Hopefully the Citizen Con presentations will shut up Derek Smart and all the naysayers for a while. SC is coming along just fine and today's demo was nothing short of awe inspiring.
Err,no
The vile little scrot went on the offensive on Twitter as Sandi was turning into an emotional wreck on stage as this as clearly affected her, hope he is proud of himself now !!
Hilarious, that was a good one... oh wait you are serious, you also backed The Repopulation! RUN EVERYONE!
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
Err,no
The vile little scrot went on the offensive on Twitter as Sandi was
turning into an emotional wreck on stage as this as clearly affected
her, hope he is proud of himself now !!
When an anti-social like Derek Smart targets someone, they want to isolate them socially so they break down and give in. When someone shows emotion and others respond with support it sends the Derek Smarts of the world into a frenzy because they see their prey getting away.
Hopefully Chris and Sandi aren't too shaken up by this campaign of Derek Smarts. It can be quite harrowing to be the target of such a monster, and people who have never experienced it are always shocked and freaked out when it happens to them.
They feel alone and scared because of the buttons being pushed and the feeling that nobody would believe them when they tell the truth about the person that has targeted them. And all too often, they are right. Most people see the unsettled nature of the victim and start to think something is wrong with them. This aids the anti-social in his or her efforts to socially isolate the victim. It's a vicious cycle.
It's a good thing Sandi and Chris have a large, enthusiastic community of over one million people behind them. They should be back in top form after this, and continue making a great game.
Well @user547 I thought Chris and Sandi looked nervous thru majority of it. So I can see where that came from. But I thought more about it and yes they both have a lot on their shoulders so being nervous would be expected. I do believe without a doubt CR wants a great game, heck he wants a game that has never been done before. If he pulls it off I will be the first to say he is a GOD when it comes to space sims. Maybe that is why I ask so many negative questions and statements. I will try and stop doing that and have a more open mind.
I do wish you guys would just get off the DS stuff, he isn't going to go away so why even deal with him, stop bring him up and sooner or later he will be forgotten. Every time you guys bring him up you make people go look at what he said or is going to say.
Well @user547 I thought Chris and Sandi looked nervous thru majority of it. So I can see where that came from. But I thought more about it and yes they both have a lot on their shoulders so being nervous would be expected. I do believe without a doubt CR wants a great game, heck he wants a game that has never been done before. If he pulls it off I will be the first to say he is a GOD when it comes to space sims. Maybe that is why I ask so many negative questions and statements. I will try and stop doing that and have a more open mind.
I do wish you guys would just get off the DS stuff, he isn't going to go away so why even deal with him, stop bring him up and sooner or later he will be forgotten. Every time you guys bring him up you make people go look at what he said or is going to say.
But he is the only thing they have to hate on. Like every religion or cult they need a Devil and Derek Smart is perfect for that. Soon children will be told that if they do not behave Derek Smart will come and tell them how to make a real space game with lasers and stuff.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
He is going away though. With a good discreditation this time around he will lose his ability to fool people and be a ringleader. Broad, repeated exposure of his behavior is necessary to inoculate people against any more of his shenanigans. He is finished as of today, and it doesn't hurt to keep pounding it into people's heads that the filth cast towards Sandi and Chris came from that individual. If you repeat allegations that came from him, you are working for him knowingly or not, end of story.
If you take up Derek Smart's message, you will always be associated with
his failure to smear good people and destroy something that is
important to over 1 million fans and interested parties. He owns this
defamatory campaign now, and anyone who takes up his cause from now on
is signing on to his ticket. You don't get to have a choice about that
and pretend to be above it all with superior, altruistic motives.
As far as the strange hatred some people have for a video game that hasn't been made yet, that is their own weird issue. How many of these people tried to get in on some grey market with RMT and got burned when new ships and packages appeared? There really isn't any rational reason for the hatred beyond that and Derek Smart. Or, you have to admit you are working in the industry and are unnecessarily worried about some new funding model because of vague threats to your job. But nobody is going to admit that.
During today's CitizenCon, Chris Roberts and the Star Citizen team unveiled the all-star cast of Squadron 42, the single player portion of the game. Fans will recognize such luminaries as Gary Oldman, Gillian Anderson, Mark Hamill and John Rhys-Davies.
