I agree with the OP, enough that I haven't come to this site in a while because I've been playing.
I'm having trouble with the land a bit. I have one 8x8 piece and that's in an arid war zone that I spent many hours trying to find. I've searched for demolitions and gone to a bunch. The fewest number of people I've seen is 40, most are north of 60 people all trying to grab the plot of land.
I agree with the game mechanic and I don't want to change it, scarcity is important. I do think that there should be a limit though. Certainly not 1, but maybe 10 or 20 plots of land to an account.
It's rough with 1 small farm, and it's a huge upgrade for me over having none.
The land is finite by design. That design is to facilitate land trade and an additional competitive element.
That land being grabbed at early access (though more land became available repeatedly by the opening of many new servers as time passed) didn't mean that land vanished... It just meant that it would become available later (as in now) via expiration of plots or active trade.
If you are truly an active archeum player then you would know all of this.
Therein lies the problem. Economy is a huge part of AA and right now where land is concerned, Demand supercede supply by a huge amount. And the only way to increase supply is new servers and llikely not happening soon. Just saying that land will be freed up later is hardly an answer. Like I said the supply remains the same.
Imagine Apple deciding to make only 1000 iPhone 6's and stopped making anymore. And amid the worldwide chaos and angry mobs burning down apple stores , Tim Cook goes " hey you apple diehards, chill...I know alot of those new iphone owners also bought a dozen more so those phones will eventually show up on ebay.
If you are truly an Apple diehard you would know this."
The land is finite by design. That design is to facilitate land trade and an additional competitive element.
That land being grabbed at early access (though more land became available repeatedly by the opening of many new servers as time passed) didn't mean that land vanished... It just meant that it would become available later (as in now) via expiration of plots or active trade.
If you are truly an active archeum player then you would know all of this.
Therein lies the problem. Economy is a huge part of AA and right now where land is concerned, Demand supercede supply by a huge amount. And the only way to increase supply is new servers and llikely not happening soon. Just saying that land will be freed up later is hardly an answer. Like I said the supply remains the same.
Imagine Apple deciding to make only 1000 iPhone 6's and stopped making anymore. And amid the worldwide chaos and angry mobs burning down apple stores , Tim Cook goes " hey you apple diehards, chill...I know alot of those new iphone owners also bought a dozen more so those phones will eventually show up on ebay.
If you are truly an Apple diehard you would know this."
Land is meant to be taken up, though. It's part of the economy that land has a value and can be sold.
With or without the land grabbers, land would be full at some point on the server and that's intentional.
This could have been the next big thing, yet will only remain a niche game
I have said repeatedly that this game isn't for everyone. I have just said why it is great for me, and along the way attempted to clear up the bad received wisdom being parroted by people who don't even appear to be playing it.
I am fine with it being niche, I couldn't give a shit about 'the next big thing'.
The land is finite by design. That design is to facilitate land trade and an additional competitive element.
That land being grabbed at early access (though more land became available repeatedly by the opening of many new servers as time passed) didn't mean that land vanished... It just meant that it would become available later (as in now) via expiration of plots or active trade.
If you are truly an active archeum player then you would know all of this.
Therein lies the problem. Economy is a huge part of AA and right now where land is concerned, Demand supercede supply by a huge amount. And the only way to increase supply is new servers and llikely not happening soon. Just saying that land will be freed up later is hardly an answer. Like I said the supply remains the same.
Land is meant to be taken up, though. It's part of the economy that land has a value and can be sold.
With or without the land grabbers, land would be full at some point on the server and that's intentional.
These guys just won't ever get this Holden.
See the part in red? It's like he isn't even reading what I type before just repeating the same old mantra... Did I only say that land freeing up 'later' was the answer? I am pretty sure I said that land is freeing and and being traded right now and can be played for and earn't right now.
The only ones complaining at this point it seems are the ones that want it for free.
Sorry vesavius, but after looking at all your posts, and seeing that almost every single thing youve posted is in praise of Archeage, I feel like youre too emotionally invested in the game to be objective. Hard to trust people who solely post positives while actively spinning bad PR to make their game look better.
My biggest problmens with AA is how badly the launch was handled, the failure to give patrons what they paid for, and last, and most importantly the community is toxic. Any person who wants an objective review of the game would do well to disregard the myriad of your posts.
Sorry vesavius, but after looking at all your posts, and seeing that almost every single thing youve posted is in praise of Archeage, I feel like youre too emotionally invested in the game to be objective.
My biggest problmens with AA is how badly the launch was handled.
