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Despite Refunds, Cyberpunk 2077 has Sold Over 13 Million Copies | MMORPG.com

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  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member EpicPosts: 1,144
    edited December 2020
    remsleep said:
    Aeander said:
    I also wanted to point out how the stock market and investors are the real devils of our world these days. This impact or power control that investors have...they should all be burned. We'd be better off without them.
    You do realize that basically everyone with a 401K or equivalent retirement account is an investor, right?
    Bingo. 

    You'd have to reform the entire global financial system to get rid of investors, not saying reform isn't needed but can't just cut out something out of the middle without redoing the whole thing
    Wow, you guys are so wrong.  The stock is not in the major indexes... like the S&P 500 or the Nasdaq 100.  

    Their are tons of mutual fund options in 401ks (stocks and non stocks) that I doubt have a polish high risk company stock in their portfolio.

    Saying "everyone", is nonsense.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    edited December 2020
    remsleep said:
    Aeander said:
    I also wanted to point out how the stock market and investors are the real devils of our world these days. This impact or power control that investors have...they should all be burned. We'd be better off without them.
    You do realize that basically everyone with a 401K or equivalent retirement account is an investor, right?
    Bingo. 

    You'd have to reform the entire global financial system to get rid of investors, not saying reform isn't needed but can't just cut out something out of the middle without redoing the whole thing
    Wow, you guys are so wrong.  The stock is not in the major indexes... like the S&P 500 or the Nasdaq 100.  

    Their are tons of mutual fund options in 401ks (stocks and non stocks) that I doubt have a polish high risk company stock in their portfolio.

    Saying "everyone", is nonsense.
    A balanced stock portfolio consists of low and high risk options.

    When I say everyone is an investor, I mean that everyone is an investor. I do not mean that everyone is an investor in CDProjekt. Even in the realm of video games, not every investor is a independent wealthy shark intent on demanding cashgrab releases. There are, for example pension funds invested into EA.

    You can make anyone sound like an idiot by hyperbolizing their argument.
    Kyleran
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Extremes on both sides help me to paint a balanced picture.  

    Doesn't help me any. I dismiss extremes outright as the outliers they are.

    In games I don't play and can't see what's what for myself I try to filter out the extremes and only pay attention to those doing their best to present a balanced opinion all by themselves.

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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,053
    Iselin said:
    Extremes on both sides help me to paint a balanced picture.  

    Doesn't help me any. I dismiss extremes outright as the outliers they are.

    In games I don't play and can't see what's what for myself I try to filter out the extremes and only pay attention to those doing their best to present a balanced opinion all by themselves.

    I like to hear player extremes because as a creator I like to know things that trigger.
     
    You’re having a field day with this one then. Not even Pavlov would be able to handle this many triggers.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir 
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    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,423
    remsleep said:
    Kyleran said:
    remsleep said:
    I just want to say damn remsleep you need a life or to fix your own. The game is a good timesink but sorry that it can't allow you to live your entire life in it. Yikes you crazy.

    I am crazy for thinking this is a 7/10 game that was released too early and it simply needed more development time to bring it to 9/10.

    Yes that is a totally insane idea.
    I dunno man, I've been playing a 7/10 game (FO76) exclusively for the past 15 months and well realize some games are never going to reach 9/10, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Maybe it's time you find a new windmill to tilt at?



    Merry Christmas Kano.

    There is nothing else out there til New World launches. 

    New world better have their shit together... I am ready

    Also nothing wrong with enjoying 7/10 games, but don't expect me to stay quiet about jt when the CEO from CDPR was shouting how their goal was a 9/10 game on Metacritic and that nothing else would do.

    Not gonna stay quiet about that,  also the bullshit they fed the media prior to launch "runs exceptionally well on PS4"

    Please... FO76 never went to this level of lies

    At least FO76 has open world gameplay with other players... what does Cyberpunk have in comparison.. yep fuck all.
    New World will not "have their shit together", this seems quite obvious to me, the hype will once again vastly inflate expectations and we will be faced with a game that is not the saviour of MMOland. Probably more polished, that's about it.
  • GreenSage39GreenSage39 Member UncommonPosts: 144
    edited December 2020
    Aeander said:
    I also wanted to point out how the stock market and investors are the real devils of our world these days. This impact or power control that investors have...they should all be burned. We'd be better off without them.
    You do realize that basically everyone with a 401K or equivalent retirement account is an investor, right?

    Yep, and the 401k's and hedge funds are sinking ships right now. More than other investments because 401k's tend to sit with the "long game" like automobiles (cough...hence the bailouts), airplanes, (and lately) energy, and retail and long-term things. Which in the 'rona...everything flip flops. Which will make the blood they pump from every penny work double time.

    So I guess we could say the investment firms themselves then are the Devil's Lietuanants. :P
  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member EpicPosts: 1,144
    edited December 2020
    Aeander said:
    I also wanted to point out how the stock market and investors are the real devils of our world these days. This impact or power control that investors have...they should all be burned. We'd be better off without them.
    You do realize that basically everyone with a 401K or equivalent retirement account is an investor, right?

    Yep, and the 401k's and hedge funds are sinking ships right now. More than other investments because 401k's tend to sit with the "long game" like automobiles (cough...hence the bailouts), airplanes, (and lately) energy, and retail and long-term things. Which in the 'rona...everything flip flops. Which will make the blood they pump from every penny work double time.

    So I guess we could say the investment firms themselves then are the Devil's Lietuanants. :P
    401ks have investment options. Varying on the company you work for, most have conservative to high growth (high risk) options.  Most have a S&P 500 equivalent option with tiny fees  ;)

    95% of the market fails to beat the S&P over the long run.  FYI.
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