I love how you ignore a few little things, like they could always but credits to help outfit that ship, they could buy ships to sell for credits to outfit that ship, oh ya and they get to start with that ship to outfit. Everyone else has to earn credits to get the ship before they can even start outfitting it.
Poor logic is poor.
First you have to find out where to get military grade capital ship weapons.
And no, those are most likely not to be found on the "normal" market, as CIG has announced that it would be a quest itself to obtain them.
"....PLEASE note before buying that the Javelin is
not a free ride to interstellar domination. While it’s the largest ship
we have made available to backers, it’s actually the smallest UEE ship-of-the-line. Additionally, Javelins sold to players are “used” by the UEE.
They are surplus ships with their military weapons removed. Purchasing a
Javelin means a new quest for your Org or team as you rearm and upgrade
it for your needs!"
My personal guess is that you first have to get some kind of reputation with the military through missions before being eligible to be able to get the necessary equipment.
Have fun
PS: You could outfit the non-capital weapon slots with the lower powered civilian weapons available on the market. That would help you against cheap ass swarm attacks by such orgs as the Goonrathi. But not much ;-) I hope every Javelin owning org has a good fighter cover, otherwise they are begging to be robbed.
I love how you ignore a few little things, like they could always but credits to help outfit that ship, they could buy ships to sell for credits to outfit that ship, oh ya and they get to start with that ship to outfit. Everyone else has to earn credits to get the ship before they can even start outfitting it.
Poor logic is poor.
First you have to find out where to get military grade capital ship weapons.
And no, those are most likely not to be found on the "normal" market, as CIG has announced that it would be a quest itself to obtain them.
"....PLEASE note before buying that the Javelin is
not a free ride to interstellar domination. While it’s the largest ship
we have made available to backers, it’s actually the smallest UEE ship-of-the-line. Additionally, Javelins sold to players are “used” by the UEE.
They are surplus ships with their military weapons removed. Purchasing a
Javelin means a new quest for your Org or team as you rearm and upgrade
it for your needs!"
My personal guess is that you first have to get some kind of reputation with the military through missions before being eligible to be able to get the necessary equipment.
Have fun
PS: You could outfit the non-capital weapon slots with the lower powered civilian weapons available on the market. That would help you against cheap ass swarm attacks by such orgs as the Goonrathi. But not much ;-) I hope every Javelin owning org has a good fighter cover, otherwise they are begging to be robbed.
And yet again you miss the point, that is all stuff everyone will have to face, but the people that purchase the ship get a jump start. Again, people will just buy ships to sell for credits, they will buy credits to help outfit it, and they get to start with the ship in the first pace so the hundreds of hours to earn it is skipped.
I think anyone not realizing there will be at least a minor infraction of p2w are delusional fanbois.DO i think it will be a big problem,no i don't i would be far more worried about the actual game itself.However i do feel this game will be a massive cash shop EXPLOIT and what happens when you have a game that is about competition and pvp it creates a LOT more cash shop spending. First of all MANY people just have very poor control over their spending habits and secondly people will always feel if they just had that OTHER ship they might e better in pvp not because it is p2w but because it might suit their playstyle better.
We are not talking just ships we are talking addons as well,just imagine how many combinations are out there for people to try and wonder which one is right for them.In the end MANY players will spend ridiculous amounts to what i believe will be a shallow pvp game.Now on that note i also believe Eve is a shallow very weak game and many think it is great so of course opinions vary greatly.
However you should note that i actually love pvp,i was a pvp fanatic before mmo's so if i thought a game was really good at pvp i would jump into it in a heartbeat.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I remember hearing in the news (And looking it up a second ago), that they were offering a ship for sale, called The Javelin. Only 200 were made available at a point in time, and each sold for $2,500. The ship in question? A 345 Meter Destroyer, which looks -quite- formidable when compared to the tiny 18 Meter Fighter that "Basic" pledge members start off with. Now, while its possible that yes, at some point in time, people -will- be able to get this ship in game, the sheer power of this behemoth of a ship compared to everyone else at an early stage just seems...overwhelming. Not so much "Buying a hero in Smite/Dota" as starting off a match at level 15. People will eventually get to you...but the early game power just seems...staggering. An extreme example, but one that was done in the past (Currently, the Javelin is unavailable for sale, after selling out all 200 of them.)
Most of the current ones for sale fall into Medium/Heavy Fighters, or Explorer ships, which seem like they would offer still substantial increases..so while it may not be "Pay to Win" in the strict sense, it -does- offer some manner of advantage the same that buying a higher level character outfitted with dungeon gear in a more traditional MMO would...and it feels a little...distasteful.
Actually if you purchase the $15000 package, you are given the ability to purchase a Javelin for another 2500.
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And no, those are most likely not to be found on the "normal" market, as CIG has announced that it would be a quest itself to obtain them.
"....PLEASE note before buying that the Javelin is not a free ride to interstellar domination. While it’s the largest ship we have made available to backers, it’s actually the smallest UEE ship-of-the-line. Additionally, Javelins sold to players are “used” by the UEE. They are surplus ships with their military weapons removed. Purchasing a Javelin means a new quest for your Org or team as you rearm and upgrade it for your needs!"
My personal guess is that you first have to get some kind of reputation with the military through missions before being eligible to be able to get the necessary equipment.
Have fun
PS:
You could outfit the non-capital weapon slots with the lower powered civilian weapons available on the market. That would help you against cheap ass swarm attacks by such orgs as the Goonrathi. But not much ;-) I hope every Javelin owning org has a good fighter cover, otherwise they are begging to be robbed.
First of all MANY people just have very poor control over their spending habits and secondly people will always feel if they just had that OTHER ship they might e better in pvp not because it is p2w but because it might suit their playstyle better.
We are not talking just ships we are talking addons as well,just imagine how many combinations are out there for people to try and wonder which one is right for them.In the end MANY players will spend ridiculous amounts to what i believe will be a shallow pvp game.Now on that note i also believe Eve is a shallow very weak game and many think it is great so of course opinions vary greatly.
However you should note that i actually love pvp,i was a pvp fanatic before mmo's so if i thought a game was really good at pvp i would jump into it in a heartbeat.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.