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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    instead of a fancy door
    You mean the wooden door with some paint on it and the garage opener motor ?  ;-)


    Have fun
     I can tell from your comment you are so completely clueless as to what kind of work went into that door.  I seriously doubt someone went out and bought a garage door opener, painted a couple pieces of wood and just slapped that thing together for several hundred dollars. More of your spin and downplay on the throwing of monies around like candy.

    I can tell you from experience back in my construction days that a hell of slot of work went into that as far as labor AND the cost of the slide mechanism.
    It's actually quite possible for a few hundred dollars. Check out this build:


    It's an arduino along with a piston and a compressor. It's actually a relatively inexpensive build when compared to press they're probably getting for it. I don't know how long ago your construction days are, but with Raspberry Pi and Arduino, there are now very inexpensive solutions to what used to be complex builds. 

    However, it would appear that it actually is as simple a build as that, probably even less expensive, as it was confirmed on reddit. So why are you arguing? 

    Crazkanuk

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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    Kefo said:
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    instead of a fancy door
    You mean the wooden door with some paint on it and the garage opener motor ?  ;-)


    Have fun
    Lol yeah I'm sure that's just a wooden door with some paint on it. I will pull a you and ask for proof of your claims.
    Glad you asked:

    http://imperialnews.network/2016/04/reverse-the-verse-episode-90-liveblog/

    "[When did you get the new lobby door?] Just got it working yesterday. It’s been in there since they got there though. It’s made of wood, the same wood as a normal door. It’s just hooked up to a garage door opener. So not an expensive door."


    https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/4eyiri/clarifying_doorgate_just_a_wooden_door/

    "Clarified on RTV today.

    Just a regular wooden door with a garage door opener attached to it. Someone in RTV asked about the door.

    "Just got it working yesterday. It's been in there since they got there though. It's made of wood, the same wood as a normal door. It's just hooked up to a garage door opener. So not an expensive door."

    So not only does it create an amazing work atmosphere but it was relatively inexpensive to make."


    Have fun


  • rodarinrodarin Member EpicPosts: 2,611



    What's wrong when you are solving a problem, doing progress but additionally ask for more manpower? Why are they the wrong people? He nowhere did mention it or hid it in the words he spoke. You really weigh everyone of his words. 

    It does not matter... everyone hears what he wants to hear. That's the fantastic thing about language... you can interpret everything in the way it fits your mindset. 


    The underlying issue is WHY cant they get people to work on this game? For all its accolades it has more people leaving it than coming to it.

    GROUNDBREAKING 'stuff' should have people lined up to work on it (unless it is life threatening) but even then if it were truly groundbreaking in a 'major' field there would be plenty of people willing to risk it.

    That video is really kind of sad because its like he is begging people to work for this 'awesome' game. That would be like Kate Beckinsale having to beg some internet geek to go out with her (after she went to a convention with a sign around her neck say "please take me on a date''.
  • Adjuvant1Adjuvant1 Member RarePosts: 2,100
    I'm not ignoring your replies, I'm just not beating it more into the ground. Look, SC is broken, badly.

  • SmartySmartSmartySmart Member UncommonPosts: 312
    rodarin said:
    Distopia said:

    Exactly hence trying to paint this development as some do is disingenuous, like trying to compare it to Ark... That's what makes using the 5 year slogan look silly as well. It's also comical when the reactions come in, when folks try and use examples of truly complex designs and the time they take to develop. "but this is a crowdfunded game".. like that means such a game should be made in shorter time. As if it could. 
    The ORIGINAL criticism of this game was IT COULDNT BE DONE.

    Fast forward 5 years later and it hasnt been done. Despite the claims they keep making of rebuilding everything and still a work in progress, yeah no shit.

    The comparison is the guys that made ARK werent hubris filled clowns who hadnt made anything gaming related in 15 years. They made something they KNEW could be made. They didnt CLAIM to be able to make something (eventually) and ask people for millions of dollars to fund it. And still not have anything to sow for it other than a generic space instance you can fly some ships around in. And more or less controlled crashing as opposed to actual flying.

    The FACTS that they have deleted whole components of the original design and changed things to stuff already being done basically proves that the original critics were right. IT COULDNT BE DONE. They simply havent changed or cancelled the other stuff yet because they still have a little stall time left.

