official forums are so much better, why do you even bother to waste your time in these subforums here? It seems a bit contradictory at least. Don't get me wrong: I don't mind your resentment regarding these forums and you can stay here as long as you want (not that you need my permission in the first place ), but it seems a bit weird nontheless
Maybe it's an NC$oft thing? The GW2 forums are exactly like this. People just there to troll and complain, people who think the game is the messiah of gaming, and maybe 2 or 3 actual people with opinions on how the game could be better and post constructively. The rest is all nonsense.
mmorpg.com is run by NCSoft?!?!?!?! I knew something fishy was going on....
Lol supposing he actually is new to mmorpg.com he has learned his lesson.
You don't ask opinions about new games on a site filled with people that fell in love with their game more than a decade a ago and have hated everything since.
If you want real opinions go to the official forums and behold more complaints than you could ever read from people that actually play the game.
Not aggravated just like Splenda in my coffee.
Well, my experience with the official Wildstar forums may vary from yours, but they certainly are not the one and only place for "most qualified opinions". I personally find that forums even more extreme than mmorpg.com considering that only a very specific group of persons actually use them (generally those who really deeply hate that game and want all the other players to know this and those who think Wildstar is the most genius thing since the invention of sliced bread).
And a conservative bias in opinions like here doesn't have to be a bad thing per se. It actually depends on your own mindset/ expectations and is also an important part of personal rights. I don't think it's completely inconceivable that enough people on mmorpg.com played Wildstar despite a more conservative mindset. So, it remains a legit place to ask for opinions and complaints regarding that game ...
BTW: if the official forums are so much better, why do you even bother to waste your time in these subforums here? It seems a bit contradictory at least. Don't get me wrong: I don't mind your resentment regarding these forums and you can stay here as long as you want (not that you need my permission in the first place ), but it seems a bit weird nontheless
Maybe it's an NC$oft thing? The GW2 forums are exactly like this. People just there to troll and complain, people who think the game is the messiah of gaming, and maybe 2 or 3 actual people with opinions on how the game could be better and post constructively. The rest is all nonsense.
mmorpg.com is run by NCSoft?!?!?!?! I knew something fishy was going on....
It all makes sense now! Haha
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV Have played: You name it If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Man I wanted to like WIldstar, I used to think it would become my new WOW (as far as how much I played it).
First beta came and I LOVED IT.. Then beta stopped and I started to play SWG and I actually fell in love with it too. Then Second beta invite came and I could not stay logged into WIldstar for more then 30 mins at a time...
For me it came down to two things..
1. Classes: they were just not that much fun to play, even at early levels compared to other games like WOW and SWG
2. Telegraphs: Just far TOO MANY damn telegraphs....I just could not deal with it, I felt like I was playing the telegraphs and not the game. My attention for some reason always stayed looking at the bright lights around my feet and not the character or game world.
Wildstar seemed like a pretty well made and polished game. But those two issues where just to much for me to handle.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Hmm as of right now I have yet to have any real complaints about this one. My wife and I have been playing for about two weeks now and we still love it. We are enjoying the humor very much, its a nice breath of fresh air compared to everything else out there that seems so serious. The art style isnt the greatest but its not bad at all its actually a beautifully done world. Combat is not a face roll event either you have to pay attention which keeps us involved. The questing is for the most part the same as you have seen a million times but that doesnt bother me much because there isnt this wall of text when you pick up a quest and most of them take you places that are actually fun to go.
In closing I must say that I am really enjoying myself with this one, which was unexpected I thought I would hate it but quite the opposite. Not sure how long we will stick with it but atm we have no intentions of stopping anytime soon. Hats off to you NCSoft.
Monthly Sub - I knew my game clock was ticking and that put a lot of incentive on playing this game whether I felt like it or not. It's not the money but the fact that I'm renting a time slick and it feels like I'm wasting it if I don't take advantage of that. Thus my other games got pushed to the side. I don't like that setup. I want to game in the world I want when I want.
Based on this statement i would be more inclined to subscribe to mmos if i could freeze my subscription manually when i know i wont be playing, knowing that my remaining paid time will be there waiting for me to manually resume it again on my account.
This needs to become a thing, IMO.
Yeah this is a big turn-off. The pressure it creates, feel the same way as Torvaldr.
Should be like this:
If you buy game time, let's say 30 days only when you log in that day 1 day should be substracted.
