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Taking an active stand for Horizons
Kethrym
Member Posts: 85
A few years ago i purchased Horizons, day 3 of retail to be exact. I loved it. The music was gorgeous the graphics were great (at the time) and the content was........there. I had hope however. I stuck with it for 6 months. Sure there were problems that needed addressing but my friends and I had fun none the less. Real life stepped in and I had to leave for a while. After the EQ2 debacle and dabbling around with some other MMORPG's I remembered how much i loved this game. So i came back and brought my wife with me.
So there we were standing in New Brommel on the Order Server. Ghost town..........*scratches head* "hello?"..................there seemed to be a lack of players. The exact opposite of what i remember. Hmmmmm. I do a search and find about 15 people in my immediate area. I picked a random player level 84 Warrior i think, and sent him a tell. I asked where everyone was. "They left for EQ2 and WoW" he says. "But those of left are probably the tightest community in any MMORPG" After a nice chat he basically tells me that the company needs to be more proactive in advertising the game and that something should be done.
After a few weeks back I have to agree.
So here i "stand" before you. Is there anyone who is interested in helping the game out? Maybe a new Database for players. Stratics and Warcry are a joke. If we want the game to get better there are things we can do to help. Is anyone out there willing to help?
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A project has been started using up to data dumps from the TG database it can be found at http://horizons.gamersinfo.net. There is also the community forum http://community.istaria.com/Web/ where you might be able to illicit other supporters for any hz related thing you wish to do.
It is true many have left the game and its unfortunate however the game is improving and perhaps in time more will return. I have seen a few returns lately and hope to see more as the devs continue to improve the game.
The Gamersinfo database is an awesome asset and I can't wait to see it refined and expanded. :-)
I play on Chaos and I can happily say that our New Brommel is normally well populated with new players. I spend a fair amount of time there making gear for the newcomers, so I've had a good view of the population growth there. I hope Order starts seeing it soon, too; in the meantime, the upside of having a lower population than Chaos is that Order is almost always the first up after a really big update. Tphphbbbit!
As for supporting the game... I started posting here because there really wasn't much in the way of a fan voice here. I'd like to see a player community take shape, just to show that the game is alive and active despite the howling trolls.
Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos
Until Tulga becomes that good you will be fighting an uphill battle.
Games stand on their own and deliver when the company behind it is stable profressional and very competant.
Unfortunately Tulga is not any of those at this time.
People will take up the project get bored and then leave. So perhaps the energy would be better directed at keeping Tulga on task and their priorities straight.
I'd disagree about Tulga not being stable, professional, or competant, but that is mostly a matter of individual opinion. A more objective assessment would be that Tulga is still short-staffed. No matter how dedicated the developer, there are only so many hours in the day.
Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos
I *might* consider going back to Horizons if they finally get around to improving, rather than destroying further, the monk class - and if they make monk combat look more like what they'd said it would less like a one handed boxer.
I was in the closed beta, and vehemently defended the devs from all the nay-sayers during that time...only to be utterly disappointed and betrayed come release. It comes down to broken promises and lies. If you can't trust the folks making the game to be honest wiht their loyal fan-base, what hope can there for the game overall?
Me.
"Death is a dignitary who when he comes announced is to be received
with formal manifestations of respect, even by those most familiar with him."
- Ambrose Gwinnett Bierce
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Good God Dozer, are you still trolling these forums? You are one of those people who kill forums like MMORGP.com. You sit and you troll away until no one bothers to use the boards anymore, and then you sit like a vulture and attack any new person that comes! Does it give you some perverse pleasure to post negative things about a game you no longer care about, play, or intend to play in the future? Can't you go direct you posting energy towards something that you like?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
I'm not saying you should like HZ, far from it. You don't have to. If you love WoW, or DnL, or EQII, then go post positive things about those games on their boards! Or constructive criticism. It doesn't matter. But don't sit here and post about something you don't care about just to grief others.
Please.... Go.... Away.... Already!
Whether he's a troll on these forums or not (I honestly don't browse around the entire forums that much, only in items I'm interested in or have an opinion on), the sad part is that he is correct. David Bowman was the vocal one on the beta forums and the beta chat saying they had all the bugs fixed, stable server setups and configs, and cleaned up client productivity on the developer servers. He is the one that kept feeding the blatant lies to both those who were constantly calling him on it, and the loyal fans of the product like myself.
