taught me to share a lot less personal info with gaming acquaintances.
A great basic rule of thumb for living in today's world, in general -- not just internet related. It's best to just assume everyone you meet is potentially a psychopath these days.
While they can call police and sue those people for murder threat , use it as PR isn't something they should do . Both the people who use murder threat and the developers upset me .
I'm afraid the level of immaturity or lack of empathy inherent in people making death threats, based on missed deadlines for computer games, is at such a level - that no amount of appealing to their humanity will change anything.
In this case, I fear only the hard way is the path to wisdom.
Long ago I had someone threaten to come to my home town and hurt my daughter since I kicked him from the guild.
Was my first MMORPG (L1) and guild leadership role and taught me to share a lot less personal info with gaming acquaintances.
So I quickly got a taste of the craziness out there. (NC quickly removed the offender)
Wow sorry to hear that.
That is pretty awful. I've gotten plenty of hate messages on XBL and PS4 as well as my fair share of trash talk on MMOs, but nobody has known me well enough to specifically threaten me or anyone I've been associated with.
Even when they're empty threats nobody needs to have that happen. One crazy out there might just be the one to try it.
I read the news on The Verge as well and yeah its really freaky how some players can say that to him and its just bec. of the game that got delayed those psychos...
Keep in mind that it's easy to make threats (be it death or other) safely hidden behind a computer screen. Most of those "wannabee badasses" would just lick your boots face to face. I usually don't take that crap too seriously.
Long ago I had someone threaten to come to my home town and hurt my daughter since I kicked him from the guild.
Was my first MMORPG (L1) and guild leadership role and taught me to share a lot less personal info with gaming acquaintances.
So I quickly got a taste of the craziness out there. (NC quickly removed the offender)
You've been nice, he'd have ended with the police at his door with me.
Well, being my first online game, it was all rather new to me. Fortunately everthing was text chat so NC could view what was said in the chat logs.
He even created a new account and reached out again trying to apologize and get me to ask NC to unban his account. I didn't reply, just reported him again and NC banned that account as well.
I later found out an NC moderator (remember when games had those?) was a member of my blood pledge. Never knew if that was random chance or because of the incident.
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I read some petty appalling comments in some of the threads regarding the NMS delay.
All the fire and fury a 12-year old can muster when a "promise is broken". No doubt some of them were physically older than 12 years, but not mentally older, it seems.
I see quite a few comments in this thread trivializing the issue. Easy to do if you're a nobody who gets the occasional hate message after a game of CS:GO, that's easy to laugh off. But when you're a public personality with a lot of visibility, it's a different matter altogether. Just ask John Smedley...
And as for those who say "developers should not be surprised about these messages, given the way they treat their fans" ! Wtf ? Those kind of comments are as tasteless and immature as the death threats themselves. That's on the level of "women should expect to be raped if they dress provocatively" !
I've been threatened in game before.. some of the people who played Darkfall were pretty creepy...
The most memorable time was when I was grinding in the safest solo spot by a guardtower in Chillbourne when I wouldn't share the spawn with anybody and chased people out by attacking them every 10 seconds (to keep from losing alignment) which would work, but people started threatening me and then crashed the server when he said something along the lines of "we are tracking you in real life right now, just watch". When the server came back up I went back to the spawn and did it again then he said to me again a warning and crashed the server again. There were several ways to crash the server, it was just a mind trick they were attempting on me, but still after awhile that stuff starts messing with your head. Especially having spies in the clan who would be working for an enemy clan... not very fun to be a clan leader when that game first came out because of all the creeps and deception. Some would have the goals of stealing and selling stuff online so much that I had to second guess everybody for a while..
People call people names and stuff in FFA PVP all of the time but I must admit that Darkfall was beyond pretty damn evil at times.. and not good for the mind from long exposure.
Here is one example of some of the people we had to deal with:
NEWS FLASH!"A bank was robbed the other day and a man opened fire on the customers being held hostage. One customer zig-zag sprinted until he found cover. When questioned later he explained that he was a hardcore gamer and knew just what to do!" Download my music for free! I release several albums per month as part of project "Thee Untitled" . .. some video game music remixes and cover songs done with instruments in there as well! http://theeuntitled.bandcamp.com/Check out my roleplaying blog, collection of fictional short stories, and fantasy series... updated on a blog for now until I am finished!https://childrenfromtheheavensbelow.blogspot.com/Watch me game on occasion or make music... https://www.twitch.tv/spoontheeuntitled and subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvqULn678VrF3OasgnbsyA
I read some petty appalling comments in some of the threads regarding the NMS delay.