Either that or reduce costs to 1/3 or have a feature based model
Like
- hardware and software maintenance costs
- supporting development of new content (and thus getting access to it)
- advanced customer support
- live events (whatever happened to those)
all combined for 15€/month
or each part depending on how much it costs
hard & software should be like 1-2€ / month, wouldn't mind paying that 10k players paying 2€ / month - that's enough to support a big cluster of dedicated servers including maintenance.
development of new content, whatever happened to this? subscription costs back in the day were justified by us receiving new content on a regular basis. if we're paying a subscription why do we have to buy expansion packs?
advanced customer support apart from the basic self-help tools like "I'm stuck" or "I met a bug". actually I wouldn't know what I would use it for.
live events, a relic of the past it seems. DMs creating an in-game live experience by pretending to be an invader or sending players on truffle hunts with rewards or organized races or whatever. With linear tier-based and instanced content those seem to have vanished. For instance when I played Vanguard I would walk around town and see a zombie emoting. I would be curious and approach it. Since I was a shaman I would draw the conclusion that from the way it acted it was somehow diseased or cursed. So I cast cure disease or curse on it and it turned into a beautiful female that gave me some tokens I could use to receive items. That was pretty awesome.
Can't get in since patch fails for about a week now so I guess that means something else to do. But maybe attunement process is a bit long especially when you do it on multiple characters like I have. But I don't want to see anything dumbed down all you need is to be in a guild with people who want to do it.
Lol supposing he actually is new to mmorpg.com he has learned his lesson.
You don't ask opinions about new games on a site filled with people that fell in love with their game more than a decade a ago and have hated everything since.
If you want real opinions go to the official forums and behold more complaints than you could ever read from people that actually play the game.
Not aggravated just like Splenda in my coffee.
Well, my experience with the official Wildstar forums may vary from yours, but they certainly are not the one and only place for "most qualified opinions". I personally find that forums even more extreme than mmorpg.com considering that only a very specific group of persons actually use them (generally those who really deeply hate that game and want all the other players to know this and those who think Wildstar is the most genius thing since the invention of sliced bread).
And a conservative bias in opinions like here doesn't have to be a bad thing per se. It actually depends on your own mindset/ expectations and is also an important part of personal rights. I don't think it's completely inconceivable that enough people on mmorpg.com played Wildstar despite a more conservative mindset. So, it remains a legit place to ask for opinions and complaints regarding that game ...
BTW: if the official forums are so much better, why do you even bother to waste your time in these subforums here? It seems a bit contradictory at least. Don't get me wrong: I don't mind your resentment regarding these forums and you can stay here as long as you want (not that you need my permission in the first place ), but it seems a bit weird nontheless
Maybe it's an NC$oft thing? The GW2 forums are exactly like this. People just there to troll and complain, people who think the game is the messiah of gaming, and maybe 2 or 3 actual people with opinions on how the game could be better and post constructively. The rest is all nonsense.
mmorpg.com is run by NCSoft?!?!?!?! I knew something fishy was going on....
It all makes sense now! Haha
I can quote your quote of his quote........THIS is MMORPG.com in a nutshell.
Just endlessly quote the opinion above you....change the color in some text.....admire your own brilliance.
It's better to lurk in forums and be thought a fool...than to endlessly "Quote" and remove all doubts.
I just want to say that I will not try this game because it looks like a cartoon. Take heed and bow down to my opinion. Thank you for the one or two seconds of your time.
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You said it's strange reading such complaints, which would imply you don't understand why they'd be complaining..... I didn't get far but the presentation seemed to be lacking a focus given in many current titles. I would think that's where said complaint comes from. Only a handful per zone seem to be worth the time to complete ( based on feedback from fans), on top of that carbine themselves have said the good questing doesn't even really begin until 30+.
As for which games do it better? that's a matter of taste and preference. I didn't get far enough into W* to make such comparisons, that would be because I didn't find what was there as any form of draw for me.
I was commenting toward why people may feel such a way (based one what I've read over here, from fans and detractors), not about the quality of W*, there have been plenty of threads on the subject, read some of them if you're that curious about it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
People complain about every type of game, you're seeing MMO complaints here because it's mostly an MMO community who visit this site.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
There may be a misunderstanding. Maybe that's my fault. When I'm replying to you the questions and comments are meant for you. It wouldn't make much sense if I replied to you hoping for the vague opinions of others.
This is a complaint thread. There was a common, vague complaint mentioned. I commented on the complain. You replied. I tried to discuss the complaint and even gave my opinion on it. I gave examples contrary to the complaint. I wanted YOU, an mmorpg player with 15000 posts on a site called mmorpg.com who has played the game being discussed, to give YOUR opinions.
If you "didn't get far" and certainly "didn't get far enough into W* to make such comparisons" then why reply? Why do you think I should read other threads if I want the opinions from the people posting in this thread about this topic?
