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  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    Kratier said:
    too early to be dealing with people who do nothing but lie . if you can't make a point or argue any reasons why bother ?

    oh my goodness, and this guy, you literally had the entire page full because you quoted his 3 page rant, and then made a 1 sentence comment about some stupid movies in your post

    it is way too early for this shit.

    I quoted @TwistedSister77 to mention The Town, not @klash2def, you absolute buffoon.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    klash2def said:
    So these people you are complaining about for Lost Ark have actually described themselves as "incels"?

    I find that skeptical but am open to being shown...



    I never said the Lost Ark complainers described themselves as anything. 


    Actually you did.  Wargfoot attempted to point out that you were calling the Lost Ark complainers incels but knew nothing about them
    Wargfoot said:

    Furthermore, you don't actually know the sex lives of these random people on the internet and the paragraphs you write breaking down their mental state is pure fantasy writing on your part - you literally have no idea whatsoever but use this lame attack to write up a psychological strawman that you then burn to the ground.




    To which YOU responded:


    klash2def said:

    Nah nope. They call themselves that stupid shit. You aren't about to sit here and act like I personally made this up. The oxford definition is below.

    To which you again responded by inferring that HE was an incel:
    klash2def said:
     For you to not feel as if it's a personal attack, you def are defending it like it's a personal attack.

    and

      Again, for you to not be affected you sure are acting affected.

    There is a continual pattern where you try and put anyone who disagrees with you into some broad group that you then insult. Here it's "incels", previously it was "Powder wigs" and "Boomers", etc...   

    I have always found it more constructive to treat people like individuals.   Sometimes a person is just an asshole because that is who they are, not because they belong to a particular group. In this case, it seems like the posters being discussed are just that... assholes.  Not incels or anything else.


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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Would Someone from the "outrage" side please explain to me what's wrong with the western version of the game? Please be precise if possible. 
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  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    edited February 2022
    Would Someone from the "outrage" side please explain to me what's wrong with the western version of the game? Please be precise if possible. 
    I already wasted my time, so I'll save you wasting yours:

    https://files.catbox.moe/bk1d52.jpg

    https://files.catbox.moe/qxvcp1.png

    If you're looking at that second one and having trouble even immediately recognizing what was changed...  You're not alone.

    Tempest in a teapot, indeed.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    Those links above do not work for me

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  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    They are image links from this reddit thread:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/o5kn6t/psa_what_we_know_so_far_of_the_censorship_and/

    Your comment would also explain why they didn't work right using the img tag when I tried it.
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485
    edited February 2022
    You all trying to emulate the community on the Steam forums now? :D
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    They are image links from this reddit thread:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/o5kn6t/psa_what_we_know_so_far_of_the_censorship_and/

    Your comment would also explain why they didn't work right using the img tag when I tried it.
    Hmm.. I cant open them from the reddit site either..  /shrug  Oh well.

    On the PLUS SIDE... downloading currently so 23 hours from now I will see for myself.

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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Would Someone from the "outrage" side please explain to me what's wrong with the western version of the game? Please be precise if possible. 
    I already wasted my time, so I'll save you wasting yours:

    https://files.catbox.moe/bk1d52.jpg

    https://files.catbox.moe/qxvcp1.png

    If you're looking at that second one and having trouble even immediately recognizing what was changed...  You're not alone.

    Tempest in a teapot, indeed.
    Is that really it? That's all?
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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    edited February 2022
    Would Someone from the "outrage" side please explain to me what's wrong with the western version of the game? Please be precise if possible. 
    I already wasted my time, so I'll save you wasting yours:

    https://files.catbox.moe/bk1d52.jpg

    https://files.catbox.moe/qxvcp1.png

    If you're looking at that second one and having trouble even immediately recognizing what was changed...  You're not alone.

    Tempest in a teapot, indeed.
    FFS is that all. :D that is nothing to cry about. 

    The second one is the skin colour obviously. Dumbass nonsense

    Koreans are quite colour conscious most Asians are. I know I am a dark Indian women. Won't belief the grief I got growing up.

    However when you bring a game like this to the West no harm in changing the skin colour of the characters at all or giving darker skin options. Stupid thing to cry about.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Kyleran said:
    Well sure, just like every game has a positive group of content creators, i.e EVE, definitely are some big jerks including some who provide pretty good content, such as Goons.

    All games have negative and positive sides to their communities, and I do my best to associate only with those on the high side.


    Wait wait wait.  By high side, do you mean the positive side, or.....


    image
    Yes.

    ;)
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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    edited February 2022
    No underboob lol who cares.

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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Please someone tell me there is more to this drama and not just those two images. 
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    OK all those responses made me track it down.  For some reason it seems like Comcast rejects connections to that site... so I had to use my cell.

    Anyhow.. yeah.. umm.. that seems like some innocuous regionalization changes and I actually prefer the new version in both cases.

