Other then wanting both a Horde and Alliance character on the same PvP server, what would be the need for another account?. You can create, I believe, 50 characters per account. All on the same server if you'd like.
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Originally posted by IcoGames Other then wanting both a Horde and Alliance character on the same PvP server, what would be the need for another account?. You can create, I believe, 50 characters per account. All on the same server if you'd like.
Ten on each server, adding up to 50 on all servers.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against. Bruce Lee
Thanks Dozer! I knew you could have 50 characters, but I wasn't aware of the per server limit. Lol, I think the most I've had on one server were 3 on Azgalor.
Ico Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Originally posted by Anofalye WoW prolly already lost 1 million customers since release...
Where is the advertising and the banners about losing 1 million customers?
I can see it now.
WORLD OF WARCRAFT: We have lost more subscribers than your stupid game ever had. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Originally posted by Ramonski7 What a lot of you fail to realize is that you're thinking a lot of casual/new gamers are going to think hitting 60 is the end. This is so far from the truth it hurts and very bias. Not everyone shares your mentality of 60=the end. Most people have entirely different agendas when playing for the first time and I'd say fighting in BG along with a few of their friends and guildmates was what they are looking for. Hell I was in one session of BG where it took damn near all day to finish, people kept coming and going and no side could get a good hold on the GYs. I must say I was shocked. It really felt like an epic battle. Some guys please get your heads out the sand and take a look around. WoW is still breaking numbers and it's the first NA game to do so. And that's a LOT to be proud of in a world that veiws my country in a negative way.
Yeah, but Ramonski7 - imagine the utter frustration of unhappy SWG and EQ2 players. They look over and see a game where the majority of people are having a hell of a lot of fun. SoE is probably wondering "where did we go wrong?".
I mean look at all the advantages/resources SoE had. EQ was a household name when it came to MMORPGs but yet despite the HUGE backing by Sony in terms of advertising, development, etc for EQ2 and SWG - you just can't polish a turd; you can't make icecream out of sh*t. I could honestly care less because I can pretty much guarantee that every time I log into WoW I'll have a lot of fun, as opposed to LFG for hours, pulling my hair out, wondering when the next big "revisioning" is coming, etc.
The sad thing is that until SoE's developers figure out how to develop a clue, they will have to be content to publish and maintaining mediocre games. Sad for their customers, it really is. It still blows my mind how you can take the Star Wars franchise and bungle it so horribly.
I was one of those people who got bored of EQ2 and tried WoW. Now I am just playing CoH as I got so utterly bored with both games. In fact I wanted to believe all the hype how WoW is the best game ever created, and found out its just another EQ-clone.
Just hoping D & D Online will bring some new life to the same old level grind boring fastasy-based MMORPGs that the original EQ started.
Rofl. What problems exactly? And by the way, ALL of these companyes (SoE, NCSoft, etc) have seperate departments that work on expansions, dungeons, artwork, quality control, etc. So basically, just because a company puts out an expansion or announces they are working on new things doesn't mean other aspects of the game are being neglected.
I'm aware there are various developers doing various things that you mention, but where is their work? They're terribly slow at patching the game, heck, they've probably had as many patches as they have localizations.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
Originally posted by IcoGames Other then wanting both a Horde and Alliance character on the same PvP server, what would be the need for another account?. You can create, I believe, 50 characters per account. All on the same server if you'd like.
Wrong. Max 10 per server, max 50 per account.
I'm still laughing at your Lineage 2 suggestion. If I wanted a badly designed PvP system I would have stuck with WoW, but then again at least L2 has balance.
Originally posted by D0ZeR I fail to see exactly what the point is you are making. As you can see Blizzard is counting the subs not the people. You really need to chill on that point alone. If you hate WOW I can deal with that. Heck I have some bad hate for Horizons and there CEO DB.
Whoah...... pull back on the reins dude. Where do I imply that I hate WoW?? I just pointed out that number of subscribers does not equal number of players. I don't hate WoW, I don't hate anything, hate is a negative emotion that only serves to bring hate unto yourself. I don't play, have never played, probably never will play WoW. Just pointed out a fact is all. I'm glad WoW is pulling in big numbers, as I am glad GW is pulling in big numbers. The mmorpg genre has been getting stale, and these are pumping up people for "The Next Big Thing" whatever it may be. It's too bad Blizzard is part of Vivendi, but life goes on eh??
Originally posted by D0ZeR I fail to see exactly what the point is you are making. As you can see Blizzard is counting the subs not the people. You really need to chill on that point alone. If you hate WOW I can deal with that. Heck I have some bad hate for Horizons and there CEO DB.
Whoah...... pull back on the reins dude. Where do I imply that I hate WoW?? I just pointed out that number of subscribers does not equal number of players. I don't hate WoW, I don't hate anything, hate is a negative emotion that only serves to bring hate unto yourself. I don't play, have never played, probably never will play WoW. Just pointed out a fact is all. I'm glad WoW is pulling in big numbers, as I am glad GW is pulling in big numbers. The mmorpg genre has been getting stale, and these are pumping up people for "The Next Big Thing" whatever it may be. It's too bad Blizzard is part of Vivendi, but life goes on eh??
For a guy that never played the game you sure seem to have some issues with Blizzard and Vivendi. But don't blame me you sure made a post like you do hate the game and seem to think the compainies are lying about the subs. If I took that the wrong way, oh well. But it sure seemed that way.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against. Bruce Lee
I dont believe WoW is losing ustomers as someone suggested. On the contrary, it seems that WoW is adding more servers for new players. If people doubt the actual number of subscribers, all you have to do is check the number of servers available. A game with small number of subscribers will have just a few servers. A game with lots of servers wil have many subscribers. Of course this will not work for games like Eve where they have one server for all players.
Judging from the amount of servers and from the fact that WoW is still adding even more, then perhaps it is realy true that WoW subscribers are rising in numbers, and not the other way around.
Originally posted by D0ZeR For a guy that never played the game you sure seem to have some issues with Blizzard and Vivendi. But don't blame me you sure made a post like you do hate the game and seem to think the compainies are lying about the subs. If I took that the wrong way, oh well. But it sure seemed that way.
yes, you read way to much between the lines that weren't there. Nothing against Blizzard, and Vivendi just cares about bottom line and dollars. A simple fact stated should not be taken as hate for a game...... your just too used to people bashing it and too defensive....
Originally posted by D0ZeR For a guy that never played the game you sure seem to have some issues with Blizzard and Vivendi. But don't blame me you sure made a post like you do hate the game and seem to think the compainies are lying about the subs. If I took that the wrong way, oh well. But it sure seemed that way.
yes, you read way to much between the lines that weren't there. Nothing against Blizzard, and Vivendi just cares about bottom line and dollars. A simple fact stated should not be taken as hate for a game...... your just too used to people bashing it and too defensive....
ROFL, so you say they are lying about the numbers and that isn't bashing.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against. Bruce Lee
Where in any of my posts did I say they were lying about the numbers?? All I said was the number of subscribers doesn't equal the number of players! I never challenged the fact that they have 2 million subscribers! I applauded them for having such high number in fact....good gravy......
For arguments sake I will say fine 2 million subs is not 2 million people. Problem I have is no where in that press release do they say 2 million people play they use the word subs. Maybe you can play with words but I do know how I took what you said. No reading between lines necessary.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against. Bruce Lee
Originally posted by IcoGames Other then wanting both a Horde and Alliance character on the same PvP server, what would be the need for another account?. You can create, I believe, 50 characters per account. All on the same server if you'd like.
Wrong. Max 10 per server, max 50 per account.
I'm still laughing at your Lineage 2 suggestion. If I wanted a badly designed PvP system I would have stuck with WoW, but then again at least L2 has balance.
Lol, thanks Mr. Helper. You're only about 2.5 hrs late from the first reply.
Really though, you're some kind of bitter ass. I honestly give you a suggestion and you throw it back like that. Nice job kid.
Ico Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Originally posted by IcoGames Originally posted by firemagic Originally posted by IcoGames Other then wanting both a Horde and Alliance character on the same PvP server, what would be the need for another account?. You can create, I believe, 50 characters per account. All on the same server if you'd like.
Wrong. Max 10 per server, max 50 per account.
I'm still laughing at your Lineage 2 suggestion. If I wanted a badly designed PvP system I would have stuck with WoW, but then again at least L2 has balance.
Lol, thanks Mr. Helper. You're only about 2.5 hrs late from the first reply.
Really though, you're some kind of bitter ass. I honestly give you a suggestion and you throw it back like that. Nice job kid.
I'm sorry for upsetting you. It sounds like you're really cut up.
I hope you don't really expect me to believe your Lineage 2 suggestion was anything but a joke. If it really wasn't a joke, I stand by my response - if I wanted a sloppily designed PvP system I would have stuck with WoW. What's bitter about that? I'm being honest.
And I don't really see what 2.5 hours has to do with anything on a message forum.
Holy crap, they are raking in the dough. That's what happens when you cater to a wide audience, gamers vote with their dollars. Not the best game ever, but might be widest appeal ever. And it IS an amazing game
Lol, I guess you missed Dozer's response directly beneath my post. I've read enough of your replies to know the tone you meant. It's ok if what to back down now though.
Ico Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Originally posted by IcoGames Lol, I guess you missed Dozer's response directly beneath my post. I've read enough of your replies to know the tone you meant. It's ok if what to back down now though.
Yeah I guess I missed it. Obviously a big deal to you, but trivial to me. Funny you should go berzerk and start throwing insults over nothing.
And yes, I agree there was a huge degree of sarcasm in my post, but I was also being honest. If you were genuinely recommending Lineage 2 for anything other than a convenient doorstop and coaster, then your opinions can and will be disregarded as worthless from hereon in.
Originally posted by IcoGames Lol, nice attitude. For someone that tries to give thoughtful researched responses, looks like you got too excited in an attempt to shoot me down that you missed the post directly beneath it. Firemagic, you seem like a very bitter person. Start drinking or something, lol.
How was I "shooting you down"? I saw your mistake and corrected it. So I missed that someone had already replied. I don't see what the big deal is. Why have you decided to use this opportunity to insult me? Are you aware that insults are frowned upon on this forum?
Please explain in great detail what makes this trivial issue such a big deal that you just can't let it go? You seem to have some kind of deep-seated grudge that perhaps only continued therapy might alleviate.
Originally posted by IcoGames Lol, forget it. I'm not going to down to your level. Cheers Firemagic, have a good one.
LOL. Good edit. You might want to think before posting bitter kneejerk reactions in future.
Originally posted by IcoGames Lol, unlike you I have the willingness and maturity to correct such 'bitter' statements. Eitherway Firemagic, seriously have a good one.
Read my posts again, but this time actually try to understand the words I wasted my time typing. There was nothing "bitter" about my reply to you, except for that which you mistakenly perceived.
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Other then wanting both a Horde and Alliance character on the same PvP server, what would be the need for another account?. You can create, I believe, 50 characters per account. All on the same server if you'd like.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
WoW prolly already lost 1 million customers since release...
Where is the advertising and the banners about losing 1 million customers?
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Thanks Dozer! I knew you could have 50 characters, but I wasn't aware of the per server limit. Lol, I think the most I've had on one server were 3 on Azgalor.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
I can see it now.
WORLD OF WARCRAFT: We have lost more subscribers than your stupid game ever had. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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but but ... WoW has it's very one WMP 10 skin!!
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Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Yeah, but Ramonski7 - imagine the utter frustration of unhappy SWG and EQ2 players. They look over and see a game where the majority of people are having a hell of a lot of fun. SoE is probably wondering "where did we go wrong?".
I mean look at all the advantages/resources SoE had. EQ was a household name when it came to MMORPGs but yet despite the HUGE backing by Sony in terms of advertising, development, etc for EQ2 and SWG - you just can't polish a turd; you can't make icecream out of sh*t. I could honestly care less because I can pretty much guarantee that every time I log into WoW I'll have a lot of fun, as opposed to LFG for hours, pulling my hair out, wondering when the next big "revisioning" is coming, etc.
The sad thing is that until SoE's developers figure out how to develop a clue, they will have to be content to publish and maintaining mediocre games. Sad for their customers, it really is. It still blows my mind how you can take the Star Wars franchise and bungle it so horribly.
I was one of those people who got bored of EQ2 and tried WoW. Now I am just playing CoH as I got so utterly bored with both games. In fact I wanted to believe all the hype how WoW is the best game ever created, and found out its just another EQ-clone.
Just hoping D & D Online will bring some new life to the same old level grind boring fastasy-based MMORPGs that the original EQ started.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
Wrong. Max 10 per server, max 50 per account.
I'm still laughing at your Lineage 2 suggestion. If I wanted a badly designed PvP system I would have stuck with WoW, but then again at least L2 has balance.
Whoah...... pull back on the reins dude. Where do I imply that I hate WoW?? I just pointed out that number of subscribers does not equal number of players. I don't hate WoW, I don't hate anything, hate is a negative emotion that only serves to bring hate unto yourself. I don't play, have never played, probably never will play WoW. Just pointed out a fact is all. I'm glad WoW is pulling in big numbers, as I am glad GW is pulling in big numbers. The mmorpg genre has been getting stale, and these are pumping up people for "The Next Big Thing" whatever it may be. It's too bad Blizzard is part of Vivendi, but life goes on eh??
Whoah...... pull back on the reins dude. Where do I imply that I hate WoW?? I just pointed out that number of subscribers does not equal number of players. I don't hate WoW, I don't hate anything, hate is a negative emotion that only serves to bring hate unto yourself. I don't play, have never played, probably never will play WoW. Just pointed out a fact is all. I'm glad WoW is pulling in big numbers, as I am glad GW is pulling in big numbers. The mmorpg genre has been getting stale, and these are pumping up people for "The Next Big Thing" whatever it may be. It's too bad Blizzard is part of Vivendi, but life goes on eh??
For a guy that never played the game you sure seem to have some issues with Blizzard and Vivendi. But don't blame me you sure made a post like you do hate the game and seem to think the compainies are lying about the subs. If I took that the wrong way, oh well. But it sure seemed that way.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
I dont believe WoW is losing ustomers as someone suggested. On the contrary, it seems that WoW is adding more servers for new players. If people doubt the actual number of subscribers, all you have to do is check the number of servers available. A game with small number of subscribers will have just a few servers. A game with lots of servers wil have many subscribers. Of course this will not work for games like Eve where they have one server for all players.
Judging from the amount of servers and from the fact that WoW is still adding even more, then perhaps it is realy true that WoW subscribers are rising in numbers, and not the other way around.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
yes, you read way to much between the lines that weren't there. Nothing against Blizzard, and Vivendi just cares about bottom line and dollars. A simple fact stated should not be taken as hate for a game...... your just too used to people bashing it and too defensive....
yes, you read way to much between the lines that weren't there. Nothing against Blizzard, and Vivendi just cares about bottom line and dollars. A simple fact stated should not be taken as hate for a game...... your just too used to people bashing it and too defensive....
ROFL, so you say they are lying about the numbers and that isn't bashing.
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Where in any of my posts did I say they were lying about the numbers?? All I said was the number of subscribers doesn't equal the number of players! I never challenged the fact that they have 2 million subscribers! I applauded them for having such high number in fact....good gravy......
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Bruce Lee
Lol, thanks Mr. Helper. You're only about 2.5 hrs late from the first reply.
Really though, you're some kind of bitter ass. I honestly give you a suggestion and you throw it back like that. Nice job kid.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Wrong. Max 10 per server, max 50 per account.
I'm still laughing at your Lineage 2 suggestion. If I wanted a badly designed PvP system I would have stuck with WoW, but then again at least L2 has balance.
Lol, thanks Mr. Helper. You're only about 2.5 hrs late from the first reply.
Really though, you're some kind of bitter ass. I honestly give you a suggestion and you throw it back like that. Nice job kid.
I'm sorry for upsetting you. It sounds like you're really cut up.
I hope you don't really expect me to believe your Lineage 2 suggestion was anything but a joke. If it really wasn't a joke, I stand by my response - if I wanted a sloppily designed PvP system I would have stuck with WoW. What's bitter about that? I'm being honest.
And I don't really see what 2.5 hours has to do with anything on a message forum.
Again, I'm sorry for making you cry.
Gratz Blizzard!
Holy crap, they are raking in the dough. That's what happens when you cater to a wide audience, gamers vote with their dollars. Not the best game ever, but might be widest appeal ever. And it IS an amazing game
Let the nerfing begin!
Lol, I guess you missed Dozer's response directly beneath my post.
I've read enough of your replies to know the tone you meant. It's ok if what to back down now though.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Yeah I guess I missed it. Obviously a big deal to you, but trivial to me. Funny you should go berzerk and start throwing insults over nothing.
And yes, I agree there was a huge degree of sarcasm in my post, but I was also being honest. If you were genuinely recommending Lineage 2 for anything other than a convenient doorstop and coaster, then your opinions can and will be disregarded as worthless from hereon in.
Lol, forget it. I'm not going to down to your level. Cheers Firemagic, have a good one.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
How was I "shooting you down"? I saw your mistake and corrected it. So I missed that someone had already replied. I don't see what the big deal is. Why have you decided to use this opportunity to insult me? Are you aware that insults are frowned upon on this forum?
Please explain in great detail what makes this trivial issue such a big deal that you just can't let it go? You seem to have some kind of deep-seated grudge that perhaps only continued therapy might alleviate.
LOL. Good edit. You might want to think before posting bitter kneejerk reactions in future.
Lol, unlike you I have the willingness and maturity to correct such 'bitter' statements. Eitherway Firemagic, seriously have a good one.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Read my posts again, but this time actually try to understand the words I wasted my time typing. There was nothing "bitter" about my reply to you, except for that which you mistakenly perceived.
Please accept my apologies for your error.