I do think that's strange.... :P
Maybe we should go back to my first reply? It was just part of the conversation, to sum up what I said I was simply implying people have grown accustomed to a questing focus when it comes to this genre. Some of the more recent MMO's have put a greater focus on this aspect than really ever before, SWTOR, ESO, TSW etc..They've also thrown more resources at it in doing so. I guess people expected the same from WS, I wouldn't find that surprising or strange. Which doesn't imply really anything at all about WS, it's simply an observation based on current genre trends.
WHat I find strange is people acting as though general conversation is strange on a forum.
BTW- I did offer the opinion I could earlier, I'll restate it a bit deeper,- I'd agree with many of those complaints if what I saw continued to be the norm, they did little to draw me in.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I'd look for a color code system there, yellow-orange would be aggravated, Green-blue calm, red= angry.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have played many MMORPG and this is what's wrong with wildstar
it's yet again the same as 10 years ago... I am happy for you if u are like 18y/o and this is your first MMORPG or maybe second i am sure you will enjoy this
but a lot of people is not that "fresh" and easily amused by (once again) the same exact routine with a new cover. (and ugly cover but this is personal opinion)
people that say "i dont know why i don't like it... it has everything it's suppose to have..." well that's the problem u been there u done it that's why... why would you want to do it again???? and again... and again...
Then public is ready for a "next step" that is not a slightly modified combat to be more action... we need a revolution in WHY to log in we need a world we can conquer... and i am not talking about sandbox, sandbox in the next big lie 99% of the people is too lazy to use that sand to make a castle! Or perhaps the new excuse devs will use to give us beta that we need to actually build ourselves... since they saved money on doing the quests ^_^ but is a sandbox!
we yes do need you to hold our hands because we don't want to "work hard" in a MMO we want to HAVE FUN it's our free time hardcore doesn't mean self-flagellator (or shouldn't mean it nowday it does but it shouldn't!!!!!!).... doing boring stuff for days before i even start to enjoy it's stupid is not a game and is not entrataining.
Or it could be based on the opinion of the person typing as to which colors are easier to read mixed with white text on a gray background.
Was your goal to aggravate me? Is that why every time I try to discuss a complaint with you in this thread about complaints located in "General Discussion" you beat around the bush rather than answering my questions? Well sir that certainly is aggravating. Definitely feeling a little irked at this point. <deep breath....and out> That sounds more like the actions of a common troll than a reliable, 15k post, 5 star member. As someone that has become very familiar with your posts over the years I can honestly say you are no common troll. There there must be some deeper meaning to your wisdom. I WILL FIGURE IT OUT!!!!
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Welcome to MMORPG.com.
Without the vocal minority coming here to QQ they wouldn't be making money off the advertising and the 8-13 redirects.
Well, then my biggest complaint would be complainers that complain about people complaining in threads titled "What are your biggest complaints?"
What are you expecting when you enter a thread with such a title? From my understanding the OP just wanted to know what actual complaints exist regarding Wildstar. Maybe to get a clue if there is something that matters to him as well before paying for this game, maybe just to troll, who knows? But it is a legitimate question and deserves a honest answer. No game can satisfy all potential customers after all. And regarding other games: for me there is no substantial difference between Singleplayers and MMOs regarding taste. If I like them, I will say so, if not, I will say so as well.
I'm happy for you that you enjoy your time in Wildstar. And I really hope there are enough people like you to support this game in the future. But if you believe it or not: your opinion is not the only legitimate one.
And you are not a better man just because you actually like something. Disliking something (and articulating that opinion) isn't a form of disease or personal disorder. All kind of opinions and their articulation (even those you don't agree with) are an essential part of personal rights and as such have their entitlement ....
Lol supposing he actually is new to mmorpg.com he has learned his lesson.
You don't ask opinions about new games on a site filled with people that fell in love with their game more than a decade a ago and have hated everything since.
If you want real opinions go to the official forums and behold more complaints than you could ever read from people that actually play the game.
Not aggravated just like Splenda in my coffee.
+1
Well, my experience with the official Wildstar forums may vary from yours, but they certainly are not the one and only place for "most qualified opinions". I personally find that forums even more extreme than mmorpg.com considering that only a very specific group of persons actually use them (generally those who really deeply hate that game and want all the other players to know this and those who think Wildstar is the most genius thing since the invention of sliced bread).
And a conservative bias in opinions like here doesn't have to be a bad thing per se. It actually depends on your own mindset/ expectations and is also an important part of personal rights. I don't think it's completely inconceivable that enough people on mmorpg.com played Wildstar despite a more conservative mindset. So, it remains a legit place to ask for opinions and complaints regarding that game ...