    To each their own.
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  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    Would Someone from the "outrage" side please explain to me what's wrong with the western version of the game? Please be precise if possible. 
    I already wasted my time, so I'll save you wasting yours:

    https://files.catbox.moe/bk1d52.jpg

    https://files.catbox.moe/qxvcp1.png

    If you're looking at that second one and having trouble even immediately recognizing what was changed...  You're not alone.

    Tempest in a teapot, indeed.
    Is that really it? That's all?
    It really is surrounding some skin palette changes and some toned down art assets from what I've been able to find Googling.  Sorry @Slapshot1188 I'm not sure what's going on with those links.

    I, a North American, don't fancy the skimpy armor outfits.  I don't dislike Asian art or want little house on the priarie style dresses for women, but I find those skimpy outfits less immersive as combat armor.  It makes it harder for me to achieve suspension of disbelief.  It just doesn't seem like rational armor choices to me for someone who is entering deadly combat.  So from my perspective, it looks like Amazon is simply trying to adopt some of the art to more western tastes.  But that's my personal perspective.

    They could also be wary of ESRB ratings and/or plan to market toward a younger demo, too.  All sensible and rational choices for a business to make imo.
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Well if people are getting out of shape for that one inch of missing boob then "incel" sounds kind-hearted and actually more of a promotion. And I don't want to get into the "blackface" observation, I refuse to believe someone has actually got offended by that image. They must be just trolling. 
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    cheyane said:


    The second one is the skin colour obviously. Dumbass nonsense


    Second one looks better with the changes.
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  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member EpicPosts: 1,144
    Well, here it is discussed and shown in detail... 


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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949

    I said what I said. if anybody got their panties in a bunch about how im talking about incels and incel behavior then it's likely they too are fucking incels and I dont have any sympathy for them or their ilk. 


    It's crazy how all I said was this is incel behavior (because it is.) and instead of addressing the fucked up behavior...you want to address ME for calling it out. You want to police ME. Im convinced you only do this shit because you know im black. All the commenters that came at me disrespectfully and when I respond accordingly you want to point at me. Shit is hilarious. 

    You are also very inconsistent. You want to come at me for saying "MMO gamers that hang on to old traditions and refuse to see anything good in today's MMOs are powder wigs" but anytime somebody says something about younger people, you awesome it or dont say shit. You did it in this thread. "younger ages tend to get in f2p games and are on average less mature." Ring a bell? You agreed. ageist. Hypocrite.

    FTR I find older people are far more immature than younger people in gaming. 

    IM the only person you come at for his opinions on a consistent basis. 

    Im not going to address any of the other bullshit you said because it's all cherry-picking and leaving out context or straight-up lies. The good thing is people can go back and read for themselves what I wrote with context to how people responded to it and I responded to them. 

    I dont disrespect or slight ANYONE unless they disrespect or slight me first. SO I love how you left out everything others said to me.. you think it lets you paint me as an off-hinges black dude that just attacks everyone for no reason. Im bored of your micro-aggression bullshit, come up with something new. 

    Again you will do/say anything to attack my character because you dont like what I write because what I write probably fits you. There is no other reason. Only a hit dog howls when you walk by. I never engage with you, I never mention you, it's always YOU coming to jump on my comments to well actually me to death. You have a weird boner for me. 

    Dude, I didn't even respond to your first two quote posts because you are like a gnat that wants attention from me. 

    everyone can see it. 

    Personally, I think you're still mad that I was right about Destiny and New World. And the fact that I have a huge curved sword that you cant touch. 


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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    edited February 2022
    Well, here it is discussed and shown in detail... 




    Funny enough around the 12:30 mark he is literally saying the same shit I said in my OG post about representation in LOTR. How in American Pop Culture Fantasy is something that all people no matter the race want to see themselves represented. I disagree with saying 'the rest of the world is okay with just having their culture represented in their media" well sure but that's because America is unique because it's the only place with so many different cultures in one place.  It's not just one culture even though people outside the country think it is.  IF there is one culture it's POP culture and American POP culture is made of every other culture in America. 



    I can't make this shit up @Slapshot1188 btw 4:55 dude literally says only boomer men are playing new world. You aren't going to say shit about this or the person that posted it because it's only offensive if it has something to do with me. Proof that it's not my message it's the fact that it's Me saying it. Something about me bothers you A LOT. Every single thread I'm in, this guy hops in it policing everything I write. I never am talking to you. I told you I'm not interested.

    Literally called me out in this thread for things I said in the past (not calling anyone specifically a boomer or powder wig)  that arent wrong... I was just explaining why those terms exist in the first place. (Rigid thinking). I literally explained it and all he came up with was I'm calling someone here a boomer or a powder wig which I didn't do. 

    Again dude straight lies and cherry-picks.  
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  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    I approached my GF about the issue to see what she thought, and she seemed to find the Asian versions less appealing than the western ones, too.

    She wasn't offended.  But she liked the westernized armors better.  Sometimes (most times?!?), when it comes to business, it's not about being politically correct; simply widely palatable.
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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,556
    This thread lol...

    DGAF about toxic community or pixel visual changes...

    Been waiting for this game since it was first announced in SK so will be happily playing soon.
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