All the fire and fury a 12-year old can muster when a "promise is broken". No doubt some of them were physically older than 12 years, but not mentally older, it seems.
I see quite a few comments in this thread trivializing the issue. Easy to do if you're a nobody who gets the occasional hate message after a game of CS:GO, that's easy to laugh off. But when you're a public personality with a lot of visibility, it's a different matter altogether. Just ask John Smedley...
And as for those who say "developers should not be surprised about these messages, given the way they treat their fans" ! Wtf ? Those kind of comments are as tasteless and immature as the death threats themselves. That's on the level of "women should expect to be raped if they dress provocatively" !
A death threat without the actual action is not as bad as having a history of total disrespect to players in most cases.
How do you distinguish between a threat without intent and a threat with intent?
A death threat without the actual action is not as bad as having a history of total disrespect to players in most cases. If someone is getting bullied and tries to scare the bully into stopping by a death threat, who would you blame more?
Eh, what?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I read some petty appalling comments in some of the threads regarding the NMS delay.
All the fire and fury a 12-year old can muster when a "promise is broken". No doubt some of them were physically older than 12 years, but not mentally older, it seems.
I see quite a few comments in this thread trivializing the issue. Easy to do if you're a nobody who gets the occasional hate message after a game of CS:GO, that's easy to laugh off. But when you're a public personality with a lot of visibility, it's a different matter altogether. Just ask John Smedley...
And as for those who say "developers should not be surprised about these messages, given the way they treat their fans" ! Wtf ? Those kind of comments are as tasteless and immature as the death threats themselves. That's on the level of "women should expect to be raped if they dress provocatively" !
A death threat without the actual action is not as bad as having a history of total disrespect to players in most cases. If someone is getting bullied and tries to scare the bully into stopping by a death threat, who would you blame more?
No.
There is NO justification for tantrums and immature ranting. Ever. That's just evidence of lack of self-control and a total disregard of the consequences.
Most people who spew filth on the internet do so because they're quite convinced that nothing will happen to them. They believe they can do the worst imaginable, and then, IF anything happens, just hide behind "I didn't really mean that, so you can't punish me".
In RL, many frustrated teenagers will scream "I hate you !" at a parent that disciplines them. On the internet, that becomes "I hate you... and I hope you die in a fire !"
1) Idiots being idiots as is usual for the general human population. 2) E-fame; Internet attention whores looking for some sympathy clicks.
Has no one ever had anyone (particular kids) say "youre dead," "ill kill you," "hope you die" etc etc? Worst they do is beat you up after school? Ok now add in anonymity and millions of extra people you are exposed to on the internet. Done. Thats all. Well... there is also the fact that millennials are the biggest wimps (for lack of a better word synonymous with cats) in human history desperately trying to validate their existence by the amount of "likes" they get from behind their computer.
Those "threats" have the same chance at being just as empty as they were before the internet. You want to take the time to report them to FBI or Twitter? Knock yourself out. However publishing them in your blog (Kotaku, Sarkeesian, and other professional victims like them) is obvious push to get attention or support. "Omg, im being threatened, im going to sleep at a friends house because im so scared, please follow me or give me more money."
Pretty much anyone with any sort of e-fame and a controversial message will get threats now-a-days. Be they politicians, blog writers, developers or what ever... it happens. And no amount of whining, crying, attacks, or forums posts will change it.
A lot of frustrated PVP gankers are the ones doing this despicable thing, you see casual players we dont mind, our approach to gaming is different, we play to relax and kick back and forget the crap around us, PVPers gankers play games to take their frustrations and anger against others.
Pretty much anyone with any sort of e-fame and a controversial message will get threats now-a-days. Be they politicians, blog writers, developers or what ever... it happens. And no amount of whining, crying, attacks, or forums posts will change it.
In Pakistan, several controversial bloggers received death threats on the internet.