    ARK is still a different game and they have done stuff that hasnt been done before, at least tweaked existing stuff to a 'better' version. SC cant even claim that. Basically ARK made a better mouse trap. SC took a mouse trap apart and couldnt figure out how to even get it put back together again let alone make it better.
    Hey Mr. Caps Lock... read this

    http://fusion.net/story/42057/caps-lock/
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    Brenics said:
    Yeah I see everything CR says is truth, yet this is a lie https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/Employee-Review-Cloud-Imperium-Games-RVW10258385.htm Well he does say some nice things about working there. So they will say that is true but everything else in cons is lies.

    Have Fun!
    So we are back to "Glassdoor" again with its anonymous reviews that ANYONE can put in there ?

    With NO check if that person ever worked at CIG at all.  Thats so 2015 ....


    And despite that 2/3 of the reviews about CIG on Glassdoor are positive ;-)



    Have fun
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    rodarin said:
    The ORIGINAL criticism of this game was IT COULDNT BE DONE.

    Fast forward 5 years later and it hasnt been done.
    We are in November 2017 ?

    Darn ... someone stole me 1.5 years !! 


    Have fun
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited April 2016
    rodarin said:
    Distopia said:

    Exactly hence trying to paint this development as some do is disingenuous, like trying to compare it to Ark... That's what makes using the 5 year slogan look silly as well. It's also comical when the reactions come in, when folks try and use examples of truly complex designs and the time they take to develop. "but this is a crowdfunded game".. like that means such a game should be made in shorter time. As if it could. 
    The ORIGINAL criticism of this game was IT COULDNT BE DONE.

    Fast forward 5 years later and it hasnt been done. Despite the claims they keep making of rebuilding everything and still a work in progress, yeah no shit.

    The comparison is the guys that made ARK werent hubris filled clowns who hadnt made anything gaming related in 15 years. They made something they KNEW could be made. They didnt CLAIM to be able to make something (eventually) and ask people for millions of dollars to fund it. And still not have anything to sow for it other than a generic space instance you can fly some ships around in. And more or less controlled crashing as opposed to actual flying.

    The FACTS that they have deleted whole components of the original design and changed things to stuff already being done basically proves that the original critics were right. IT COULDNT BE DONE. They simply havent changed or cancelled the other stuff yet because they still have a little stall time left.

    ARK is still a different game and they have done stuff that hasnt been done before, at least tweaked existing stuff to a 'better' version. SC cant even claim that. Basically ARK made a better mouse trap. SC took a mouse trap apart and couldnt figure out how to even get it put back together again let alone make it better.
    Check Erillion's post above. Read the article he links to.

    They finished 64bit in 3D (!) space some months ago. This is a huge step.

    DS declared this transition from 32 to 64bit as impossible. So, gurus can be wrong after all.

    "..but in Florida it set alarm bells ringing in Derek Smart’s head.." Haha.. i wouldn't want to be nowhere near him when he got the news. :p

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    rodarin said:
    Distopia said:

    Exactly hence trying to paint this development as some do is disingenuous, like trying to compare it to Ark... That's what makes using the 5 year slogan look silly as well. It's also comical when the reactions come in, when folks try and use examples of truly complex designs and the time they take to develop. "but this is a crowdfunded game".. like that means such a game should be made in shorter time. As if it could. 
    The ORIGINAL criticism of this game was IT COULDNT BE DONE.

    Fast forward 5 years later and it hasnt been done. Despite the claims they keep making of rebuilding everything and still a work in progress, yeah no shit.

    The comparison is the guys that made ARK werent hubris filled clowns who hadnt made anything gaming related in 15 years. They made something they KNEW could be made. They didnt CLAIM to be able to make something (eventually) and ask people for millions of dollars to fund it. And still not have anything to sow for it other than a generic space instance you can fly some ships around in. And more or less controlled crashing as opposed to actual flying.

    The FACTS that they have deleted whole components of the original design and changed things to stuff already being done basically proves that the original critics were right. IT COULDNT BE DONE. They simply havent changed or cancelled the other stuff yet because they still have a little stall time left.

    ARK is still a different game and they have done stuff that hasnt been done before, at least tweaked existing stuff to a 'better' version. SC cant even claim that. Basically ARK made a better mouse trap. SC took a mouse trap apart and couldnt figure out how to even get it put back together again let alone make it better.
    What's funny is I almost took you at your word that I couldn't fly, shoot and drive in SC, I instead decided to look for any evidence to the contrary... Yeah we're done.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Kefo said:
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    instead of a fancy door
    You mean the wooden door with some paint on it and the garage opener motor ?  ;-)


    Have fun
    Lol yeah I'm sure that's just a wooden door with some paint on it. I will pull a you and ask for proof of your claims.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/4eyiri/clarifying_doorgate_just_a_wooden_door/
    I stand corrected. Thanks for the link.
  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Brenics said:
    Yeah I see everything CR says is truth, yet this is a lie https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/Employee-Review-Cloud-Imperium-Games-RVW10258385.htm Well he does say some nice things about working there. So they will say that is true but everything else in cons is lies.

