So it appears the FTC has no active investigations going against RSI or CIG. Some one on reddit actually wrote them looking to get information on the investigation (which anyone can do) and they mailed the redditor back with no records of any investigation being underway.
I I have just seen too many space games like "Free Lancer" and Elite Dangerous + EVE Online which bring nothing really different to the game.
Sorry have i read this wrong, your saying that EvE bought nothing new to the MMO market?
so the game that broke the mold with single server for the 'world' (barring china and their original laws regarding non chinese software), the game that still exists 12+ years after creation and yet is a full loot which if you read most of the drivel on this forum people dont like and every game will fail which is full loot.
How about the first game to have a players 'group' who represent the players at meetings, or direct input into the future of the game (how much input is up to debate but they have vetoed some ideas ccp had)
The whole idea of using ingame credits that can be used for adding game time to the account, heck it has taken even teh behemoth of blizzard 8years to pick up on that idea.
The most succesful space mmo that has existed... and widely accepted as a ground breaking mmo nb this is a list of awards from third party / neutral sites that ccp have won for eve
Sorry it was the comment about eve not bringing anything to game then saying that SC will (which im not debating no matter my personal feelings on the game)
So it appears the FTC has no active investigations going against RSI or CIG. Some one on reddit actually wrote them looking to get information on the investigation (which anyone can do) and they mailed the redditor back with no records of any investigation being underway.
How can anyone support this sociopath after saying things like this "Even if you were wheelchair bound, I wouldn't care because mental or
physical ailments don't change the people we are inside. People are
broken."
One, that is a complete and utter lie no psychologist would say was correct and two, that shit is just a dick move that proves him to be a borderline sociopath not deserving of even a shred of credibility.
People should also report this post, seeing as it is placing slanderous attacks against an individual, which goes against their TOS.
How can anyone support this sociopath after saying things like this "Even if you were wheelchair bound, I wouldn't care because mental or
physical ailments don't change the people we are inside. People are
broken."
One, that is a complete and utter lie no psychologist would say was correct and two, that shit is just a dick move that proves him to be a borderline sociopath not deserving of even a shred of credibility.
People should also report this post, seeing as it is placing slanderous attacks against an individual, which goes against their TOS.
Really dude? You take one tiny quote from that link and post it in an out of context manner to somehow completely discredit any claims and such made by him?
Homefully a more serious person, unlink yourself, will take your link and read the whole thing.
So it appears the FTC has no active investigations going against RSI or CIG. Some one on reddit actually wrote them looking to get information on the investigation (which anyone can do) and they mailed the redditor back with no records of any investigation being underway.
Well I can't say I'm surprised that the man who's made up 2? PhD's would make up an FTC investigation.
Ugh! Nope! That answer does not mean what you think that it means...
Actually under Exemption 7 clause of the FOIA the only reason the investigation would not be revealed is if there is credible evidence that revealing an investigation would interfere with said investigation.
Little problem there being that this whole thing has been broadcasted all over the internet.
Also, if for any reason information is denied the FTC would have to state the reason for denial in the response to allow for appeals.
So it appears the FTC has no active investigations going against RSI or CIG. Some one on reddit actually wrote them looking to get information on the investigation (which anyone can do) and they mailed the redditor back with no records of any investigation being underway.
Well I can't say I'm surprised that the man who's made up 2? PhD's would make up an FTC investigation.
Ugh! Nope! That answer does not mean what you think that it means...
Actually under Exemption 7 clause of the FOIA the only reason the investigation would not be revealed is if there is credible evidence that revealing an investigation would interfere with said investigation.
Little problem there being that this whole thing has been broadcasted all over the internet.
Also, if for any reason information is denied the FTC would have to state the reason for denial in the response to allow for appeals.
I wouldn't take anything derek smart says seriously... He made some shitty mobile game (I assume it was mobile... because it looked like it), ported it to pc, received fairly negative reviews and started deleting and banning people from what I recall. He's full of crap. The guy can't take any criticism and I'd be shocked if he somehow manages to make a game that's even average at best. I think the game in question was line of defense tactics or something? It was a clunky piece of garbage and he couldn't accept that fact.