BTW: if the official forums are so much better, why do you even bother to waste your time in these subforums here? It seems a bit contradictory at least. Don't get me wrong: I don't mind your resentment regarding these forums and you can stay here as long as you want (not that you need my permission in the first place
), but it seems a bit weird nontheless 
I've followed MMORPG.com for longer than I've posted in the forums. My complaint isn't about the people complaining in this forum. My biggest complaint is the number of people who complain about things in Wildstar and any new MMORPG for that matter. I am a part of the Wildstar forums and the #1 thing I see is complaints about how people feel they are entitled to stuff they want in the game, items, etc. and are having a difficult time obtaining them by earning it. The game came out a month ago and rather than playing for x amount of time to achieve things, people are already complaining like they should be given said things. I'm posting that complaint here because I think it is relevant to the MMORPG community since this is what I perceive is killing any new MMORPG that hits the market. I used the comparison of non-MMORPG games as an example of saying we tend to enjoy them more since we can't really complain for anyone to give us anything or change anything via patch or ticket.
Maybe it's an NC$oft thing? The GW2 forums are exactly like this. People just there to troll and complain, people who think the game is the messiah of gaming, and maybe 2 or 3 actual people with opinions on how the game could be better and post constructively. The rest is all nonsense.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
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mmorpg.com is run by NCSoft?!?!?!?! I knew something fishy was going on....
It all makes sense now! Haha
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Man I wanted to like WIldstar, I used to think it would become my new WOW (as far as how much I played it).
First beta came and I LOVED IT.. Then beta stopped and I started to play SWG and I actually fell in love with it too. Then Second beta invite came and I could not stay logged into WIldstar for more then 30 mins at a time...
For me it came down to two things..
1. Classes: they were just not that much fun to play, even at early levels compared to other games like WOW and SWG
2. Telegraphs: Just far TOO MANY damn telegraphs....I just could not deal with it, I felt like I was playing the telegraphs and not the game. My attention for some reason always stayed looking at the bright lights around my feet and not the character or game world.
Wildstar seemed like a pretty well made and polished game. But those two issues where just to much for me to handle.
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Played: Nexus:Kingdom of the Winds, Everquest, DAoC, Everquest 2, WoW, Matrix Online, Vangaurd, SWG, DDO, EVE, Fallen Earth, LoTRo, CoX, Champions Online, WAR, Darkfall, Mortal Online, Guild Wars, Rift, Tera, Aion, AoC, Gods and Heroes, DCUO, FF14, TSW, SWTOR, GW2, Wildstar, ESO, ArcheAge
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Hmm as of right now I have yet to have any real complaints about this one. My wife and I have been playing for about two weeks now and we still love it. We are enjoying the humor very much, its a nice breath of fresh air compared to everything else out there that seems so serious. The art style isnt the greatest but its not bad at all its actually a beautifully done world. Combat is not a face roll event either you have to pay attention which keeps us involved. The questing is for the most part the same as you have seen a million times but that doesnt bother me much because there isnt this wall of text when you pick up a quest and most of them take you places that are actually fun to go.
In closing I must say that I am really enjoying myself with this one, which was unexpected I thought I would hate it but quite the opposite. Not sure how long we will stick with it but atm we have no intentions of stopping anytime soon. Hats off to you NCSoft.
Yeah this is a big turn-off. The pressure it creates, feel the same way as Torvaldr.
Should be like this:
If you buy game time, let's say 30 days only when you log in that day 1 day should be substracted.
Either that or reduce costs to 1/3 or have a feature based model
Like
- hardware and software maintenance costs
- supporting development of new content (and thus getting access to it)
- advanced customer support
- live events (whatever happened to those)
all combined for 15€/month
or each part depending on how much it costs
hard & software should be like 1-2€ / month, wouldn't mind paying that 10k players paying 2€ / month - that's enough to support a big cluster of dedicated servers including maintenance.
development of new content, whatever happened to this? subscription costs back in the day were justified by us receiving new content on a regular basis. if we're paying a subscription why do we have to buy expansion packs?
advanced customer support apart from the basic self-help tools like "I'm stuck" or "I met a bug". actually I wouldn't know what I would use it for.
live events, a relic of the past it seems. DMs creating an in-game live experience by pretending to be an invader or sending players on truffle hunts with rewards or organized races or whatever. With linear tier-based and instanced content those seem to have vanished. For instance when I played Vanguard I would walk around town and see a zombie emoting. I would be curious and approach it. Since I was a shaman I would draw the conclusion that from the way it acted it was somehow diseased or cursed. So I cast cure disease or curse on it and it turned into a beautiful female that gave me some tokens I could use to receive items. That was pretty awesome.
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I can quote your quote of his quote........THIS is MMORPG.com in a nutshell.
Just endlessly quote the opinion above you....change the color in some text.....admire your own brilliance.
It's better to lurk in forums and be thought a fool...than to endlessly "Quote" and remove all doubts.