... You generally do not threaten legal action unless it is your intention to follow through with legal action when your demands are rejected, otherwise it makes you look rather silly.
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Yes, it does make you look a bit silly.
I seem to remember reading a few weeks ago that Derek Smart had engaged a law firm, and that they had sent "a letter of demand" to CIG in preparation for an "impending" lawsuit. Much posturing and theatrics...
It's patently clear several weeks later that CIG have no intention whatsoever to respond to any of the allegations or ultimatums in that letter.
However, there's been no follow-up on the threat of legal action.
Silly, eh ?
Yes, also silly. I am not partisan. Just an amused spectator.
Just hoping I can figure away to write it off on my taxes as a bad investment.
It's a donation, if you are a U.S. citizen donations can be written off without any issue. However, Washington state and the federal government are trying to change it so if you back a crowdfunded project it is a 'pre-order'. So check with a tax attorney before you do that. Lord knows you don't want the IRS mafia on your back.
Also, @Erillion will esnure that all of these threads boil down to him and whoever going at each other until the thread gets locked or people just get sick of laughing at all involved and move along until the next thread appears. Should take about 3 to 5 minutes depending on time of day however the point is this conversation has not gone anywhere.
None of you, on either side of this, have any proof of anything.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
PS I don't think it's about defending, it's about correcting. While it hurts when you lose talent, there are a million different reasons he could have left, including that Crytek is apparently making a VR game now. Maybe that's more interesting. Maybe is work on SC is done. There is still someone involved with the project who was a lead engineer at crytek for the cryengine. There are also nearly 30 others who worked with the cryengine before. I don't see how one person leaving who is familiar with the engine is a travesty when there are nearly 30 other people who previously worked for Crytek.
Well more are leaving that am hearing and Dan Tracy actually does hurt with a game on this scale. I wish he would come out and state why and what is going on over there but am sure he signed some non disclosure agreement!
I agreed with you that losing any talent is a bad thing, but I've also heard that they're moving all Engine matters to Frankfurt to be worked on out of that office. I've heard that Tracy was given the option of moving, but opted to leave instead. It's well know, or I thought it was well known, that Frankfurt would be handling technical aspects of the game. I'm unaware of any others who are leave, that you're eluding to. However, I wouldn't be surprised if someone left, at some point. Natural turnover.
Just hoping I can figure away to write it off on my taxes as a bad investment.
It's a donation, if you are a U.S. citizen donations can be written off without any issue. However, Washington state and the federal government are trying to change it so if you back a crowdfunded project it is a 'pre-order'. So check with a tax attorney before you do that. Lord knows you don't want the IRS mafia on your back.
Also, @Erillion will esnure that all of these threads boil down to him and whoever going at each other until the thread gets locked or people just get sick of laughing at all involved and move along until the next thread appears. Should take about 3 to 5 minutes depending on time of day however the point is this conversation has not gone anywhere.
None of you, on either side of this, have any proof of anything.
True, tbh not sure why so many threads are allowed to be made and not just merged, it's all the same song an dance.
Just out of curiosity, why do you have to do that?
Because trying to blunt down occam's razor takes a serious chunk of time and effort.
But for those so deeply invested, not just in the traditional manner with money and salaries and future financial securities, but in the emotional...familial...personificational sense, the mere act of defending one's best interests is a reward greater than what money can ever buy. And over the internet where identities are so easily cloaked, you can choose to be your own samaritan.
Edit: A famous SC investor-backer-alteregoer-cheerleader-confusionspearder-shiller-citizencounter's reaction to spotting the inevitable cosmic iceberg lying before the Titanicitizen:
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I do not specialise in defamation, but yes. There is a lot of buzz around my industry about this, and many commentaries/ articles/ analysis written. You will be hard pressed to find anyone who sees a positive in the co-founder's letter.
Looking forward to you linking the commentaries/ articles/ analysis written about this.
Have fun
Fun read from an ex federal prosecutor about CIG letter.
Just out of curiosity, why do you have to do that?
