MMORPGs are just one part of the moral tragedy today. They are corporate recipes to make money. If you're 30 or 40 and still playing these, it's time to do some soul-searching. Take a few days off and play electronic Scrabble or poker. Not as stimulating, huh? Rather chase after every living thing in sight with a weapon? Then don't be surprised when the companies treat you like the child that you aren't. As far as I know, Scrabble, poker, chess, etc. have never changed their rules. MMORPGs, being soulless formulae engineered to earn money, change their rules as a matter of course. A new generation of kids to peddle violent games to, a new generation of rules. As for treating anyone involved in this business as an ally or role model, think again. Anyone whose life business is marketing violent video games to children is not an ally of anyone.
This is just gibberish. People said the same thing about rock 'n' roll when the Beatles came out. Then books, then movies and now we are onto video games. Everything around us has violence in it because we are violent animals. Get over yourself.
So far, this genre has revolved around a very specific formula - using incredibly rigid design paradigms.
Sure, there's been a lot of evolution WITHIN those paradigms - but next to no game has managed to break out of them.
I honestly have no idea why people keep expecting the same entertainment from essentially the same game, over and over.
Why don't you make a new thread about what this rigid design paradigm is and some possible alternatives? I'd like to read it, because I like studying design patterns but I can't personally see MMOs as having a single core one, or even a cluster of closely related ones.
If you've already written this up in the past, just link me to it.
I want to help design and develop a PvE-focused, solo-friendly, sandpark MMO which combines crafting, monster hunting, and story. So PM me if you are starting one.
I miss the days of EQ where there were those who were elite, because they HAD NO LIFE
Proud to say I was once one of them.
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You can't simply become elite because you had no life . In facts , all elite players i meet all are those success in life . They had to success enough in life to support they gaming hobby and skilled enough to play on top of thousand of other .
I miss the days of EQ where there were those who were elite, because they HAD NO LIFE
Proud to say I was once one of them.
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You can't simply become elite because you had no life . In facts , all elite players i meet all are those success in life . They had to success enough in life to support they gaming hobby and skilled enough to play on top of thousand of other .
Some anecdote you got there. But I highly doubt that is the norm. Most likely those people were outliners.
I miss the days of EQ where there were those who were elite, because they HAD NO LIFE
Proud to say I was once one of them.
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You can't simply become elite because you had no life . In facts , all elite players i meet all are those success in life . They had to success enough in life to support they gaming hobby and skilled enough to play on top of thousand of other .
Even if they had no life what is wrong with that? People are so anti bully now, but they have no issue making fun of someone who preferred to spend their time in a game where they could escape societies constant pressure to adhere to restrictions. Then they invade the game space to ensure no one can have fun unless it is on their terms. Someone who gave up most things in life to play a game were sacrificing quite a lot and it wasn't an easy task to sit in front of a computer for hours playing games. It was fairly exhausting as not getting exercise and proper nutritional value from food/drink can wear the body down. It was usually quite a battle of attrition and only those who were determined made it through. Weather it was worth it or not in the end was another issue, but some hand a lot of fun along the way.
I miss the days of EQ where there were those who were elite, because they HAD NO LIFE
Proud to say I was once one of them.
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You can't simply become elite because you had no life . In facts , all elite players i meet all are those success in life . They had to success enough in life to support they gaming hobby and skilled enough to play on top of thousand of other .
What the hell you talking about, most ''elite'' players are living with their parents and masturbating to tentacle porn on hentai sites.
I miss the days of EQ where there were those who were elite, because they HAD NO LIFE
Proud to say I was once one of them.
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You can't simply become elite because you had no life . In facts , all elite players i meet all are those success in life . They had to success enough in life to support they gaming hobby and skilled enough to play on top of thousand of other .
Some anecdote you got there. But I highly doubt that is the norm. Most likely those people were outliners.
Dude, being high level in an MMORPG is the greatest indicator of RL success. The two are inextricably linked.
Although, to be fair, if you find the mundane and repetitive tasks of Eve with no graphical stimulation fun, then you'd probably do pretty well in most office jobs, so what he says might actually be true. Provided you define "success" as making a decent living while spending all of your working hours AND off-hours doing stupid boring shit.
I miss the days of EQ where there were those who were elite, because they HAD NO LIFE
Proud to say I was once one of them.
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You can't simply become elite because you had no life . In facts , all elite players i meet all are those success in life . They had to success enough in life to support they gaming hobby and skilled enough to play on top of thousand of other .
What the hell you talking about, most ''elite'' players are living with their parents and masturbating to tentacle porn on hentai sites.
Are you sure those players "elite" ? It isn't easy task to keep a guild sometime up to hundred running . In old MMORPG , skill don't mean how fast you hit the button but about how you deal with other in game community , and how much you understand the gameplay mechanic .
If i remember right , most "elite" from EQ come to work at WOW after they stop playing EQ .
How many top guild master you know are people who living in basement ? I never see one .
I miss the days of EQ where there were those who were elite, because they HAD NO LIFE
Proud to say I was once one of them.
Fixed for you
You can't simply become elite because you had no life . In facts , all elite players i meet all are those success in life . They had to success enough in life to support they gaming hobby and skilled enough to play on top of thousand of other .
Even if they had no life what is wrong with that? People are so anti bully now, but they have no issue making fun of someone who preferred to spend their time in a game where they could escape societies constant pressure to adhere to restrictions. Then they invade the game space to ensure no one can have fun unless it is on their terms. Someone who gave up most things in life to play a game were sacrificing quite a lot and it wasn't an easy task to sit in front of a computer for hours playing games. It was fairly exhausting as not getting exercise and proper nutritional value from food/drink can wear the body down. It was usually quite a battle of attrition and only those who were determined made it through. Weather it was worth it or not in the end was another issue, but some hand a lot of fun along the way.
Nothing wrong with that , they said MMORPG "elite" player HAD NO LIFE . But in facts , it isn't , at lest the top dogs i knew wasn't .
What i said is MMORPG always require more than just have full time playing . Even if you play full time , if you lacking other skill , you can't become top .
Nothing wrong with that , they said MMORPG "elite" player HAD NO LIFE . But in facts , it isn't , at lest the top dogs i knew wasn't .What i said is MMORPG always require more than just have full time playing . Even if you play full time , if you lacking other skill , you can't become top .
That is true. I used to spend lots of time playing and I was never the best. It was mostly because I didn't want to group much though. It may sound funny, but you had to be alert and responsible in groups because if you died it was hours lost for people. I never had the will to be responsible for 4 to 8 hours a day. It was more relaxing to just solo and take my time. My friend always grouped and he actually leveled up faster than I did. He also got into the raids and got better armor than me. I just liked to show off to him how I could solo with the Necromancer in dangerous locations that he could not lol.
2005 NGE of SWG was the final nail for me, I didn't like changes to WoW already by that point and so I quit that. I played EVE since 2003, I didn't like changes to that either, I've tried to go back since but it's too populated now for me to care.... PVP just isn't the same with so many people. I last played EQ with PoP, I last played PS when BFRs ruined it, EQ2 had an amazing beta, SOE said they were launching in 2 weeks, the forums went crazy saying "it's too early" and they launched it to it's death any ways....
Then there were several years of boring WoW clones to ignore, all missing the mark on what made WoW good in the first place.
Now I have people calling games like Destiny an MMO and the whole genre being pretty much killed off by this new wave of miss identity. Kids don't even get the concept of the MMO any more, the seamless world with thousands of people being in one place. Now GTA V is an MMO to them.....
Constantly however I've had people telling me "maybe you're bored of the genre" or some BS like that. However Nostalrius came out the other year, I played it for a few months until it got shut down with my friend and we had a blast. It brought back why I loved MMOs, it had all the amazing world PVP of when WoW originally launched and funny enough it had challenge again. I know WoW was considered easy mode back in 2004, but my god how far we've fallen since for Vanilla WoW to feel hard to me now.
I remember playing SWG back in 2003 and saying "if this is possible now, then in 10 years I cannot imagine how complex MMOs will be".... well it turned out SWG was the peak when it comes to simulation, mechanics and ideas, nothing would ever come close to what that game tried to achieve, I forgive it for it's sub 20FPS I used to have to play it in lol.
So sad that I barely even come to this site to check any more I finally lost hope. I think the biggest blow was the death of SOE, even if they ruined every one of their MMOs, they never listened to their community and hadn't made anything of any worth since EQ2.... I still had hope. They made SWG, EQ and PS, they were the genre back in the day, they had that vision that I had for it. PS2 despite being crap, they tried to actually make PS again and make it bigger than ever. I hated the direction they took with it, but still it gave me hope for EQN... sadly they died and who is left? Blizzard have said they're pretty much out and despite a load of Asian Devs making their crap, there is no one now, DAOC devs are gone, Bioware wont make another MMO and we wont see Fallout online after the ESO flop....
The genre is dead, Destiny is the future and I'm out!
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"EVE is likely the best MMORPG that you've never really understood or played" - Kyleran
In facts , all elite players i meet all are those success in life . They had to success enough in life to support they gaming hobby and skilled enough to play on top of thousand of other .
not "chasing" or anything. just playing what i enjoy.
the way it should be.
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
Although, to be fair, if you find the mundane and repetitive tasks of Eve with no graphical stimulation fun, then you'd probably do pretty well in most office jobs, so what he says might actually be true. Provided you define "success" as making a decent living while spending all of your working hours AND off-hours doing stupid boring shit.
It isn't easy task to keep a guild sometime up to hundred running . In old MMORPG , skill don't mean how fast you hit the button but about how you deal with other in game community , and how much you understand the gameplay mechanic .
If i remember right , most "elite" from EQ come to work at WOW after they stop playing EQ .
How many top guild master you know are people who living in basement ? I never see one .
What i said is MMORPG always require more than just have full time playing . Even if you play full time , if you lacking other skill , you can't become top .