Some of them were subsequently hacked to death with machetes...
Pretty much anyone with any sort of e-fame and a controversial message will get threats now-a-days. Be they politicians, blog writers, developers or what ever... it happens. And no amount of whining, crying, attacks, or forums posts will change it.
In Pakistan, several controversial bloggers received death threats on the internet.
Some of them were subsequently hacked to death with machetes...
And in the US, a university professor was just shot and killed by one of their students over grades.
All too often, there is far too thin a line between such extreme words - and action.
Hence, why such verbal threatening cannot nor should not be tolerated.
I read some petty appalling comments in some of the threads regarding the NMS delay.
All the fire and fury a 12-year old can muster when a "promise is broken". No doubt some of them were physically older than 12 years, but not mentally older, it seems.
I see quite a few comments in this thread trivializing the issue. Easy to do if you're a nobody who gets the occasional hate message after a game of CS:GO, that's easy to laugh off. But when you're a public personality with a lot of visibility, it's a different matter altogether. Just ask John Smedley...
And as for those who say "developers should not be surprised about these messages, given the way they treat their fans" ! Wtf ? Those kind of comments are as tasteless and immature as the death threats themselves. That's on the level of "women should expect to be raped if they dress provocatively" !
A death threat without the actual action is not as bad as having a history of total disrespect to players in most cases. If someone is getting bullied and tries to scare the bully into stopping by a death threat, who would you blame more?
No.
There is NO justification for tantrums and immature ranting. Ever. That's just evidence of lack of self-control and a total disregard of the consequences.
Most people who spew filth on the internet do so because they're quite convinced that nothing will happen to them. They believe they can do the worst imaginable, and then, IF anything happens, just hide behind "I didn't really mean that, so you can't punish me".
In RL, many frustrated teenagers will scream "I hate you !" at a parent that disciplines them. On the internet, that becomes "I hate you... and I hope you die in a fire !"
Had to repeat this in bold. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR SUCH BEHAVIOR - PERIOD. WE SHOULD, AS A SOCIETY, NOT CONDONE THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.
I've seen this several times over the years. They announced a delay for Hellgate: London of about 3 weeks and LOTS of players were up in arms. All of us testing the game were very happy to see that delay! The game was far from ready. I would have liked to see a 6-8 month delay, but apparently 3 weeks is all the devs could get from the publisher...
Age of Conan delayed about 6 weeks before release for a few weeks. If they were smart, they would have delayed about 4 more weeks and redid the content for a level 60 or 65 cap. As it was the level grind from 65 to 80 was agonizing, and left me unwilling to do that for more that one character. Once again the fan base (in the millions for this game) was very vocal about their disapproval. I'm not sure there were any death threats, but it would not surprise me.
I could go on and on. The point is that I am glad those developers cared about the fan base enough to keep working on the game before release. I wish they had delayed longer with the above mentioned games.
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Both the people who use murder threat and the developers upset me .
In this case, I fear only the hard way is the path to wisdom.
Even when they're empty threats nobody needs to have that happen. One crazy out there might just be the one to try it.
and yeah its really freaky how some players can say that to him and its just bec. of the game that got delayed
those psychos...
He even created a new account and reached out again trying to apologize and get me to ask NC to unban his account. I didn't reply, just reported him again and NC banned that account as well.
I later found out an NC moderator (remember when games had those?) was a member of my blood pledge. Never knew if that was random chance or because of the incident.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
All the fire and fury a 12-year old can muster when a "promise is broken". No doubt some of them were physically older than 12 years, but not mentally older, it seems.
I see quite a few comments in this thread trivializing the issue. Easy to do if you're a nobody who gets the occasional hate message after a game of CS:GO, that's easy to laugh off. But when you're a public personality with a lot of visibility, it's a different matter altogether. Just ask John Smedley...
And as for those who say "developers should not be surprised about these messages, given the way they treat their fans" ! Wtf ? Those kind of comments are as tasteless and immature as the death threats themselves. That's on the level of "women should expect to be raped if they dress provocatively" !
