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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
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    Valve’s Only VR Title, ‘The Lab’, is the Highest Rated Game on All of Steam

    http://www.roadtovr.com/valves-only-vr-title-the-lab-is-the-highest-rated-game-on-all-of-steam/
    So they were comparing a game with less than 1000 reviews to a game that has over 70 thousand reviews.  Pretty much a game with as many reviews as the Vive has sold units....   thats a laugh.
    yeah i saw that to and to be honest I dont know. However, 'not being the best game of all time on steam' doesnt = total failure.

    again back to the bitwise way of thinking is likely not the best approach. 

    More accurately its likely just an extremely well reviewed and well received game instead of actually being the best ever
    I'll allow that it's probably one of the better VR games.  ....
    no I think you started that off wrong.

    even if The Lab is just ONE of the highest reviewed games on Steam and not THE highest reviewed game on steam that makes it one of the better games...not just in the VR space. 

    So the rest of your statement is built on a false pillar I am afraid
    No. The rest of my statement stands on it's own merits whether you like it or not. 
    yeah so The Lab is one of the best reviewed games among ALL GAMES on Steam NOT just VR Games
     It's a glorified demo.. and a free game.  If that's what VR fanboys want to use as their headlining title I'm all for it.  I'm sure valves making a killing on all those free purchases. 
    again, glorified demo or not, its one of the best reviewed games on steam for ALL games not just VR games
    Yes, again, a free demo, for a limited audience, being touted as "the game that teaches people how to play VR"  it doesn't matter if it's highly rated, nobody is playing it and they aren't making money on it.  

    Most people that played it if you look at the reviews are for less than 4 hours of time.   Most of the reviews on the next title Portal 2.. over 13 hours....  and several thousands more of reviews.

    You're taking people that put money on a headset and giving them a decent tutorial and you think that it won't get positive reviews?  The good reviews are just a "thank you" for making something.

    Call me when they get 10K reviews.. then we can talk. 
    none of that matters, its still one of the highest rated games in steam for ALL games not just VR games. it doesnt matter if its short, a demo or for a limited audience that all has about as much relevance to the statement as color of Britney Spears dress.

    They have voted and the vote is overwhelming positive
    Call me when it reaches 10K reviews.
    you want me to call you when its
    'THE best reviewed game on Steam'
    and not just
    'ONE of the best reviewed games on steam

    ok I will keep that in mind

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    Valve’s Only VR Title, ‘The Lab’, is the Highest Rated Game on All of Steam

    http://www.roadtovr.com/valves-only-vr-title-the-lab-is-the-highest-rated-game-on-all-of-steam/
    So they were comparing a game with less than 1000 reviews to a game that has over 70 thousand reviews.  Pretty much a game with as many reviews as the Vive has sold units....   thats a laugh.
    yeah i saw that to and to be honest I dont know. However, 'not being the best game of all time on steam' doesnt = total failure.

    again back to the bitwise way of thinking is likely not the best approach. 

    More accurately its likely just an extremely well reviewed and well received game instead of actually being the best ever
    I'll allow that it's probably one of the better VR games.  ....
    no I think you started that off wrong.

    even if The Lab is just ONE of the highest reviewed games on Steam and not THE highest reviewed game on steam that makes it one of the better games...not just in the VR space. 

    So the rest of your statement is built on a false pillar I am afraid
    No. The rest of my statement stands on it's own merits whether you like it or not. 
    yeah so The Lab is one of the best reviewed games among ALL GAMES on Steam NOT just VR Games
     It's a glorified demo.. and a free game.  If that's what VR fanboys want to use as their headlining title I'm all for it.  I'm sure valves making a killing on all those free purchases. 
    again, glorified demo or not, its one of the best reviewed games on steam for ALL games not just VR games
    Yes, again, a free demo, for a limited audience, being touted as "the game that teaches people how to play VR"  it doesn't matter if it's highly rated, nobody is playing it and they aren't making money on it.  

    Most people that played it if you look at the reviews are for less than 4 hours of time.   Most of the reviews on the next title Portal 2.. over 13 hours....  and several thousands more of reviews.

    You're taking people that put money on a headset and giving them a decent tutorial and you think that it won't get positive reviews?  The good reviews are just a "thank you" for making something.

    Call me when they get 10K reviews.. then we can talk. 
    none of that matters, its still one of the highest rated games in steam for ALL games not just VR games. it doesnt matter if its short, a demo or for a limited audience that all has about as much relevance to the statement as color of Britney Spears dress.

    They have voted and the vote is overwhelming positive
    Call me when it reaches 10K reviews.
    you want me to call you when its
    'THE best reviewed game on Steam'
    and not just
    'ONE of the best reviewed games on steam

    ok I will keep that in mind
    No I'll make it easy, call me after 5K reviews.. nobody will live long enough for it to get to 10K.



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775

    you want me to call you when its
    'THE best reviewed game on Steam'
    and not just
    'ONE of the best reviewed games on steam

    ok I will keep that in mind
    No I'll make it easy, call me after 5K reviews.. nobody will live long enough for it to get to 10K.
    Ah so instead of
    'One of the best reviewed games on steam covering ALL games on steam'
    you want
    'slightly better than that'

    gotcha

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    SEANMCAD said:

    you want me to call you when its
    'THE best reviewed game on Steam'
    and not just
    'ONE of the best reviewed games on steam

    ok I will keep that in mind
    No I'll make it easy, call me after 5K reviews.. nobody will live long enough for it to get to 10K.
    Ah so instead of
    'One of the best reviewed games on steam covering ALL games on steam'
    you want
    'slightly better than that'

    gotcha
    Oh was this confusing? Let me know when it hits 5K reviews. Then we can talk about it.  I saw 700 people playing Pokemon Go last night just in one park. A game that has over a million reviews.  Lets try and get this game to be a statistical sample of .0000001% of that before you run your mouth some more.



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:

    you want me to call you when its
    'THE best reviewed game on Steam'
    and not just
    'ONE of the best reviewed games on steam

    ok I will keep that in mind
    No I'll make it easy, call me after 5K reviews.. nobody will live long enough for it to get to 10K.
    Ah so instead of
    'One of the best reviewed games on steam covering ALL games on steam'
    you want
    'slightly better than that'

    gotcha
    Oh was this confusing? Let me know when it hits 5K reviews. Then we can talk about it.  I saw 700 people playing Pokemon Go last night just in one park. A game that has over a million reviews.  Lets try and get this game to be a statistical sample of .0000001% of that before you run your mouth some more.
    ok deal that should be easy I have no doubt that will happen. it might take a year though just to let you know.

    HOWEVER, I need to explain how this works because I think you are missing something.

    There are a ton of games with 'overwhemeling positive' review score and many of them have more than 5k reviews so how does work? well let me explain

    Example A: If you take 5000 reviews and every single one of them is positive its 'overwhelmingly positive'

    Example B: if you take 10000 review and 2000 of them are not positive its STILL 'overwhelmingly positive'

    So Example A is has a better reivew base then example B.

    that said, no problem will wait and watch for ya

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited July 2016
    I think that the fact that as of this time it has zero user reviews on Metacritic is quite telling.

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-lab

    edit: Why don't you be the first Sean

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited July 2016
    laserit said:
    I think that the fact that as of this time it has zero user reviews on Metacritic is quite telling.

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-lab
    so yeah...that is something worth putting some critical thinking skills into I think

    how is it possible that a game with 36,000 reviews of which is 'mostly positive' have an actual low metacritic score (console)? I speak of 7 days to die.

    How it is possible for Steam reviews to exist and yet not be on metacritic?

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    SEANMCAD said:
    laserit said:
    I think that the fact that as of this time it has zero user reviews on Metacritic is quite telling.

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-lab
    so yeah...that is something worth putting some critical thinking skills into I think

    how is it possible that a game with 36,000 reviews of which is mostly positive have an actual low metacritic score? I speak of 7 days to die.

    How it is possible for Steam reviews to exist and yet not be on metacritic?
    It's been released since April 5 and no users have bothered to review it on Metacritic.

    Zero reviews, good or bad = nobody cares

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    edited July 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    you want me to call you when its
    'THE best reviewed game on Steam'
    and not just
    'ONE of the best reviewed games on steam

    ok I will keep that in mind
    No I'll make it easy, call me after 5K reviews.. nobody will live long enough for it to get to 10K.
    Ah so instead of
    'One of the best reviewed games on steam covering ALL games on steam'
    you want
    'slightly better than that'

    gotcha
    Oh was this confusing? Let me know when it hits 5K reviews. Then we can talk about it.  I saw 700 people playing Pokemon Go last night just in one park. A game that has over a million reviews.  Lets try and get this game to be a statistical sample of .0000001% of that before you run your mouth some more.
    ok deal that should be easy I have no doubt that will happen. it might take a year though just to let you know.

    HOWEVER, I need to explain how this works because I think you are missing something.

    There are a ton of games with 'overwhemeling positive' review score and many of them have more than 5k reviews so how does work? well let me explain

    Example A: If you take 5000 reviews and every single one of them is positive its 'overwhelmingly positive'

    Example B: if you take 10000 review and 2000 of them are not positive its STILL 'overwhelmingly positive'

    So Example A is has a better reivew base then example B.

    that said, no problem will wait and watch for ya
    The point is that the game was 99% positive.  The more reviews the less likely that is to happen.  Right now the only people that are reviewing it are fanboys.  Fanboys that have voted up just about every VR game on the list.. very few VR games have "bad reviews" and it isn't because they are good games.. most of them are pretty bad.

     Millions ... in fact more people play pokemon Go than will ever buy into VR...  but that game sits at just 3.9 on the android store (with over 10 million downloads for the US android store).

    As VR will  not hit mainstream anytime soon it's highly unlikely they'll hit the 5K mark,  not in a year.. not in 3 years.  It's been 6 months and they don't even have 1K yet.

    I shouldn't have to explain how percentages and statistics work but I guess some people don't get them. 



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775

    The point is that the game was 99% positive.  The more reviews the less likely that is to happen.  Right now the only people that are reviewing it are fanboys.  Fanboys that have voted up just about every VR game on the list.. very few VR games have "bad reviews" and it isn't because they are good games.. most of them are pretty bad.

     Millions ... in fact more people play pokemon Go than will ever buy into VR...  but that game sits at just 3.9 on the android store (with over 10 million downloads for the US android store).

    As VR will  not hit mainstream anytime soon it's highly unlikely they'll hit the 5K mark,  not in a year.. not in 3 years.  It's been 6 months and they don't even have 1K yet.

    I shouldn't have to explain how percentages and statistics work but I guess some people don't get them. 
    fair enough I will let you know when its 10,000 then

    what ironic here is despite some peoples calls that VR is dead or dying even before Sony VR is out the actual evidence out there to support that view is still rather hard to find, instead we keep getting things like 'sold out','an upgraded version in the works','Disney Pooring in money', 'Xbox is getting a new version that works with VR' , 'Nivida is headlining the new video cards as 'VR','StarVR to make VR experiences you can go to like arcades' and now 'The demo that is free and is only used as a portal to other games has outstanding reviews'

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    SEANMCAD said:

    The point is that the game was 99% positive.  The more reviews the less likely that is to happen.  Right now the only people that are reviewing it are fanboys.  Fanboys that have voted up just about every VR game on the list.. very few VR games have "bad reviews" and it isn't because they are good games.. most of them are pretty bad.

     Millions ... in fact more people play pokemon Go than will ever buy into VR...  but that game sits at just 3.9 on the android store (with over 10 million downloads for the US android store).

    As VR will  not hit mainstream anytime soon it's highly unlikely they'll hit the 5K mark,  not in a year.. not in 3 years.  It's been 6 months and they don't even have 1K yet.

    I shouldn't have to explain how percentages and statistics work but I guess some people don't get them. 
    fair enough I will let you know when its 10,000 then

    what ironic here is despite some peoples calls that VR is dead or dying even before Sony VR is out the actual evidence out there to support that view is still rather hard to find, instead we keep getting things like 'sold out','an upgraded version in the works','Disney Pooring in money', 'Xbox is getting a new version that works with VR' , 'Nivida is headlining the new video cards as 'VR','StarVR to make VR experiences you can go to like arcades' and now 'The demo that is free and is only used as a portal to other games has outstanding reviews'

    Meanwhile analysts are downgrading VR sales and growth by billions of dollars this year.  Good to know.



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:

    The point is that the game was 99% positive.  The more reviews the less likely that is to happen.  Right now the only people that are reviewing it are fanboys.  Fanboys that have voted up just about every VR game on the list.. very few VR games have "bad reviews" and it isn't because they are good games.. most of them are pretty bad.

     Millions ... in fact more people play pokemon Go than will ever buy into VR...  but that game sits at just 3.9 on the android store (with over 10 million downloads for the US android store).

    As VR will  not hit mainstream anytime soon it's highly unlikely they'll hit the 5K mark,  not in a year.. not in 3 years.  It's been 6 months and they don't even have 1K yet.

    I shouldn't have to explain how percentages and statistics work but I guess some people don't get them. 
    fair enough I will let you know when its 10,000 then

    what ironic here is despite some peoples calls that VR is dead or dying even before Sony VR is out the actual evidence out there to support that view is still rather hard to find, instead we keep getting things like 'sold out','an upgraded version in the works','Disney Pooring in money', 'Xbox is getting a new version that works with VR' , 'Nivida is headlining the new video cards as 'VR','StarVR to make VR experiences you can go to like arcades' and now 'The demo that is free and is only used as a portal to other games has outstanding reviews'

    Meanwhile analysts are downgrading VR sales and growth by billions of dollars this year.  Good to know.
    yeah amazing that one counter datapoint.

    want to know why they are doing that?

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    SEANMCAD said:

    The point is that the game was 99% positive.  The more reviews the less likely that is to happen.  Right now the only people that are reviewing it are fanboys.  Fanboys that have voted up just about every VR game on the list.. very few VR games have "bad reviews" and it isn't because they are good games.. most of them are pretty bad.

     Millions ... in fact more people play pokemon Go than will ever buy into VR...  but that game sits at just 3.9 on the android store (with over 10 million downloads for the US android store).

    As VR will  not hit mainstream anytime soon it's highly unlikely they'll hit the 5K mark,  not in a year.. not in 3 years.  It's been 6 months and they don't even have 1K yet.

    I shouldn't have to explain how percentages and statistics work but I guess some people don't get them. 
    fair enough I will let you know when its 10,000 then

    what ironic here is despite some peoples calls that VR is dead or dying even before Sony VR is out the actual evidence out there to support that view is still rather hard to find, instead we keep getting things like 'sold out','an upgraded version in the works','Disney Pooring in money', 'Xbox is getting a new version that works with VR' , 'Nivida is headlining the new video cards as 'VR','StarVR to make VR experiences you can go to like arcades' and now 'The demo that is free and is only used as a portal to other games has outstanding reviews'

    To cite thoughts in another thread....

    Maybe its payed for advertising trying to brainwash us into buying in.

    On a more serious note:

    There will no doubt be some great games to come for VR. I believe they will be games suited for short bursts of play. The devices are not friendly for long sittings. IMHO 15 minutes before a break is about what most users will end up being able to handle.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    The point is that the game was 99% positive.  The more reviews the less likely that is to happen.  Right now the only people that are reviewing it are fanboys.  Fanboys that have voted up just about every VR game on the list.. very few VR games have "bad reviews" and it isn't because they are good games.. most of them are pretty bad.

     Millions ... in fact more people play pokemon Go than will ever buy into VR...  but that game sits at just 3.9 on the android store (with over 10 million downloads for the US android store).

    As VR will  not hit mainstream anytime soon it's highly unlikely they'll hit the 5K mark,  not in a year.. not in 3 years.  It's been 6 months and they don't even have 1K yet.

    I shouldn't have to explain how percentages and statistics work but I guess some people don't get them. 
    fair enough I will let you know when its 10,000 then

    what ironic here is despite some peoples calls that VR is dead or dying even before Sony VR is out the actual evidence out there to support that view is still rather hard to find, instead we keep getting things like 'sold out','an upgraded version in the works','Disney Pooring in money', 'Xbox is getting a new version that works with VR' , 'Nivida is headlining the new video cards as 'VR','StarVR to make VR experiences you can go to like arcades' and now 'The demo that is free and is only used as a portal to other games has outstanding reviews'

    Meanwhile analysts are downgrading VR sales and growth by billions of dollars this year.  Good to know.
    yeah amazing that one counter datapoint.

    want to know why they are doing that?