Because trying to blunt down occam's razor takes a serious chunk of time and effort.
But for those so deeply invested, not just in the traditional manner with money and salaries and future financial securities, but in the emotional...familial...personificational sense, the mere act of defending one's best interests is a reward greater than what money can ever buy. And over the internet where identities are so easily cloaked, you can choose to be your own samaritan.
Edit: A famous SC investor-backer-alteregoer-cheerleader-confusionspearder-shiller-citizencounter's reaction to spotting the inevitable cosmic iceberg lying before the Titanicitizen:
You know what Occam's Razor says right? I'm just asking because the sentences that follow don't seem to coincide. Just as with defenders, Occam's Razor applies to attackers, also. There are so many radical, highly theoretical, highly speculative theories flying around from both camps. Occam's Razor requires the removal of speculation and assumption so you can arrive at the simplest answer. You know, it's entirely possible that some people are just ass holes, too. That's what I like to believe my excuse is.
However, I don't see how it being an emotional attachment or something they care about is a bad thing. Wouldn't that mean that people attacking the game are simply being ass holes? Difficult to say what the simplest answer is, but being the DS is now, apparently, suing the Internet, it definitely seems like the simplest answer.
You know what Occam's Razor says right? I'm just asking because the sentences that follow don't seem to coincide. Just as with defenders, Occam's Razor applies to attackers, also. There are so many radical, highly theoretical, highly speculative theories flying around from both camps. Occam's Razor requires the removal of speculation and assumption so you can arrive at the simplest answer. You know, it's entirely possible that some people are just ass holes, too. That's what I like to believe my excuse is.
However, I don't see how it being an emotional attachment or something they care about is a bad thing. Wouldn't that mean that people attacking the game are simply being ass holes? Difficult to say what the simplest answer is, but being the DS is now, apparently, suing the Internet, it definitely seems like the simplest answer.
Then your interpretation of Occam's Razor is nothing less than your bias clouded by your over-optimistic, subjective point of view. Forgive me for putting it bluntly, since that infact isnt Occam's Razor.
What you see are all the pipedreams spewed from CR's, impassioned speeches and waterworks from top CIG honchos and small tech demos to be proof of working conditions and 'assume' everything is fine.
What I see is the pushback of release dates, consecutive failures to uphold release dates, changes in TOS to suit their delays, failure to manage module development in a professional manner, top-end developers jumping ship and the n-number of spaceship jpegs still being sold for absurd amounts for a game that isnt even in a playable state...the definite pointers to something that isnt working as intended. And if only 'concrete proof', which many fans will claim is only direct words from CR's mouth, will open your eyes, then everything sure must be happy in Ignorantville. In fact you arent looking for the simplest answer, you are looking for the answer which will suit your tastes.
And the funding for this game comes either from delusional super-fans or the hopefully speculative consumers. So any bad mouthing would need to be viciously and vociferously attacked in order to safeguard the game's funding prospects and prevent the game from being shown in any bad light: be it the obvious visible issues or the hyperboles.
Throw the radical theories into the trashcan, as well as your rose-tints and judge the game from a neutral point of view, without joining the fantard or the hater camp. If you are capable of doing that then tell me what you are able to see.
EDIT:Tearing down this wall into bite sized bits.
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I was banned for pointing out the obvious faults in a game 2 months before it released. Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.
And FYI, people would be far more supportive of this game if CR had the business sense to work on and complete one module at a time. In the long run he would have the entire game out, while putting out content at a steady pace as well as undeniably showing that Star Citizen is a fully functional game. And also if he had the ethics to say, "You know what, we have enough money now to complete the game so we wont be selling any ships...err "pledges", for now until we at least put forth one complete portion of the game for our loyal players to play, as in the meantime we will create the rest of the modules."
So yes, some people are trying real hard to defend this project, regardless of what the facts may be. And pull in that idiot DS how many ever times you want to give your supposed point some worth...nothing will change the fact that without or without any DS, CR himself is his worst enemy. That man can make games, but as history stands testament, he doesnt know jackshit about successfully managing a company from the top.