The most memorable time was when I was grinding in the safest solo spot by a guardtower in Chillbourne when I wouldn't share the spawn with anybody and chased people out by attacking them every 10 seconds (to keep from losing alignment) which would work, but people started threatening me and then crashed the server when he said something along the lines of "we are tracking you in real life right now, just watch". When the server came back up I went back to the spawn and did it again then he said to me again a warning and crashed the server again. There were several ways to crash the server, it was just a mind trick they were attempting on me, but still after awhile that stuff starts messing with your head. Especially having spies in the clan who would be working for an enemy clan... not very fun to be a clan leader when that game first came out because of all the creeps and deception. Some would have the goals of stealing and selling stuff online so much that I had to second guess everybody for a while..
People call people names and stuff in FFA PVP all of the time but I must admit that Darkfall was beyond pretty damn evil at times.. and not good for the mind from long exposure.
Here is one example of some of the people we had to deal with:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100130005458/http://www.scarybadguys.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61
NEWS FLASH! "A bank was robbed the other day and a man opened fire on the customers being held hostage. One customer zig-zag sprinted until he found cover. When questioned later he explained that he was a hardcore gamer and knew just what to do!" Download my music for free! I release several albums per month as part of project "Thee Untitled" . .. some video game music remixes and cover songs done with instruments in there as well! http://theeuntitled.bandcamp.com/ Check out my roleplaying blog, collection of fictional short stories, and fantasy series... updated on a blog for now until I am finished! https://childrenfromtheheavensbelow.blogspot.com/ Watch me game on occasion or make music... https://www.twitch.tv/spoontheeuntitled and subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvqULn678VrF3OasgnbsyA
That's right, you can't.
That's why your statement is ludicrous.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This isn't a signature, you just think it is.
There is NO justification for tantrums and immature ranting. Ever. That's just evidence of lack of self-control and a total disregard of the consequences.
Most people who spew filth on the internet do so because they're quite convinced that nothing will happen to them. They believe they can do the worst imaginable, and then, IF anything happens, just hide behind "I didn't really mean that, so you can't punish me".
In RL, many frustrated teenagers will scream "I hate you !" at a parent that disciplines them.
On the internet, that becomes "I hate you... and I hope you die in a fire !"
1) Idiots being idiots as is usual for the general human population.
2) E-fame; Internet attention whores looking for some sympathy clicks.
Has no one ever had anyone (particular kids) say "youre dead," "ill kill you," "hope you die" etc etc? Worst they do is beat you up after school? Ok now add in anonymity and millions of extra people you are exposed to on the internet. Done. Thats all. Well... there is also the fact that millennials are the biggest wimps (for lack of a better word synonymous with cats) in human history desperately trying to validate their existence by the amount of "likes" they get from behind their computer.
Those "threats" have the same chance at being just as empty as they were before the internet. You want to take the time to report them to FBI or Twitter? Knock yourself out. However publishing them in your blog (Kotaku, Sarkeesian, and other professional victims like them) is obvious push to get attention or support. "Omg, im being threatened, im going to sleep at a friends house because im so scared, please follow me or give me more money."
Pretty much anyone with any sort of e-fame and a controversial message will get threats now-a-days. Be they politicians, blog writers, developers or what ever... it happens. And no amount of whining, crying, attacks, or forums posts will change it.
This kind of loud mouth flagrant verbal diarrhea should not be tolerated.
Threats of violence and imminent criminal activity are illegal in the US.
Woefully, common sense and basic human decency are in pretty short supply. Case in point - popularity of Donald Trump.
Fucking millennials, this country was bad enough with all of the low IQ redneck fucks and gangster wannabes.
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Make their dumbass parents pay for their month stay in jail, problem solved!
Some of them were subsequently hacked to death with machetes...
All too often, there is far too thin a line between such extreme words - and action.
Hence, why such verbal threatening cannot nor should not be tolerated.
Age of Conan delayed about 6 weeks before release for a few weeks. If they were smart, they would have delayed about 4 more weeks and redid the content for a level 60 or 65 cap. As it was the level grind from 65 to 80 was agonizing, and left me unwilling to do that for more that one character. Once again the fan base (in the millions for this game) was very vocal about their disapproval. I'm not sure there were any death threats, but it would not surprise me.
I could go on and on. The point is that I am glad those developers cared about the fan base enough to keep working on the game before release. I wish they had delayed longer with the above mentioned games.
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!