    They said it in the analyst report...the same one I posted earlier in this same thread. People aren't buying, there's no indication that there will be sustainable growth in VR at all.  There is no indication that VR will hit mainstream in the near future.

    In other words... people don't care about VR.  It's too expensive, not engrossing enough, nobody is buying them, nobody wants them.

    Maybe in several years when portable devices can better handle it.. right now... nobody wants the current vr sets.



  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    It takes awhile for consumers to switch to a newer and better technology. Countless examples can be found when a clearly better invention comes out, and the transfer rate of consumers. The switch to embracing VR will be the same no doubt.
     
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    It takes awhile for consumers to switch to a newer and better technology. Countless examples can be found when a clearly better invention comes out, and the transfer rate of consumers. The switch to embracing VR will be the same no doubt.
    OR it may never materialize as we've seen with countless technologies that were believed to have a "slow start" but ended up as "the mainstream technology that never was" 



  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    It takes awhile for consumers to switch to a newer and better technology. Countless examples can be found when a clearly better invention comes out, and the transfer rate of consumers. The switch to embracing VR will be the same no doubt.
    OR it may never materialize as we've seen with countless technologies that were believed to have a "slow start" but ended up as "the mainstream technology that never was" 
    I don't know about that... Look how big of a hit motion sensing worked out to be for PS and Xbox.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    The point is that the game was 99% positive.  The more reviews the less likely that is to happen.  Right now the only people that are reviewing it are fanboys.  Fanboys that have voted up just about every VR game on the list.. very few VR games have "bad reviews" and it isn't because they are good games.. most of them are pretty bad.

     Millions ... in fact more people play pokemon Go than will ever buy into VR...  but that game sits at just 3.9 on the android store (with over 10 million downloads for the US android store).

    As VR will  not hit mainstream anytime soon it's highly unlikely they'll hit the 5K mark,  not in a year.. not in 3 years.  It's been 6 months and they don't even have 1K yet.

    I shouldn't have to explain how percentages and statistics work but I guess some people don't get them. 
    fair enough I will let you know when its 10,000 then

    what ironic here is despite some peoples calls that VR is dead or dying even before Sony VR is out the actual evidence out there to support that view is still rather hard to find, instead we keep getting things like 'sold out','an upgraded version in the works','Disney Pooring in money', 'Xbox is getting a new version that works with VR' , 'Nivida is headlining the new video cards as 'VR','StarVR to make VR experiences you can go to like arcades' and now 'The demo that is free and is only used as a portal to other games has outstanding reviews'

    Meanwhile analysts are downgrading VR sales and growth by billions of dollars this year.  Good to know.
    yeah amazing that one counter datapoint.

    want to know why they are doing that?

    They said it in the analyst report...the same one I posted earlier in this same thread. People aren't buying, there's no indication that there will be sustainable growth in VR at all.  There is no indication that VR will hit mainstream in the near future.

    In other words... people don't care about VR.  It's too expensive, not engrossing enough, nobody is buying them, nobody wants them.

    Maybe in several years when portable devices can better handle it.. right now... nobody wants the current vr sets.
    the article nearly literally said 'here's no indication that there will be sustainable growth in VR at all'

    really? can you repost that please and post the quote where you get that reference to.

    thanks

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  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    It takes awhile for consumers to switch to a newer and better technology. Countless examples can be found when a clearly better invention comes out, and the transfer rate of consumers. The switch to embracing VR will be the same no doubt.
    OR it may never materialize as we've seen with countless technologies that were believed to have a "slow start" but ended up as "the mainstream technology that never was" 
    That could be the case I'm no Nostradamus. I am more inclined to think this will breakthrough eventually. Of course this is my personal belief, but I respect others opinions.
     
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    The point is that the game was 99% positive.  The more reviews the less likely that is to happen.  Right now the only people that are reviewing it are fanboys.  Fanboys that have voted up just about every VR game on the list.. very few VR games have "bad reviews" and it isn't because they are good games.. most of them are pretty bad.