I don't like what they're doing with Star Citizen so don't think I'm just some fanboy bashing derek because of that. I actually despise what's going on with the campaign for SC and kind of hope it crashes and burns at this point just so it makes a very clear statement that it doesn't matter how much money a crowdfunding campaign gets if it's going to the wrong people. I don't know the details, I don't keep up with a lot of news regarding SC, but something is very wrong with their management and/or development team. This is obviously just my opinion and assumption based on what I've heard and seen from the project, something everyone has easy access to.
So it appears the FTC has no active investigations going against RSI or CIG. Some one on reddit actually wrote them looking to get information on the investigation (which anyone can do) and they mailed the redditor back with no records of any investigation being underway.
i mean. you are giving the man what he wants, attention. didn't you ever hear the line "let him cry, he will settle down"?
that's how it works on kids, that's how it will work on mr smart
Not really, people that have never heard of DS now know him, and know him to be a bad dev that produces pure crap for his entire career. So while some people say "Any publicity is good publicity" its just not true in the gaming industry.
He may want the attention, But I am sure he didnt want an entire new generation of gamers to see his entire career of failures and his blatant childish behavior. Not that the man had any chance of becoming big anyway with his obvious lack of skill to produce games, but now he has no hope of ever recovering from this in his lifetime.
DS ended his own career with this flame war and the industry is better off for it.
i mean. you are giving the man what he wants, attention. didn't you ever hear the line "let him cry, he will settle down"?
that's how it works on kids, that's how it will work on mr smart
Not really, people that have never heard of DS now know him, and know him to be a bad dev that produces pure crap for his entire career. So while some people say "Any publicity is good publicity" its just not true in the gaming industry.
He may want the attention, But I am sure he didnt want an entire new generation of gamers to see his entire career of failures and his blatant childish behavior. Not that the man had any chance of becoming big anyway with his obvious lack of skill to produce games, but now he has no hope of ever recovering from this in his lifetime.
DS ended his own career with this flame war and the industry is better off for it.
Something tells me that DS really doesn't care what most people think of him especially if it's someone on the net.
Not really, people that have never heard of DS now know him, and know him to be a bad dev that produces pure crap for his entire career. So while some people say "Any publicity is good publicity" its just not true in the gaming industry.
He may want the attention, But I am sure he didnt want an entire new generation of gamers to see his entire career of failures and his blatant childish behavior. Not that the man had any chance of becoming big anyway with his obvious lack of skill to produce games, but now he has no hope of ever recovering from this in his lifetime.
DS ended his own career with this flame war and the industry is better off for it.
Something tells me that DS really doesn't care what most people think of him especially if it's someone on the net.
Thats the same as saying he doesnt care about his career. Though honestly with the sheer amount of crap games this guy has put out you may be right.
Either way, he isnt going to get anything out of RSI. Roberts is an industry vet and knows better than to embezzle and misuse funds as DS claims.
My point remains the same, DS has destroyed what pitiful little shred of his credibility he has left with this obvious slanderous harassment and will never be able to make a dime in it ever again. If he does try, I am sure there are countless people just waiting to troll him legally the same way he is trolling RSI.
He will never get crowd funding, publishers wont touch him and investors will laugh in his sad little face.
Here is the full length official response of CIG to DS - not the heavily edited excerpt that DS posted.
Highlights: * Never downloaded game * Never played game * false address and other more juicy bits.
Have fun
PS: Letter was not published by CIG themselves.
Boring.
Have no fun.
Hmmm, seems like you've got something in common with Derek Smart, that being that you obviously didn't download or read the document cited in the post you're quoting.
There's actually plenty of fun to be had with this. I think that the hilarity is actually in full swing. Of course it's a subjective piece, but if you had any interest in the subject, then I think you'd be hard-pressed to find it boring. If you have absolutely no interest in the subject then I question why the hell you'd even comment.It would be like me posting on a hair style forum, since I have no hair and no interest in hard whatsoever.
LOL what I get out of that letter is DS is a complete loon. Really nothing DS says can be taken as truth and I think he needs to go to a doctor and get some meds for what ever aliment he has in that head of his.
Sadly, no matter how this turns out Derek will consider himself the hero. If SC launches and it is as good as they promised then it will be because of his efforts. If it tanks then he was right all along. My guess is he suffers from Machiavellianism. How he can justify giving an incorrect street address for his refund by lying and saying they changed his street name just shows the lengths he will go through to manipulate this situation and justify his participation.
"Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game." - SEANMCAD
Sadly, no matter how this turns out Derek will consider himself the hero. If SC launches and it is as good as they promised then it will be because of his efforts. If it tanks then he was right all along. My guess is he suffers from Machiavellianism. How he can justify giving an incorrect street address for his refund by lying and saying they changed his street name just shows the lengths he will go through to manipulate this situation and justify his participation.
I was just thinking same thing, was even going to make a similar post about. Because I honestly think that is his goal. In his eyes it is win/win for him.
In War - Victory. In Peace - Vigilance. In Death - Sacrifice.
LOL what I get out of that letter is DS is a complete loon. Really nothing DS says can be taken as truth and I think he needs to go to a doctor and get some meds for what ever aliment he has in that head of his.
No he's crazy like a fox. Best way I can describe the guy is as something akin to a patent troll.
Ummmmmmm, yeah!!! Talk to David Allen (former CEO of Quest Online LLC) who Derek Smart artfully removed from his position, and then his own company. This is how Derek gets things. He weasels his way in and then just plays "the game" to take what he wants, rather than actually expending the effort to actually create something great himself.
My only problem with Derek is the following, IF PEOPLE WANT TO THROW THEIR MONEY AT THIS GAME WHAT IS UP TO YOU? The fools will spend their money however they want, you are smart you got your money back be grateful. If people want to get scammed let them be. After the fact when everything is proof to be what you said then you can gloat all you want. Give it a rest you made your point let time prove you right or wrong.
Sadly, no matter how this turns out Derek will consider himself the hero. If SC launches and it is as good as they promised then it will be because of his efforts. If it tanks then he was right all along. My guess is he suffers from Machiavellianism. How he can justify giving an incorrect street address for his refund by lying and saying they changed his street name just shows the lengths he will go through to manipulate this situation and justify his participation.
Derek Smart should return that company he stole. Where is he getting the money for all this supposed legal action? It's obviously misappropriated funds from these other games he has botched. It takes some kind of gall to commit these acts and then accuse other people of what he himself is doing.
Lesson is if you want to keep your game intact and the company you founded in your own hands, never, ever let Derek Smart near you.
PS Don't worry about hurting this personality disordered individual's feelings; people with Derek Smart's issues do not have any real feelings to speak of. They are just ravenous appetites hiding behind false blustery egos. They should be expelled from any organization they weasel into, because they are parasites who talk a lot to hide what they are doing while siphoning off all the resources to attack their next target. They can't help when they are, they were born that way.
Comments
http://imgur.com/xAiNAar
Reddit post here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/3lj51p/unlike_some_people_i_deliver_when_proof_is/
Well I can't say I'm surprised that the man who's made up 2? PhD's would make up an FTC investigation.
so the game that broke the mold with single server for the 'world' (barring china and their original laws regarding non chinese software), the game that still exists 12+ years after creation and yet is a full loot which if you read most of the drivel on this forum people dont like and every game will fail which is full loot.
How about the first game to have a players 'group' who represent the players at meetings, or direct input into the future of the game (how much input is up to debate but they have vetoed some ideas ccp had)
The whole idea of using ingame credits that can be used for adding game time to the account, heck it has taken even teh behemoth of blizzard 8years to pick up on that idea.
The most succesful space mmo that has existed... and widely accepted as a ground breaking mmo nb this is a list of awards from third party / neutral sites that ccp have won for eve
http://community.eveonline.com/news/awards-and-accolades/
Sorry it was the comment about eve not bringing anything to game then saying that SC will (which im not debating no matter my personal feelings on the game)
This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game
where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
Use this code for 21days trial in eve online https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=d385aff2-794a-44a4-96f1-3967ccf6d720&action=buddy
One, that is a complete and utter lie no psychologist would say was correct and two, that shit is just a dick move that proves him to be a borderline sociopath not deserving of even a shred of credibility.
People should also report this post, seeing as it is placing slanderous attacks against an individual, which goes against their TOS.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sng9jg
Homefully a more serious person, unlink yourself, will take your link and read the whole thing.
Little problem there being that this whole thing has been broadcasted all over the internet.