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I was banned for pointing out the obvious faults in a game 2 months before it released. Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.
Star Citizen is a scam, always was a scam and will long be remembered as the worst scam in PC Gaming history; that caused everyone to give up on PC Game kick starters, crowdfunding and other popular ways to raise PC Game money.
You know what Occam's Razor says right? I'm just asking because the sentences that follow don't seem to coincide. Just as with defenders, Occam's Razor applies to attackers, also. There are so many radical, highly theoretical, highly speculative theories flying around from both camps. Occam's Razor requires the removal of speculation and assumption so you can arrive at the simplest answer. You know, it's entirely possible that some people are just ass holes, too. That's what I like to believe my excuse is.
However, I don't see how it being an emotional attachment or something they care about is a bad thing. Wouldn't that mean that people attacking the game are simply being ass holes? Difficult to say what the simplest answer is, but being the DS is now, apparently, suing the Internet, it definitely seems like the simplest answer.
Then your interpretation of Occam's Razor is nothing less than your bias clouded by your over-optimistic, subjective point of view. Forgive me for putting it bluntly, since that infact isnt Occam's Razor.
What you see are all the pipedreams spewed from CR's, impassioned speeches and waterworks from top CIG honchos and small tech demos to be proof of working conditions and 'assume' everything is fine.
What I see is the pushback of release dates, consecutive failures to uphold release dates, changes in TOS to suit their delays, failure to manage module development in a professional manner, top-end developers jumping ship and the n-number of spaceship jpegs still being sold for absurd amounts for a game that isnt even in a playable state...the definite pointers to something that isnt working as intended. And if only 'concrete proof', which many fans will claim is only direct words from CR's mouth, will open your eyes, then everything sure must be happy in Ignorantville. In fact you arent looking for the simplest answer, you are looking for the answer which will suit your tastes.
And the funding for this game comes either from delusional super-fans or the hopefully speculative consumers. So any bad mouthing would need to be viciously and vociferously attacked in order to safeguard the game's funding prospects and prevent the game from being shown in any bad light: be it the obvious visible issues or the hyperboles.
Throw the radical theories into the trashcan, as well as your rose-tints and judge the game from a neutral point of view, without joining the fantard or the hater camp. If you are capable of doing that then tell me what you are able to see.
EDIT:Tearing down this wall into bite sized bits.
Ok, so apart from your dancing around what the actual meaning of Occam's Razor is, I'll just go ahead and ask this question. Since Occam's Razor essentially says that the simplest answer is usually correct, why the fuck do you think that all of the hub-bub surrounding this game is the simplest answer? If you don't think the game is going to be released, that's fine. However, if we were to accept your view as the simplest answer then, essentially, the world of video games would be doomed.
Here's where your argument falls down. See there are hundreds (like 500+) video games released each year. Why would the simplest answer be that this one game will not release? Even The Witcher 3 got pushed back multiple times. Shit! Games get pushed back every year, multiple times per year. However, I don't hear people saying that the game won't be released. So they're saying they will be releasing in 2016. Again, the simplest answer says that we accept that to be true. As soon as you start laying on the conspiracies and paranoia you're essentially the one dulling Occam's Razor. Why? Because there's no evidence otherwise, so the simplest answer is to believe what we've been told by the person making the game, and the latest update on that release date was last month.
Ok, so apart from your dancing around what the actual meaning of Occam's Razor is, I'll just go ahead and ask this question. Since Occam's Razor essentially says that the simplest answer is usually correct, why the fuck do you think that all of the hub-bub surrounding this game is the simplest answer? If you don't think the game is going to be released, that's fine. However, if we were to accept your view as the simplest answer then, essentially, the world of video games would be doomed.