    Have Fun!
    Why you come up with this now? We are talking about something completely different. But that's what the haters do... 

    But if you post this I can also post this:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/4f4cl8/its_back_to_using_glassdoor/
    Well you guys keep posting things CR has said and isn't even close to being in game. So my response would be what a ex worker says about CIG. Nothing more nothing less.

    Have Fun!
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

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    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    instead of a fancy door
    You mean the wooden door with some paint on it and the garage opener motor ?  ;-)


    Have fun
    Lol yeah I'm sure that's just a wooden door with some paint on it. I will pull a you and ask for proof of your claims.
    Glad you asked:

    http://imperialnews.network/2016/04/reverse-the-verse-episode-90-liveblog/

    "[When did you get the new lobby door?] Just got it working yesterday. It’s been in there since they got there though. It’s made of wood, the same wood as a normal door. It’s just hooked up to a garage door opener. So not an expensive door."


    https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/4eyiri/clarifying_doorgate_just_a_wooden_door/

    "Clarified on RTV today.

    Just a regular wooden door with a garage door opener attached to it. Someone in RTV asked about the door.

    "Just got it working yesterday. It's been in there since they got there though. It's made of wood, the same wood as a normal door. It's just hooked up to a garage door opener. So not an expensive door."

    So not only does it create an amazing work atmosphere but it was relatively inexpensive to make."


    Have fun


    Someone else beat you to it. No thanks for you!!
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    Kefo said:
    Someone else beat you to it. No thanks for you!!
    *** cries in a corner ***




    Have fun

  • DeathengerDeathenger Member UncommonPosts: 880
    CrazKanuk said:
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    instead of a fancy door
    You mean the wooden door with some paint on it and the garage opener motor ?  ;-)


    Have fun
     I can tell from your comment you are so completely clueless as to what kind of work went into that door.  I seriously doubt someone went out and bought a garage door opener, painted a couple pieces of wood and just slapped that thing together for several hundred dollars. More of your spin and downplay on the throwing of monies around like candy.

    I can tell you from experience back in my construction days that a hell of slot of work went into that as far as labor AND the cost of the slide mechanism.
    It's actually quite possible for a few hundred dollars. Check out this build:


    It's an arduino along with a piston and a compressor. It's actually a relatively inexpensive build when compared to press they're probably getting for it. I don't know how long ago your construction days are, but with Raspberry Pi and Arduino, there are now very inexpensive solutions to what used to be complex builds. 

    However, it would appear that it actually is as simple a build as that, probably even less expensive, as it was confirmed on reddit. So why are you arguing? 
     OK you got me there. The only video I saw was the one where it was working and the door appeared to go into the wall. 

    Looks like I'm wrong on this one. Apologies
     
  • SmartySmartSmartySmart Member UncommonPosts: 312
    Brenics said:
    Brenics said:
    Yeah I see everything CR says is truth, yet this is a lie https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/Employee-Review-Cloud-Imperium-Games-RVW10258385.htm Well he does say some nice things about working there. So they will say that is true but everything else in cons is lies.

    Have Fun!
    Why you come up with this now? We are talking about something completely different. But that's what the haters do... 

    But if you post this I can also post this:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/4f4cl8/its_back_to_using_glassdoor/
    Well you guys keep posting things CR has said and isn't even close to being in game. So my response would be what a ex worker says about CIG. Nothing more nothing less.

    Have Fun!
    Keep telling yourself that you wanted to contribute something meaningful to the discussion. I know what your intention is, was and sadly will probably ever be, Marty.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Erillion said:
    rodarin said:
    I have yet to see a SINGLE one of their claims actually come to fruition.
    64bit 3D space

    Do not believe me .. listen to him:
    http://massivelyop.com/2015/10/21/ascents-lead-dev-offers-insight-on-the-star-citizen-controversy/

    "I can’t tell you for sure how CIG has solved that problem, but I can tell you it looks like the studio has definitely solved it, based on its most recent gameplay videos. "


    Have fun


    He's not talking about 64 bit 3D space in the quote you pasted.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    CrazKanuk said:
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    instead of a fancy door
    You mean the wooden door with some paint on it and the garage opener motor ?  ;-)


    Have fun
     I can tell from your comment you are so completely clueless as to what kind of work went into that door.  I seriously doubt someone went out and bought a garage door opener, painted a couple pieces of wood and just slapped that thing together for several hundred dollars. More of your spin and downplay on the throwing of monies around like candy.