Awesome news! Can I buy all their voices as a bundle or are they being sold separately?
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
What is the difference whether the money comes from a kickstarter or from a loan.
Is this a serious question asked by an actual person? I mean... just... wow.
Well, from the "money is all gone" perspective he is not entirely wrong.
However, since CIG is not using "borrowed" money, it could borrow against the "value" of the company to raise more capital.
But, the KS might actually "hurt" at that point because one of the selling points either to an investor or institutional financier would be "future sales/profitability". Because the KS already "pre-sold" $90 mil in game clients and virtual assets, it will not be selling/profiting from those after launch, which would be a key factor in getting that loan/investment.
So, loaned money has its downside (interest) and KS'd money has its downside (many fewer copies sold for "profit" after launch).
So it is basically pick your poison as far as the source of the money is concerned, but at this point IF CIG/SC is running low on cash, it only really has two options to raise future pre-launch revenue: it can try to sell more ships (which it has been doing) or it can try to get a loan/investment while being hampered by low projected initial revenue (which is a huge negative to an investor), by virtue of the all the crowdfunded/KS pre-sold stuff.
Either way, if the cash is running short, it is not a good place to be.
If this was a game being released by Blizzard or something you kids would be raving about the presentation. It is not RSI that may destroy crowd funding for everyone, its you people.
If this was a game being released by Blizzard or something you kids would be raving about the presentation. It is not RSI that may destroy crowd funding for everyone, its you people.
I agree. No one´s destroying anything and certainly not crowdfunding.
Doom and gloomers and their paranoia about something something will destroy something something if something something happens. One of the "end is coming" cardboard waving justice warriors should for once point out a single case in gaming history where that actually happened.
If this was a game being released by Blizzard or something you kids would be raving about the presentation. It is not RSI that may destroy crowd funding for everyone, its you people.
I agree. No one´s destroying anything and certainly not crowdfunding.
Doom and gloomers and their paranoia about something something will destroy something something if something something happens. One of the "end is coming" cardboard waving justice warriors should for once point out a single case in gaming history where that actually happened.
Dark and Light maybe?
Yeah, and only god knows how many millions Blizzard used on project Titan before realising that even the best ideas on paper might just turn out bad when implemented. Luckily for Blizzard they could just scrap the project. Same thing for CCP with World of Darkness.
Doom & Gloom always have a chance for being correct for projects, even with good teams behind them.
Goes to show how little the 4-5 haters know. Now the newest "thing" is to complain about getting a celebrity cast, when the stretch goal has been met already in Nov 2012 in the orginal campaign. Pffff.. just noise.
First off Blizzard never had to advertise like other games. They were a company before release of WoW that had a rep never to release till the game was ready.
Granted when WoW released it had a lot of problems but most of those were due to how many players were trying to play it.
If this was a game being released by Blizzard or something you kids would be raving about the presentation. It is not RSI that may destroy crowd funding for everyone, its you people.
I agree. No one´s destroying anything and certainly not crowdfunding.
Doom and gloomers and their paranoia about something something will destroy something something if something something happens. One of the "end is coming" cardboard waving justice warriors should for once point out a single case in gaming history where that actually happened.
Dark and Light maybe?
Yeah, and only god knows how many millions Blizzard used on project Titan before realising that even the best ideas on paper might just turn out bad when implemented. Luckily for Blizzard they could just scrap the project. Same thing for CCP with World of Darkness.
Doom & Gloom always have a chance for being correct for projects, even with good teams behind them.
To be fair, Titan was done. Take a look at some of the commentary surrounding it. They were literally playing it. The comments from the internal staff is that it just wasn't that fun. So, yes, it was costly, but Titan itself was made. It was sacrificed to uphold the sanctity of Blizzard's reputation. World of Darkness, I have less insight on. I thought it wasn't as far along as titan, though.
Goes to show how little the 4-5 haters know. Now the newest "thing" is to complain about getting a celebrity cast, when the stretch goal has been met already in Nov 2012 in the orginal campaign. Pffff.. just noise.
Have to agree here, if they didn't get the celebs they'd be giving them crap for failing to meet pledge goals.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
These aren't big time celebs either. They can't be that expensive. If Ultimate Spider Man can afford Hamill, a game with a $90 million budget can afford him.
