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And yes there can be,might be subtleties in statements ,i can read between the lines as good as anyone can,likely even better and there was still no indication of gender in the article.
Also in fairness to the title,we still treat women as seconds/inferior and that is fact.How many top level Women execs do we see anywhere?I know there is a women behind i think is Yahoo or maybe it was Google.
Matter of fact just a couple days ago i was checking out the richest women list and they were predominantly inherited fortunes from their deceased husbands or fathers.Example the women/Waltons of the Walmart franchise.
How many people can actually say a women's name comes to mind with gaming,then how many people can quickly think Smedley or Ben Brode?
Ok off topic,man would i love to give Brode a slap up the side of the head lmao,there got that off my chest,now i can go back to eating my absolutely amazing Chicken teriyaki sub
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
In DC traffic? Hannibal and his elephants had an easier time dropping by Italy.
LOL, how true, how true. When I eventually leave Virginia, I won't miss the traffic.
Mark Jacobs
CEO, City State Entertainment
In DC traffic? Hannibal and his elephants had an easier time dropping by Italy.
you guys should all go crash your old studio in fairfax and piss off EA.
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
a real gamer who is someone who devotes his life to gaming and neither gets paid nor has to advertise. A real gamer is someone who can sit down for hours in my case 50,000+ hours and then turn around and jump on the treadmill while watching gaming videos. I dont need a sport nor do I need the employment. But I am the realest gamer you will ever hear about. Im Chronykle
Born from blood,
trained to kill,
ready to die,
but never will!
I mean... doesn't this quote in an article about the 1964 Civil Rights Act sound familiar? "Many whites denounced the “Civil Wrongs Bill,” holding that such federal laws imperiled their own rights. They clung to the notion that rights were finite, and that as blacks gained freedom, whites must suffer a loss of their own liberties."
Change a couple of words around and you have the essence of anti-feminist gamergate crap.
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Sanya M. Weathers
Director of Community
Undead Labs
In DC traffic? Hannibal and his elephants had an easier time dropping by Italy.
LOL.
I, and i think i speak for more than a few when i say "WE", miss you Sanya. Thankfully we have Carol aka Beibs fighting the good fight for us.
The community you helped to create in the first few years of DAoC is something i really miss. Not a single game that i have played since has come close. Hopefully MJ's new endeavor fills that void.
And for the record, we have cows now and they can pvp with the best of them.
The vast majority of game players do not care who makes the games, they don't care what character they play...they care about THE GAME. This has been proven over and over again.
Name me one protest done by the gaming community over a company choosing to have a woman make a game...
Just because you claim sexism, doesn't mean there is.
Just because you point out a few posts, doesn't mean there is.
I can point to posts made to MALE game makers that are just as bad if not far worse...does it mean sexism? No. Hell, I recall reading a post in a live developer chat on Sony's stream years ago about a developer having to leave chat because his son was just rushed to the hospital and some troll replying with something along the lines of "I hope you get into an accident on the way to the hospital and get trapped in your car and it catches fire and as you are burning you get a call telling you that your son died".
If that was posted about a female developer it would get headlines as ultimate proof of misogyny in gaming. It isn't. Its just PC BS. Make a good game and no one will CARE. And no, the amount of women in gaming does not mean sexism either as equality does not mean equal results. Only equal opportunity means equality and that is not in gamers hands, its in the hands of individual companies to choose to or not to hire someone because of gender...which is against the LAW BTW.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Go figure.
Sanya was one of the best frontmen in customer relations since those days going back as far as the Tweety moniker in EQ, through DAoC.. you knew when she said something it was either as close to truth as possible, or if it wasn't exactly she'd find out where the screw up was and explain the issue instead of burying the head in the sand like so many PR's today.
. The point someone made earlier was well said, if you interviewed Mark Jacobs, you wouldn't have tagged it as "Men In Gaming".
Congrats because of your insistence to highlight 'females in gaming' you've detracted from an otherwise good article.
Sanya M. Weathers
Director of Community
Undead Labs
Please tell me some of you guys are just trolling...
Women have ALWAYS been involved in all levels of game development, from programmer to CEO. Please don't ignore female accomplishments in the industry from the 1970s onward by implying that women have not been kicking ass for decades, and the quote above seems to say it is a new thing. It's not a 50/50 male/female split, but neither is sanitation or coal mining.
What is happening is, women 3rd wave feminists dont want to have to compete when competition is a must in order to drive things forward, they want to be treated special and not have to go through what everyone else does. Everything else is perceived to be true based on feelings, and the past, as you yourself for some reason brought up as if it bares any meaning for today. Older feminist scholars scoff at this type of thinking and have written books about it and show how the women that are in power today got there by pushing away talk of being a victim and using outside blame for not advancing.
Japan, never went through a civil rights movement nor have they had a feminist movement and women do not have equal social status yet magically, there are some female game makers there. Why? Umm...because, those few that actually chose to want to learn how to make games and got into the industry AND...key point coming up...were good at it...got hired.
Even 3rd wave feminists studies have shown that the fields that are lacking in women are lacking in women because women DONT TAKE THOSE CLASSES IN COLLEGE. And no, it isnt the fault of the patriarchy that a woman has chosen to study something else...women are NOT brainless and yes, they can make their own choices. Bad parenting is also not the patriarchy.
Nothing is going to change the way things are going because people are using their feelings as a basis of what is or is not actually happening. If there is sexism, its in a company, by a person and it needs to be found out. To say its an entire industry is some Illuminati believing level of paranoid conspiracy.
As long time feminist champion Christina Hoff Sommers once said, there is no group of men that get together and plan out how to keep women down, the ideals being pushed by gender activists make it sound like there is a concerted effort to maintain the evil patriarchy that is the convenient scapegoat always at fault for everything that goes wrong in todays feminists lives.
Personally, none of this should even be spoken about here, now. And wouldnt be if the article was just an article about a person in the gaming industry. Who cares if its a she or a he? Most gamers cant even name a single person that took part in the making of whatever game they are playing right now unless they are die-hard fans of the game.
Lets leave the gender activism where it belongs, on tumblr, and just have gaming articles about games and game makers.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Sure, things have improved... but equality? Hell no, that hasn't happened yet.