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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Elite was not a commercial success.
He's well known as a guy that overpromises and underdelivers, and he didn't just do it in gaming. The guy was a huge failure in films as well. He spend decades taking investor money and not delivering.
I'm not hating on the man. I looked into the initial crowdfunding campaign, and the mans track record. I made a decision based on his record, not nostalgia. He's a simply a bad project manager, always has been, always will be.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
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Wasn't the whole PURPOSE of Kickstarter games to provide independent financing AND remove the pressure and control of publishers/investors from the creative process ?
And weren't those "failed deadlines" in fact deadlines that were imposed by publishers and/or parent companies ? Deadlines that were primarily dictated by budget limits and expected ROI ?
Did any of these CR games that missed one or two externally imposed deadlines turn out to be commercial disasters ? Actually, most of them ended-up in the Hall of Fame. We will never know how much better they could have been if they'd had an extra year of dev time and money...
I don't realistically expect anyone to only produce smash-hit games. It's quite reasonable to have a dud or two in amongst a row of critically acclaimed blockbusters. One failure does not negate a number of huge successes.
In the case of Chris Roberts, his gaming success towers above any of his failures. That's why I "believe" that he will make a good space sim. That history of genre-defining space sims is why fans have backed this Chris Roberts initiative to record-breaking levels.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
You mean ... MORE THAN ONE PERSON WORKED ON THESE GAMES ?! **gasp**shock**
I NEVER KNEW ..... ;-)
/emote faints
Have fun
He said he could make the game in two years on like 1% of the money he's raised. With double the time, and a crapton more money, he still only releasing tech demos.
After 20 years experience managing other peoples companies, and having to be responsible for investing their money into other individuals, I would not invest in CR as a PROJECT MANAGER because his history tells me he's a bad investment.
When I have to decide on an investment I do not look at your "vision", I look at what you've done in the past. CR's past does not inspire confidence in his ability to manage a project.
Not to mention that I have the past 4 years showing me very clearly that he's doing more of what he's done in the past. After 4 years I have only tech demos to look at, when he said he could release a game in 2, on a fraction of the money he's working on today.
I feel like I'm being incredibly reasonable in my stance here.
That he was in charge of....
I just love the consistency, and being old find comfort in the predictable stability.
Starlancer was generally favorably received, but never made a huge splash in the industry. Freelancer never got close to release until CR left the studio making it and Microsoft stepped in to reign in the development scope (which, both sides have to admit, is a situation that tastes the same as the development progress thus far on SC). The game only then released 3 full years later with multiple originally planned features missing altogether (though it should be noted it still received favorable reviews).
Since leaving Digital Anvil a decade and a half ago, he's not done anything of note in this industry until he started SC.
All in all, I'd say it leaves some talking points for both sides.. But since he hasn't been involved with a successful video game project since the turn of the century, I (personally) would have to agree with Uhwop: he's not a good bet.
Freelancer had quite a colorful history. Much politics and corporate shenanigans around that one. At one point, it was the most anticipated space sim in the market. Sound familiar ?
However, the development time and money required to implement the complete feature list for Freelancer did not sit well with Microsoft, so one of the most anticipated features, the dynamic universe, was cut (as well as a few others). The game was still well received generally at release, and remains one of my alltime favorites.
I can't find any references to it's lack of "commercial success". Perhaps you can cite some sources ?
The original design of Freelancer was in all likelihood overambitious, given the tech at the time and the limited resources available to the team. Even today, Star Citizen is at the bleeding edge of tech.
Even if Star Citizen can only match the flawed Freelancer in scope, I will still be a very happy customer !
Im going to wait til the game releases and get my free starport shuttle and run coconut delivery missions for 3 months until I can afford to buy a little space ship! I hope the $10000 founders don't blow my little shuttle out of space with my bundle of coconuts! I wont even be armed!
I will probably get a rubberband gun to shot at them.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
Yes, freelancer.
Think about what you said about freelancer, now consider that you say the exact same thing about SC.
I'm not saying it'll be a bad game or anything, only that I expect more of the same from CR. That is bloat, delays, missing features, and performance issues. Not because I dislike the guy, or his games, but because that is what I should expect from a project run by him, because that's his history.
I don't expect a cat to behave like a dog, and I don't expect CR to not do what he's got a habit of doing. He did it when he started in games, he did it when he moved on to films, and by all evidence he's doing it again with SC.
After 4 years you shouldn't be testing tech demos at this point, he should have something substantial by now, and he doesn't.
A tiger doesn't change its stripes.
pretty much every industry and pretty much every product almot to the point that its expected.
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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
My argument is with those that believe this failing guarantees that he cannot produce a game AT ALL when left largely to his own devices. There is no precedent for that allegation, because that situation never existed previously.
There is no question about his talent as a game designer. None of his games were ever a "flop", and all had respectable sales at the very least. Microsoft even kept him on as a creative consultant for 3 years after they bought Digital Anvil.
Yes, I expect SC to have many delays and overruns. I'd be surprised if anyone that was familiar with his career did not expect the same. But I also expect that an above-average game will be produced eventually, even if it is 3 years late and 100% over budget !
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