     Millions ... in fact more people play pokemon Go than will ever buy into VR...  but that game sits at just 3.9 on the android store (with over 10 million downloads for the US android store).

    As VR will  not hit mainstream anytime soon it's highly unlikely they'll hit the 5K mark,  not in a year.. not in 3 years.  It's been 6 months and they don't even have 1K yet.

    I shouldn't have to explain how percentages and statistics work but I guess some people don't get them. 
    fair enough I will let you know when its 10,000 then

    what ironic here is despite some peoples calls that VR is dead or dying even before Sony VR is out the actual evidence out there to support that view is still rather hard to find, instead we keep getting things like 'sold out','an upgraded version in the works','Disney Pooring in money', 'Xbox is getting a new version that works with VR' , 'Nivida is headlining the new video cards as 'VR','StarVR to make VR experiences you can go to like arcades' and now 'The demo that is free and is only used as a portal to other games has outstanding reviews'

    Meanwhile analysts are downgrading VR sales and growth by billions of dollars this year.  Good to know.
    yeah amazing that one counter datapoint.

    want to know why they are doing that?

    They said it in the analyst report...the same one I posted earlier in this same thread. People aren't buying, there's no indication that there will be sustainable growth in VR at all.  There is no indication that VR will hit mainstream in the near future.

    In other words... people don't care about VR.  It's too expensive, not engrossing enough, nobody is buying them, nobody wants them.

    Maybe in several years when portable devices can better handle it.. right now... nobody wants the current vr sets.
    the article nearly literally said 'here's no indication that there will be sustainable growth in VR at all'

    really? can you repost that please and post the quote where you get that reference to.

    thanks
    Did you forget how to read? Do it yourself, or read my previous posts in the thread where I linked the article and quoted it already.

    Don't want to do it?  Hire a secretary. I already did my part, I found the article, it's your job to read it if you want to know. 



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    maskedweasel

    The reason 'nobody is buying them' is because the forecasts for sale where all written with the assumption that Oculus was to have been released in Q4 of 2015 so basically based on those numbers the reason why 'nobody is buying them' is because nobody could buy them' again based on orginal predictions of Oculus (CV1)being aviable to consumers in Q4 2015

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    It takes awhile for consumers to switch to a newer and better technology. Countless examples can be found when a clearly better invention comes out, and the transfer rate of consumers. The switch to embracing VR will be the same no doubt.
    OR it may never materialize as we've seen with countless technologies that were believed to have a "slow start" but ended up as "the mainstream technology that never was" 
    That could be the case I'm no Nostradamus. I am more inclined to think this will breakthrough eventually. Of course this is my personal belief, but I respect others opinions.
    I'm of the mind it will eventually break through as well, but not in it's current state..  I believe mobile VR will one get mainstream adoption.. whether its via phones or smaller systems akin to handheld devices today.  But that isn't in a year.. or 2 years..  maybe not even several. 

    Either way I'm quite critical of the devices today, I see very little utility of them. 



  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    SEANMCAD said:
    maskedweasel

    The reason 'nobody is buying them' is because the forecasts for sale where all written with the assumption that Oculus was to have been released in Q4 of 2015 so basically based on those numbers the reason why 'nobody is buying them' is because nobody could buy them' again based on orginal predictions of Oculus (CV1)being aviable to consumers in Q4 2015
    Simply put... No.



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
    maskedweasel

    The reason 'nobody is buying them' is because the forecasts for sale where all written with the assumption that Oculus was to have been released in Q4 of 2015 so basically based on those numbers the reason why 'nobody is buying them' is because nobody could buy them' again based on orginal predictions of Oculus (CV1)being aviable to consumers in Q4 2015
    Simply put... No.
    that is very simply (to borrow your phrase) the reason why sales are lower than expected on these reports that were created last year.

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    maskedweasel

    The reason 'nobody is buying them' is because the forecasts for sale where all written with the assumption that Oculus was to have been released in Q4 of 2015 so basically based on those numbers the reason why 'nobody is buying them' is because nobody could buy them' again based on orginal predictions of Oculus (CV1)being aviable to consumers in Q4 2015
    Simply put... No.
    that is very simply (to borrow your phrase) the reason why sales are lower than expected on these reports that were created last year.
    The analyst report I posted was from May



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