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  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    edited February 2016
    Brenics said:


    I'm sorry White Knights, but if this is the attitude of CIG developers, then you're in for a big disappointment in the end.  That is not how you publicly address legitimate concerns by your consumers.  It shows a lack of tact and professionalism rarely seen to be honest.

    That poor girl on the left is either thinking "why are you saying this" or "I hope there will be donuts left in the kitchen after this".  j/k

    Actually I don't think this group of people make any decisions about the direction of the game.  He's in the hotseat for his 10 minutes of fame while Chris Roberts is taking a bathroom break.  After this segment the dude went back to his job of cleaning the offices.


    Holy crap if you see the pictures of the guy when he first joined he gained about 100 lbs.

    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • thunderclesthundercles Member UncommonPosts: 510
    edited February 2016
    Brenics said:
    Funny how the only thing people on CR's side is calling people names, really sad this game has come to this!

    My view is any game should be every gamers right to talk it up or down depending how the game is. IMHO!

    Don't need to attack a group of people for how they see it!
    You are attacking people in this very same statement.
  • DaikuruDaikuru Member RarePosts: 797
    Talonsin said:
    Open your eyes. These guys are obviously not able to fulfill basic human functions like eating normally. They can't take care of themselves and you expect them to manage $100M?
    There is a bit of truth to that.  If you look at videos of Chris Roberts back in 2012 when he first started asking for money, he was much thinner.  If you look at the TWC video below of Chris walking down the hall at 6 seconds in, he looks terrible compared to 2012.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF19jYDzwqk

    Ben is a whole different story.  How that guy got picked to be the front man for PR videos is beyond me.
    Now we start judging people by their appearance? What have appearance to do with competence? Should they hire some hot chicks for their PR Videos instead?
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    - Albert Einstein


  • GrumpyHobbitGrumpyHobbit Member RarePosts: 1,220
    edited February 2016
    Ozreth said:
     has a cult like mentality around it
    Brenics said:
    very telling on the mind set of the people working over there, kind of sad really.
    Hubris, egomania, and obsessive micromanagement:  It starts at the top, and infects the ring of cronies that run interference for 'The Wizard of Roberts'.


    What do developers look like,  people who hang out in the Wal-Mart at 3:00 am? 

    What a total A-Hole! 
    Page 1 of this thread...

    Yeah Brenics, the CIG white knights are the only ones making personal statements !!!!
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    edited February 2016
    Daikuru said:
    Talonsin said:
    Open your eyes. These guys are obviously not able to fulfill basic human functions like eating normally. They can't take care of themselves and you expect them to manage $100M?
    There is a bit of truth to that.  If you look at videos of Chris Roberts back in 2012 when he first started asking for money, he was much thinner.  If you look at the TWC video below of Chris walking down the hall at 6 seconds in, he looks terrible compared to 2012.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF19jYDzwqk

    Ben is a whole different story.  How that guy got picked to be the front man for PR videos is beyond me.
    Now we start judging people by their appearance? What have appearance to do with competence? Should they hire some hot chicks for their PR Videos instead?
    Yes

    You can keep acting naive but almost every commercial has attractive people.  Almost all drug reps are crazy attractive to help sell drugs to physicians.  Almost all movies star attractive people because that is what people want to see.  Again, you can keep acting naive but the FACT is most products are sold using attractive people.  It is also the reason they use Sandi on many of their videos.

    Do you condemn sports illustrated for having a swim suit issue to sell sports magazines? Have you written them a letter asking them to use fat chicks?

    Lets also talk about Bens competence.  Ben is simply a mouthpiece for CIG,a spokesperson.  Much of what he has said has turned out to be false (not lies).  He simply says what he is told to say.  Why you think a fat person is better at being a spokesperson is beyond me.  Anyone could do Bens job and an attractive person doing it would bring in more sales.  I'm sorry you dont understand this. 


    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • DaikuruDaikuru Member RarePosts: 797
    Talonsin said:
    Daikuru said:
    Talonsin said:
    Open your eyes. These guys are obviously not able to fulfill basic human functions like eating normally. They can't take care of themselves and you expect them to manage $100M?
    There is a bit of truth to that.  If you look at videos of Chris Roberts back in 2012 when he first started asking for money, he was much thinner.  If you look at the TWC video below of Chris walking down the hall at 6 seconds in, he looks terrible compared to 2012.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF19jYDzwqk

    Ben is a whole different story.  How that guy got picked to be the front man for PR videos is beyond me.
    Now we start judging people by their appearance? What have appearance to do with competence? Should they hire some hot chicks for their PR Videos instead?
    Yes
    Yes to hot chicks?
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    - Albert Einstein