    I can tell you from experience back in my construction days that a hell of slot of work went into that as far as labor AND the cost of the slide mechanism.
    It's actually quite possible for a few hundred dollars. Check out this build:


    It's an arduino along with a piston and a compressor. It's actually a relatively inexpensive build when compared to press they're probably getting for it. I don't know how long ago your construction days are, but with Raspberry Pi and Arduino, there are now very inexpensive solutions to what used to be complex builds. 

    However, it would appear that it actually is as simple a build as that, probably even less expensive, as it was confirmed on reddit. So why are you arguing? 
     OK you got me there. The only video I saw was the one where it was working and the door appeared to go into the wall. 

    Looks like I'm wrong on this one. Apologies

    I know what you're thinking because I did too, "Will my wife let me do this?" 

    I'd want a pocket door, though. Keep it all in the wall. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    edited April 2016
    That guy did it the cheap way, what they have wouldn't be cheap to me when trying to impress investors, but I will let you go on it. The problem is why are they doing all this updating of offices? Would only be to impress investors that do not want one thing to do with them. Put the money in the development and maybe in 3 to 4 years they will end up with some type of SC Engine. 

    Ask yourself why is everything on hold? To me it is because the CryTek engine is for single player games. So after 5 years they couldn't get it working in a SC PU so now they are hanging all their eggs on a single player game. 

    Just to point out majority of backers want SC not SQ42.
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • NevereverlandNevereverland Member UncommonPosts: 161
    This game will be the father of all p2p games worse than s2 browser games so no i wont even download to try and i reccomend everyone to do the same.
  • Turrican187Turrican187 Member UncommonPosts: 787
    SmartySmart said:
    [...]
    Wha gives you the insight that the links are completely and utterly irrelevant? Did the procedural damage, GIM, GOST, 64 bit double precision etc. cc. all been cancelled or completely redone?
    [...]
    The procedural damage is a mesh slicer and has been around for years now, quite easy to implement.
    64bit double precision that's a funny thing because they are selling a multiplicator for a power-off in fact they are using 33Bit precision in every axis, more wouldn't make sense because the lag between CPU and GPU would be unbearable - alway remember the GPU is made for 32bit operations, you can pass 64bit to it but at a much slower rate - this is a hardware related problem no software can update your bridges to 64bit.
    Every moving pivot (including a cup on your pilots desk) has to be calculated and if there are to many the discrepancy between CPU and GPU would end in character jiggle, warps and fall throughs.

    In other words, there is a reason to not go this way as a developer.
    And remember precision has nothing to do with how far you can look or travel, it has to do with jiggling and wiggling things that are further away in your current LOD (Level of Detail) from the Vector3.zero

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    The cake is a lie.

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    Kefo said:
    Erillion said:
    rodarin said:
    I have yet to see a SINGLE one of their claims actually come to fruition.
    64bit 3D space

    Do not believe me .. listen to him:
    http://massivelyop.com/2015/10/21/ascents-lead-dev-offers-insight-on-the-star-citizen-controversy/

    "I can’t tell you for sure how CIG has solved that problem, but I can tell you it looks like the studio has definitely solved it, based on its most recent gameplay videos. "


    Have fun


    He's not talking about 64 bit 3D space in the quote you pasted.

    "On the status of the Star Citizen project: A professional opinion from Ascent: The Space Game’s James Hicks

    The technical concerns

    In June this year, Cloud Imperium Games made an offhand announcement to the effect that it had almost finished getting its game engine to operate in 64bit 3D space. To CIG’s fanbase, this sounded like a cool new development (which it sure is!), but in Florida it set alarm bells ringing in Derek Smart’s head, here in Australia it made me very concerned, and I can guess that somewhere in England, if he heard it, David Braben responded with something like, “Come again?”

    With the absence of such an announcement until that time, I had been assuming CIG either wasn’t going to need 64bit 3-D space or had done it already and wasn’t going to announce it.

    If 64bit 3-D space is something you need, and you don’t have it, it’s a complete project killer. Without a solution for 32bit vs. 64bit 3-D positioning, your engine will not have enough accuracy to display spaceships in a steady position within a large environment. This is one of the core reasons games usually avoid truly huge environments, and if you are going to “go big,” you run into problems immediately. Between frames, objects will appear to shift positions. Close to the game engine’s “0,0,0,” the effect is so small you can’t see it (less than a pixel). Get a little further away and your spaceship will seem to vibrate a little. Further still and it wiggles. Further again and it’s jittering all over the place — ugly and unplayable.

