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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
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    All of my Fallout "training" is finally going to come in useful.

    Lemme grab my power armor and automatic combat shotgun, time to roll.





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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Just ask the North American Indigenous people’s how herd immunity worked out for them back in the day. If I remember correctly they ended up losing around 35% of their population.

    If mother nature is smart, she will know what she has to do to save this planet. It only takes a couple milliseconds in geological time for us to destroy it.

     I never thought that we we’re so collectively stupid. Maybe we do need kings and dictators to tell us what to do.

     
    Kyleran

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    edited November 2021
    Rungar said:
    Scot said:
    Our societies have got out of the habit of washing our hands, it makes good sense to wash your hands when you get up, come home, before you have a meal and going to bed. When you have a pandemic washing them before you go out makes sense too, if it did not already.

    And this is not just a forum with "gaming geeks" on it, we have some "biology geeks" too. :)


    its actually a double edged sword. Preventing exposure doesn't build immunity. Its often better, but not always, to get something and get it over with, than to forever run from it. 

    for 99+% of people no intervention was required for the latest flu aka covid. The interventions have accomplished nothing but medical tyranny. The unfit will still die. 

    Natural immunity is always better than the latest concoction. You'll figure that out this winter and over the next few years I would imagine when the altar of science comes tumbling down on your heads. 

    immune system like all your systems are reactive systems. Fail to properly exercise these systems and they atrophy leaving you vulnerable. The old style vaccines  at least worked because you reacted to them as they stimulated the immune system by design. 

    The new stuff..doesnt do that.. your on your own with that. It wont end well. A stake in the heart if you ask me.  

     
    Preventative measures are just that preventative, they are not meant to cure anyone or make them immune. They do slow down the spread and decrease the risk of contracting pathogens. If you get a vaccine it increases your immunity and helps you safely develop natural immunity.

    The sort of measures I have mentioned are quite reasonable considering we have a pandemic and expecting people to wash their hands even when there is no pandemic is hardly medical tyranny. But you are right that we have become a society that does not value natural immunity as much as we used to. I do wonder what the effect of children hardly going outside to play now will have on their natural immunity?
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Scot said:
    Rungar said:
    Scot said:
    Our societies have got out of the habit of washing our hands, it makes good sense to wash your hands when you get up, come home, before you have a meal and going to bed. When you have a pandemic washing them before you go out makes sense too, if it did not already.

    And this is not just a forum with "gaming geeks" on it, we have some "biology geeks" too. :)


    its actually a double edged sword. Preventing exposure doesn't build immunity. Its often better, but not always, to get something and get it over with, than to forever run from it. 

    for 99+% of people no intervention was required for the latest flu aka covid. The interventions have accomplished nothing but medical tyranny. The unfit will still die. 

    Natural immunity is always better than the latest concoction. You'll figure that out this winter and over the next few years I would imagine when the altar of science comes tumbling down on your heads. 

    immune system like all your systems are reactive systems. Fail to properly exercise these systems and they atrophy leaving you vulnerable. The old style vaccines  at least worked because you reacted to them as they stimulated the immune system by design. 

    The new stuff..doesnt do that.. your on your own with that. It wont end well. A stake in the heart if you ask me.  

     
    Preventative measures are just that preventative, they are not meant to cure anyone or make them immune. They do slow down the spread and decrease the risk of contracting pathogens. If you get a vaccine it increases your immunity and helps you safely develop natural immunity.

    The sort of measures I have mentioned are quite reasonable considering we have a pandemic and expecting people to wash their hands even when there is no pandemic is hardly medical tyranny. But you are right that we have become a society that does not value natural immunity as much as we used to. I do wonder what the effect of children hardly going outside to play now will have on their natural immunity?
    I’m sure Lysol has plenty of studies;)

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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    edited November 2021
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.
    Unicron Transformers GIF - Unicron Transformers Blow - Discover amp Share GIFs
    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.
    The variant is Omicron, not Omnicron.
    MendelKyleran
     
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Vrika said:
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.
    The variant is Omicron, not Omnicron.
    Eyebrows Surprised GIFs  Tenor
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.

    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
    I'm pretty sure that the Greek letters that they name variants after are much older than Transformers.
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.

    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
    I'm pretty sure that the Greek letters that they name variants after are much older than Transformers.

    The irony is Nu or Xi should have been used next in naming a new strain but they did not want to insult Xi .. lol ..
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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319
    Scorchien said:
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.

    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
    I'm pretty sure that the Greek letters that they name variants after are much older than Transformers.

    The irony is Nu or Xi should have been used next in naming a new strain but they did not want to insult Xi .. lol ..
    And they couldn't call it nu covid because that would truly freak people out.
    Scorchien

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Scorchien said:
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.

    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
    I'm pretty sure that the Greek letters that they name variants after are much older than Transformers.

    The irony is Nu or Xi should have been used next in naming a new strain but they did not want to insult Xi .. lol ..
    I call all of the variants Xi.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.

    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
    I'm pretty sure that the Greek letters that they name variants after are much older than Transformers.
    You may be a poster in disguise, but I know Decepticon talk when I hear it!
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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.

    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
    I'm pretty sure that the Greek letters that they name variants after are much older than Transformers.
    Debatable
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.

    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
    I'm pretty sure that the Greek letters that they name variants after are much older than Transformers.
    As a matter of fact, you are wrong. Generation One crash land on pre-historic Earth in the Ark and the Nemesis. That predates ancient Greece's alphabet. 

    You are welcome. 

    ;)
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  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 7,081
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.

    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
    I'm pretty sure that the Greek letters that they name variants after are much older than Transformers.
    As a matter of fact, you are wrong. Generation One crash land on pre-historic Earth in the Ark and the Nemesis. That predates ancient Greece's alphabet. 

    You are welcome. 

    ;)
    Not sure on any of this, but one thing I know is pizza and hot wings came way later.


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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Fun fact - Omnicron, the new covid variant apperas to be named after the transformer Unicron.

    "Unicron is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother Primus Covid Prime. Also known as the Lord of Chaos, the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater."
    I'm pretty sure that the Greek letters that they name variants after are much older than Transformers.
    As a matter of fact, you are wrong. Generation One crash land on pre-historic Earth in the Ark and the Nemesis. That predates ancient Greece's alphabet. 

    You are welcome. 

    ;)
    Right.. the Dinobots.
    maskedweasel
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Apparently the known cases of the new variant have all been mild so far.  That could just be a fluke, as most cases of COVID are mild.  The problem is the several percent of COVID cases that end up being really nasty.

    If we get lucky, then there will be a new variant that:

    1)  is contagious enough to beat out previous variants,
    2)  is similar enough to previous variants that having had the new variant and recovered gives you strong immunity to other variants, and
    3)  is mild enough to basically just be the common cold.

    Because that would basically herald the end of needing to care about COVID any more than you care about the common cold.  I'm not predicting that it will happen, but it's at least plausible that it could at some point.

    If that sounds implausible, then consider that it happened with the other four coronaviruses:  229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.  We don't know if they ever had a phase where they were as nasty as COVID-19 is today.  But then again, if COVID-19 had appeared centuries ago, with so few older or otherwise high-risk people alive then, it might have taken the world quite a while to realize that it was something new.
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  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,208
    Iselin said:
    Quizzical said:
    Iselin said:
    Few if any of us are scientists in the field. Generally case studies show that most masks don't prevent you from getting covid but they do prevent the spread of it. That only works if everyone who is infected wears one and since so many people fight it, it's never going to happen which makes transmission possible. 


    They're not meant to protect YOU. They prevent your large droplets from getting out into the environment. It's one step up from sneezing or coughing into your elbow except they also stop some of the airborne droplets that are also spewed out when just talking. That's all those masks have ever been meant to do.

    For self protection, you need something in the respirator category starting at fitted N95 masks and going up from that.
    For the most part, it's symmetric.  It's not the case that COVID viruses can easily pass through a mask in one direction by are completely blocked from passing through in the opposite direction.  If masks protect you from catching COVID from others, then they protect others from you, and vice versa.

    Cloth masks can catch large droplets such as from sneezing.  But for the most part, that's not how COVID spreads.  Large droplets hit the ground pretty quickly anyway, so unless you're sneezing on someone, sneezing on the ground isn't really any different from sneezing into a mask.  The problem is that COVID spreads effectively through much smaller droplets that go right through cloth masks.
    Viruses spread through both large and small droplets - the large ones containing possibly thousands of times more virus, and coronaviruses on surfaces, which are not conveniently just the ground, can remain viable and infectious for hours or even days.

    Like I said, it's just common courtesy to others no different, but slightly better, than covering your mouth when you cough or sneeze.

    The information is readily available out there from reliable sources. Bottom line is that masks and distance helps.

    I'm not going to quibble over exactly how much it helps on a forum with gaming geeks lol.





    Anyone that believes cloth masks filter Covid must also believe wearing underwear filters farts.
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  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 7,081
    edited November 2021
    Deathkon1 said:
    ringdany said:
    Looks like we're all pretty much up shit creek without a paddle
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/26/who-to-assess-new-highly-mutated-covid-19-variant-as-countries-ramp-up-health-checks
    You guys reckon we should till play mmos while things fall to dust around us? Or should we start learning some survival tech or something, and why or why not?
    https://i.imgur.com/OSgnEzd.mp4
    We've been fucked well before this shit with the virus happened 1971 baby lol if not earlier until the full effect of collapse and decay hits we should focus on having fun with those we have left in our lives that we feel matter and try not to think/stress out about the stuff none us can control

    Speaking from experience worrying about something out of your control only serves to waste energy and ruin your own mental health just go with the flow and let whatever happens happen

    On a side note I was in scouts and I watched dooms day prepper along with knowing first aid multiple useful knots and weaving twigs into cooking wear and baskets, along with how to make primitive water filters I think im educated enough at least more then the usual run of the mill 25 year old 

    Short story short if the virus doesnt kill us the debt of left for the future generation will
    Too bad all this scout prepper stuff is worthless this day and age, unless you have a hundred mile radius of no population, and that's close to impossible to have now. 

    Weaving twigs in no longer needed when manufacturing pots and pans for the last 50 years puts items like that in abundance where it's not priority.

    The larger problem is surviving in an urban or city. In the early days before everyone kills half the population over starvation from food distribution and paranoia. It's more like who do you trust to not stab you in the back who's your friends......Will you be the lucky few that survives the first few waves of de population to an acceptable level, where people can relax and be comfortable with each other that are left ?  



    I can go on and on for hours with how it would go down in an abrupt event, but that's not how it would go anyway...... its meant for slow non violent collapse of many rich countries......One day you'll wake up and realize your living in a third world country. 


  • RungarRungar Member RarePosts: 1,132
    edited November 2021
    like any good magician this is mostly just misdirection. Your busy with the right hand while the trick is carried out in the left, unnoticed. 

    the banking cartel and friends are consolidating the real wealth of the world. If a lot of people die that's great business for them because everybody, including your country, is in debt to them and and if those left cant pay the bill, that will speed up the process. Unlikely they will lose control. 

    Instead you'll just be culled, sickened, ground down, demoralized and beat up until they own everything and you have nothing. Death by a million cuts sums it up pretty good. 

    what do they need you for? China is their new host and you are scheduled be replaced with a more obedient slave. 

    the only thing that is likely to collapse is your ethnicity depending on who you are.  

    to answer the question though, I wont likely be playing mmo's. Not because of any proposed collapse but because there really are none to play. 

    I mostly just lament them now. 
    Post edited by Rungar on
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    Guys this is going into conspiracy theory territory, the staff may close the thread down and I for one could not blame them.
    KidRiskKyleranYashaXmaskedweasel
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Scot said:
    Guys this is going into conspiracy theory territory, the staff may close the thread down and I for one could not blame them.
    Don't worry mate. We can start a new thread, they are free. 

    ;)
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited November 2021
    Brainy said:
    Iselin said:
    Quizzical said:
    Iselin said:
    Few if any of us are scientists in the field. Generally case studies show that most masks don't prevent you from getting covid but they do prevent the spread of it. That only works if everyone who is infected wears one and since so many people fight it, it's never going to happen which makes transmission possible. 


    They're not meant to protect YOU. They prevent your large droplets from getting out into the environment. It's one step up from sneezing or coughing into your elbow except they also stop some of the airborne droplets that are also spewed out when just talking. That's all those masks have ever been meant to do.

    For self protection, you need something in the respirator category starting at fitted N95 masks and going up from that.
    For the most part, it's symmetric.  It's not the case that COVID viruses can easily pass through a mask in one direction by are completely blocked from passing through in the opposite direction.  If masks protect you from catching COVID from others, then they protect others from you, and vice versa.

    Cloth masks can catch large droplets such as from sneezing.  But for the most part, that's not how COVID spreads.  Large droplets hit the ground pretty quickly anyway, so unless you're sneezing on someone, sneezing on the ground isn't really any different from sneezing into a mask.  The problem is that COVID spreads effectively through much smaller droplets that go right through cloth masks.
    Viruses spread through both large and small droplets - the large ones containing possibly thousands of times more virus, and coronaviruses on surfaces, which are not conveniently just the ground, can remain viable and infectious for hours or even days.

    Like I said, it's just common courtesy to others no different, but slightly better, than covering your mouth when you cough or sneeze.

    The information is readily available out there from reliable sources. Bottom line is that masks and distance helps.

    I'm not going to quibble over exactly how much it helps on a forum with gaming geeks lol.





    Anyone that believes cloth masks filter Covid must also believe wearing underwear filters farts.
    Check your shorts to see if they have a shit stain, see how many microscopic shit particles are in your shorts.

    Masks don’t stop the spreading of Covid, but they sure do help in slowing the spread down.

    That is not an opinion.

    edited for clarity.
    Post edited by laserit on
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  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 5,852
    Quizzical said:
    Apparently the known cases of the new variant have all been mild so far.  That could just be a fluke, as most cases of COVID are mild.  The problem is the several percent of COVID cases that end up being really nasty.

    If we get lucky, then there will be a new variant that:

    1)  is contagious enough to beat out previous variants,
    2)  is similar enough to previous variants that having had the new variant and recovered gives you strong immunity to other variants, and
    3)  is mild enough to basically just be the common cold.

    Because that would basically herald the end of needing to care about COVID any more than you care about the common cold.  I'm not predicting that it will happen, but it's at least plausible that it could at some point.

    If that sounds implausible, then consider that it happened with the other four coronaviruses:  229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.  We don't know if they ever had a phase where they were as nasty as COVID-19 is today.  But then again, if COVID-19 had appeared centuries ago, with so few older or otherwise high-risk people alive then, it might have taken the world quite a while to realize that it was something new.
    That's spot on. And just the way nature works. 
    Mendel

    Once upon a time....

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