Liking and supporting it is too 'emotionally invested', but repeatedly hating on it is fine, valid, and objective? Are you not going to question the objectivity of the repetitive haters in order to dismiss their views? No? Thought not.
Look, what gave you the idea anywhere here that I was ever trying to be objective? Not that you have to be a cynical complainer to be 'objective'. It is very strange how negativity is seen as more valid than positivity in today's culture.
Trust who you want Cal, I don't know you so I don't feel the lack of your's is a loss, but at least try to be consistent. Operating from a platform where only negativity is trustworthy is not a good thing.
The launch was borked, yes, but that's gone now. Time to get over it. A grudge is a poisonous thing to harbour.
The game does not really appeal to myself, but i respect that the game dares to be different and much more sandboxy than is common these days, it looks good and labour is a really interesting idea. The MMO genre is crying out for more innovation and diversity so I hope it does well.
As for comments above, speaks for itself really.
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Originally posted by Vesavius Utter tosh.Too embarrassing to even reply to past this.
You are really not getting it, are you?
EVE and DF are both niche games. One is successful, because CCP was able to change and adapt, the other is not, because they were adamant(obtuse) in their views.
You can keep your mantra and repeat it until you are blue in the face but it won't get you anywhere. Anything and anyone that is unable to adapt, dies.
Sorry vesavius, but after looking at all your posts, and seeing that almost every single thing youve posted is in praise of Archeage, I feel like youre too emotionally invested in the game to be objective.
My biggest problmens with AA is how badly the launch was handled.
Liking and supporting it is too 'emotionally invested', but repeatedly hating on it is fine, valid, and objective? Are you not going to question the objectivity of the repetitive haters in order to dismiss their views? No? Thought not.
Look, what gave you the idea anywhere here that I was ever trying to be objective? Not that you have to be a cynical complainer to be 'objective'. It is very strange how negativity is seen as more valid than positivity in today's culture.
Trust who you want Cal, I don't know you so I don't feel the lack of your's is a loss, but at least try to be consistent. Operating from a platform where only negativity is trustworthy is not a good thing.
The launch was borked, yes, but that's gone now. Time to get over it. A grudge is a poisonous thing to harbour.
get rid of the utterly immature and toxic community would go a long way to improving the game and perhaps make it more enjoyable for everyone.. lets see Trion fix that.
Originally posted by BladestromHe is basically saying niche games can only be successful niche games if they are not niche. Either trolling or stunningly stupid
Nah, you just misuse the term, probably not even understanding what it means.
EVE is a niche title, yet is has more subs than many mainstream titles.
Niche isn't determined by player base or money the business makes.
Liking and supporting it is too 'emotionally invested', but repeatedly hating on it is fine, valid, and objective? Are you not going to question the objectivity of the repetitive haters in order to dismiss their views? No? Thought not.
Therein lies the problem. You are seeing ever criticism as hate.
Liking and supporting it is too 'emotionally invested', but repeatedly hating on it is fine, valid, and objective? Are you not going to question the objectivity of the repetitive haters in order to dismiss their views? No? Thought not.
Therein lies the problem. You are seeing ever criticism as hate.
Well, you guys are seeing my liking it as being overly 'emotionally invested' as a means of dismissing my opinion, so I guess it's equal.
I wouldn't call hater if i saw any balance from you guys either, but that isn't the case. It is 100% pure bashing. There is no objectivity or even mindedness to is being posted by the vast majority. It seems you only have to be balanced if you like something, not if you just want to bash it.
But you know this I guess, you are just playing tactics. I get that.
Sorry vesavius, but after looking at all your posts, and seeing that almost every single thing youve posted is in praise of Archeage, I feel like youre too emotionally invested in the game to be objective.
My biggest problmens with AA is how badly the launch was handled.
Liking and supporting it is too 'emotionally invested', but repeatedly hating on it is fine, valid, and objective? Are you not going to question the objectivity of the repetitive haters in order to dismiss their views? No? Thought not.
Look, what gave you the idea anywhere here that I was ever trying to be objective? Not that you have to be a cynical complainer to be 'objective'. It is very strange how negativity is seen as more valid than positivity in today's culture.
Trust who you want Cal, I don't know you so I don't feel the lack of your's is a loss, but at least try to be consistent. Operating from a platform where only negativity is trustworthy is not a good thing.
The launch was borked, yes, but that's gone now. Time to get over it. A grudge is a poisonous thing to harbour.
get rid of the utterly immature and toxic community would go a long way to improving the game and perhaps make it more enjoyable for everyone.. lets see Trion fix that.