Also, if for any reason information is denied the FTC would have to state the reason for denial in the response to allow for appeals.
Source: https://epic.org/open_gov/citizens_guide_97.html
Sections: G. FOIA exclusions....................................... 19
H. Administrative appeal procedures...................... 20
In plain English right there.
I don't like what they're doing with Star Citizen so don't think I'm just some fanboy bashing derek because of that. I actually despise what's going on with the campaign for SC and kind of hope it crashes and burns at this point just so it makes a very clear statement that it doesn't matter how much money a crowdfunding campaign gets if it's going to the wrong people. I don't know the details, I don't keep up with a lot of news regarding SC, but something is very wrong with their management and/or development team. This is obviously just my opinion and assumption based on what I've heard and seen from the project, something everyone has easy access to.
i mean. you are giving the man what he wants, attention.
didn't you ever hear the line "let him cry, he will settle down"?
that's how it works on kids, that's how it will work on mr smart
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
He may want the attention, But I am sure he didnt want an entire new generation of gamers to see his entire career of failures and his blatant childish behavior. Not that the man had any chance of becoming big anyway with his obvious lack of skill to produce games, but now he has no hope of ever recovering from this in his lifetime.
DS ended his own career with this flame war and the industry is better off for it.
Either way, he isnt going to get anything out of RSI. Roberts is an industry vet and knows better than to embezzle and misuse funds as DS claims.
My point remains the same, DS has destroyed what pitiful little shred of his credibility he has left with this obvious slanderous harassment and will never be able to make a dime in it ever again. If he does try, I am sure there are countless people just waiting to troll him legally the same way he is trolling RSI.
He will never get crowd funding, publishers wont touch him and investors will laugh in his sad little face.
Grade A Popcorn drama material.
Here is the full length official response of CIG to DS - not the heavily edited excerpt that DS posted.
Highlights:
* Never downloaded game
* Never played game
* false address
and other more juicy bits.
Have fun
PS: Letter was not published by CIG themselves.
PPS: DS Twitter response :
"I am in process of hiring an independent firm to investigate this project, thus taking myself out of the equation."
"To all the media (!) creating click-bait headlines from the legal letter from RSI/CIG which I made public. Was expected. Time will tell."
--> seems he does not fancy all the recent articles about it ... i recommend reading some of them for comic relief
"I am a semi-retired gaming dude with free time. When RSI made this personal, I was as gleeful as a cheerleader on acid"
--> Semi retired ?? What about Line of Defense ? Ahh ... THAT is why it never gets finished.
"Suddenly I was infused with glorious purpose. They never saw it coming. And they completely underestimated my industry reach."
--> Delusions of grandeur ?!
Have no fun.
Hmmm, seems like you've got something in common with Derek Smart, that being that you obviously didn't download or read the document cited in the post you're quoting.
There's actually plenty of fun to be had with this. I think that the hilarity is actually in full swing. Of course it's a subjective piece, but if you had any interest in the subject, then I think you'd be hard-pressed to find it boring. If you have absolutely no interest in the subject then I question why the hell you'd even comment.It would be like me posting on a hair style forum, since I have no hair and no interest in hard whatsoever.
Just sayin'
Crazkanuk
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Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
Ummmmmmm, yeah!!! Talk to David Allen (former CEO of Quest Online LLC) who Derek Smart artfully removed from his position, and then his own company. This is how Derek gets things. He weasels his way in and then just plays "the game" to take what he wants, rather than actually expending the effort to actually create something great himself.
Crazkanuk
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"Machiavellianism is one of the three personality traits referred to as the dark triad, along with narcissism and psychopathy. "
That sounds about right.
And yes ... whatever the outcome .. DS will ALWAYS consider himself the victor. He is simply incapable of any other train of thought.
Have fun
Lesson is if you want to keep your game intact and the company you founded in your own hands, never, ever let Derek Smart near you.
PS Don't worry about hurting this personality disordered individual's feelings; people with Derek Smart's issues do not have any real feelings to speak of. They are just ravenous appetites hiding behind false blustery egos. They should be expelled from any organization they weasel into, because they are parasites who talk a lot to hide what they are doing while siphoning off all the resources to attack their next target. They can't help when they are, they were born that way.