Here's where your argument falls down. See there are hundreds (like 500+) video games released each year. Why would the simplest answer be that this one game will not release? Even The Witcher 3 got pushed back multiple times. Shit! Games get pushed back every year, multiple times per year. However, I don't hear people saying that the game won't be released. So they're saying they will be releasing in 2016. Again, the simplest answer says that we accept that to be true. As soon as you start laying on the conspiracies and paranoia you're essentially the one dulling Occam's Razor. Why? Because there's no evidence otherwise, so the simplest answer is to believe what we've been told by the person making the game, and the latest update on that release date was last month.
I was reading along, I hadn't really planned on responding here, but your example really doesn't fit with Ocum's Razor.
"Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected."
But that example (Lots of video games are released, so it's logical CIG would release one) in itself makes far too many massive assumptions.
Ocum's Razor would take every single shred of verifiable evidence that is known about this project and CIG and Chris Roberts and compile them to formulate all possible outcomes based on the information available. Then from there..... Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.
Ok, so apart from your dancing around what the actual meaning of Occam's Razor is, I'll just go ahead and ask this question. Since Occam's Razor essentially says that the simplest answer is usually correct, why the fuck do you think that all of the hub-bub surrounding this game is the simplest answer? If you don't think the game is going to be released, that's fine. However, if we were to accept your view as the simplest answer then, essentially, the world of video games would be doomed.
Here's where your argument falls down. See there are hundreds (like 500+) video games released each year. Why would the simplest answer be that this one game will not release? Even The Witcher 3 got pushed back multiple times. Shit! Games get pushed back every year, multiple times per year. However, I don't hear people saying that the game won't be released. So they're saying they will be releasing in 2016. Again, the simplest answer says that we accept that to be true. As soon as you start laying on the conspiracies and paranoia you're essentially the one dulling Occam's Razor. Why? Because there's no evidence otherwise, so the simplest answer is to believe what we've been told by the person making the game, and the latest update on that release date was last month.
I was reading along, I hadn't really planned on responding here, but your example really doesn't fit with Ocum's Razor.
"Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected."
But that example (Lots of video games are released, so it's logical CIG would release one) in itself makes far too many massive assumptions.
Ocum's Razor would take every single shred of verifiable evidence that is known about this project and CIG and Chris Roberts and compile them to formulate all possible outcomes based on the information available. Then from there..... Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.
Although one applies more to math, the other applies to law
TLDR; "It is what it is"
Correct, I think we're on the same wavelength here, but maybe I'm not saying it right. The amount of real, verifiable evidence here is thin. So even if we apply the definition you're using, doesn't it mean the same thing? Some game will be released in some state at some point in time. Yeah?
I just want to add that Star Citizen isn't a cult and if it all turns out to NOT be hogwash the people who blindly put their faith and monies into the game are still marks and don't get to go to heaven for believing.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
Wow all your cock and bull stories apart, you seem to be far too overeager to bring in strawman arguments with your trigger happy replies.
I have previously said (go search my post history if you are that desperate) that this game WILL be released. But will be nothing like what CR has promised. And no matter what, it will be a let down since Nothing can live up to the extent of hype created here.
What I explicitly stated here in this thread, (there are) "definite pointers to something that isnt working as intended." Is that what had you "assume" that I said 'this game will not release'? I dont think your knack for landing down all these unwanted assumptions should have you start preaching about Occam's Razor, aye?
So bring me a single, just one, quote where I say this game will "not release" before you go off the deep end and start posting rubbish, ok? Personally, I am sensing some vendetta from your end which is blinding you to the actual content of my posts and is making you rather hasty to go on the offensive to attack me and my posts for whatever reason you feel I have slighted you. Well relax bub, you can dance around this all you want. But this is a game, where I am just an observer for the time being. And at the end of the day, its still going to be Just a game
Also as Geezer pointed out...you bringing in "there are hundreds (like 500+) video games released each year" kinda feels like you are stretching far, to make the answer suit your fancies. I understand that you Want this game to succeed no matter the costs, hell I dont care much for this game and I would like to see it work as well. But dont mix in your brand of bullshit just to make light of serious red flags this game is throwing to anyone sitting on the fence.