The community on each server will be different. Mine is fine and easily comparable to other MMORPGs I have played since the MOBA culture infected our games. It has also gotten a lot better since the MMORPG game hopping troll tourists have started to fade away (which was always gonna happen).
If you are easily offended by salty faction chat though, switch it off. I actually rarely use it myself, simply because of guild and family making it unnecessary.
I have to admit though, I don't judge games by their OOC chat... I got over that a good while ago. I find it a superficial and worthless look at a server's culture.
your statement was, "The game that isn't for everyone isn't a niche game, it is a failed game"
I called that utter tosh, because it is. It is a ridiculous statement. Embarrassing, even.
EVE and DF are both niche games. One is successful, because CCP was able to change and adapt, the other is not, because they were adamant(obtuse) in their views.
You have absolutely no idea if AA will thrive within it's niche in the long run. What you clearly want to happen and what will happen is not the same thing.
Whatever. Like I say, I am happy with this being niche. As long as my server is healthy and the game is supported I am good. I will leave the search for the 'huge successes' to the guys that so badly need crowd approval.
But, yes, done with answering your posts, because they are dragging me into replying to nonsense.
I know plenty of people that buy off the AH to make runs. The prices for the raws there certainly are low enough to build up a bankroll in order to buy one of the many plots that come up for sale daily.
Using a lack of land as a reason to hate on this game at this point is ignorant or lazy, but either way tedious.
I know people saying that you can easily earn and get land at this point will go ignored by the people that quit at L10 in a hissyfit over doing some average questing, but, whatever. I will waste my breath and say it anyhow.
The only way to 'get land' now is to buy it from another player for an outrageous sum of gold.
Ofc. I have said this. I have also said that I have seen 16x16 plots for for as little as 200g.
This is NOT an 'outrageous' sum. It is a very acheivable sum. If it isn't for you... Well... Stop whining and get good?
People have been scammed and robbed in MMORPGs since at least EQ (ask anyone who MQed the Jboots or whatever. The fools that fall for it as as bad as the dicks that do it IMO. Saying that, I have spoken to a lot of people (guild, family, our alliances, faction chat) and I have yet had one speak about being scammed.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I am suggesting that you are getting an inflated view of how much it happens based on a few forum posts.
I would imagine your 'plenty of people' are those already well established in the game that have land vs those that don't.
I thought I was clear that I was talking about people without land.
I hold nothing against you for enjoying the game. I also applaud you for finding a guild that does group runs. But don't go around and say everything within the game is all peachy keen when in fact it's not.
Wow, this means that that you haven't played the game with a guild that does things as basic as runs? Because that's how this statement comes across...
Just how much have you played this game? Past L10? Or are you operating off 90% received wisdom put out by the whiners and haters? If so, you need to watch that because it can turn you into a whiner and hater yourself.
Look, get over the land thing.
This is a competitive game that uses a finite land mechanic to encourage competitive play. Whining about not being guaranteed land is as bad as whining about not being given raid gear at level 1.
It's there to be played for and earn't. Complaining again and again over not having it is just tediously entitled.
You need to emotionally move on. Either adapt and look as getting that land as a challenge to be risen to or find something else to do, because this continuous complaining about not being automatically given stuff is getting really old.
Your reply is the entitled and inconsiderate. Raid gear is earned equally, everyone needs to gear up and join a raid to get it. Everyone is on equal footing. The first 10,000 players on archeage were given free land and the next 10,000 now need to go through impossible tasks to obtain scraps that become available and you see these two thing as similar?
So many of the people who got land initially defend the fact that land isn't available for everyone and make is seem like they worked for it when in reality they did nothing other than get into the game early and have knowledge from Alpha/Beta that enabled them to quickly go and get available land and in many cases beyond there need so they could sell it at huge profits or use it for their friends and guilds.
Further, people with land have a large advantage in progressing. Money from trading resources that can only be had from property. Ability to do crafting that can only be done with resources from property, all this translates into an xp bonus, gold bonus, and access to better gear.
I know plenty of people that buy off the AH to make runs. The prices for the raws there certainly are low enough to build up a bankroll in order to buy one of the many plots that come up for sale daily.
Using a lack of land as a reason to hate on this game at this point is ignorant or lazy, but either way tedious.
I know people saying that you can easily earn and get land at this point will go ignored by the people that quit at L10 in a hissyfit over doing some average questing, but, whatever. I will waste my breath and say it anyhow.
