You continue to confuse your assertion that they need to make more money with my stating that a possibility is to earn more money. They are not the same thing.
We both know they need more money. It's ok though that if you want to continue to be in denial. It's your life and money.
No we don't know it. You believe it. I don't know if they do one way or the other. That is the thing I don't claim to know. You do. I claim to not know.
This is illustrative of my problem with the posts I take issue with.
Try this, when you believe or think but have no facts to prove something start your sentences with... I believe, I think, It seems, They may, etc, etc
Your continued assertions of opinion as fact undermines your points.
Star Citizen and Robert Space Industries is an absolute joke. They can't make a game with $100 million that was originally supposed to be made for $6 million. Now they have split Star Citizen and Squadron 42 into separate games thereby giving their pledge backers and future players a HUGE middle finger.
And I remember them stating that Squadron 42 was just a game mode OF Star Citizen.
Star Citizen and Robert Space Industries is an absolute joke. They can't make a game with $100 million that was originally supposed to be made for $6 million. Now they have split Star Citizen and Squadron 42 into separate games thereby giving their pledge backers and future players a HUGE middle finger.
And I remember them stating that Squadron 42 was just a game mode OF Star Citizen.
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For the, I've lost track of how many times, the game that would of been made for 6 million isn't the game being made.
It is their right to separate the game purchases for future backers. No one has to pay it. You say you won't so just don't. That's your right.
Star Citizen and Robert Space Industries is an absolute joke. They can't make a game with $100 million that was originally supposed to be made for $6 million. Now they have split Star Citizen and Squadron 42 into separate games thereby giving their pledge backers and future players a HUGE middle finger.
And I remember them stating that Squadron 42 was just a game mode OF Star Citizen.
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For the, I've lost track of how many times, the game that would of been made for 6 million isn't the game being made.
It is their right to separate the game purchases for future backers. No one has to pay it. You say you won't so just don't. That's your right.
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It's their right to separate games but it's a huge middle finger to future players and it shows their current backers just how money hungry they are. Plain and simple.
It's basically going against what they originally stated.
It's like they're saying "oh you don't want to back us? well have fun buying TWO games now!"
Star Citizen and Robert Space Industries is an absolute joke. They can't make a game with $100 million that was originally supposed to be made for $6 million. Now they have split Star Citizen and Squadron 42 into separate games thereby giving their pledge backers and future players a HUGE middle finger.
And I remember them stating that Squadron 42 was just a game mode OF Star Citizen.
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For the, I've lost track of how many times, the game that would of been made for 6 million isn't the game being made.
It is their right to separate the game purchases for future backers. No one has to pay it. You say you won't so just don't. That's your right.
[mod edit]
It's their right to separate games but it's a huge middle finger to future players and it shows their current backers just how money hungry they are. Plain and simple.
It's basically going against what they originally stated.
It's like they're saying "oh you don't want to back us? well have fun buying TWO games now!" [mod edit]
Game companies change their offers all the time. This isn't any different. No promise, I am aware of, was ever made that the pledges for future backers couldn't be different.
Personally, I would prefer they not be separated but that is neither here nor there.
As you were referring to the single player game I can only say we wont know until it launches. These days I have to log into several single player games that I play. I have no reason to think they won't use the same launcher for both but no way of knowing either.
neither. Am I a backer? Yes. Do I think everything is going perfectly at RSI? No. Do I comment when people say something I am interested in responding to or that is blatantly not what they are purporting it to be? Absolutely.
Answer me this if you wouldn't mind... Why, in your mind, dose my not agreeing with your assertion immediately make me either a troll or a fanboi?
I love these threads. Watching all the fanboys charge to the defence of RSI. Puts me in mind of 'Into the valley rode the 600', and we all know how that turned out.
It's their right to separate games but it's a huge middle finger to future players and it shows their current backers just how money hungry they are. Plain and simple.
It's basically going against what they originally stated.
It's like they're saying "oh you don't want to back us? well have fun buying TWO games now!"
And I was referring to the single-player game being torrented. Like it's not just a mode now, it's a separate game right? Hmm..yea.