I do have a lot of respect for Gillian Anderson, so hopefully they're getting a good deal on her.
Goes to show how little the 4-5 haters know. Now the newest "thing" is to complain about getting a celebrity cast, when the stretch goal has been met already in Nov 2012 in the orginal campaign. Pffff.. just noise.
Have to agree here, if they didn't get the celebs they'd be giving them crap for failing to meet pledge goals.
Funny thing is... for the actual fans of the genre..and the PC gamers with a bit more age and experience... live action cutscenes with known actors was not all that uncommon. Chris Robert's Wing Commander already featured Mark Hamill and John R-Davies for example.
Star Citizen in many ways is staying true to the Wing Commander legacy, so this move with the cast is not out of left field. It was expected by the more experienced PC gamers who remember back to his other projects.
Goes to show how little the 4-5 haters know. Now the newest "thing" is to complain about getting a celebrity cast, when the stretch goal has been met already in Nov 2012 in the orginal campaign. Pffff.. just noise.
Have to agree here, if they didn't get the celebs they'd be giving them crap for failing to meet pledge goals.
Funny thing is... for the actual fans of the genre..and the PC gamers with a bit more age and experience... live action cutscenes with known actors was not all that uncommon. Chris Robert's Wing Commander already featured Mark Hamill and John R-Davies for example.
Star Citizen in many ways is staying true to the Wing Commander legacy, so this move with the cast is not out of left field. It was expected by the more experienced PC gamers who remember back to his other projects.
Goes to show how little the 4-5 haters know. Now the newest "thing" is to complain about getting a celebrity cast, when the stretch goal has been met already in Nov 2012 in the orginal campaign. Pffff.. just noise.
Have to agree here, if they didn't get the celebs they'd be giving them crap for failing to meet pledge goals.
Funny thing is... for the actual fans of the genre..and the PC gamers with a bit more age and experience... live action cutscenes with known actors was not all that uncommon.
Not that they were well known, but my favorite game ever that incorporated heavy FMV had to be Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within (2nd one).
Goes to show how little the 4-5 haters know. Now the newest "thing" is to complain about getting a celebrity cast, when the stretch goal has been met already in Nov 2012 in the orginal campaign. Pffff.. just noise.
Have to agree here, if they didn't get the celebs they'd be giving them crap for failing to meet pledge goals.
Funny thing is... for the actual fans of the genre..and the PC gamers with a bit more age and experience... live action cutscenes with known actors was not all that uncommon. Chris Robert's Wing Commander already featured Mark Hamill and John R-Davies for example.
Star Citizen in many ways is staying true to the Wing Commander legacy, so this move with the cast is not out of left field. It was expected by the more experienced PC gamers who remember back to his other projects.
And Biff from Back to the Future!!
I really hope they´ll get Tom Wilson on board for the sequel of Squadron 42
Well let's just start with Repayments, you know if you don't make them, you end up with a bailiff puting a padlock on the door just like 38 studios.
Well sorry to break your bubble, but it was not debt payments that doomed 38 studios, they just could not make payroll, had not even made a debt payment yet. So yes, NO difference.
Well let's just start with Repayments, you know if you don't make them, you end up with a bailiff puting a padlock on the door just like 38 studios.
Well sorry to break your bubble, but it was not debt payments that doomed 38 studios, they just could not make payroll, had not even made a debt payment yet. So yes, NO difference.
Um, it was their debt that made it impossible for them to get more loans and not be able to make that payroll. This seriously needs explained?
Well let's just start with Repayments, you know if you don't make them, you end up with a bailiff puting a padlock on the door just like 38 studios.
Well sorry to break your bubble, but it was not debt payments that doomed 38 studios, they just could not make payroll, had not even made a debt payment yet. So yes, NO difference.
Um, it was their debt that made it impossible for them to get more loans and not be able to make that payroll. This seriously needs explained?
Well let's just start with Repayments, you know if you don't make them, you end up with a bailiff puting a padlock on the door just like 38 studios.
Well sorry to break your bubble, but it was not debt payments that doomed 38 studios, they just could not make payroll, had not even made a debt payment yet. So yes, NO difference.
Um, it was their debt that made it impossible for them to get more loans and not be able to make that payroll. This seriously needs explained?
This ^^ for truth!
It seems that 38 studios was in debt a lot more than the 75 million from the state of Rhode Island.
"By the time 38 Studios closed its doors for good in June, dismissing hundreds of employees in an e-mail, the company listed $150 million in debt, $22 million in assets and $320 in petty cash."
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"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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When an anti-social like Derek Smart targets someone, they want to isolate them socially so they break down and give in. When someone shows emotion and others respond with support it sends the Derek Smarts of the world into a frenzy because they see their prey getting away.
Hopefully Chris and Sandi aren't too shaken up by this campaign of Derek Smarts. It can be quite harrowing to be the target of such a monster, and people who have never experienced it are always shocked and freaked out when it happens to them.
They feel alone and scared because of the buttons being pushed and the feeling that nobody would believe them when they tell the truth about the person that has targeted them. And all too often, they are right. Most people see the unsettled nature of the victim and start to think something is wrong with them. This aids the anti-social in his or her efforts to socially isolate the victim. It's a vicious cycle.
It's a good thing Sandi and Chris have a large, enthusiastic community of over one million people behind them. They should be back in top form after this, and continue making a great game.
I do wish you guys would just get off the DS stuff, he isn't going to go away so why even deal with him, stop bring him up and sooner or later he will be forgotten. Every time you guys bring him up you make people go look at what he said or is going to say.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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Funny
For people talking about not bringing him up... you sure bring him up enough
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
If you take up Derek Smart's message, you will always be associated with his failure to smear good people and destroy something that is important to over 1 million fans and interested parties. He owns this defamatory campaign now, and anyone who takes up his cause from now on is signing on to his ticket. You don't get to have a choice about that and pretend to be above it all with superior, altruistic motives.
As far as the strange hatred some people have for a video game that hasn't been made yet, that is their own weird issue. How many of these people tried to get in on some grey market with RMT and got burned when new ships and packages appeared? There really isn't any rational reason for the hatred beyond that and Derek Smart. Or, you have to admit you are working in the industry and are unnecessarily worried about some new funding model because of vague threats to your job. But nobody is going to admit that.
So the three categories of haters are:
1) Gray Market Cuthroats
2) Industry workers who feel threatened
3) Derek Smart and his sockpuppets
Not an especially convincing crowd.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
However, since CIG is not using "borrowed" money, it could borrow against the "value" of the company to raise more capital.
But, the KS might actually "hurt" at that point because one of the selling points either to an investor or institutional financier would be "future sales/profitability". Because the KS already "pre-sold" $90 mil in game clients and virtual assets, it will not be selling/profiting from those after launch, which would be a key factor in getting that loan/investment.
So, loaned money has its downside (interest) and KS'd money has its downside (many fewer copies sold for "profit" after launch).
So it is basically pick your poison as far as the source of the money is concerned, but at this point IF CIG/SC is running low on cash, it only really has two options to raise future pre-launch revenue: it can try to sell more ships (which it has been doing) or it can try to get a loan/investment while being hampered by low projected initial revenue (which is a huge negative to an investor), by virtue of the all the crowdfunded/KS pre-sold stuff.
Either way, if the cash is running short, it is not a good place to be.
I agree.
No one´s destroying anything and certainly not crowdfunding.
Doom and gloomers and their paranoia about something something will destroy something something if something something happens.
One of the "end is coming" cardboard waving justice warriors should for once point out a single case in gaming history where that actually happened.
Doom & Gloom always have a chance for being correct for projects, even with good teams behind them.
Granted when WoW released it had a lot of problems but most of those were due to how many players were trying to play it.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
Crazkanuk
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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I do have a lot of respect for Gillian Anderson, so hopefully they're getting a good deal on her.
Star Citizen in many ways is staying true to the Wing Commander legacy, so this move with the cast is not out of left field. It was expected by the more experienced PC gamers who remember back to his other projects.
Crazkanuk
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This seriously needs explained?
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
"By the time 38 Studios closed its doors for good in June, dismissing hundreds of employees in an e-mail, the company listed $150 million in debt, $22 million in assets and $320 in petty cash."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/business/curt-schilling-rhode-island-and-the-fall-of-38-studios.html?_r=0
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee