So, How's Windows 10 now?

Bloodaxes

Microsoft has been bugging me so much with notifications to upgrade to windows 10 from my 8.1 that it's getting way out of hand.

So let's put it straight to the point before I go to sleep:

For a gamer, how is windows 10 now compared to the previous operating systems? With games announced in E3 being exclusive to windows 10, as much as I don't want to, I'm thinking on the upgrade.

So help me out folks. I'll check this thread tomorrow when I wake up.

Thanks

Albatroes

Garbage, but its the future and will share some exclusive games with xbox

Rusque

It's the only good version of Windows Microsoft has ever produced. The rest were appalling and I only ever put up with them because of games.

galphar

It's more of a tablet OS than a PC OS. It takes up a lot of processor and RAM also. I upgraded last month but had to go back to Win 7 because my rig isn't up to standards to run Win 10 efficiently.

Mikeha

Amazing as always.

Ridelynn

It's meh.

Not like you really have a choice other than Windows if you want to play most games. I did like 7 better, but there are a lot of things that 10 does better than 7 - like supporting the latest hardware, DX12, better optimizations for SSDs, etc.

Deivos

It works and it's stable (in relative context to a Windows OS).

bonzoso21

I think it's the best version since XP and don't really understand why so many people are against upgrading from 7/8 if it's still free besides stubbornness and a general hate towards Microsoft.

Lokero

bonzoso21 said:

I think it's the best version since XP and don't really understand why so many people are against upgrading from 7/8 if it's still free besides stubbornness and a general hate towards Microsoft.

I think alot of it is on principle.  The way MS literally tried to force the upgrade down everyone's throats, or up their butts if they had their back turned long enough for them to sneak it in.

The whole scenario has just left a bad taste in people's mouths.  It has shown a ton of invasive and arguably unethical behavior on MS's part.
That, and of course, how much most people hate the new features that have to be turned off the hard way.

I think if it weren't for the invasive and downright tasteless attitude MS's leadership has shown they have these days, most of the OS wouldn't bother people.  MS's current leadership is just mind-blowingly aggressive with all their new stuff.

From what I understand, the biggest problem is the automatic updates.  Last I heard, there was no "simple" way to deal with Win10 choosing to update whenever it feels like it in the Home edition of Win10.

Dullahan

I haven't upgraded because 7 works well. It was the best windows OS ever and does everything except dx12. When I get a game that really makes use of dx12 in the coming years, I may consider 10, but until then I simply see no reason to upgrade.

Octagon7711

Automatic updates and Microsoft had Windows 10 upgrading computers on it's own.  The story was that people would wake up in the morning to find that Windows had upgraded from 7 or 8 up to 10 all on it's own.  A lot of people don't like the keylogger installed in Win 10 and a few computer experts I know are sticking with Win 7 because they don't like how the system monitors everything you do.  I saw a few videos about how it deletes pirated software on it's own which is interesting.

I have it on my gaming PC and so far it plays games well both old and new.

mbrodie

window's 10 has been amazing since insider previews before it was released... i don't get all the hate performance is great, plays games great, been using it for years now with no issues.

Volgore

Is there by now a way to TOTALLY switch off all privacy intrusion/phoning home and use it like a regular OS instead of a systemwide spyware?

There are multiple tools to switch off all that, but then i read that some of these suspect "features" are so deeply integrated that they i.e. bypass your firewall and/or you just can't disable them.

adam_nox

Rusque said:

It's the only good version of Windows Microsoft has ever produced. The rest were appalling and I only ever put up with them because of games.

That's seriously too funny.  The number of tweaks you have to make for windows 10 to act like an OS for someone with an IQ over 80 is still higher than that of 7 and even XP.  They went overboard with 8 and learned a little, but it could still be better.  I just upgraded a few days ago and there's so many things I'm surprised it can't or won't do, given how much time they've had.  

For one multiple monitor support is still shabby.

Two, the start screen, something they are so proud of, is non-functional half the time with tiles that won't alert or update, and the inability to just have your files in front by hitting the windows key.  You have to either go to another folder, minimize everything to show desktop, or some BS.  

They've changed the wording and ease of general file navigation in an attempt still held over from windows 8 to force people to interact with their PCs on a dumb monkey level.

Splash welcome screen?  GTFO

Edge browser, does it even have extensions yet?

Outside of some shell changes and completely arbitrary ability to use dx12 and share games with xbox, it's windows 7.  It's still freakin windows 7.  

Let me guess, if you defend this reiteration process they use, you want me to give examples of how it could be different?

Well let's see, they want to protect the platform as one for gaming, so maybe instead of incorporating a windows store and data collection as privacy invasion and cash grabs, how about you allow for a protected mode of the OS that prevents piracy?  Or if you are going to be dumb, go all the way, and do it in a user friendly way and model it after android.

Get rid of all the registry crap, build something new from the ground up that is robust and simplistic enough to not get corrupted by little 13 year old with nothing better to do than spread malware.

Make it a cloud OS, where you deploy once on a main PC, then optionally can deploy thin versions to your mobile devices and laptops, so everything is constantly in sync?

I can do this all day.  It's 2016 and this is some sad stuff.  Without ecosystems and cross promotions, apple and microsoft would be out of biz, and google would be in trouble.

Nightlite

Windows 7 users I can give a little slack to for not upgrading.. but a Windows 8.1 questioning it?? You will love it more than most!


Pair it with other windows devices and you will be amazed.

Rusque

adam_nox said:

Rusque said:

It's the only good version of Windows Microsoft has ever produced. The rest were appalling and I only ever put up with them because of games.

That's seriously too funny.  The number of tweaks you have to make for windows 10 to act like an OS for someone with an IQ over 80 is still higher than that of 7 and even XP.  They went overboard with 8 and learned a little, but it could still be better.  I just upgraded a few days ago and there's so many things I'm surprised it can't or won't do, given how much time they've had.  

For one multiple monitor support is still shabby.

Two, the start screen, something they are so proud of, is non-functional half the time with tiles that won't alert or update, and the inability to just have your files in front by hitting the windows key.  You have to either go to another folder, minimize everything to show desktop, or some BS.  

They've changed the wording and ease of general file navigation in an attempt still held over from windows 8 to force people to interact with their PCs on a dumb monkey level.

Splash welcome screen?  GTFO

Edge browser, does it even have extensions yet?

Outside of some shell changes and completely arbitrary ability to use dx12 and share games with xbox, it's windows 7.  It's still freakin windows 7.  

Let me guess, if you defend this reiteration process they use, you want me to give examples of how it could be different?

Well let's see, they want to protect the platform as one for gaming, so maybe instead of incorporating a windows store and data collection as privacy invasion and cash grabs, how about you allow for a protected mode of the OS that prevents piracy?  Or if you are going to be dumb, go all the way, and do it in a user friendly way and model it after android.

Get rid of all the registry crap, build something new from the ground up that is robust and simplistic enough to not get corrupted by little 13 year old with nothing better to do than spread malware.

Make it a cloud OS, where you deploy once on a main PC, then optionally can deploy thin versions to your mobile devices and laptops, so everything is constantly in sync?

I can do this all day.  It's 2016 and this is some sad stuff.  Without ecosystems and cross promotions, apple and microsoft would be out of biz, and google would be in trouble.

Well, speaking as someone with an IQ of 3 (yes, just three), I don't care.

kruler

I have loved and Loathed Win 10 at times, but the thing that was bugging me the most, turned out to be a bug with he Logitech G510 software and nothing to do with Win 10 at all, you would of never guessed it as such.

Windows edge just sucks, run side by side with, well with any other browser and its slow and clunky and has a habit of freezing, this however could be due to my location as I have found a few Microsoft apps failing to connect properly or connect at all, I am on 100mps cable, but my geographical location makes that moot.

So I would say its as a base OS a good upgrade from 7, and typically for the product its still work in progress. 

laxie

Windows 10 seems alright. It is not as big of a fiasco as some make it out to be. All of the games run alright, the system is reasonably responsive, task manager works properly at last. It is a little rough around the edges in some cases - the ui can be a bit clunky at times. But all in all, it is not a bad upgrade.

It is (and will be) getting a lot of focus from Microsoft, so it is a solid choice.

Windows 7 was exceptionally well done. If you were to stick with Windows 7, I suppose that's fair enough. Though there will come a time where the upgrade will be inevitable, so you might as well do it now.

Windows 8 had some big flaws in my opinion, namely the Metro (tile) interface forcefully built on top of the operating system. This caused some awkward and slow transitions. Task manager was useless under load - you had try open it from desktop, being switched to Metro to confirm and then switched back to desktop. Terrible solution. If you can upgrade from 8.1 to 10, I'd say it is a no brainer.

mbrodie

adam_nox said:

Rusque said:

It's the only good version of Windows Microsoft has ever produced. The rest were appalling and I only ever put up with them because of games.

That's seriously too funny.  The number of tweaks you have to make for windows 10 to act like an OS for someone with an IQ over 80 is still higher than that of 7 and even XP.  They went overboard with 8 and learned a little, but it could still be better.  I just upgraded a few days ago and there's so many things I'm surprised it can't or won't do, given how much time they've had.  

For one multiple monitor support is still shabby.

Two, the start screen, something they are so proud of, is non-functional half the time with tiles that won't alert or update, and the inability to just have your files in front by hitting the windows key.  You have to either go to another folder, minimize everything to show desktop, or some BS.  

They've changed the wording and ease of general file navigation in an attempt still held over from windows 8 to force people to interact with their PCs on a dumb monkey level.

Splash welcome screen?  GTFO

Edge browser, does it even have extensions yet?

Outside of some shell changes and completely arbitrary ability to use dx12 and share games with xbox, it's windows 7.  It's still freakin windows 7.  

Let me guess, if you defend this reiteration process they use, you want me to give examples of how it could be different?

Well let's see, they want to protect the platform as one for gaming, so maybe instead of incorporating a windows store and data collection as privacy invasion and cash grabs, how about you allow for a protected mode of the OS that prevents piracy?  Or if you are going to be dumb, go all the way, and do it in a user friendly way and model it after android.

Get rid of all the registry crap, build something new from the ground up that is robust and simplistic enough to not get corrupted by little 13 year old with nothing better to do than spread malware.

Make it a cloud OS, where you deploy once on a main PC, then optionally can deploy thin versions to your mobile devices and laptops, so everything is constantly in sync?

I can do this all day.  It's 2016 and this is some sad stuff.  Without ecosystems and cross promotions, apple and microsoft would be out of biz, and google would be in trouble.

i mean.. not to sound like a dick, but am i mean't to care about any of this... i just wanna play games and talk crap on discord with friends, all of this means very little to me...

in 20 or so years of owning PCs i've never had a virus, i've never had my registry blown up by malware, i get it that it's a possibility, but for 90% of users they would probably never experience these issues and i'm being generous with the 90%

i do agree a cloud OS is a neat idea and esentially thats what they are aiming to accomplish with windows 10... 1 OS across all  your systems, they have stated this multiple times.

i'm so sick of the data invasion crap, i mean it honestly again doesn't affect me i have nothing to hide so what do i care if microsoft collects data on me, just like every other company in the world these days

and yes they have admitted the microsoft store isnt really taking off and it's not what they wanted it to be and as such are looking to return titles back on steam for more user accessibility

Source:
http://www.techradar.com/au/news/gaming/you-ll-soon-be-able-to-buy-microsoft-s-games-on-steam-1323551

i mean for most average users your points have counter points... but people wanna go tinfoil hat that windows is trying to steal their identities and invading their privacy on an extreme level... i honestly think microsoft could care less.

Edit - forgot to mention multiple monitors.. i run 3 monitors on and off with eyefinity and literally have 0 issues

Windows 10 has literally by far been the best OS i've had installed on my PC in a long time.

YashaX

Bloodaxes said:

Microsoft has been bugging me so much with notifications to upgrade to windows 10 from my 8.1 that it's getting way out of hand.

So let's put it straight to the point before I go to sleep:

For a gamer, how is windows 10 now compared to the previous operating systems? With games announced in E3 being exclusive to windows 10, as much as I don't want to, I'm thinking on the upgrade.

So help me out folks. I'll check this thread tomorrow when I wake up.

Thanks

It works fine, but it has some quite annoying elements at first (like a lot of advertising, unwanted programs, the way the start menu works, the info it tries to get from you) . After spending some time to customize it though, its quite similar to 7.

One thing I don't like that I haven't been able to change is the borderless (or near borderless) windows. It makes it hard to arrange multiple windows on screen(s); but for gaming its not really an issue.

gervaise1

Had no issues on multiple computers - installed when it first launched.
Find it faster.
You don't have to use Edge.
More secure.
A few driver annoyances that existed in Win8.1 were fixed.

mbrodie

Aori said:

I had font issues with W10 with my monitor, had to use an unofficial work around. I also have issues with the new System and Compressed memory feature, it has a memory leak or it doesn't dump anything, no idea. I have to restart my system to clear it up otherwise it'll crawl to a halt. 

I can honestly say out of everyone i know, no one has this issue.. that doesn't mean it's not a real problem for you but it seems fairly isolated.... i often leave my computer running days / weeks at a time with no drama same as a lot of friends...

maybe it's something a fresh install would fix i'm not sure?

psiic

Well I was very  anti 10 and I recently upgraded when I stuck in my 3rd hybrid drive in a year. Apparently something is really wrong with the seagate hybrid drives, but anyway windows 10 is not nearly as bad as I had been led to believe.

Meriik

So I thought windows 10 was agreeable? until my wife's computer did an automatic system update.  After the update it essentially "lost" the OS, wasn't able to locate it at all to start up.  Since the OS was completely gone we couldn't even do any type of system restore, had to clean all from command prompt and start completely over.  Called Microsoft for any type of tech support and they essentially told me to get lost and it wasn't their problem.  Anyway long story short Microsoft and I are not on good terms right now.

Vrika

Windows 10 is good improvement over Win 8.

Win 7 is still better than Win 10 for some uses. The changes made to better support tablet devices, touch screens and such make Win 8 and 10 interfaces worse for desktop use. But if you're already running Win 8, then there's no reason not to upgrade to Win 10 as long as you don't have any old devices which wouldn't have drivers available.

Octagon7711

Volgore said:

Is there by now a way to TOTALLY switch off all privacy intrusion/phoning home and use it like a regular OS instead of a systemwide spyware?

There are multiple tools to switch off all that, but then i read that some of these suspect "features" are so deeply integrated that they i.e. bypass your firewall and/or you just can't disable them.

Lots of videos on Youtube can walk you through setting up privacy.  Here's a site for software that does it.

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/14/comparison-of-windows-10-privacy-tools/