There really is no cause to take up, you either buy or you don't I think that's the point Thourne is trying to make, I'd agree, this certainly may change my mind about making a purchase, but other than that what is there to say? What do you folks want from people? Do you really have fun sitting around arguing over nonsense or saying the word fanboi? Constantly looking for someone to target as an enemy just seems so pre-2000 to me at this point.
I mean do you really expect everyone to just jump up in defense of a potential future consumer? If it's not worth the price of two games, it won't take long before that's evident, if it is worth the price there is no problem...
As for being money hungry, of course they are, most are...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Look at this page .. With more than 100m going into their pockets they still offer these insane packages ..
12.500$ rofl ..
If someone wants to hand over up to 18.000 bucks for a completionist package and I get the game i like ... more power to them. Its not my money. Most crowdfunding projects offer high end packages - SC is no exception.
If I would run a business and people throw money at me voluntarily - i personally would NOT "duck and cover" ;-)
Those comparisons aren't really the same at all. They typically exist for the duration of the kickstarter only and they are sold in extremely limited amounts. Shroud of the Avatar is the exception with its post kickstarter cash shop but surprise, surprise another Origin guy, who along with Roberts was employed by EA and both are willing to cash in on their customers.
I just care about the solo game. So only one purchase to worry about. I fear the online part of the game will become a hack & exploit feast. Especially with lag switching to keep resources safe.
Look at this page .. With more than 100m going into their pockets they still offer these insane packages ..
12.500$ rofl ..
If someone wants to hand over up to 18.000 bucks for a completionist package and I get the game i like ... more power to them. Its not my money. Most crowdfunding projects offer high end packages - SC is no exception.
If I would run a business and people throw money at me voluntarily - i personally would NOT "duck and cover" ;-)
Those comparisons aren't really the same at all. They typically exist for the duration of the kickstarter only and they are sold in extremely limited amounts. Shroud of the Avatar is the exception with its post kickstarter cash shop but surprise, surprise another Origin guy, who along with Roberts was employed by EA and both are willing to cash in on their customers.
Have fun
Quite a few companies do this, its again nothing specific for CIG. Avatar you mentioned. See other ongoing crowdfunding e.g. here
"A pack containing two free songs by Julie Fowlis, acclaimed
Scottish-Gaelic composer, vocalist and multi-instrumentalist, including
music used in the final game."
BTW that Brian Bardic Skin reminds me of the Elite Dangerous Braben Bobble Head
Actually I know what this is, it's the bit where you start getting silly and trying to irritate instead of discussing or admitting that your analogy was just a wee bit off.
Well this is ofc a two-step action to as many have said establish a market and entice the single player only crowd after all if you offer the entire package for 59.99 ad then say.. but if you only want to play Sp offline you can get this pack for 39.99 and then buy a add-on if you like for 19.99. for the other part.
Secondly it is ofc a way to make getting a refund a worse deal at this point. (because it is most likely the entry level people who choose to get a refund.) So they keep customers who otherwise migth have choosen to get a refund.
Thirdly it is ofc a way to tip a few people over from "i am waiting" to "i am getting".
Am I a backer? Yes. Do I think everything is going perfectly at RSI? No. Do I comment when people say something I am interested in responding to or that is blatantly not what they are purporting it to be? Absolutely.
Answer me this if you wouldn't mind... Why, in your mind, dose my not agreeing with your assertion immediately make me either a troll or a fanboi?
Because anyone that cannot see this as a dick move is either a fanboy of RSI or is asleep at the wheel in oncoming traffic.
If this is your finally answer it's clear you have fallen into the trap of beleving what the OP has written without researching the matter yourself, like 80% of people here.
This information has been known since last year, it was clearly stated on their website, it was stated in their videos and has been stated several times by many streamers and youtubers.
If this info was only given out 2 days ago I would agree, but it hasn't. Is this still considered a dick move even if the information has been known for several months and probably longer than that?
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Try this, when you believe or think but have no facts to prove something start your sentences with...
I believe, I think, It seems, They may, etc, etc
Your continued assertions of opinion as fact undermines your points.