  • GrumpyHobbitGrumpyHobbit Member RarePosts: 1,220
    Talonsin said:

    Yes

    You can keep acting naive but almost every commercial has attractive people.  Almost all drug reps are crazy attractive to help sell drugs to physicians.  Almost all movies star attractive people because that is what people want to see.  Again, you can keep acting naive but the FACT is most products are sold using attractive people.  It is also the reason they use Sandi on many of their videos.
    I will use about the same level of factual truth here and hazard a guess that most products are sold by attractive people because stupid people respond better to such shallow marketing ploys. 
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Daikuru said:
    Talonsin said:
    Open your eyes. These guys are obviously not able to fulfill basic human functions like eating normally. They can't take care of themselves and you expect them to manage $100M?
    There is a bit of truth to that.  If you look at videos of Chris Roberts back in 2012 when he first started asking for money, he was much thinner.  If you look at the TWC video below of Chris walking down the hall at 6 seconds in, he looks terrible compared to 2012.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF19jYDzwqk

    Ben is a whole different story.  How that guy got picked to be the front man for PR videos is beyond me.
    Now we start judging people by their appearance? What have appearance to do with competence? Should they hire some hot chicks for their PR Videos instead?
    Since apparently you have never had a marketing class:

    "Did you know you can increase your sales by using pictures of attractive people using your product or service? It's true.

    Why is this? Well, first of all, it humanizes your product or service and prospects perceive you to be more professional and trustworthy. Again, perception is reality.

    Secondly, people like looking at attractive people. Big business has known this for years. Just look at how attractive those people are in magazine ads and on television commercials.

    You can also use this knowledge to your advantage on your business cards, brochures and website. This is especially true for small "mom and pop" businesses. If you're reasonably attractive, always include your photo on your website and marketing materials.

    The reverse also holds true. If you're not attractive, you're better off not using a picture. You risk losing customers and turning people off. "




    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197
    Imagine how many more ships CIG could have sold if they used attractive people to sell them!!
    Croberts take note!

    ..Cake..

  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Talonsin said:

    Yes

    You can keep acting naive but almost every commercial has attractive people.  Almost all drug reps are crazy attractive to help sell drugs to physicians.  Almost all movies star attractive people because that is what people want to see.  Again, you can keep acting naive but the FACT is most products are sold using attractive people.  It is also the reason they use Sandi on many of their videos.
    I will use about the same level of factual truth here and hazard a guess that most products are sold by attractive people because stupid people respond better to such shallow marketing ploys. 
    That could very well be true but it does not take away from the fact that attractive people work better at selling things than fat-nasty people.

    Personally I feel it is a sub-conscience thing that tells us if this person can not control his eating and is ok walking around in public looking like this then he is not fit to manage any part of my business.  While this is totally inaccurate, it is still how many of us process the information.
    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Talonsin said:
    Daikuru said:
    Talonsin said:
    Open your eyes. These guys are obviously not able to fulfill basic human functions like eating normally. They can't take care of themselves and you expect them to manage $100M?
    There is a bit of truth to that.  If you look at videos of Chris Roberts back in 2012 when he first started asking for money, he was much thinner.  If you look at the TWC video below of Chris walking down the hall at 6 seconds in, he looks terrible compared to 2012.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF19jYDzwqk

    Ben is a whole different story.  How that guy got picked to be the front man for PR videos is beyond me.
    Now we start judging people by their appearance? What have appearance to do with competence? Should they hire some hot chicks for their PR Videos instead?
    Yes

    You can keep acting naive but almost every commercial has attractive people.  Almost all drug reps are crazy attractive to help sell drugs to physicians.  Almost all movies star attractive people because that is what people want to see.  Again, you can keep acting naive but the FACT is most products are sold using attractive people.  It is also the reason they use Sandi on many of their videos.
    LOL I think people like John Candy (may he RIP) would laugh at you for saying that. Gilda Radner (May she RIP) would also laugh at you. Let us not forget Marty Feldman (May he RIP) would I think give you that long stare! :-D

    I don't think I ever called any of you names. I also think I may have called CR scammers so you have me there. But nope never called you guys names. 
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  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    edited February 2016
    Daikuru said:
    Talonsin said:
    Daikuru said:
    Talonsin said:
    Open your eyes. These guys are obviously not able to fulfill basic human functions like eating normally. They can't take care of themselves and you expect them to manage $100M?
    There is a bit of truth to that.  If you look at videos of Chris Roberts back in 2012 when he first started asking for money, he was much thinner.  If you look at the TWC video below of Chris walking down the hall at 6 seconds in, he looks terrible compared to 2012.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF19jYDzwqk

    Ben is a whole different story.  How that guy got picked to be the front man for PR videos is beyond me.
    Now we start judging people by their appearance? What have appearance to do with competence? Should they hire some hot chicks for their PR Videos instead?
    Yes
    Yes to hot chicks?
    Does it work for sports illustrated?  What do swimsuit models have to do with sports?  How many weatherpeople are attractive females?  Are they any better at telling the weather than fat people? NOPE but people enjoy looking at them. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y2pK_sGjNkhttp://
    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • HeraseHerase Member RarePosts: 993
    Brenics said:
    Funny how the only thing people on CR's side is calling people names, really sad this game has come to this!

    My view is any game should be every gamers right to talk it up or down depending how the game is. IMHO!

    Don't need to attack a group of people for how they see it!
    You can't pretend one side is insulting another, both have been the same. The entire community was labelled a cult, rabid fanboys, white knights, crazy, mad and whatever other nonsense.

    I agree, but some of these people have gone past the point of just, sharing their opinion. People are poking the bear and have been for several month, the bear reacts and these people turn round and pretend their victims and tell everyone "look at this crazy bear, so violent. I did nothing and I was attacked" What's even worse is most of these people are not even backers.

    Overall sharing opinion and feedback is good and they have said that's what they want, but when people are being destructive, rude and trolling, expect to be called out on it, don't play a victim, move on. If you've done nothing wrong the comment won't phase you, you will place yourself in the category of people they have praised for feedback . 

  • DaikuruDaikuru Member RarePosts: 797
    Talonsin said:
    Daikuru said:
    Talonsin said:
    Open your eyes. These guys are obviously not able to fulfill basic human functions like eating normally. They can't take care of themselves and you expect them to manage $100M?
    There is a bit of truth to that.  If you look at videos of Chris Roberts back in 2012 when he first started asking for money, he was much thinner.  If you look at the TWC video below of Chris walking down the hall at 6 seconds in, he looks terrible compared to 2012.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF19jYDzwqk

    Ben is a whole different story.  How that guy got picked to be the front man for PR videos is beyond me.
    Now we start judging people by their appearance? What have appearance to do with competence? Should they hire some hot chicks for their PR Videos instead?
    Since apparently you have never had a marketing class:

    "Did you know you can increase your sales by using pictures of attractive people using your product or service? It's true.

    Why is this? Well, first of all, it humanizes your product or service and prospects perceive you to be more professional and trustworthy. Again, perception is reality.

    Secondly, people like looking at attractive people. Big business has known this for years. Just look at how attractive those people are in magazine ads and on television commercials.

    You can also use this knowledge to your advantage on your business cards, brochures and website. This is especially true for small "mom and pop" businesses. If you're reasonably attractive, always include your photo on your website and marketing materials.

    The reverse also holds true. If you're not attractive, you're better off not using a picture. You risk losing customers and turning people off. "




    This is not a commercial on TV. Anyway, the Gaming Industry was always different. I truly believe that gamers are more tolerant. But i can speak only for myself and i dont care how the people in the video look like as long as they do their job, maybe its you who has a problem with guys like Ben, but i dont care.

    Also i dont think they have less income and sales just because Ben is in the Video and no hot chicks.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    - Albert Einstein


  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    The problem with SC on this site is simple.

    You can change the titles of the threads to say anything you want, but regardless, there is ONLY one discussion that ever takes place for this game. Every post turns into the continuation of the previous thread(s)

  • SmartySmartSmartySmart Member UncommonPosts: 312
    edited February 2016
    The problem with SC on this site is simple.

    You can change the titles of the threads to say anything you want, but regardless, there is ONLY one discussion that ever takes place for this game. Every post turns into the continuation of the previous thread(s)

    This

    And this:


    But we keep on coming back to it ;)
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    screecwe said:
    filmoret said:
    Basically the cost of the game was grossly underestimated by their leader who can do no wrong in a lot of player's eyes.  Yes they are producing some results and you can see they already have a lot of stuff in the current testing version.  It is clear there will be a game one day but the economical system and the pay2win aspects will probably be a main driving force.  I have predicted this game will cost the average person 100$ a month just to enjoy it but I could be wrong.  The reason I don't believe they will produce a healthy economic system is because of how Chris Roberts claimed he could make Star Citizen with 20 million dollars and he has over 100 million currently and that doesn't seem to be enough.  Someone who has missed the target goal by over 80 million dollars will not be very accurate making a healthy economy like Eve Online or GW2.
    This guy is totally unbiased, if you didn't realize it.
    Biased have nothing to do with being right or wrong. 
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Herase said:
    Brenics said:
    Funny how the only thing people on CR's side is calling people names, really sad this game has come to this!