    On the other hand, with 64bits to work with, you can be accurate a huge distance from “0,0,0” — big enough, depending on your implementation, to work with a full-sized star system like ours, as a matter of fact.

    The problem is that GPUs are crap at 64bit calculations. You either need to accept hideous performance (accept the unacceptable) or need to be painting a 32bit picture for the GPU, a snapshot based on the larger 64bit picture your game engine has… every frame. If this sounds complex, that’s because it is. Deciding to go 64bit has ramifications all down the line of your project. It complicates absolutely everything that comes afterwards.

    And that’s why announcing that you’re almost ready to do it, six months after your initial projected completion date, sets off alarms in the heads of people who’ve been through this issue before.

    Frankly, right after the announcement, discussion about Star Citizen went right off the rails. It’s now devolved into name calling and “lawyers at ten paces at dawn!!!!1” and I’ve got no interest in that. Chris Roberts and Derek Smart are two of my heroes. Listening to them fight, I feel like a child hiding while his parents scream at each other. It’s ugly, it’s off message for both of them, and I wish they’d cut it out.

    So below, I’m going to continue the discussion from where it left the rails and talk about the technology challenges Cloud Imperium are tackling and what I can say about the project, as a somewhat informed outsider." Etc.

    For "not talking about 64 bit 3D space" he is talking quite a lot about it (and i posted only part of it).


    Have fun


  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Brenics said:
    That guy did it the cheap way, what they have wouldn't be cheap to me when trying to impress investors, but I will let you go on it. The problem is why are they doing all this updating of offices? Would only be to impress investors that do not want one thing to do with them. Put the money in the development and maybe in 3 to 4 years they will end up with some type of SC Engine. 

    Ask yourself why is everything on hold? To me it is because the CryTek engine is for single player games. So after 5 years they couldn't get it working in a SC PU so now they are hanging all their eggs on a single player game. 

    Just to point out majority of backers want SC not SQ42.

    It could be that they're looking to impress investors, but it's equally for employees. I go back to the mural. It's a relatively inexpensive use of resources they're working on anyway which makes someone proud enough to post it online. If CIG needs anything right now it's to create a positive environment. 

    As an investor, would you be impressed by someone squandering money? I think that an investor would be much more interested in what proprietary tech they have, what are the proposed solutions to current problems, and what their road map is. Chances are CIG wouldn't be looking for someone to invest $1 million, if they would want to bring on an investor at all. Remember the last time this went down, Microsoft put the brakes on all innovation, stripped Freelancer to it's basic parts, and pushed it out the door. That's a huge risk. However, taking on an investor is, at least, less risky than selling majority. 

    As for the last quote, that's a cool stat. Any reference? Personally, I'm waiting on SQ42. SC is nice, but I'm much more story-oriented. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • GrumpyHobbitGrumpyHobbit Member RarePosts: 1,220
    This game will be the father of all p2p games worse than s2 browser games so no i wont even download to try and i reccomend everyone to do the same.
    In other news the Wright brothers have proposed the idea of a vehicle that can soar into the skies. Join us at the local park where we intend to gather into a large crowd to laugh at those crazy fools!
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited April 2016
    Kefo said:
    Erillion said:
    rodarin said:
    I have yet to see a SINGLE one of their claims actually come to fruition.
    64bit 3D space

    Do not believe me .. listen to him:
    http://massivelyop.com/2015/10/21/ascents-lead-dev-offers-insight-on-the-star-citizen-controversy/

    "I can’t tell you for sure how CIG has solved that problem, but I can tell you it looks like the studio has definitely solved it, based on its most recent gameplay videos. "


    Have fun


    He's not talking about 64 bit 3D space in the quote you pasted.
    Are you telling us that you are this narrow minded and biased that you won't spend some minutes to read a fully relevant article ?

    Almost the entire read is about the transition from 32 to 64bit 3D space. Something DS said it could not be done.

    The solved problem talked about in Erillion's quote is exactly this.

    In some ways i feel for you and the rest of the squad. You see, the linked article fully discredits everything the haters and DS babbled about over the past months.
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    So I'm kinda lost after launching my ship and the likes i just flew around the station a few times and said well what now?  I don't know how to hyper jump or shoot weapons.  I guess I'm suppose to spend an hour trying to figure out the controls.  Not gonna happen.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
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