I'm sorry, even IF the game has changed as the recent article on here states - I'm not believing it. Why? Based solely on the fact that they interviewed Bowman himself and he said it.
How's that well known addage go again? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
They picked the wrong guy to use to try and re-promote the product, 18 months isn't quite long enough for some of those of us who got burned because we were foolish to enough to have faith in the guy and the product. At least MY memory doesn't fade that quickly.
So gopher65, before you go on a rampage against someone here you should really make sure they aren't actually being truthful.
"Death is a dignitary who when he comes announced is to be received
with formal manifestations of respect, even by those most familiar with him."
- Ambrose Gwinnett Bierce
Whether he's a troll on these forums or not (I honestly don't browse around the entire forums that much, only in items I'm interested in or have an opinion on), the sad part is that he is correct. David Bowman was the vocal one on the beta forums and the beta chat saying they had all the bugs fixed, stable server setups and configs, and cleaned up client productivity on the developer servers. He is the one that kept feeding the blatant lies to both those who were constantly calling him on it, and the loyal fans of the product like myself.
I'm sorry, even IF the game has changed as the recent article on here states - I'm not believing it. Why? Based solely on the fact that they interviewed Bowman himself and he said it.
How's that well known addage go again? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
They picked the wrong guy to use to try and re-promote the product, 18 months isn't quite long enough for some of those of us who got burned because we were foolish to enough to have faith in the guy and the product. At least MY memory doesn't fade that quickly.
So gopher65, before you go on a rampage against someone here you should really make sure they aren't actually being truthful.
You sound like a troll too. Scanning the forums of a game that you dont like and are unwilling to play just to make sure you get your negative 2 cents in. Horizons has turned a corner recently, and just doesn't need either of you rehashing the past. Just get over yourself and go post on how much you love something instead of what you hate. Lastly, I bet it made you feel real good to revamp your negativity and have probably been waiting 6 months to try and put another nail in the Horizons coffin. Loyal fan? With fans like you, who needs trolls? You say "at least MY memory doesn't fade that quickly". Well maybe it should dude, maybe you should just get the f%ck over it.
Whether he's a troll on these forums or not (I honestly don't browse around the entire forums that much, only in items I'm interested in or have an opinion on), the sad part is that he is correct. David Bowman was the vocal one on the beta forums and the beta chat saying they had all the bugs fixed, stable server setups and configs, and cleaned up client productivity on the developer servers. He is the one that kept feeding the blatant lies to both those who were constantly calling him on it, and the loyal fans of the product like myself.
I'm sorry, even IF the game has changed as the recent article on here states - I'm not believing it. Why? Based solely on the fact that they interviewed Bowman himself and he said it.
How's that well known addage go again? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
They picked the wrong guy to use to try and re-promote the product, 18 months isn't quite long enough for some of those of us who got burned because we were foolish to enough to have faith in the guy and the product. At least MY memory doesn't fade that quickly.
So gopher65, before you go on a rampage against someone here you should really make sure they aren't actually being truthful.
You sound like a troll too. Scanning the forums of a game that you dont like and are unwilling to play just to make sure you get your negative 2 cents in. Horizons has turned a corner recently, and just doesn't need either of you rehashing the past. Just get over yourself and go post on how much you love something instead of what you hate. Lastly, I bet it made you feel real good to revamp your negativity and have probably been waiting 6 months to try and put another nail in the Horizons coffin. Loyal fan? With fans like you, who needs trolls? You say "at least MY memory doesn't fade that quickly". Well maybe it should dude, maybe you should just get the f%ck over it.
What corner? That whole article is nothing but lies about the game. Performance issues are still the same. Only new content has been fluff. Nothing that really makes the game perform better. Everything said about how many quests and that is just a down right lie. I don't know if the person that wrote that review even played the game or if they took DB's word for what is in it.
I mean come on you can't seriously think this is true? "The game features one-thousand-ninety-six new bipedal quests, three-hundred-and-eighty new dragon quests, two-thousand-forty-five new monster types, two-thousand-five-hundred-and-fifty new player owned plots of land, two-hundred-and-five square kilometers of new lands to explore and a host of other numbers" I can't believe you people are taking this as true. This is about as good as the 80% patch they would install day of retail. You know the miracle build that never was seen.
You can call me what you like but one thing I do not do is lie about this game. Unlike others I know. I also think it is strange nothing about the new engine they are suppose to be making for the game. You know the one they put on hold 2 months ago.
