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ESO Vs Final Fantasy 14
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I kinda liked both games and want to return back to one. I am not huge on story but more so character building, challenging group content, some Pvp, future longevity, mature community, etc.
A. Which one to play now?
B. Which one do you think has more future expansion/patch hype?
C. If you be hating , which do you suggest over these?
playing: Dragon Age
Waiting: for FF14, Mass Effect
Want to try: Fallen Earth
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Challenging group content, future longevity, community : FFXIV
Character building, PvP : ESO
Personally I'll pick FFXIV over ESO. Because it is a more polish and quality game than ESO. And by all the means FFXIV got much much more pve content than ESO. But If you're too into pvp than no. Go play ESO.
This is the perfect answer.. If pvp is most important, play eso. If anything else is more important, play FFXIV.
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You have done a very good summary :-)
I have not played ESO enough to build a solid opinion on it. I played beta and it did not catch me. It was good looking but I had at all times the feeling that It lacked of something.
I can tell you that FFXIV is a very good game in terms of PvE: has a solid base of nice players, a good company behind it, immersion in history while leveling and getting your main weapon, nice graphics. I stopped plating FFXIV because it became too grindy for me. It has one thing that I really need in any MMORPG: ability to change class with a click. It is a perfect game if you like to make alters to experience all the possibilities of the game because you do not need to make more than one single character. The crafting and AH are very good implemented, although you do not need to craft anything at all. The main things I can think as downsides to some people:
- Some eastern humour and feeling sometimes. It was new for me and I enjoyed it
- Almost all bosses follow a mechanic you must learn step by step. Mechanics are different from boss to boss. I liked that also.
- I do not know currently, but there was a patch which introduced that the only way to get the top tier weapon was to farm for a billion times like 20 type of different mobs. There were RNG drops with low ratio. At this point, I rage quitted the game.
Over these, I cannot think of any better themepark MMORPG with subscription. If you loved WoW, you can try SWTOR. It is almost the same (with the goods and the bads) but in an SW theme, better graphics, great solo leveling history (you can level as f2p) and some on rail airship combat.
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ESO does everything better than Final Fantasy
Never played Final Fantasy, is the questing fully voiced or do I have to read? I don't mind reading, I read a lot of lore books in ESO.
No voice in Final Fantasy at all. ESO almost every NPC has voice and uses facial animation tech.
I play ESO and I've never tried FFXIV, but I don't think really helps answer any questions.
There were a couple of good posts above that give the strong and weak points of both games. It seems that if you want to say something in favor of ESO, you should add some reasons why so people can understand why you think ESO is better.
It's a huge deal for me now in regard to PvE questing and immersion. Nothing worse for me now than mute NPC's. Swtor and ESO have raised the bar in regard to PvE Questing.
To OP: What sort of combat system are you after as the combat is different in both games?
What part of everything that you don't understand. Everything means everything from graphics, questing, dungeons, combat, character building. Like I said, ESO does everything better then Final Fantasy.
Not all of them fully voiced. Just the very important ones. But I can easily say that FFXIV got one of the best storylines out there. Most of the quests in FFXIV like Swtor's quests without voice overs. Like this..;
This is a side quest for unlock the aesthetician. I didn't share any story quests because of the spoilers. By the way this is one of my favorite quests of all time.. ^^
ESO is ok now to say the least, string of updates repaired some of the flaws it have during launch. I would wait for the next update (update 6 afaik), they have new features in it.
It's honestly tough to say.
When it comes to longevity they are equally risky, but should both be around for at least another 2 years.
As others have said the PvP and character customization is much better in ESO. There is also some challenging group content in the game, but it suffers a bit from the same problem GW2's dungeons have, where many of the mechanics feel more like BS than something you outplayed. So beating these encounters doesn't feel as rewarding as they do in FFXIV.
When it come to community this is also another toss-up. Depending on server, some of the servers are extremely toxic in FFXIV. Furthermore there are a lot of fanboys in the game that will flam people if they even suspect you're saying anything that isn't extremely positive about the game. Then again, on other servers the community is really good, people are friendly and mature, and not quite as elitist as you'd expect.
In ESO much of this is taken care of for you with megaservers. They match you up with people that are more similar to you, when you zone into instances. So, for the most part, if you don't socialize / group with asshats often, you will find they just magically dissappear for the most part.
They're both good games, and they both have significant issues (that likely won't go away). If you want a game that feels comfortable and fun, go FFXV. If you want more of a gamble and to play something a little different, go ESO.
tldr;
ESO = experiment (you won't a game that looks and plays differently)
FFXIV = comfort pick (you want a game that feels fairly familiar, but is new and fun)
What part of everything that you don't understand. Everything means everything from graphics, questing, dungeons, combat, character building. Like I said, ESO does everything better then Final Fantasy.
Yeah ESO's copy paste dungeons are better than FFXIV's dungeons. Let me know when I should laugh to this.
/facepalm...
Is it really that hard to be objective? ESO got some of the WORST dungeons out there.
In what way?
Challenge? Subjective.
Appearance? Subjective.
Layout? Subjective.
The dungeons in ESO are probably the most aesthetically pleasing I've seen.
Also, that picture contains only solo dungeons. Does FF have solo dungeons?
Show me the best challenge you will see in any dungeon in ESO please. I'm waiting. Than I'll post a video from FFXIV. Lets see is it subjective or not...
I'm being realistic here. I played Gw2 for 2 years without any break. Even than I didn't defend it with blind eyes. I can easily say that Gw2 got some of the worst dungeons out there too.(execept some of them) I can easily say that FFXIV got one of the worst pvp contents out there. I can easily say ESO's quest system is better than FFXIV. But dungeons? Really? You're not being honest here. By the way I played ESO 1,5 months. And now I'm playing FFXIV for 3 months. So I'm not talking without knowing anything.
Yeah, in terms of cut-scenes and dialog, ESO is pretty much 100% voice acted. Even NPCs you never speak to or interact with are voice acted. I don't know what the deal is with XIV in this area. Some are, some aren't. Important storyline cut-scenes will be voice acted, but then will switch back to just text... Very odd.
As for PvP, yes I agree with everyone else so far.. ESO for PvP hands down.
For PvE, honestly, I've played both MMOs now to a good degree, and while I enjoy both, I would actually give the PvE content to ESO in this case... for its internal consistency, for the story-telling, for the dialog and voice-acting, for the variety, etc.
In my opinion...
In both cases, you're not getting a "pure" experience from either franchise. ESO is as much a "true Elder Scrolls game" as FFXIV is a "true FF game". Each maintains a lot of the spirit of their respective IPs, while making concessions necessary to make it a MMO. Someone saying "FFXIV isn't a true FF game" would be as hypocritical as someone saying "ESO isn't a true TES game".
That said, though, while I enjoy each for what it is, I feel ESO comes much closer to its roots than FFXIV.
FFXIV is a fun game, and you can enjoy it quite a lot as long as depth, internal consistency, and a sense of weight to the content and story isn't important. Also, it's good if you if you don't mind a lot of hand-holding.
ESO is a fun and engrossing world, where the quests feel more relevant, the tone is more serious, there are no cultural references or -nod-winks- that I've been able to find, at all, and none of it feels like filler. Hand-holding is present, but can be adjusted in-game and, through an add-on for the game, can be disabled completely.
If you'd like opinions on any specific aspect, let me know. I omitted a lot of what I was going to say for the sake of brevity
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Final Fantasy does not even have real dungeons.
When have you been in a dungeon in Final Fantasy trying to kill a boss and cant but you find another person in the dungeon that helps you do it? Thats what mmos are all about.
Better graphics ESO
Better combat ESO
Better character Building ESO
Better World ESO
Better Questing ESO
Better PVP ESO
Justice System coming, Champion System coming, Spellcrafting coming, Skilling mobs and turning their skins into armor coming.
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My work is done here.
I am being honest. I just find the the traditional tab targeting combat system FF employs to not be as challenging. I find managing my stamina and magicka bars to be more challenging than managing cool downs and more fun. Which is subjective.
Everything you state is subjective.
Nope. I'm at fault here. I'm trying to argue with a troll. Yes your trolling work is done here. Congratulations! Now you can go back to your cave. Sometimes I forget that you can't discuss anything serious with a fanboy. Thanks for reminding me this. And thanks for writing one of the most idiotic posts I've ever seen in years.
@immodium; Now you're not even talking about dungeons and changed subject to the combat system. Really? Oh god...
C'mon, are you not engaged in combat in dungeons in FF? You are going to have to explain why FF dungeon mechanics in FF are "objectively" more challenging.
Just because you find them hard doesn't mean everyone else will.
Perhaps I'm missing some context here, but what about their response is trolling? That's an honest question, to me.
It does seem to point to something in ARR that I've not been very happy about... the lack of open world dungeons and caves, etc, each with their own set of baddies - which aren't part of a FATE or Hunt, but just exist as part of the world and may (or may not) be tied to a quest line, etc.
There is a difference between coming across a difficult enemy in a remote cave or something, and having a fellow player come along to assist you with it, and the more spammy "free for all" nature of FATEs and Hunts. In one case, you're being helped because the person is there and sees another player who could use a helping hand. In the other, a bunch of people are there because there's a reward in it for them personally.
I'm assuming that's what the question you were asked was getting at. If that's the case, then I can definitely relate to it, because that kind of experience is something that's missing in ARR for me as well.
I liked FFXIV but i couldn`t STAND the questing, literally you get quests that just involve you running to and from places constantly and the game is so heavily instanced it just annoys me to death. i got to lvl 31 on my pally and I couldnt do it anymore. if you already hate leveling, i wouldnt play FFXIV its a terrible process.
I`m sure it`s great once you get up there, I know there is tons of content.
ESO on the other hand has a much better leveling system and if you like PvP I would 100% go with ESO, they also have big patches lined up. and solid PvE contrary to what people think.
Both have their pros and cons but personally I`de play ESO over FFXIV
Its called being butt hurt from hearing the truth. Thanks you for giving a real reply to what I said. Open World Dungeons are one of the things I cant do without in a mmo.
These fellow players happen to be in a "remote cave" but not to kill the same enemy?