Doesnt sound like you have having fun. Why dont you lighten up and have fun?
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I was banned for pointing out the obvious faults in a game 2 months before it released. Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.
And FYI, people would be far more supportive of this game
How much more supportive can people get in regard to this game? If there is one thing CIG isn't hurting for it's consumer support.
Going by the words of some internet marketers / fantards of SC, they would like to have the same budget as swtor, gta and whatever else that breaks high triple digits in funding, for this game.
So I guess, people could have gotten a few hundred million dollars more supportive towards this project?
And dont forget, the moment the sugar wears off and the salty kicks in, these very consumers will be the first ones to turn on them and raise the pitchforks and torches when they "feel" like they have been robbed.
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Also, @Erillion will esnure that all of these threads boil down to him and whoever going at each other until the thread gets locked or people just get sick of laughing at all involved and move along until the next thread appears. Should take about 3 to 5 minutes depending on time of day however the point is this conversation has not gone anywhere.
None of you, on either side of this, have any proof of anything.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
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A: Your Honor.
Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50
A: Senator
Someone had too.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
A: A forum warrior.
This have been a good conversation
There's no goal of these threads.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
But for those so deeply invested, not just in the traditional manner with money and salaries and future financial securities, but in the emotional...familial...personificational sense, the mere act of defending one's best interests is a reward greater than what money can ever buy. And over the internet where identities are so easily cloaked, you can choose to be your own samaritan.
Edit: A famous SC investor-backer-alteregoer-cheerleader-confusionspearder-shiller-citizencounter's reaction to spotting the inevitable cosmic iceberg lying before the Titanicitizen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jzDnsjYv9A
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Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.
https://popehat.com/2015/10/04/in-space-no-one-can-hear-you-threaten-lawsuits/
You know what Occam's Razor says right? I'm just asking because the sentences that follow don't seem to coincide. Just as with defenders, Occam's Razor applies to attackers, also. There are so many radical, highly theoretical, highly speculative theories flying around from both camps. Occam's Razor requires the removal of speculation and assumption so you can arrive at the simplest answer. You know, it's entirely possible that some people are just ass holes, too. That's what I like to believe my excuse is.
However, I don't see how it being an emotional attachment or something they care about is a bad thing. Wouldn't that mean that people attacking the game are simply being ass holes? Difficult to say what the simplest answer is, but being the DS is now, apparently, suing the Internet, it definitely seems like the simplest answer.
Crazkanuk
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What you see are all the pipedreams spewed from CR's, impassioned speeches and waterworks from top CIG honchos and small tech demos to be proof of working conditions and 'assume' everything is fine.
What I see is the pushback of release dates, consecutive failures to uphold release dates, changes in TOS to suit their delays, failure to manage module development in a professional manner, top-end developers jumping ship and the n-number of spaceship jpegs still being sold for absurd amounts for a game that isnt even in a playable state...the definite pointers to something that isnt working as intended.
And if only 'concrete proof', which many fans will claim is only direct words from CR's mouth, will open your eyes, then everything sure must be happy in Ignorantville.
In fact you arent looking for the simplest answer, you are looking for the answer which will suit your tastes.
And the funding for this game comes either from delusional super-fans or the hopefully speculative consumers. So any bad mouthing would need to be viciously and vociferously attacked in order to safeguard the game's funding prospects and prevent the game from being shown in any bad light: be it the obvious visible issues or the hyperboles.
Throw the radical theories into the trashcan, as well as your rose-tints and judge the game from a neutral point of view, without joining the fantard or the hater camp. If you are capable of doing that then tell me what you are able to see.
EDIT:Tearing down this wall into bite sized bits.
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Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.
And also if he had the ethics to say, "You know what, we have enough money now to complete the game so we wont be selling any ships...err "pledges", for now until we at least put forth one complete portion of the game for our loyal players to play, as in the meantime we will create the rest of the modules."
So yes, some people are trying real hard to defend this project, regardless of what the facts may be. And pull in that idiot DS how many ever times you want to give your supposed point some worth...nothing will change the fact that without or without any DS, CR himself is his worst enemy.
That man can make games, but as history stands testament, he doesnt know jackshit about successfully managing a company from the top.
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Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.
Ok, so apart from your dancing around what the actual meaning of Occam's Razor is, I'll just go ahead and ask this question. Since Occam's Razor essentially says that the simplest answer is usually correct, why the fuck do you think that all of the hub-bub surrounding this game is the simplest answer? If you don't think the game is going to be released, that's fine. However, if we were to accept your view as the simplest answer then, essentially, the world of video games would be doomed.
Here's where your argument falls down. See there are hundreds (like 500+) video games released each year. Why would the simplest answer be that this one game will not release? Even The Witcher 3 got pushed back multiple times. Shit! Games get pushed back every year, multiple times per year. However, I don't hear people saying that the game won't be released. So they're saying they will be releasing in 2016. Again, the simplest answer says that we accept that to be true. As soon as you start laying on the conspiracies and paranoia you're essentially the one dulling Occam's Razor. Why? Because there's no evidence otherwise, so the simplest answer is to believe what we've been told by the person making the game, and the latest update on that release date was last month.
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"Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected."
But that example (Lots of video games are released, so it's logical CIG would release one) in itself makes far too many massive assumptions.
Ocum's Razor would take every single shred of verifiable evidence that is known about this project and CIG and Chris Roberts and compile them to formulate all possible outcomes based on the information available. Then from there.....
Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.
There's also another term that kinda goes hand in hand with Ocum's Razor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Res_ipsa_loquitur
Although one applies more to math, the other applies to law
TLDR; "It is what it is"
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Correct, I think we're on the same wavelength here, but maybe I'm not saying it right. The amount of real, verifiable evidence here is thin. So even if we apply the definition you're using, doesn't it mean the same thing? Some game will be released in some state at some point in time. Yeah?
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"Do something right, no one remembers.
Do something wrong, no one forgets"
-from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
I can't believe someone beat me to Friday funnies.
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Game will be released: Fans will say "I told you so".
Game doesn't release: Naysayers will say "I told you so".
I wouldn't put money on it releasing in a complete, functioning state delivered as promised.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Star Citizen will fare as well as previous attempts to create a virtual universe with space-fighting, trading and FPS gameplay.
I have previously said (go search my post history if you are that desperate) that this game WILL be released. But will be nothing like what CR has promised. And no matter what, it will be a let down since Nothing can live up to the extent of hype created here.
What I explicitly stated here in this thread, (there are) "definite pointers to something that isnt working as intended." Is that what had you "assume" that I said 'this game will not release'?
I dont think your knack for landing down all these unwanted assumptions should have you start preaching about Occam's Razor, aye?
So bring me a single, just one, quote where I say this game will "not release" before you go off the deep end and start posting rubbish, ok?
Personally, I am sensing some vendetta from your end which is blinding you to the actual content of my posts and is making you rather hasty to go on the offensive to attack me and my posts for whatever reason you feel I have slighted you.
Well relax bub, you can dance around this all you want. But this is a game, where I am just an observer for the time being. And at the end of the day, its still going to be Just a game
Also as Geezer pointed out...you bringing in "there are hundreds (like 500+) video games released each year" kinda feels like you are stretching far, to make the answer suit your fancies. I understand that you Want this game to succeed no matter the costs, hell I dont care much for this game and I would like to see it work as well. But dont mix in your brand of bullshit just to make light of serious red flags this game is throwing to anyone sitting on the fence.
Doesnt sound like you have having fun. Why dont you lighten up and have fun?
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Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.
Going by the words of some internet marketers / fantards of SC, they would like to have the same budget as swtor, gta and whatever else that breaks high triple digits in funding, for this game.
So I guess, people could have gotten a few hundred million dollars more supportive towards this project?
And dont forget, the moment the sugar wears off and the salty kicks in, these very consumers will be the first ones to turn on them and raise the pitchforks and torches when they "feel" like they have been robbed.
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Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.