You have a nice day now.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
See you can't even show me where I am wrong. So ergo I am right. Thanks for proving me right. Trolls attack which is something I do not do.
You have a good day now.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Whether he's a troll on these forums or not (I honestly don't browse around the entire forums that much, only in items I'm interested in or have an opinion on), the sad part is that he is correct. David Bowman was the vocal one on the beta forums and the beta chat saying they had all the bugs fixed, stable server setups and configs, and cleaned up client productivity on the developer servers. He is the one that kept feeding the blatant lies to both those who were constantly calling him on it, and the loyal fans of the product like myself.
I'm sorry, even IF the game has changed as the recent article on here states - I'm not believing it. Why? Based solely on the fact that they interviewed Bowman himself and he said it.
How's that well known addage go again? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
They picked the wrong guy to use to try and re-promote the product, 18 months isn't quite long enough for some of those of us who got burned because we were foolish to enough to have faith in the guy and the product. At least MY memory doesn't fade that quickly.
So gopher65, before you go on a rampage against someone here you should really make sure they aren't actually being truthful.
You sound like a troll too. Scanning the forums of a game that you dont like and are unwilling to play just to make sure you get your negative 2 cents in. Horizons has turned a corner recently, and just doesn't need either of you rehashing the past. Just get over yourself and go post on how much you love something instead of what you hate. Lastly, I bet it made you feel real good to revamp your negativity and have probably been waiting 6 months to try and put another nail in the Horizons coffin. Loyal fan? With fans like you, who needs trolls? You say "at least MY memory doesn't fade that quickly". Well maybe it should dude, maybe you should just get the f%ck over it.
Appearantly the only "troll" here would be you. I never said I hated the game itself. Yes, there were things that needed to be improved, changes they'd made that drastically sent core systems into degrading worthlessness...but a lot of games do that at first. I still have my disks for Horizons, my account is still there just not active anymore. I re-activated my account a few months back, only to see that absolutely nothing had been changed. So I'm a troll for giving actual constructive critism on a product that I paid money for, played for over 6 months initially, and left because of not only poor development but also because the lead dev did nothing but lie to the fan base repeatedly from beta all the way through that time? I'm sorry, but you're way off base and you're attitude towards me is beyond reproachable.
You tell me to get over the fact that I followed a gome over for over 2 years of development, from the point in which it was nothing more than a single webpage with a basic concept they had in mind for a game, all the way through to up to 6 months after it's release - defending the developers because in that time I'd thought I'd gotten to know them well enough to trust all they were saying. Only to finally give up, being branded a "fanboi" by most everyone who used their forums for my stout defense, after seeing for all that time that not a single thing said was truthful from them. Yeah, ok...I'll get right to work on that for you.
Honestly? Before you go bashing someone for sonething like this, you really should have even the slightest clue about what you're talking about. Also, you should try to be more civil, especially when you yourself have not even been personally attacked. It's a pity how degraded this forums had gotten from people lacking people skills and basic kindness. Maybe you just had a bad day, and that's understandable - I've been there myself. It's just usualyl best to try not to let it poor over onto forums like these and to try not to dump it on people who are undeserving of such.
"Death is a dignitary who when he comes announced is to be received
with formal manifestations of respect, even by those most familiar with him."
- Ambrose Gwinnett Bierce
Hehe actually Dozer I kinda laughed when I read that interview. It was pretty funny. Funny thing is, the interviewer said (paraphrased (cause I am too lazy to go look it up) "performance issues still exist, but it is like night and day compared to how it was at launch)). And he/she is right. There most CERTAINLY ARE performance issues with the HZ client. If there weren't performance issues, why would TG have started a total rewrite of the graphics engine?
But the point is, in Feb 2004, in the middle of a totally empty field, with no mobs, not trees, no clutter, and no players, I got ~10-15 frames per second when I first logged in (which is truely pitifly bad). Now under those same conditions with slightly higher graphics settings (same computer) I get ~35 FPS. This FPS increase has nothing to do with the emptier servers, because out in the middle of nowhere with no one around me I might as well be in an instanced world.
There are still some MAJOR issues that I have with the both the client and the server. But every two months or so I get an FPS boost, or something like that. I just discovered the other day that my page files no longer keep growing forever if I teleport all over the place. Apparently HZ has figured out how to unload objects from memory (finally!).
My computer isn't very good, so I get bad FPS in all cities, especially if there are more than 15 or 20 players + NPCs close to me. Like I said, there are still major problems. But it constantly gets better.
Oh, and about those quests. Technically that is true. Most of those new quests are simply WoW style "Go to X and pick up Y, then Kill ten Z" style tasks. Not true epic quests like everyone really wants. And remember, this is from launch. Since the game was launched I would say there have been maybe.... 40 or 50 real quests added for bipeds, and about the same number for dragons. Same with the other content. All true. And DB wasn't the one who made that list. He's just the one who handed it to the interviewer.
I agree over time performance has been a little better. But don't make it seem like the console engine and the coding did it. It clearly is because of the people leaving the game. Less people less problems. As far as the quests go and what is stated in that article I disagree with these numbers. I can't believe you can make a statement DB did not make this list. Can you give us proof of this and show us who did. Also why wounldn't the person that did that list do the interview? Bottom line we still can't trust anything DB has to say and I really wish CT was the boss of TulgAE so he could fire DB. That could bring more people back than any of the free game time, coffee mugs and Tshirts they give away.
I still would like to also see the real numbers of this game just to prove they are making enough to run this game without other peoples money. This also would be a great selling point to bring people back. Like I said before this game has been losing cash from Chpater 11 to TulgAe to Baker and I still have not seen any proof to show this would be false.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Because Manga said he made the list and gave it to David in IRC.
Performance wise:
1) TG does not delete user accounts. They are all still active in the database. Therefore Chaos (non-RP NA server) has about 20000 user accounts, even though MAYBE 4000 of them are actually being played. Anyone can instantly reactivate their unused account without any help from CS. That's a big Database.
2) I said I was in the middle of no where. Even though HZ doesn't have "zones" like EQII does, it does have zone areas (I'm not sure what the real name for them is). Each of these areas is handled by different machines, and you are instantly transferred from one area server to the next as you run across the land. If you are in an area server all by yourself (which can happen in the middle of no where in a few forgotten places that not many people visit), then it doesn't matter how many people are on the server that servers, say tazoon. It is completely seperate from you. It does not effect you, at least FPS wise.
Things like Vault load time, House Storage load time, Forms/techs list load time will be effected, but not your FPS, which is mainly determined by the objects (and number of polys in those objects) in your immediate vacinity.
And for the last time (probably
), everything that the interview stated as "added since RELEASE" (not since you played the game, if you ever did) is true. Most (if not all) Crystals for instance were not in the game at release, so therefore they were added after release. Dryads and Satyrs were not in the game at release, so they must have been added after release. The game had like ZERO quests at release, so therefore most of the quests in the game have been added since release (many of the tasks that were there at release were deleted during the server merge, and new ones added in their place).
As for money. I personally don't believe that TG is currently making enough money off subs to run this game (as far as I know, but there has never been a statement from TG about this). They have however, recieved quite a bit of investment from various sources in the past 4 months. Chris seems to be confident that they can continue operating for at least another 2 years without staff cuts or taking other extreme measures. Whether or not this is true I can't say.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Yeah, you are mistaken. Again.
The dryads and satyrs were in the game as *game assets*, but were not playable until the events that freed them were concluded. They can't be counted as being in at release unless they were available on the first day of live.
Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos
Yeah, you are mistaken. Again.
The dryads and satyrs were in the game as *game assets*, but were not playable until the events that freed them were concluded. They can't be counted as being in at release unless they were available on the first day of live.
You need to go back and read what DB said, they were in the game by his own words. The events you needed to run were already setup for it. But then again we may have been lied too about this.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos
Not me that award goes to DB. Just a few of his quotes.
cokewolf: Callahan:what do you mean by shattered
CallahanValkesh: Coke: there are one or two towns you cant geto by the portals currently, thats what I mean
devilduck: Callahan there is actually about 5 towns you cant get to from portals that i know of
cokewolf: ahh, you mean player towns that dont have a working portal
David Bowman: Callahan: the travel gates are currently open, but they will not continue to be open forever
knju daot: david, does that mean we will have to bind to the npc near the portals of other towns?
David Bowman: knju: you will be able to unlock destinations and gates through a variety of means; quests, coin and just exploration
tiatix: David; What about armors customization? Is it possible?