And I remember them stating that Squadron 42 was just a game mode OF Star Citizen.
[mod edit]
It is their right to separate the game purchases for future backers. No one has to pay it. You say you won't so just don't. That's your right.
[mod edit]
It's basically going against what they originally stated.
It's like they're saying "oh you don't want to back us? well have fun buying TWO games now!"
[mod edit]
Personally, I would prefer they not be separated but that is neither here nor there.
As you were referring to the single player game I can only say we wont know until it launches. These days I have to log into several single player games that I play. I have no reason to think they won't use the same launcher for both but no way of knowing either.
Am I a backer? Yes.
Do I think everything is going perfectly at RSI? No.
Do I comment when people say something I am interested in responding to or that is blatantly not what they are purporting it to be? Absolutely.
Answer me this if you wouldn't mind...
Why, in your mind, dose my not agreeing with your assertion immediately make me either a troll or a fanboi?
I mean do you really expect everyone to just jump up in defense of a potential future consumer? If it's not worth the price of two games, it won't take long before that's evident, if it is worth the price there is no problem...
As for being money hungry, of course they are, most are...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Look at this page .. With more than 100m going into their pockets they still offer these insane packages ..
12.500$ rofl ..
If I would run a business and people throw money at me voluntarily - i personally would NOT "duck and cover" ;-)
Have fun
PS:
Some examples for high end packages
10.000 $
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-numenera/description
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/battletech/description
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/shadowrun-hong-kong/description
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/portalarium/shroud-of-the-avatar-forsaken-virtues-0/description
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/the-bards-tale-iv/description
Starter Package lists
Have fun
https://www.kickstarter.com > Crowdfunding
robertsspaceindustries.com > Sales Page
The only thing that CIG has crowdfunded was their sales page.
When you have cake, it is not the cake that creates the most magnificent of experiences, but it is the emotions attached to it.
The cake is a lie.
http://bardstale.inxile-entertainment.com/
Have fun
I can not wait for the bard of the month skin to buy for 300$, or the Tune of Skara Brae that will be composed somewhen in the future for 1000$ ...
Oh wait ... they are just selling the kickstarter packages on their site
When you have cake, it is not the cake that creates the most magnificent of experiences, but it is the emotions attached to it.
The cake is a lie.
Bardic skin :
http://bardstale.inxile-entertainment.com/pledge/codex/parts?id=50
"Be Brian in The Bard's Tale IV! This exclusive Brian Fargo skin will let you play as our CEO in the game."
Composed Tune
http://bardstale.inxile-entertainment.com/pledge/codex/parts?id=48
"A pack containing two free songs by Julie Fowlis, acclaimed Scottish-Gaelic composer, vocalist and multi-instrumentalist, including music used in the final game."
BTW that Brian Bardic Skin reminds me of the Elite Dangerous Braben Bobble Head
https://fpstore-staging-front.zaonce.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/1280x720/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/d/edhorizon_bobbleheadannounceendplate.jpg
Oh wait ... Frontier is not just selling game packages on their site ;-)
https://www.frontierstore.net/eur/merchandise/elite-dangerous-merchandise.html
https://www.frontierstore.net/eur/game-extras/elite-dangerous-game-extras.html
Have fun
That would be rather silly.
They will either have a game or a class action lawsuit.
With that kind of money, probably both.
“Many a mickle makes a muckle”
Have fun
Actually I know what this is, it's the bit where you start getting silly and trying to irritate instead of discussing or admitting that your analogy was just a wee bit off.
Have Fun doing that by yourself.
Secondly it is ofc a way to make getting a refund a worse deal at this point. (because it is most likely the entry level people who choose to get a refund.) So they keep customers who otherwise migth have choosen to get a refund.
Thirdly it is ofc a way to tip a few people over from "i am waiting" to "i am getting".
This have been a good conversation
This information has been known since last year, it was clearly stated on their website, it was stated in their videos and has been stated several times by many streamers and youtubers.
If this info was only given out 2 days ago I would agree, but it hasn't. Is this still considered a dick move even if the information has been known for several months and probably longer than that?