ARMA 3 is techically broken game. But yeah keep dreaming and complaining about broken games ROFL
No wonder they dont even bother fixing games any more when they have customers like you lol
so your just making up random things because you dont like the game. Like i said, I have literally had zero problems with it so I dont have a fucking clue what your making up.
Sorry to interject on this thread it just keeps pooping up on the front page and everytime I read 'Titianfall' it makes my hair stand on end. I will try to displine myself away from this thread
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
AMD didnt fudge anythign in a long long time and certainly wasnt convicted for false advertising.
NVidia completely lied about their cards capabilites in DX12/Vulkan.
Saying that DUAL 480's aren't using as much power as 1080 is false. Then when you watch the video they said the 480's weren't at 100% output. Which was also false. Dual 480's use 2x more power tlhen a 1080 and they are at 100% output.
AMD totally lied about how the dual 480's perform and their power consumption.
ARMA 3 is techically broken game. But yeah keep dreaming and complaining about broken games ROFL
No wonder they dont even bother fixing games any more when they have customers like you lol
so your just making up random things because you dont like the game. Like i said, I have literally had zero problems with it so I dont have a fucking clue what your making up.
Sorry to interject on this thread it just keeps pooping up on the front page and everytime I read 'Titianfall' it makes my hair stand on end. I will try to displine myself away from this thread
Dude, if yo uactually think a bit (i know it seems extremely hard for you) you would know what facts are, but hey enjoy your broken games, and be SURE to complain about broken games some more...lol
yeah, you shuld definitely stay away from the thread as your contribution is...abbysmal...and competition is definitely fierce for that title lol
Saying that DUAL 480's aren't using as much power as 1080 is false.
Then when you watch the video they said the 480's weren't at 100%
output. Which was also false. Dual 480's use 2x more power tlhen a
1080 and they are at 100% output.
AMD totally lied about how the dual 480's perform and their power consumption.
Where did they EVER say 2x 480 are using less power than 1080 huh? lieing...agian?
150x2=180x2 now? go back to primary school as that is learned in primary school lol
2nd - there are VERY rare games where mGPU scaling is 100%, and 2x480 beat 1080 at 70% scaling and that mens that every card is doing ~85% load so its 150*0,85*2= 255W nowhere NEAR 2*180= 360W of 2x1080 lol
ARMA 3 is techically broken game. But yeah keep dreaming and complaining about broken games ROFL
No wonder they dont even bother fixing games any more when they have customers like you lol
so your just making up random things because you dont like the game. Like i said, I have literally had zero problems with it so I dont have a fucking clue what your making up.
Sorry to interject on this thread it just keeps pooping up on the front page and everytime I read 'Titianfall' it makes my hair stand on end. I will try to displine myself away from this thread
Dude, if yo uactually think a bit (i know it seems extremely hard for you) you would know what facts are, but hey enjoy your broken games, and be SURE to complain about broken games some more...lol
the problem with running benchmarks on a game that is designed to run on a console is that it doesnt really tell you much about the high end graphics end because it dosent really have much high end graphics end.
that is aside from TitianFall itself as a game being anyonying and a representation of most of what is wrong in gaming which to be honest is why it makes my skin crawl but to be fair is off topic.
It being a console game however...in the context of benchmarks for PC, is on topic and in my mind a bad choice
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
ARMA 3 is techically broken game. But yeah keep dreaming and complaining about broken games ROFL
No wonder they dont even bother fixing games any more when they have customers like you lol
so your just making up random things because you dont like the game. Like i said, I have literally had zero problems with it so I dont have a fucking clue what your making up.
Sorry to interject on this thread it just keeps pooping up on the front page and everytime I read 'Titianfall' it makes my hair stand on end. I will try to displine myself away from this thread
Dude, if yo uactually think a bit (i know it seems extremely hard for you) you would know what facts are, but hey enjoy your broken games, and be SURE to complain about broken games some more...lol
the problem with running benchmarks on a game that is designed to run on a console is that it doesnt really tell you much about the high end graphics end because it dosent really have much high end graphics end.
that is aside from TitianFall itself as a game being anyonying and a representation of most of what is wrong in gaming which to be honest is why it makes my skin crawl but to be fair is off topic.
It being a console game however...in the context of benchmarks for PC, is on topic and in my mind a bad choice
Pretty much ALL AAA games are designed for consoles first, because of one little thing: they get 80% of revenue from consles.
ARMA 3 and such broken games are not representation of anything else but techically broken games with severe CPU bottlenecks (for no other reason except incompetent developers that cant unbreak it, or, better to say, they dont give a f..k about it with customers like you who will say "its fine")
This is not about games or "are they good or not as a game", this is about performance which is irrelevant of what you think about the game.
Yeah, its a post history of someone who has extensive knowlegde of both brands debunking fanbois like you and the lot.
I respect @Quizzical and @Ridelynn opinions on such things, they seem very knowledgeable and unbiased. Anything of value that you might have to say seems to be mired in bias and prejudice, almost a hatred.
Too bad really.
And thats what makes you just another brainless NVidia fanboi.
The standing line of NVidia court history warrants no prejudice: they BS whenever they open their mouth,
just look at Async and whole DX12/Vulkan fiasco and them threatening dev that exposed their lies. and thats at same time they were convicted for false advertising GTX970.
chooo choo, board the NVidia PR BS fanboi train with laserit!
good, you cant even defend that as, guess what: those are facts lol
you seem to have great difficulty with word prejudice as you heard it and dont really know what it means, you just think it makes you look smart...but when you completely missuse words like that it does complete opposite rofl
Yeah, NVidia fanbois like you and GDemani/Vrika and rest are LoLing every post that doesnt spread praise and BS NVidia PR rofl
But hey, youre not interested in facts, just PR BS as youve proven by your posting in this thread where you even lie youd buy AMD card if its better....but you didnt, youre such a fanboi youd buy NVidia no matter what like you always had
And there you go, insta LoL rofl
you do relize noone gives a f..k about those and you lot STILL do it, thats how far your obssesions with a brand goes rofl
good, you cant even defend that as, guess what: those are facts lol
you seem to have great difficulty with word prejudice as you heard it and dont really know what it means, you just think it makes you look smart...but when you completely missuse words like that it does complete opposite rofl
Pretty much ALL AAA games are designed for consoles first, because of one little thing: they get 80% of revenue from consles.
ARMA 3 and such broken games are not representation of anything else but techically broken games with severe CPU bottlenecks (for no other reason except incompetent developers that cant unbreak it, or, better to say, they dont give a f..k about it with customers like you who will say "its fine")
This is not about games or "are they good or not as a game", this is about performance which is irrelevant of what you think about the game.
you first part sounds like excuses. benchmarking a console first game for PC video cards is flat out asine frankly and for multiple reasons.
your second part just sounds like your bitter and perhaps confused. you keep talking about 'broken' and I keep telling you repeatedly that I have never had a problem with the game
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
ROFL "excuse" ahahahahahah, youre talking about comedy rofl.
Accept the facts, consoles are 80+% of AAA games market. How long have you been gone lol
and here we go again "im bitter" because i dont accept crap im served and call it out.
As i said, enjoy your broken games, be sure to complain a lot next time, you certainly seem like that type lol
1. indies have games with very high end graphics. in fact some with HIGHER end graphics then AAA games so I really dont give a fuck about the game being AAA in the context of graphic benchmarking. 2. console first titles literally dial down the graphics on the PC with such clever tactics as locking the FPS at 30 or 60 for example. what other short cuts are they doing? 3. just use Arma 3 or Elite Dangerous. Perhaps Stranded Deep or The Forest if you like I can provide you a huge list but for the love of god for a PC graphics game dont benchmark a console first title that is just stupid.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
good, you cant even defend that as, guess what: those are facts lol
you seem to have great difficulty with word prejudice as you heard it and dont really know what it means, you just think it makes you look smart...but when you completely missuse words like that it does complete opposite rofl
Saying that DUAL 480's aren't using as much power as 1080 is false.
Then when you watch the video they said the 480's weren't at 100%
output. Which was also false. Dual 480's use 2x more power tlhen a
1080 and they are at 100% output.
AMD totally lied about how the dual 480's perform and their power consumption.
Where did they EVER say 2x 480 are using less power than 1080 huh? lieing...agian?
150x2=180x2 now? go back to primary school as that is learned in primary school lol
2nd - there are VERY rare games where mGPU scaling is 100%, and 2x480 beat 1080 at 70% scaling and that mens that every card is doing ~85% load so its 150*0,85*2= 255W nowhere NEAR 2*180= 360W of 2x1080 lol
I think you misunderstand what I said. When the tech demo for the 480 was presented. They placed 2x480's against 1x1080. They said the 480's were using about 50% power output and they also claimed that it was using less overall power consumption as the 1x1080.
It turned out to be false because it took 100% power output for the 2x480s to perform at the level of 1x1080. Which results in the 2x480's using 300w vs the 180w from the 1080. Not quite 2x but its a lot more.
ROFL "excuse" ahahahahahah, youre talking about comedy rofl.
Accept the facts, consoles are 80+% of AAA games market. How long have you been gone lol
and here we go again "im bitter" because i dont accept crap im served and call it out.
As i said, enjoy your broken games, be sure to complain a lot next time, you certainly seem like that type lol
1. indies have games with very high end graphics. in fact some with HIGHER end graphics then AAA games so I really dont give a fuck about the game being AAA in the context of graphic benchmarking. 2. console first titles literally dial down the graphics on the PC with such clever tactics as locking the FPS at 30 or 60 for example. what other short cuts are they doing? 3. just use Arma 3 or Elite Dangerous. Perhaps Stranded Deep or The Forest if you like I can provide you a huge list but for the love of god for a PC graphics game dont benchmark a console first title that is just stupid.
1. Theres no indies games with "higher end graphics" in fact vast najority of them look like complete crap and run like complete crap. ARMA 3 is no excption. And bonus with indie games is that they NEVER get fixed while most of AAA titles do eventually.
2. No they dont. YOu get "high"+ "ultra"/"hyper""nightmare"" settings, youre RELLY good at making up complete BS lol
3. Most popoluar games are consoles first, who cares about some sitty indie games huh? Its a "success" when indie game sells as many failed AAA title lol an mst of them sell only few thousands and they have no impact whatsoever.
just look at that scam "No Mans Sky" yo indie games, worst game of the decade lol.
And you have no clue that consoles use low level APIs which enables MUCH MUCH better optmizations than PC. DX12/Vulkan are bringing that to PC to certain extent and that POS DX11 should go away ASAP. But you are confused enough as is lol.
"They said the 480's were using about 50% power output"
No they didnt. See, thats why you cant be trusted even when you post a screenshot that disproves what youre saying lol
It certainly doesnt take "100% power output of 2x480" as theyre not fully utilized in that game.
And guess what? Result is true, tested on many many occasions 2x480 beat 1080 even at 170-180% mGPU scaling.
I dont understand how its even possible for someone to always grab the benchmark that makes amd look stronger then nvidia. Thats really bad man. Here some more stuff. If you are using 100% of the power output then you are using 100% of the GPU. Because there is no more power to use.
The CF RX 480s draw ~430VA under load, which is an increase of 190VA over the single card. Note that these tests were conducted with AMD's 16.7.1 driver (compatibility mode disabled). The power consumption of two RX 480s in CrossFire greatly exceeds the power consumption of a single GTX 1070 or GTX 1080, which is obviously expected with a multi-GPU setup. What matters is if that additional draw is accounted for in performance.
And I don't feel like quoting the scores of people and websites that do not find the 2x480's superior to the 1080. They are producing about the same fps no matter how you look at it.
Noone ever said that 2x480 uses less power than single 1080.
OTOH you less fortunate claimed "2x480=2x1080". Yeah not even close lol
Im glad you post stuff that disproves BOTH of you lol you oh so make me laugh with your poor attempts to wiggle out of your BS claims, similar like that "laserit" guy lol
Noone ever said that 2x480 uses less power than single 1080.
OTOH you less fortunate claimed "2x480=2x1080". Yeah not even close lol
Im glad you post stuff that disproves BOTH of you lol you oh so make me laugh with your poor attempts to wiggle out of your BS claims, similar like that "laserit" guy lol
AMD said it. Cant you see their own picture I linked? 50% GPU utilization = 50% power output. Its a complete bullcrap because so far everyone who has tested it comes up with 100% in order to be equal to the 1080.
I never said anything about 2x1080's. To even bring them into this picture is completely unfair to AMD.
They NEVER said 50% power output, you are SO full of it rofl you lie when proof is just few posts ahead, its funny how when it comes to AMD you just lie most of the time lol
just look at this single thread 3 of you just flat out lieing lol
They NEVER said 50% power output, you are SO full of it rofl you lie when proof is just few posts ahead, its funny how when it comes to AMD you just lie most of the time lol
just look at this single thread 3 of you just flat out lieing lol
gpu utilization is power usage. You can't very well use 100% power and only use 50% of the GPU now can you? Think about it.
And? theres 70-75% mGPU scaling in AoTS. now YOU think about it lol
And no "GPU utitlization" isnt "power usage" as youll see that games with "100% utilization" vary greatly in power usage lol
There is no more power to use. So if the AMD cards are only using 50% gpu at 100% power usage it is very poorly optimized. Scaling doesn't matter. What matters is how well the cards are running. And so far everyone on every game has shown them to be equals or nearly equal in fps values. What matters is they are using 100% power and once that happens you cannot do anything because there is no more power to use.
man, you really crack me up. At this point i believe that you dont have a slightest clue what youre talking about.
"100%" usgae is NOT "100% power", if you raise voltage enough P10 can draw 400+W. And you need LN2 to cool it, and if you give it MORE voltage it will use even MORE power lol all at "100% usage" rofl
Noone ever said that 2x480 uses less power than single 1080.
OTOH you less fortunate claimed "2x480=2x1080". Yeah not even close lol
Im glad you post stuff that disproves BOTH of you lol you oh so make me laugh with your poor attempts to wiggle out of your BS claims, similar like that "laserit" guy lol
Look at the AMD chart again. They are saying the dual cards are running at 50% and the Nvidia card is running at 98%. This means the dual cards are capable of doing 2x better then they are on this presentation. Which would also mean that the 480 can do what the 1080 does all by itself. Its a bunch of bullcrap. And listening to your logic then the card is capable of being overclocked 100% which is also bullcrap.
According to the chart and in your mind how do they make the AMD cards use 100% gpu?
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Sorry to interject on this thread it just keeps pooping up on the front page and everytime I read 'Titianfall' it makes my hair stand on end. I will try to displine myself away from this thread
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
AMD totally lied about how the dual 480's perform and their power consumption.
yeah, you shuld definitely stay away from the thread as your contribution is...abbysmal...and competition is definitely fierce for that title lol
Where did they EVER say 2x 480 are using less power than 1080 huh? lieing...agian?
150x2=180x2 now? go back to primary school as that is learned in primary school lol
2nd - there are VERY rare games where mGPU scaling is 100%, and 2x480 beat 1080 at 70% scaling and that mens that every card is doing ~85% load so its 150*0,85*2= 255W nowhere NEAR 2*180= 360W of 2x1080 lol
that is aside from TitianFall itself as a game being anyonying and a representation of most of what is wrong in gaming which to be honest is why it makes my skin crawl but to be fair is off topic.
It being a console game however...in the context of benchmarks for PC, is on topic and in my mind a bad choice
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
ARMA 3 and such broken games are not representation of anything else but techically broken games with severe CPU bottlenecks (for no other reason except incompetent developers that cant unbreak it, or, better to say, they dont give a f..k about it with customers like you who will say "its fine")
This is not about games or "are they good or not as a game", this is about performance which is irrelevant of what you think about the game.
There is a reason why the lol's are #1 on your profile. Kind of strange for such an informative and serious guy.
Peace Out
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
But hey, youre not interested in facts, just PR BS as youve proven by your posting in this thread where you even lie youd buy AMD card if its better....but you didnt, youre such a fanboi youd buy NVidia no matter what like you always had
And there you go, insta LoL rofl
you do relize noone gives a f..k about those and you lot STILL do it, thats how far your obssesions with a brand goes rofl
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
your second part just sounds like your bitter and perhaps confused. you keep talking about 'broken' and I keep telling you repeatedly that I have never had a problem with the game
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Accept the facts, consoles are 80+% of AAA games market. How long have you been gone lol
and here we go again "im bitter" because i dont accept crap im served and call it out.
As i said, enjoy your broken games, be sure to complain a lot next time, you certainly seem like that type lol
2. console first titles literally dial down the graphics on the PC with such clever tactics as locking the FPS at 30 or 60 for example. what other short cuts are they doing?
3. just use Arma 3 or Elite Dangerous. Perhaps Stranded Deep or The Forest if you like I can provide you a huge list but for the love of god for a PC graphics game dont benchmark a console first title that is just stupid.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Does this mean were going steady?
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
It turned out to be false because it took 100% power output for the 2x480s to perform at the level of 1x1080. Which results in the 2x480's using 300w vs the 180w from the 1080. Not quite 2x but its a lot more.
No they didnt. See, thats why you cant be trusted even when you post a screenshot that disproves what youre saying lol
It certainly doesnt take "100% power output of 2x480" as theyre not fully utilized in that game.
And guess what? Result is true, tested on many many occasions 2x480 beat 1080 even at 170-180% mGPU scaling.
2. No they dont. YOu get "high"+ "ultra"/"hyper""nightmare"" settings, youre RELLY good at making up complete BS lol
3. Most popoluar games are consoles first, who cares about some sitty indie games huh? Its a "success" when indie game sells as many failed AAA title lol an mst of them sell only few thousands and they have no impact whatsoever.
just look at that scam "No Mans Sky" yo indie games, worst game of the decade lol.
And you have no clue that consoles use low level APIs which enables MUCH MUCH better optmizations than PC. DX12/Vulkan are bringing that to PC to certain extent and that POS DX11 should go away ASAP. But you are confused enough as is lol.
The CF RX 480s draw ~430VA under load, which is an increase of 190VA over the single card. Note that these tests were conducted with AMD's 16.7.1 driver (compatibility mode disabled). The power consumption of two RX 480s in CrossFire greatly exceeds the power consumption of a single GTX 1070 or GTX 1080, which is obviously expected with a multi-GPU setup. What matters is if that additional draw is accounted for in performance.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2507-crossfire-rx-480-benchmark-vs-1070-and-1080-power-temperatures-fps/page-2
And I don't feel like quoting the scores of people and websites that do not find the 2x480's superior to the 1080. They are producing about the same fps no matter how you look at it.
OTOH you less fortunate claimed "2x480=2x1080". Yeah not even close lol
Im glad you post stuff that disproves BOTH of you lol you oh so make me laugh with your poor attempts to wiggle out of your BS claims, similar like that "laserit" guy lol
I never said anything about 2x1080's. To even bring them into this picture is completely unfair to AMD.
just look at this single thread 3 of you just flat out lieing lol
And no "GPU utitlization" isnt "power usage" as youll see that games with "100% utilization" vary greatly in power usage lol
man, you really crack me up. At this point i believe that you dont have a slightest clue what youre talking about.
"100%" usgae is NOT "100% power", if you raise voltage enough P10 can draw 400+W. And you need LN2 to cool it, and if you give it MORE voltage it will use even MORE power lol all at "100% usage" rofl
What BS claim?
You mean this one?
Golly Gee
And look at them prices
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?N=100007709 600566292&IsNodeId=1&Submit=ENE
Can't wait to listen to your next Hissy Fit @Malabooga
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
According to the chart and in your mind how do they make the AMD cards use 100% gpu?