David Bowman: tiatix: I believe we will have it in by launch, but I'll reserve any further comment until I see it pass QA.
Kyran Foxfire: How about socketed items? Adventurers could use a bone or two.
David Bowman: Kyran: socketing techniques and crystals will be in the game by release
tiatix: David: Will we see any caste plot before release?
David Bowman: tiatix: there are castle plots available now
Semarin: David, will we see roaming weather (moving storms and such) in beta or at release?
David Bowman: Semarin: you should see them during beta... but again they have not passed QA.
Martal_Bau: Will the different blades and handles for weapons make it in??
David Bowman: Martal: yes
David Bowman: None of the world masters will be commenting on any wipe... it is not company policy to discuss or predict character wipes
Anoel: DEVs: when are u taking spirit down for the badly needed maintenance??
David Bowman: anoel: it is not in the control of the world admins or world masters for us to do a database reset... and therefore it should not be predicted because many things could change that would move the timing around significantly.
Anoel: David: Thanks - so next time someone does a system wide announcement, we should ignore it.
David Bowman: Anoel: nope, you should just shake your head like I did
CallahanValkesh: David: So besides WM's making comments about wipes and players bothering you about the future and wipes, how are you doing today
David Bowman: Callahan: fine thank you. I think things are going very well based on past experience.
CallahanValkesh: David: can you comment on whether or not we will see more content updates in the next few weeks then we've seen over the last few months?
David Bowman: Callahan: nope
jmillerdls: so why not just say character wipe?
David Bowman: jmillerdls: we can update any part of the database we choose; that could be everything, or characters only, or just trees in the game
Tostig asks a question about musical instruments getting into the game.
David Bowman: Tostig: they will exist eventually in Istaria, but not at launch
granit: David: this is probably an old question but I'm new. On release will we only be able to play one server per account?and if so, will we be able to have multiple characters per server?
David Bowman: granit: that is incorrect. You will have AT LEAST four character slots per account that you can locate on any shard you choose. You could place them all on one shard or scatter them on four different shards. Again that is the minimum.
**** More chat captures starting at 2:15PM ****
Sweetdestiny: SHHHH... SILENCE..... David is gonna post about LAG... WAIT for his answer!!
David Bowman: Lag is composed of: file loading, character rendering, simulation informing the client of need to render, Internet latency, animation overhead, and maybe some other things that we are still discovering. The file loading, character rendering, simulation informing the client of need to render, and animation overhead will be solved prior to launch. Internet latency is not our domain but well be no worse impacted than any other internet product. New issues will be discovered and optimizations implemented, but I dont believe they will be of the significance of the list I just mentioned.
jmillerdls: David: is the house building and the buildable items going to be more diverse at release? is there going to be refineries in our house? vaults and such?
David Bowman: jmillerdls: community building will see dramatic changes prior to release, it is scheduled and appears to remain on schedule.
Jeet: David to clarify on that, is debug code or other underlying monitoring code slowing some aspects of that down and will that make a significant impact once removed?
David Bowman: Jeet: it will make a few percentage points of impact but I don't want to use that as an excuse for the issues we know about and are solving... it would probably be a 10% fps boost
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One of Bowmans best posts.
<[MC]Darkendcrusader> <Asmodues878> in response to your last answer mr bowman, why are the servers only showing as lite populations and very rarly moderate if you have a growing customer base
<David_Bowman> The server team has continued to optimize the servers and have provided us much more power to support a larger user base on the same size hardware specs. It's really straightforward, the technology is growing substantially.
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I dare say I think this was the post that many started to see who we were really dealing with.
Well, I'll give this a try. I don't expect that this will make any difference to this thread, but it might reach the readers of this thread who have no way of judging the situation but don't generally post.
We are currently in Content Phase one of Beta. While we are now looking at content issues we will continue to make the necessary adjustments to and tests of the servers to be prepared for launch. If you are not entertained by the resultant latency (there is a difference between latency, lag and framerate) that is understandable but not relevant to the task at hand. The reason we need large numbers of people to enter the game at the same time and to attempt to perform game related tasks is to have exactly that poor responsiveness and failed attempts to connect occur now. This is what allows us to fix this prior to launch.
The schools, skills, and special abilities that are in the game will for the most part be in the game at launch. The rate at which progression occurs, the distribution of special abilities, the power settings for those special abilities, and almost all other values related to schools will change. Monster distribution, behaviour, loot, and everything else related to monsters will change (you have not and in some cases will not see all monsters that will be in at launch). We are evaluating the underlying systems for the content. We will be rolling out: item creation appearance variance; combat responsive stances, quests and many other systems, as we need to. We are not doing this in response to anything that you are saying, we are doing this because it has been planned and we are now at the point that it needs to happen. Your feedback is gathered from: support@artifact-entertainment.com emails and from the posts on these forums. We filter that information looking for things that we do not already know and then modify the already existing plans to adjust to the newly discovered knowledge. Most, but not all, of the useful information is a result of observation (thus we read every email and all posts). Emergent behaviour, exploits, server loading, authentication loading, economy and other large-population issues are what we observe and adjust to. Many of the most frustrated posters on this site are unaware of the process and have a high need for reassurance that things are occurring outside of their direct awareness and control. I believe this is from a passion for these types of games otherwise they wouldnt bother to post about their frustrations.
Does Horizons need more time? Yes, or youd be paying for it right now.
Will it be ready by X date? It will be ready when its stable, reliable and fun to play. My experience in making these games (not playing them) is that we are still on schedule for this Fall. What remains to be done? Too many things to attempt to list here, thats why Artifact has employees, to do all of those things. Will it meet everyones expectations? No. Will it be a great game with lots of interesting, exciting, fun things to do and beautiful, dangerous, fantastic places to explore? Yes. Will players be able to make a difference in what happens on their shard? Yes. Have the Beta participants seen everything? No, not even close. Will they see everything before launch? No.
I want to quote a post from one of the most hostile people in the informal chat (by the way, if people cannot respect that some of the developers spent thirty minutes late at night CHATTING in a chat room then I will be certain to not encourage employees who work 16 hour days to relax in the beta chat):
Ive waited months for nothing it seems i know whats gonna happend now no use kidding my self.I was in chat last night,1 am EST Listing to the dev team talk to the fanboys.All the time getting more sick to my stomich wondering why my questions about why the dev team never replys to posts like this.Then david gave me crap about how my attitude dosent help anything when i asked like 6 times wheres the content and why arent the devs responding to the large threads that everyones reading and posting to heh.One thing that seriously scared the hell out of me is when one dev "I forget who" responded to someones question with "those things were promised by people who are no longer with this company".Man thats some scary @#$! when someone says something like that no matter what the question is.
Artifact Entertainment was started in November 1999 to create massively multiplayer games. The founders created a great deal of writing that they shared on the Internet and called the design for Horizons. They secured funding and attempted to turn that set of ideas into a game. They hired many talented people. They worked for two years and were unable to even come close to creating a game. No working server, no working client, no playable game, but many, many conversations on the boards and lots of very interesting art with no massively multiplayer engine within which it would function. That team is no longer with the company and the company has changed. We have server technology, a working client and a playable game. It is not done yet, but will be and will be fun. If that scares you, then I cannot help you. If you dont recognize what weve accomplished and the importance to massively multiplayer gaming of the capabilities that have been put together at Artifact Entertainment then you should go elsewhere, quickly.
To the rest of you: Beta is frustrating to participate in. Its made more difficult by not being certain of what your role is. We appreciate your patience and your time. You are making a huge difference to us. We cannot be prepared for the numbers of people that will come when we launch if you dont play through the frustrations and inconveniences of Beta. We cannot observe the emerging economy and the behaviours of social groups without you. We cannot learn about exploits, crashes on wide varieties of systems, video card oddities due to the many different drivers, preferences of players for UI functionality, and all of the other PLAYER driven information without you. In the next phase of content, well be able to approach the perception of advancement, reward, risk, distribution, accessibility and the other perceptual issues that are very important in game play.
We read every post, we always read and respond to emails that reach us at: support@artifact-entertainment.com. If you have interface suggestions: interface@artifact-entertainment.com.
David Bowman
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Of course the one statement Bowman made only in chat and this was back in beta days when the buffer was so small it was just about impossible to save anything that was said in there. But he said it and yes we all know now it was clearly not true.
The build we are playing now and the one for release are different..So why are we playing/testing this one? Why not put the release one in now? I have heard this mentioned over the passed several weeks and just dont understand it
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Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Played last night again great grahpics, amazing textures, phenomenal music and a truly RPG feel. This is a special game. No lag at all and no glitches so far thank you DOZeR for turning me on to this game
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee