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No Vanilla Servers to be Announced at Blizzcon

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited October 2016 in News & Features Discussion

imageNo Vanilla Servers to be Announced at Blizzcon

World of Warcraft News - After not so subtly hinting around by the Nostalrius "Private Server" group that Blizzard may be getting ready to announce World of Warcraft classic, or vanilla, servers at this year's Blizzcon, J. Allen Brack has taken to the official forums to squash that rumor.

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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited October 2016
    To the surprise of no one. If the Nostalrius people ever want to play any further part in the implementation of vanilla servers, threatening Blizzard with releasing the server code is a goofy way to go about it. *facepalm*


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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Ne news here, this was already known , Like i said before when this topic got heated here , Blizz would first release Legion and gather data for a year before they ever even consider, Vanilla , French-Vanilla , Vanilla-Swirled or any other flavor of Vanilla your mind can concoct.
  • DarLorkarDarLorkar Member UncommonPosts: 1,082
    Did or does anyone really expect them to? Adding servers that they need to run a completely different game, and bug fix, update, and patch and expand... I just do not see that happening.
  • NixeskaNixeska Member UncommonPosts: 39
    We've got decent content coming in decent time for once and the WoW team is already taking more hits, I don't see why anyone currently playing would want to risk that by having members shifted to tend to legacy servers.
  • XingbairongXingbairong Member RarePosts: 927
    edited October 2016
    Tbh I think that Blizzard is quite happy at the moment with how Legion is developing and they probably decided, for now at least that they don't need the Vanilla servers. I imagine they will wait few more months before they can make a firm decision if they have to venture that road or not.
    I'm 99% confident that if they released Vanilla servers they will get at least 1-2 mil more subs right away. I personally have at least 10 friends who don't play WoW anymore, but are more than willing to start playing on an official Vanilla/TBC servers.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

    Scorchien said:

    Ne news here, this was already known , Like i said before when this topic got heated here , Blizz would first release Legion and gather data for a year before they ever even consider, Vanilla , French-Vanilla , Vanilla-Swirled or any other flavor of Vanilla your mind can concoct.



    Yep but the new "fly in the ointment" is the threat by the Nostalrius team that they'll release the code. It worked once. I don't think it'll work again. Bad play on their part, I think.

    Like all big businesses, Blizzard moves slowly and to think that they would get going on a project the complexity that the vanilla servers represents in the same year as an expansion is wishful thinking.


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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

    DMKano said:

    "To the surprise of no one" -SBFord



    Perfect comment



    It's because of the Bee Gees thing the other day, isn't it? <3


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  • Kunai_VaxKunai_Vax Member RarePosts: 527
    Kind of saw this coming. Nostalrius shouldnt have made that threat to be honest. If blizzard was going to to start some kind of legacy server then it would have already been in the works so threatening them a month before blizcon was never going change anything.
    I love the idea of a legacy server, but 12years of playing warcraft has taught me that blizzard always doubles down on any bad decisions they make. Always.
    Threatening them has probably ensured they will never look at legacy servers simply because of their own hubris.




  • LawlmonsterLawlmonster Member UncommonPosts: 1,085
    Not a huge problem. I can still play vanilla on about half a dozen servers with varying populations, I'm sure there are more that are less popular, so this doesn't effect me. Really only effects Blizzard.

    "This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran)

  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,069

    SBFord said:

    To the surprise of no one. If the Nostalrius people ever want to play any further part in the implementation of vanilla servers, threatening Blizzard with releasing the server code is a goofy way to go about it. *facepalm*



    Yeah that was pretty dumb. And if Nos does try to open shop again, I'm pretty sure that Blizz won't be so cordial about it this time.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    Nostalrius were dumb if they truly cared about vanilla servers they should have handed Blizzard the code. Dumb move by selfish thieves.

  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    Not a huge problem. I can still play vanilla on about half a dozen servers with varying populations, I'm sure there are more that are less popular, so this doesn't effect me. Really only effects Blizzard.
    They'll just shut your server down and all the time and effort you spent playing and building your characters will go down the drain.... good for you.

  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    Are they giving everyone a new car?  They didn't announce they are not going to do that.  What other things they are not going to do are they going to announce? 
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2010/QBlog190810A.html  

    Epic Music:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1

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    Kyleran:  "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."

    John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."

    FreddyNoNose:  "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."

    LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"




  • Kunai_VaxKunai_Vax Member RarePosts: 527
    kitarad said:
    Nostalrius were dumb if they truly cared about vanilla servers they should have handed Blizzard the code. Dumb move by selfish thieves.
    Dont really follow..
    How would giving blizzard the code have helped? Any reasons involved in blizzards decisions on this matter would have all been financial. 




  • Kunai_VaxKunai_Vax Member RarePosts: 527
    waynejr2 said:
    Are they giving everyone a new car?  They didn't announce they are not going to do that.  What other things they are not going to do are they going to announce? 
    They made this statement because there has been a lot of talk about it on the official forums. 
    They asked players on the official forum what questions they would want answering in the Q&A during blizcon and the biggest request by far on the forums was regarding legacy servers. 



  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    waynejr2 said:
    Are they giving everyone a new car?  They didn't announce they are not going to do that.  What other things they are not going to do are they going to announce? 
    They made this statement because there has been a lot of talk about it on the official forums. 
    They asked players on the official forum what questions they would want answering in the Q&A during blizcon and the biggest request by far on the forums was regarding legacy servers. 



