I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
You don't think that should be the first thing that should be developed when... iunno you open a digital store? An idiot selling their aesthetic dog leash has a fuckin cart system for their one item. It shows how amateur the whole thing is, is the EPIC store made by interns? I make cart systems, they take literally 4hrs to make depending on how crazy indepth they are, but something simple like add/remove keep a cart session, that's easy web programming 101. That is what scares me, if a cart system isn't #1, what else isn't #1?!?
Oh I definitely think it is. But their not prioritizing it is not the same as their skimping or not adding it.
They have always planned on adding it. Why it wasn't something they planned to add as one of the first items, I don't know. I feel it's a small item that should've been one of the first.
I'm just not using that to jump on the hate train and earn my conductor's hat.
Well at least you agree it should have been, that I can accept. The others saying it shouldn't be, that's where I draw the line.
At this point, I'm willing to give Epic the benefit of the doubt the consumer base demands we gave crowdfunded devs. I'm not paying Epic to fund this store, so they deserve more leeway than any of these crowdfunding devs that have repeatedly revised timelines with disappointing progress to show.
That's why I don't understand the vitriol. This coming from the same group of gamers who will throw millions at a wish and a prayer that's delayed over and over and over.
Agreed, I'm not a kickstarter, project hopeful and will never be. I don't understand the concept. I don't understand donating to twitch streamers specifically ones that are already rich from sponsorship to begin with. It's after my time, I guess it's the cool thing to just throw money around? Not sure.
I'm with you on all that, but maybe me being a senior online systems programmer is what is creating the extreme bias against Epic. I know how long stuff takes, I know what is the right way to do it and I'm seeing none of that. If I was down to relocate and didn't just buy a house in my area. I'd apply and fix the shit, clearly they need help since they have over 10 career postings for the website alone.
Of course, but my issue with the entire Epic debacle isn't with folks like you going "huh, a shopping cart seems like a basic necessity, why wasn't it already completed?"
It's folks who can't relegate criticism to only valid complaints or factual critiques, but instead fear-monger, exaggerate, or fallaciously argue for the idea that gamers should be pitchfork and torches over this. Those folks draw my ire and my response in this subject, normally.
Fair point. I don't think it should be "burn it down" more like "proceed with caution".
I would encourage folks to use and abuse it however they see it benefit them the most. Don't wanna give money to exclusive deals or Epic at all? Install it for free and just check in every few weeks to see if you can snag a free game you were looking at.
Do you just wanna play Borderlands? Buy BL3, and otherwise leave the store alone completely. Epic isn't gonna survive this endeavor on folks buying one game once, so rest assured you aren't keeping them afloat with your love of BL3.
Of course, it starts to seem hypocritical if someone was to use the store, then come here doom-calling and trashing Epic. But only if you don't stick to the factual "this is not a feature included" kind of arguments.
Galaxy 2 isn't going to take top store frontend but it will take top launcher if it really is going to be as easy as they make it sounds. So really unrelated for the topic at hand.
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Galaxy 2 isn't going to take top store frontend but it will take top launcher if it really is going to be as easy as they make it sounds. So really unrelated for the topic at hand.
Not entirely unrelated. All this Epic talk about exclusives and their shenanigans prompted me to buy games from everyone except Epic. Besides, I'd rather focus on the positives of the market than the negatives.
In other news, THQ Nordic acquired Piranha Bytes (Gothic, Risen, Elex, etc.)
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
You don't think that should be the first thing that should be developed when... iunno you open a digital store? An idiot selling their aesthetic dog leash has a fuckin cart system for their one item. It shows how amateur the whole thing is, is the EPIC store made by interns? I make cart systems, they take literally 4hrs to make depending on how crazy indepth they are, but something simple like add/remove keep a cart session, that's easy web programming 101. That is what scares me, if a cart system isn't #1, what else isn't #1?!?
Oh I definitely think it is. But their not prioritizing it is not the same as their skimping or not adding it.
They have always planned on adding it. Why it wasn't something they planned to add as one of the first items, I don't know. I feel it's a small item that should've been one of the first.
I'm just not using that to jump on the hate train and earn my conductor's hat.
Well at least you agree it should have been, that I can accept. The others saying it shouldn't be, that's where I draw the line.
I take it you are referring to me. I'm not saying that a shopping cart shouldn't be implemented. I am saying that it is of low priority because there are more important things to implement first.
As I said above - just treat it as Early Access.
A Shopping Cart is on the list of features to be added and most of the features will be added this year. As far as priorities go mine would be getting publishers to add their games to the store so that a cart is actually needed! As it stands I doubt many people are purchasing multiple items at the same time.
Did you miss the news on the purchasers that were complaining they were getting "fraud protected" by buying a few games in quick succession and getting locked out? You know what would have fixed that? Ya that's right a shopping cart, a plain Jane nothing complicated shopping cart. Again the shopping cart is just an example of easy to show incompetence, but I'm more worried about how the whole thing is designed.
Or, you know, changing a setting that would have taken 2 minutes to approve and change instead of a couple of days, to implement and go through code review, QA and the other usual crap that goes along with working in a company with other people. Sure, they were shortsighted about how their anti-fraud features were set up but that doesn't mean that they need to implement a mostly-useless feature before they have stabilized their core functionality.
I will agree that they could have made other preparations/had other options to deal with the situation. But I'll agree to disagree that a cart system is useless. I see a cart system as core to any shopping platform. I think that's where we see things differently, our expectations are different.
I just can't see something that saves 10 seconds in 3 months as useful. If it was a physical store where you have to make arrangements for delivery and often shop for more than one item at a time - sure. But this is a digital store where games release very rarely and apart from when there is a sale going on you are very unlikely to buy more than one item at a time.
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Frankly, I don't know how he finds the courage to look down on people.
Do you just wanna play Borderlands? Buy BL3, and otherwise leave the store alone completely. Epic isn't gonna survive this endeavor on folks buying one game once, so rest assured you aren't keeping them afloat with your love of BL3.
Of course, it starts to seem hypocritical if someone was to use the store, then come here doom-calling and trashing Epic. But only if you don't stick to the factual "this is not a feature included" kind of arguments.
In other news, THQ Nordic acquired Piranha Bytes (Gothic, Risen, Elex, etc.)
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