    My view is any game should be every gamers right to talk it up or down depending how the game is. IMHO!

    Don't need to attack a group of people for how they see it!
    You can't pretend one side is insulting another, both have been the same. The entire community was labelled a cult, rabid fanboys, white knights, crazy, mad and whatever other nonsense.


    Soooooo, you're saying "Cultist", "Fanboy", and "White Knight" are not terms of endearment? Oh, I should go as far as to say that terms like "You people", "people like you", "your kind" are also not endearing. Not excluding myself from the name calling, because I've done my fair share, but it's a sad state that we're in. You can't say anything positive or be excited about something without being a white knight or a fanboy. You look at the tools we have at our disposal, take metacritic for example, which could be used to create unbiased, objective, information after years of screaming about how biased information has been or how corrupt it's been, and we get stuff like 10/10 - I'm just countering the zeros. or 0/10 - I hate EA WOW! That's something for the front of the box!

    *slow clap* We're doing it!!! We really are making things better *tear*


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  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Brenics said:
    Talonsin said:
    Daikuru said:
    Talonsin said:
    Open your eyes. These guys are obviously not able to fulfill basic human functions like eating normally. They can't take care of themselves and you expect them to manage $100M?
    There is a bit of truth to that.  If you look at videos of Chris Roberts back in 2012 when he first started asking for money, he was much thinner.  If you look at the TWC video below of Chris walking down the hall at 6 seconds in, he looks terrible compared to 2012.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF19jYDzwqk

    Ben is a whole different story.  How that guy got picked to be the front man for PR videos is beyond me.
    Now we start judging people by their appearance? What have appearance to do with competence? Should they hire some hot chicks for their PR Videos instead?
    Yes

    You can keep acting naive but almost every commercial has attractive people.  Almost all drug reps are crazy attractive to help sell drugs to physicians.  Almost all movies star attractive people because that is what people want to see.  Again, you can keep acting naive but the FACT is most products are sold using attractive people.  It is also the reason they use Sandi on many of their videos.
    LOL I think people like John Candy (may he RIP) would laugh at you for saying that. Gilda Radner (May she RIP) would also laugh at you. Let us not forget Marty Feldman (May he RIP) would I think give you that long stare! :-D

    What do a bunch of dead comedians have to do with attractive people selling products?  John Candy was never asked to endorse a product until he got famous.  Are you comparing John Candy to Ben?  Are you saying Ben is as famous as John Candy was when he was in his prime and actually got a few endorsement deals?  No one wanted John Candy to endorse their products until he became famous and gained a following and even then it was few and far between.  The same can be said for the other dead comedians you named.  I dont understand how you can use John Candy to refute the FACT that most marketing is done by attractive people.
    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    My another Talonsin said:
    Daikuru said:
    Talonsin said:
    Open your eyes. These guys are obviously not able to fulfill basic human functions like eating normally. They can't take care of themselves and you expect them to manage $100M?
    There is a bit of truth to that.  If you look at videos of Chris Roberts back in 2012 when he first started asking for money, he was much thinner.  If you look at the TWC video below of Chris walking down the hall at 6 seconds in, he looks terrible compared to 2012.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF19jYDzwqk

    Ben is a whole different story.  How that guy got picked to be the front man for PR videos is beyond me.
    Now we start judging people by their appearance? What have appearance to do with competence? Should they hire some hot chicks for their PR Videos instead?
    Since apparently you have never had a marketing class:

    "Did you know you can increase your sales by using pictures of attractive people using your product or service? It's true.

    Why is this? Well, first of all, it humanizes your product or service and prospects perceive you to be more professional and trustworthy. Again, perception is reality.

    Secondly, people like looking at attractive people. Big business has known this for years. Just look at how attractive those people are in magazine ads and on television commercials.

    You can also use this knowledge to your advantage on your business cards, brochures and website. This is especially true for small "mom and pop" businesses. If you're reasonably attractive, always include your photo on your website and marketing materials.

    The reverse also holds true. If you're not attractive, you're better off not using a picture. You risk losing customers and turning people off. "




    Well you know... this kind of Marketing is meant for Monkeys. There does exist a significant percentage of the human population that can see above it.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Ozreth said:
    So I don't follow this game regularly, and am not generally a fan of sci-fi games. However the thread titles always catch my attention and then I scroll through the threads and from what I can tell the game is a mess, possibly fraudulent and has a cult like mentality around it. I mean, are people really buying JPEG's of ships? From a distance I see a designed who had a HUGE budget and promised a lot and is continuing to fall behind and not release what was promised, on top of cancelling a lot of things.

    I would love a sort of FAQ or Primer type thing to get people up to date on what the deal with this is because its honestly really intriguing and looks to be the oddest MMORPG activity since original Darkfall, but this seems WAY worse.

    When was it supposed to be released?
    How much has been dumped?
    What exactly are people spending so much money on already with no game?
    WHY does it have such a huge following? Especially with so much going wrong?
    When is the projected release now?
    Etc. Etc.
    So, you have "questions".

    And you come here with a fully biased flame post asking said "questions".

    Pardon me but you're not really looking for any answers. Since you already have these in your mind.

    Next..
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619

    laserit said:
    My another Talonsin said:
    Well you know... this kind of Marketing is meant for Monkeys. There does exist a significant percentage of the human population that can see above it.
    Look!  Another tidbit of wisdom from Laserit. 

    "That kind of marketing is meant for monkeys". Sure it is and guess what, it still works.  Do you have any evidence that attractive people sell less product than fat-ugly people?  NOPE.  Will sports illustrated start having ulgy chicks in its swimsuit issue? NOPE.

    Thanks for stopping by with your "Holier than thou" attitude.


    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    The problem with SC on this site is simple.

    You can change the titles of the threads to say anything you want, but regardless, there is ONLY one discussion that ever takes place for this game. Every post turns into the continuation of the previous thread(s)

    The sad thing about most SC threads is, most people dont know the difference between a fact and an opinion.  Look at this very thread, I say attractive people sell more product which has been proven over and over again and what do I get as a rebuttal?  John Candy…

    People continue to say that stretch goals changed the game and are the reason for the years-long delay but Chris himself said in 2013:

    “… we don’t commit to adding features that would hold up the game’s ability to go “live” in a fully functional state,”

    But that is exactly what you are saying happened.  Fans need to admit that Chris was wrong and did indeed commit to adding features that would hold up the game for YEARS.  But they don’t.  They act like it was all part of the plan to release the game in 2018.

    Chris was again wrong when he said back in July of 2015 that:

    “In reality, we’re probably weeks off. We’re shooting to have FPS on the PTU round-about Gamescom or slightly after Gamescom. We’re really talking about people getting to play FPS in a matter of 3, 4, maybe 5 weeks.”

    But again, instead of acknowledging that Chris continues to make mistakes and mismanage the project, he is defended as doing no wrong. 

    Instead of acknowledging his issues Chris continues spouting features and dates because it helps sell the game and bring money in.  He even goes so far as to tell us that we are all stupid (my words) for not understanding how dates in the game industry work and he should have explained it better.  Dear Chris, how can you explain it better when you said:

    “… we don’t commit to adding features that would hold up the game’s ability to go “live” in a fully functional state,”

    Am I missing something?  Did I misread this in any way?  Is there some way this can be explained to say that it means you ARE indeed committing to add features that will hold up the release of the game?  And what about this:

    “We’re really talking about people getting to play FPS in a matter of 3, 4, maybe 5 weeks.”

    Did I again read this wrong?  Can you please rephrase in a way that makes 5 weeks means 6 months?

    Chris is supposed to be an industry veteran.  Shouldn’t he know not to continue saying things that he can not deliver on?  Not one single target date has ever been met on this game and yet the other side continues to refute that Chris has done anything wrong.  

    Chris has made mistakes, many more than I list here.  One side refuses to admit it.  The other side is just as bad saying the entire game is a scam and will never be released.  There is a game and it will eventually be released but it wont be the game we were all promised.  Sadly, both sides are mostly wrong.





    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Talonsin said:

    laserit said:
    My another Talonsin said:
    Well you know... this kind of Marketing is meant for Monkeys. There does exist a significant percentage of the human population that can see above it.
    Look!  Another tidbit of wisdom from Laserit. 

    "That kind of marketing is meant for monkeys". Sure it is and guess what, it still works.  Do you have any evidence that attractive people sell less product than fat-ugly people?  NOPE.  Will sports illustrated start having ulgy chicks in its swimsuit issue? NOPE.

    Thanks for stopping by with your "Holier than thou" attitude.


    It actually depends on what you're selling. Everything isn't written in stone. The best kind of Marketing is word of mouth.
     

    And you're welcome.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited February 2016
    This game is Darkfall all over again....An elitist fan base with an elitist company and it will produce a mediocre game guaranteed.
    I think the 'anti' community on SC is worse then the 'anti- community was with Darkfall and that was really bad.

    The reason I say that is because the 'anti-DF community at least didnt take it to a near legal level with false accusations regarding HR policies

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

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