    Lighten up Francis.
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2010/QBlog190810A.html  

    Epic Music:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1

    https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1

    Kyleran:  "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."

    John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."

    FreddyNoNose:  "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."

    LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"




  • Kunai_VaxKunai_Vax Member RarePosts: 527
    waynejr2 said:
    waynejr2 said:
    Are they giving everyone a new car?  They didn't announce they are not going to do that.  What other things they are not going to do are they going to announce? 
    They made this statement because there has been a lot of talk about it on the official forums. 
    They asked players on the official forum what questions they would want answering in the Q&A during blizcon and the biggest request by far on the forums was regarding legacy servers. 



    Lighten up Francis.
    Right back at you. 



  • ThupliThupli Member RarePosts: 1,318

    SBFord said:

    To the surprise of no one. If the Nostalrius people ever want to play any further part in the implementation of vanilla servers, threatening Blizzard with releasing the server code is a goofy way to go about it. *facepalm*



    They have not threatened to release the code since they took it down. They threatened to talk about what they discussed with blizzard recently. Read their post on their website, avoid your own bias when reporting: profit.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

    Thupli said:



    SBFord said:


    To the surprise of no one. If the Nostalrius people ever want to play any further part in the implementation of vanilla servers, threatening Blizzard with releasing the server code is a goofy way to go about it. *facepalm*






    They have not threatened to release the code since they took it down. They threatened to talk about what they discussed with blizzard recently. Read their post on their website, avoid your own bias when reporting: profit.



    *shrug* The language of the letter they posted to the forum was purposely obtuse and wide open to a number of interpretations. I guess we'll see what happens during and shortly after Blizzcon.


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  • LawlmonsterLawlmonster Member UncommonPosts: 1,085
    kitarad said:
    Not a huge problem. I can still play vanilla on about half a dozen servers with varying populations, I'm sure there are more that are less popular, so this doesn't effect me. Really only effects Blizzard.
    They'll just shut your server down and all the time and effort you spent playing and building your characters will go down the drain.... good for you.
    Not really a huge concern. They're pretty slow going forward, if what they're actually trying to do is shut these places down. Some of them have been up since before Nostralius was closed, some are newer, and I don't have a problem with starting over again.

    "This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran)

  • sedatedkarmasedatedkarma Member UncommonPosts: 181

    Thupli said:



    SBFord said:


    To the surprise of no one. If the Nostalrius people ever want to play any further part in the implementation of vanilla servers, threatening Blizzard with releasing the server code is a goofy way to go about it. *facepalm*






    They have not threatened to release the code since they took it down. They threatened to talk about what they discussed with blizzard recently. Read their post on their website, avoid your own bias when reporting: profit.



    Agreed. I find it quite offensive that this is taken out of context.

    Letter threatening to release code - Before the meeting with Blizzard


    WTF MMORPG.COM!!
    Happily playing Vanilla and BC WoW, again, since September 2016.

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Not until Blizzard can figure out how to make money from this at a level that would make a profit. Why would they move forward. I think they are asking to much.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    Thupli said:

    SBFord said:

    To the surprise of no one. If the Nostalrius people ever want to play any further part in the implementation of vanilla servers, threatening Blizzard with releasing the server code is a goofy way to go about it. *facepalm*






    They have not threatened to release the code since they took it down. They threatened to talk about what they discussed with blizzard recently. Read their post on their website, avoid your own bias when reporting: profit.

    Agreed. I find it quite offensive that this is taken out of context.
    Letter threatening to release code - Before the meeting with Blizzard
    WTF MMORPG.COM!!
    The quotation was placed into the full article exactly as it was written in the linked forum post. It was not taken out of context and it is purposely ambiguous with no further clarification about what their intentions are.


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  • ThupliThupli Member RarePosts: 1,318
    SBFord said:
    Thupli said:

    SBFord said:

    To the surprise of no one. If the Nostalrius people ever want to play any further part in the implementation of vanilla servers, threatening Blizzard with releasing the server code is a goofy way to go about it. *facepalm*






    They have not threatened to release the code since they took it down. They threatened to talk about what they discussed with blizzard recently. Read their post on their website, avoid your own bias when reporting: profit.

    Agreed. I find it quite offensive that this is taken out of context.
    Letter threatening to release code - Before the meeting with Blizzard
    WTF MMORPG.COM!!
    The quotation was placed into the full article exactly as it was written in the linked forum post. It was not taken out of context and it is purposely ambiguous with no further clarification about what their intentions are.
    No, you went back to the original Nostalrius post before they ever had met with Blizzard, pulling it extremely out of context.  It is misleading journalism and smacks of complete bias and inability to clearly relate the truth of the story.

    There have been multiple posts on the Nostalrius website since that clearly convey they are NOT releasing the code, but talking about how Blizzard is now able to get past some of the issues that held them up.

    The story is because people are wondering if they will learn more about this development and legacy servers, yet you try to spin it as a "Blizzard wont give in to threats".  Talk about a mix of stories to make your point; SHEESH!
  • ThupliThupli Member RarePosts: 1,318
    SBFord said:
    To the surprise of no one. If the Nostalrius people ever want to play any further part in the implementation of vanilla servers, threatening Blizzard with releasing the server code is a goofy way to go about it. *facepalm*
    Quoting this to make sure no editing.  You are very clear on your point about making this somehow link to first time that they threaten to release the code... doing your best to conflate this announcement to some new threat to release the code.  
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