The only way to 'get land' now is to buy it from another player for an outrageous sum of gold.
Ofc. I have said this. I have also said that I have seen 16x16 plots for for as little as 200g.
This is NOT an 'outrageous' sum. It is a very acheivable sum. If it isn't for you... Well... Stop whining and get good?
People have been scammed and robbed in MMORPGs since at least EQ (ask anyone who MQed the Jboots or whatever. The fools that fall for it as as bad as the dicks that do it IMO. Saying that, I have spoken to a lot of people (guild, family, our alliances, faction chat) and I have yet had one speak about being scammed.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I am suggesting that you are getting an inflated view of how much it happens based on a few forum posts.
I would imagine your 'plenty of people' are those already well established in the game that have land vs those that don't.
I thought I was clear that I was talking about people without land.
I hold nothing against you for enjoying the game. I also applaud you for finding a guild that does group runs. But don't go around and say everything within the game is all peachy keen when in fact it's not.
Wow, this means that that you haven't played the game with a guild that does things as basic as runs? Because that's how this statement comes across...
Just how much have you played this game? Past L10? Or are you operating off 90% received wisdom put out by the whiners and haters? If so, you need to watch that because it can turn you into a whiner and hater yourself.
Look, get over the land thing.
This is a competitive game that uses a finite land mechanic to encourage competitive play. Whining about not being guaranteed land is as bad as whining about not being given raid gear at level 1.
It's there to be played for and earn't. Complaining again and again over not having it is just tediously entitled.
You need to emotionally move on. Either adapt and look as getting that land as a challenge to be risen to or find something else to do, because this continuous complaining about not being automatically given stuff is getting really old.
Your reply is... inconsiderate.
Yes, the reply is inconsiderate, because competitive gaming is inconsiderate. It does not owe you to be considerate.
I don't have much sympathy for people that spend more time complaining about life not being fair then they do earning the solution.
At this point, accept that if you don't have land that you have to play to earn it, which is clearly achievable, or move on to another game, if you decide that it is a deal breaker for you.
Just stop with the whining about it already.
Further, people with land have a large advantage in progressing....
I know plenty of people that buy off the AH to make runs. The prices for the raws there certainly are low enough to build up a bankroll in order to buy one of the many plots that come up for sale daily.
Using a lack of land as a reason to hate on this game at this point is ignorant or lazy, but either way tedious.
I know people saying that you can easily earn and get land at this point will go ignored by the people that quit at L10 in a hissyfit over doing some average questing, but, whatever. I will waste my breath and say it anyhow.
The only way to 'get land' now is to buy it from another player for an outrageous sum of gold.
Ofc. I have said this. I have also said that I have seen 16x16 plots for for as little as 200g.
This is NOT an 'outrageous' sum. It is a very acheivable sum. If it isn't for you... Well... Stop whining and get good?
People have been scammed and robbed in MMORPGs since at least EQ (ask anyone who MQed the Jboots or whatever. The fools that fall for it as as bad as the dicks that do it IMO. Saying that, I have spoken to a lot of people (guild, family, our alliances, faction chat) and I have yet had one speak about being scammed.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I am suggesting that you are getting an inflated view of how much it happens based on a few forum posts.
I would imagine your 'plenty of people' are those already well established in the game that have land vs those that don't.
I thought I was clear that I was talking about people without land.
I hold nothing against you for enjoying the game. I also applaud you for finding a guild that does group runs. But don't go around and say everything within the game is all peachy keen when in fact it's not.
Wow, this means that that you haven't played the game with a guild that does things as basic as runs? Because that's how this statement comes across...
Just how much have you played this game? Past L10? Or are you operating off 90% received wisdom put out by the whiners and haters? If so, you need to watch that because it can turn you into a whiner and hater yourself.
Look, get over the land thing.
This is a competitive game that uses a finite land mechanic to encourage competitive play. Whining about not being guaranteed land is as bad as whining about not being given raid gear at level 1.
It's there to be played for and earn't. Complaining again and again over not having it is just tediously entitled.
You need to emotionally move on. Either adapt and look as getting that land as a challenge to be risen to or find something else to do, because this continuous complaining about not being automatically given stuff is getting really old.
Your reply is... inconsiderate.
Yes, the reply is inconsiderate, because competitive gaming is inconsiderate. It does not owe you to be considerate.
I don't have much sympathy for people that spend more time complaining about life not being fair then they do earning the solution.
At this point, accept that if you don't have land that you have to play to earn it, which is clearly achievable, or move on to another game, if you decide that it is a deal breaker for you.
Just stop with the whining about it already.
Further, people with land have a large advantage in progressing....
Then get yourself some!
Good lord...
Have fun playing by yourself very soon. Then we can watch all of the inconsiderate elitists that ruined their own game devour each other. Bring popcorn.
The attitudes of the "haves" is terrible. First they say you arent tough enough, then they say you cant handle the game, then they say.........You know what, never mind. If theres one thing Ive noticed its the "haves" thumbing their noses at the have nots, as if some how theyre superior. And Vesavius you see the irony in your comment "....stay for the people." The "haves" are the ones driving off the people.
Please enjoy your game, and leave the rest of the MMO world uninfected.
The attitudes of the "haves" is terrible. First they say you arent tough enough, then they say you cant handle the game, then they say.........You know what, never mind. If theres one thing Ive noticed its the "haves" thumbing their noses at the have nots, as if some how theyre superior. And Vesavius you see the irony in your comment "....stay for the people." The "haves" are the ones driving off the people.
Please enjoy your game, and leave the rest of the MMO world uninfected.
I was going to mention that actually.
"Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this."
I wonder if he noticed the irony since attitude of players like him is driving the people away from the game.
This is why sandboxes are destined to fail or either have a very small playerbase. People like him do not even realise the amount of damage they do the games they so aggressively defend.
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I agree with the OP, enough that I haven't come to this site in a while because I've been playing.
I'm having trouble with the land a bit. I have one 8x8 piece and that's in an arid war zone that I spent many hours trying to find. I've searched for demolitions and gone to a bunch. The fewest number of people I've seen is 40, most are north of 60 people all trying to grab the plot of land.
I agree with the game mechanic and I don't want to change it, scarcity is important. I do think that there should be a limit though. Certainly not 1, but maybe 10 or 20 plots of land to an account.
It's rough with 1 small farm, and it's a huge upgrade for me over having none.
Asdar
Therein lies the problem. Economy is a huge part of AA and right now where land is concerned, Demand supercede supply by a huge amount. And the only way to increase supply is new servers and llikely not happening soon. Just saying that land will be freed up later is hardly an answer. Like I said the supply remains the same.
Imagine Apple deciding to make only 1000 iPhone 6's and stopped making anymore. And amid the worldwide chaos and angry mobs burning down apple stores , Tim Cook goes " hey you apple diehards, chill...I know alot of those new iphone owners also bought a dozen more so those phones will eventually show up on ebay.
If you are truly an Apple diehard you would know this."
Land is meant to be taken up, though. It's part of the economy that land has a value and can be sold.
With or without the land grabbers, land would be full at some point on the server and that's intentional.
I have said repeatedly that this game isn't for everyone. I have just said why it is great for me, and along the way attempted to clear up the bad received wisdom being parroted by people who don't even appear to be playing it.
I am fine with it being niche, I couldn't give a shit about 'the next big thing'.
These guys just won't ever get this Holden.
See the part in red? It's like he isn't even reading what I type before just repeating the same old mantra... Did I only say that land freeing up 'later' was the answer? I am pretty sure I said that land is freeing and and being traded right now and can be played for and earn't right now.
The only ones complaining at this point it seems are the ones that want it for free.
Sorry vesavius, but after looking at all your posts, and seeing that almost every single thing youve posted is in praise of Archeage, I feel like youre too emotionally invested in the game to be objective. Hard to trust people who solely post positives while actively spinning bad PR to make their game look better.
My biggest problmens with AA is how badly the launch was handled, the failure to give patrons what they paid for, and last, and most importantly the community is toxic. Any person who wants an objective review of the game would do well to disregard the myriad of your posts.
Liking and supporting it is too 'emotionally invested', but repeatedly hating on it is fine, valid, and objective? Are you not going to question the objectivity of the repetitive haters in order to dismiss their views? No? Thought not.
Look, what gave you the idea anywhere here that I was ever trying to be objective? Not that you have to be a cynical complainer to be 'objective'. It is very strange how negativity is seen as more valid than positivity in today's culture.
Trust who you want Cal, I don't know you so I don't feel the lack of your's is a loss, but at least try to be consistent. Operating from a platform where only negativity is trustworthy is not a good thing.
The launch was borked, yes, but that's gone now. Time to get over it. A grudge is a poisonous thing to harbour.
The game that isn't for everyone isn't a niche game, it is a failed game.
The game does not really appeal to myself, but i respect that the game dares to be different and much more sandboxy than is common these days, it looks good and labour is a really interesting idea. The MMO genre is crying out for more innovation and diversity so I hope it does well.
As for comments above, speaks for itself really.
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Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Utter tosh.
Too embarrassing to even reply to past this.
He is basically saying niche games can only be successful niche games if they are not niche.[mod edit]
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Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
You are really not getting it, are you?
EVE and DF are both niche games. One is successful, because CCP was able to change and adapt, the other is not, because they were adamant(obtuse) in their views.
You can keep your mantra and repeat it until you are blue in the face but it won't get you anywhere. Anything and anyone that is unable to adapt, dies.
get rid of the utterly immature and toxic community would go a long way to improving the game and perhaps make it more enjoyable for everyone.. lets see Trion fix that.
Nah, you just misuse the term, probably not even understanding what it means.
EVE is a niche title, yet is has more subs than many mainstream titles.
Niche isn't determined by player base or money the business makes.
No MMO ever released is for everyone..but thank you for stating the obvious. Thanks..i guess?
Therein lies the problem. You are seeing ever criticism as hate.
Well, you guys are seeing my liking it as being overly 'emotionally invested' as a means of dismissing my opinion, so I guess it's equal.
I wouldn't call hater if i saw any balance from you guys either, but that isn't the case. It is 100% pure bashing. There is no objectivity or even mindedness to is being posted by the vast majority. It seems you only have to be balanced if you like something, not if you just want to bash it.
But you know this I guess, you are just playing tactics. I get that.
The community on each server will be different. Mine is fine and easily comparable to other MMORPGs I have played since the MOBA culture infected our games. It has also gotten a lot better since the MMORPG game hopping troll tourists have started to fade away (which was always gonna happen).
If you are easily offended by salty faction chat though, switch it off. I actually rarely use it myself, simply because of guild and family making it unnecessary.
I have to admit though, I don't judge games by their OOC chat... I got over that a good while ago. I find it a superficial and worthless look at a server's culture.
Getting what?
your statement was, "The game that isn't for everyone isn't a niche game, it is a failed game"
I called that utter tosh, because it is. It is a ridiculous statement. Embarrassing, even.
You have absolutely no idea if AA will thrive within it's niche in the long run. What you clearly want to happen and what will happen is not the same thing.
Whatever. Like I say, I am happy with this being niche. As long as my server is healthy and the game is supported I am good. I will leave the search for the 'huge successes' to the guys that so badly need crowd approval.
But, yes, done with answering your posts, because they are dragging me into replying to nonsense.
Your reply is the entitled and inconsiderate. Raid gear is earned equally, everyone needs to gear up and join a raid to get it. Everyone is on equal footing. The first 10,000 players on archeage were given free land and the next 10,000 now need to go through impossible tasks to obtain scraps that become available and you see these two thing as similar?
So many of the people who got land initially defend the fact that land isn't available for everyone and make is seem like they worked for it when in reality they did nothing other than get into the game early and have knowledge from Alpha/Beta that enabled them to quickly go and get available land and in many cases beyond there need so they could sell it at huge profits or use it for their friends and guilds.
Further, people with land have a large advantage in progressing. Money from trading resources that can only be had from property. Ability to do crafting that can only be done with resources from property, all this translates into an xp bonus, gold bonus, and access to better gear.
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Ethion
Yes, the reply is inconsiderate, because competitive gaming is inconsiderate. It does not owe you to be considerate.
I don't have much sympathy for people that spend more time complaining about life not being fair then they do earning the solution.
At this point, accept that if you don't have land that you have to play to earn it, which is clearly achievable, or move on to another game, if you decide that it is a deal breaker for you.
Just stop with the whining about it already.
Then get yourself some!
Good lord...
Have fun playing by yourself very soon. Then we can watch all of the inconsiderate elitists that ruined their own game devour each other. Bring popcorn.
The attitudes of the "haves" is terrible. First they say you arent tough enough, then they say you cant handle the game, then they say.........You know what, never mind. If theres one thing Ive noticed its the "haves" thumbing their noses at the have nots, as if some how theyre superior. And Vesavius you see the irony in your comment "....stay for the people." The "haves" are the ones driving off the people.
Please enjoy your game, and leave the rest of the MMO world uninfected.
I was going to mention that actually.
"Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this."
I wonder if he noticed the irony since attitude of players like him is driving the people away from the game.
This is why sandboxes are destined to fail or either have a very small playerbase. People like him do not even realise the amount of damage they do the games they so aggressively defend.