They originally had the concept for each game 6-8 months, and from the time they announced the game to April is 8 months. If they fail to come out with the game at that date, they missed their target date.
It is the nature of the industry to go beyond target dates however, but in the interview with Adam Getti, he said they were different. I guess not.
Originally posted by Altex44 They originally had the concept for each game 6-8 months, and from the time they announced the game to April is 8 months. If they fail to come out with the game at that date, they missed their target date. It is the nature of the industry to go beyond target dates however, but in the interview with Adam Getti, he said they were different. I guess not.
I don't mean to be offensive, but you sound like an impatient little brat. If you would read the FAQ's and the forums over on mmocenter you will see that they are different in their game making and their game The Chronicle itself will be revolutionary. Please show me a game that is CURRENTLY out that is just like The Chronicle.
Originally posted by Altex44 They originally had the concept for each game 6-8 months, and from the time they announced the game to April is 8 months. If they fail to come out with the game at that date, they missed their target date. It is the nature of the industry to go beyond target dates however, but in the interview with Adam Getti, he said they were different. I guess not.
I don't mean to be offensive, but you sound like an impatient little brat. If you would read the FAQ's and the forums over on mmocenter you will see that they are different in their game making and their game The Chronicle itself will be revolutionary. Please show me a game that is CURRENTLY out that is just like The Chronicle.
I don't mean to sound like an "impatient little brat" but they are overdue on their own deadline. I was not talking about the game itself. In reality a game like this should take years to develop like most mmos. People should be held accountable for what they said. RR said TC will be out within 6-8 months, Too bad they were wrong on their own deadline.
There are no other games out like the model of TC, however, that does not excuse the fact that they missed their target date.
They were on target for a 6-8month release of the game, but then in december, they bought out another company and along with that company came their new engine. So, as you can tell from that statement, it pushed back the release date of the game quite a bit.
Trust me though, after seeing what this game looked like before/after the engine upgrade...I'm happy to wait while they port everything over and recode as nessasary. It's worth it.
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Originally posted by Altex44 They originally had the concept for each game 6-8 months, and from the time they announced the game to April is 8 months. If they fail to come out with the game at that date, they missed their target date. It is the nature of the industry to go beyond target dates however, but in the interview with Adam Getti, he said they were different. I guess not.
I don't mean to be offensive, but you sound like an impatient little brat. If you would read the FAQ's and the forums over on mmocenter you will see that they are different in their game making and their game The Chronicle itself will be revolutionary. Please show me a game that is CURRENTLY out that is just like The Chronicle.
I don't mean to sound like an "impatient little brat" but they are overdue on their own deadline. I was not talking about the game itself. In reality a game like this should take years to develop like most mmos. People should be held accountable for what they said. RR said TC will be out within 6-8 months, Too bad they were wrong on their own deadline.
There are no other games out like the model of TC, however, that does not excuse the fact that they missed their target date.
Yep, sounds like something you would never ever do. You have never been late and are perfect to the T.
Really though. This is a new company with high ambitions. Try to be understanding instead of overly critical. RR really does talk with us on a regular basis and listens to their community on what they want in a game. These people are kind and respectful and deserve the same in return. So what if they are a few months over due or even a half a year if it means the game will be released complete.
I'd just like to mention that Dark and Light is still in production, and has not been released.
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Correct. If patience isn't one of your virtues then MMO's aren't for you. Your best just getting a console or 1p computer game. I'm starting to think that MMO's shouldn't let themselves be know until a few months before they really are ready for closed beta because of people that are impatient as you. That way when they announce the closed beta of the game you will only have to wait 3 months vrs the 3 years you didn't know about when they were developing the game.
I would not spend 5 years wasting away my life trying to find a great game like some of the dark and light fans did. Enough said about dark and ilght. If you spend months waiting for a game or even a movie then it should come out - not to hear it post poned a month before release - that just brings your hopes up and then shooting down.
How do you know they won't postpone the date again? They are overdue on their first one. Look at the past - maybe they will yet again get a new engine of some sort... It does not seem feasible for a game this revolutionary to be out in 6-8 months and RR already has proved it.
Think years - not months - there will be many problems with the new permadeath system and "EAI"
Just because some people want to wait a few more years for a game, others, do not.
TC will be out in just a couple years...have fun waiting!
well..per their site they are now working on a new, seperate mmorpg now too.
for the love of god get one close to beta before you start taking on more and more crap games! if anyone liked EA they would have had more than 1000 customers!.
if we wanted a 'africaaa mmorpg' we would have looked for that one, not the chronicle.(and yes, this is the latest game they are undertaking..) africa!
get your stuff together and get working on one, just one game until you have at least something substantial...and by substantion i dont mean a couple pictures of a goblin!
[quote]Originally posted by fulmanfu(btw cg, is the refund still offered?)[/b][/quote] It was an offer for those who did not like the switch from Kaneva to Aura. More then enough time has passed since this switch, that PreOrder offer has expired.
As we've said on the Forums. Africa, in no way, effects the Development of The Chronicle or Endless Ages.
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lol exacrly what i expected on both accounts. you are no longer a fan cg you are a full fledged f.o.s. team member now!
hate to get negative but its hard not to, now you got what, 18 games 'in develpment' and zero close to playable. that includes the unplayable endless agest that was playable 6 years ago lol.
sorry dude but you guys lost me and i dont care anymore.
sorry dude but you guys lost me and i dont care anymore.
Great, now go away!
The Africa MMO is bringing in a good amount of investment into RR. Africast is the #1 ... Number ONE broadcasting company in Africa. Its a new source of investment that is allowing RR to add assets that BENEFIT all the other games in development. Its a great opportunity for RR to delve into a brand new genre thats never been even attempted before. Most likely because of ignorant ppl that write off Africa because they know nothing about it.
Go back to DnL and bury your heard there ... oh wait, you can't, its STILL not ready.
Great, now go away! The Africa MMO is bringing in a good amount of investment into RR. Africast is the #1 ... Number ONE broadcasting company in Africa. Its a new source of investment that is allowing RR to add assets that BENEFIT all the other games in development. Its a great opportunity for RR to delve into a brand new genre thats never been even attempted before.
They seem to be stretched too thin now, are they seriously creating 3 games at once now or did they stop the machines in order to get TC out? Seriously they are adding assets but they are undertaking too many large projects at once. I would suggest RR to postpone Machines until TC is out, unless they already have.
Before Africa - they bought EA which is - totally crap, I can't see how anyone would like that crap - it's a poor game and I doubt RR has any resources to improving - they do get some revenue however from it though, not much to cover the expenses of this whole enterprise.
They also have some revenue from the pre-order scheme - depending on how many people didn't already refund. However they do have alot of expenses from labor and they are operating at a net loss for some time.
I think Africa could be done only if TC is done before June - That would give them six months devoting their time to a whole new MMO by the target release date of December. TC would allow RR to expand their resources because from the monthly revenues of TC. And if TC becomes one of the best games ever on the market - which is unlikely becaues there is not that much marketing for this game - then RR could expand depending on the management of RR.
That is a long shot but could be done with good and sound management
And the worst case scenario - do what DnL team has done - 5 years in development and nothing to show for it.
Considering that we've all been waiting less than a year total for TC, I think comparisons to D&L are a little bit overstating the matter at this time. RR isn't the only small, independent development house out there trying to make a game that's different, either. They're just the ones that have proposed a fast development cycle... and, let's face it, ya have to take that with a grain of salt. I mean, I could estimate that it will take me 20 minutes to write a paper from an outline I already have, based on what I know about it right now and what I've done so far, but that's being really optimistic. Now, as long as I get my paper done before class on Thursday, it's fine, even if I miss that 20 minute deadline.. As long as RR can turn out ONE game within the more-or-less standard 2-3 years, they're at least hitting the average mark.
Africa looks more interesting to me anyway, whether or not it pulls any resources from TC. After all, how many times can you be/kill an elf before you do want to do something new? Well, I suppose some people can do the traditional fantasy setting indefinitely, but I am always looking for something I haven't seen before.
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Originally posted by brando13184 Africast is the #1 ... Number ONE broadcasting company in Africa. .
lmao thats like bragging that i could win jeapordy because i am the smartest person in remedial math class
anyway my complaints have nothing to do with liking/disliking the concept of the africa game, i would guess i would like them if i could actualy get on the site they link(which we cant, as of yesterday anyway). its the fact they keep taking on more stuff saying it will not deley the original games. WHEN IT ALREADY HAS DELAYED THE ORIGINAL GAMES, NO MATTER WHAT WAY YOU SPIN IT
oh and for the totally clueless my sig is a dig on dark and light, not a fanboi tag..i know tought one to figure out o.O
Yes they are the ones with the fastest development cycle - but that means it is a new idea and the mmo community are trying to figure out if it can actually work. They have one of the most ambitious plans out there - but that is why you have to question it.
If a company says that they will release a game in 6 months when a game usually takes 2-3 years - you have to question it.
Criticisms in general spark debate and help more people understand what is going on. Therefore that being said - they are overdue on their target date - so their first game will not be 6-8 months development cycle. Will it be 8-12 months, or maybe 1-2 years? How about 2-3 years. Games take time - it is a long shot to get a game out in 6-8 months with a small team.
Why go into and find a game to be 100% with a company that may or may not succeed. If you do that, then you might as well be in a cult. Ask tough questions, get answers and learn from them.
Time will tell whether this company can actually do what is planned.
Originally posted by brando13184 Africast is the #1 ... Number ONE broadcasting company in Africa. .
lmao thats like bragging that i could win jeapordy because i am the smartest person in remedial math class
anyway my complaints have nothing to do with liking/disliking the concept of the africa game, i would guess i would like them if i could actualy get on the site they link(which we cant, as of yesterday anyway). its the fact they keep taking on more stuff saying it will not deley the original games. WHEN IT ALREADY HAS DELAYED THE ORIGINAL GAMES, NO MATTER WHAT WAY YOU SPIN IT
oh and for the totally clueless my sig is a dig on dark and light, not a fanboi tag..i know tought one to figure out o.O
You should do more research and talk with the developers more. When they take on more games they also take on more dev teams. It's not like they started out with (example only) 15 devs for TC then split those same devs amongst each game that comes out. No, instead they add 15 more ( example only remember) for each additional game. Your argument is only valid if they were splitting their resources that they already have on TC up, but they are not. With new games come new resources.
Now there is no more sense in arguing this point unless you insist on calling RR liars when they told the community this.
There is a difference between saying it and actually doing something. Let's look at RR's actions in the past few months.
June 2005 - Announcement of the service.
June through November 4 months in between developing TC
August Pre-order scheme.
November - Adam Ghetti interview with Ogaming about 6-8 month development cycles
December - Aquisition of MMOLands - which diverts some management of the game to EA and those problems. The reshuffling of resources devoting to TC and EA, Scrapping the engine of TC and putting in the new "aura" engine.
January - Changing TC to the Aura engine. - Taking up resources
Feburary - Announcement of a new game - Africa mmo - Saying that they are not diverting ANY resources to Africa mmo - when they are operating at a loss. Hmmm? How can they be hiring MORE people even when they are operating at a loss. Saying they are developing 3 games at once will not affect any schedule of releases. IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT AFRICA DOES NOT DIVERT ANY RESOURCES YOU ARE WRONG. MONEY AND PROGRAMMERS ARE BEING DIVERTED TO THE AFRICA MMO. When they are currently undertaking a new project it means that they are diverting resources to it. Simple as that.
Febuary 8th - Here we are about 6 months from the announcement of TC and the service and they aren't even close to beta. How many more surprise announcements are there going to be?
How can a small company be making 2 or 3 games at once when they have little or no revenue? There must be millions invested in this to make this work. Now we are beginning to see the real effects that there is no more 6-8 month development cycles, but just announced by Adam Ghetti with MTV that there will be 8-12 month development cycles. Hmmm?
Sometimes people say things and do the opposite. Just because they said it doesn't mean it will happen. Well we know we won't get the game at the target 6-8 month development cycle how about the 8-12 month development cycle - how about the 3-5 year development cycle? Just because they came up with a 6-8 month development cycle does not mean that they will have a game out 10 days after it, it means it could be years and I just wanted to point that out. If you want evidence look at the website - they haven't updated it for months. The FAQ is horrible and leads people to different conclusions about the game. They said that they are going to update it but they never did...So how can you be 100% behidn this company if they don't live up to their promises?
They are not even close to finishing TC and I doubt Africa will be out by December as they have announced.
Is this all there is to talk about? This is all I ever see when I look at these forums. Christ, if you don't think it's coming out, you should be looking for a new game. If you're worried that you might lose your pre-order money, well, maybe you shouldn't be so quick to throw your money at whoever promises you a good game. It sounds like a great game, I'll give it a try when it comes out. Just calm down and wait and see what happends.
Originally posted by Altex44 There is a difference between saying it and actually doing something. Let's look at RR's actions in the past few months. June 2005 - Announcement of the service. June through November 4 months in between developing TC August Pre-order scheme. November - Adam Ghetti interview with Ogaming about 6-8 month development cycles December - Aquisition of MMOLands - which diverts some management of the game to EA and those problems. The reshuffling of resources devoting to TC and EA, Scrapping the engine of TC and putting in the new "aura" engine. January - Changing TC to the Aura engine. - Taking up resources Feburary - Announcement of a new game - Africa mmo - Saying that they are not diverting ANY resources to Africa mmo - when they are operating at a loss. Hmmm? How can they be hiring MORE people even when they are operating at a loss. Saying they are developing 3 games at once will not affect any schedule of releases. IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT AFRICA DOES NOT DIVERT ANY RESOURCES YOU ARE WRONG. MONEY AND PROGRAMMERS ARE BEING DIVERTED TO THE AFRICA MMO. When they are currently undertaking a new project it means that they are diverting resources to it. Simple as that. Febuary 8th - Here we are about 6 months from the announcement of TC and the service and they aren't even close to beta. How many more surprise announcements are there going to be? How can a small company be making 2 or 3 games at once when they have little or no revenue? There must be millions invested in this to make this work. Now we are beginning to see the real effects that there is no more 6-8 month development cycles, but just announced by Adam Ghetti with MTV that there will be 8-12 month development cycles. Hmmm? Sometimes people say things and do the opposite. Just because they said it doesn't mean it will happen. Well we know we won't get the game at the target 6-8 month development cycle how about the 8-12 month development cycle - how about the 3-5 year development cycle? Just because they came up with a 6-8 month development cycle does not mean that they will have a game out 10 days after it, it means it could be years and I just wanted to point that out. If you want evidence look at the website - they haven't updated it for months. The FAQ is horrible and leads people to different conclusions about the game. They said that they are going to update it but they never did...So how can you be 100% behidn this company if they don't live up to their promises? They are not even close to finishing TC and I doubt Africa will be out by December as they have announced.
I've read their FAQ's and see nothing wrong with them. Care to point out exactly what's wrong with them that leads you to believe something else that they don't intend to do? Because if you can I will submit it and I know CG will fix it. He does that sort of thing since he works there ya know. You are wrong and need to reread my previous post. When they signed on Africa they aquired their people to do the game, not give up ours. The more companies you sign on the more money you have. Now you do the math. Besides don't pretend like you read the account books they have and know where and how much funding they get. RR said they would have a game out in 6-8 months not just 6. It just now hit 8 months, but you need to take in to consideration that they switched to a new engine. So I would give them another few months to switch things over and finish their job before I start counting the chickens before they hatch. Otherwise they are on schedule according to RR. The people behind RR are human just like you and me. I know you don't hold yourself to the same standard of being punctual, because if your a father, student or anything else that may call for you to change your schedule at the last minute, you would have had to be late before. Now calling RR liars for being late is like calling you a liar because you have been late before. It just doesn't make sense. Remember to treat others the way you would like to be treated. If you hold them to one standard, you should hold yourself to the same. RR has been nothing but kind and courteous and your pretty much being a jerk back to them.
Originally posted by daraknor Where did April come from? I'm not allowed to show you any content, but this is not shades of grey. The new engine is much better. PHYSICS! Not to mention kick ass graphics.
THe expected date is Q2 it's in their forums. As I said before mmorpg.com usually lists the beginning of a quarter when it's given. Has nothing to do with "better" it has to do with if that level of engine was their desire they should of made that investment from the begining. At somepoint Rapid Reality had to approach mmlands(?) about merging and something had to instigate that choice. You can believe that the change just happened one day out of the thin air if you want...but the truth is that at some point rapid Reality realised that the original engine they had wasn't going to give them the quality they wanted.
Originally posted by Altex44 They originally had the concept for each game 6-8 months, and from the time they announced the game to April is 8 months. If they fail to come out with the game at that date, they missed their target date. It is the nature of the industry to go beyond target dates however, but in the interview with Adam Getti, he said they were different. I guess not.
I don't mean to be offensive, but you sound like an impatient little brat. If you would read the FAQ's and the forums over on mmocenter you will see that they are different in their game making and their game The Chronicle itself will be revolutionary. Please show me a game that is CURRENTLY out that is just like The Chronicle.
Well none, but then again the Chronical isn't out yet either. And, I can list many MMORPG that have had similar ideas as the Chronical and either never released or relesed far short of that exxpectation.
They're releasing africa because about these days 100 million laptops will be freely ditributed on the continent. I'd also say that they do have new resources for the game, atleast that's what they stated in their forum. And really, I'm not paranoid enough to think that people generally lie when they state something.
Keeping it simple, they do have an innovative concept for online gaming. Since the SWG kill I have been waiting for something like this, and actually also have preordered TC. RR do IMO have a vision that goes beyond the usual of mmocreators today. On the dark side again, it bothers me they don't have updated the site for some time. And newsmails has been quite scarce also.
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They originally had the concept for each game 6-8 months, and from the time they announced the game to April is 8 months. If they fail to come out with the game at that date, they missed their target date.
It is the nature of the industry to go beyond target dates however, but in the interview with Adam Getti, he said they were different. I guess not.
I don't mean to be offensive, but you sound like an impatient little brat. If you would read the FAQ's and the forums over on mmocenter you will see that they are different in their game making and their game The Chronicle itself will be revolutionary. Please show me a game that is CURRENTLY out that is just like The Chronicle.
I don't mean to sound like an "impatient little brat" but they are overdue on their own deadline. I was not talking about the game itself. In reality a game like this should take years to develop like most mmos. People should be held accountable for what they said. RR said TC will be out within 6-8 months, Too bad they were wrong on their own deadline.
There are no other games out like the model of TC, however, that does not excuse the fact that they missed their target date.
They were on target for a 6-8month release of the game, but then in december, they bought out another company and along with that company came their new engine. So, as you can tell from that statement, it pushed back the release date of the game quite a bit.
Trust me though, after seeing what this game looked like before/after the engine upgrade...I'm happy to wait while they port everything over and recode as nessasary. It's worth it.
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I don't mean to be offensive, but you sound like an impatient little brat. If you would read the FAQ's and the forums over on mmocenter you will see that they are different in their game making and their game The Chronicle itself will be revolutionary. Please show me a game that is CURRENTLY out that is just like The Chronicle.
I don't mean to sound like an "impatient little brat" but they are overdue on their own deadline. I was not talking about the game itself. In reality a game like this should take years to develop like most mmos. People should be held accountable for what they said. RR said TC will be out within 6-8 months, Too bad they were wrong on their own deadline.
There are no other games out like the model of TC, however, that does not excuse the fact that they missed their target date.
Yep, sounds like something you would never ever do. You have never been late and are perfect to the T.
Really though. This is a new company with high ambitions. Try to be understanding instead of overly critical. RR really does talk with us on a regular basis and listens to their community on what they want in a game. These people are kind and respectful and deserve the same in return. So what if they are a few months over due or even a half a year if it means the game will be released complete.
"So what if they are a few months over due or even a half a year if it means the game will be released complete."
Said Dark and Light fans 2 years ago.
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I'd just like to mention that Dark and Light is still in production, and has not been released.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
I would not spend 5 years wasting away my life trying to find a great game like some of the dark and light fans did. Enough said about dark and ilght. If you spend months waiting for a game or even a movie then it should come out - not to hear it post poned a month before release - that just brings your hopes up and then shooting down.
How do you know they won't postpone the date again? They are overdue on their first one. Look at the past - maybe they will yet again get a new engine of some sort... It does not seem feasible for a game this revolutionary to be out in 6-8 months and RR already has proved it.
Think years - not months - there will be many problems with the new permadeath system and "EAI"
Just because some people want to wait a few more years for a game, others, do not.
TC will be out in just a couple years...have fun waiting!
well..per their site they are now working on a new, seperate mmorpg now too.
for the love of god get one close to beta before you start taking on more and more crap games! if anyone liked EA they would have had more than 1000 customers!.
if we wanted a 'africaaa mmorpg' we would have looked for that one, not the chronicle.(and yes, this is the latest game they are undertaking..) africa!
get your stuff together and get working on one, just one game until you have at least something substantial...and by substantion i dont mean a couple pictures of a goblin!
(btw cg, is the refund still offered?)
[quote]Originally posted by fulmanfu(btw cg, is the refund still offered?)[/b][/quote]
It was an offer for those who did not like the switch from Kaneva to Aura. More then enough time has passed since this switch, that PreOrder offer has expired.
As we've said on the Forums. Africa, in no way, effects the Development of The Chronicle or Endless Ages.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
lol exacrly what i expected on both accounts. you are no longer a fan cg you are a full fledged f.o.s. team member now!
hate to get negative but its hard not to, now you got what, 18 games 'in develpment' and zero close to playable. that includes the unplayable endless agest that was playable 6 years ago lol.
sorry dude but you guys lost me and i dont care anymore.
Great, now go away!
The Africa MMO is bringing in a good amount of investment into RR. Africast is the #1 ... Number ONE broadcasting company in Africa. Its a new source of investment that is allowing RR to add assets that BENEFIT all the other games in development. Its a great opportunity for RR to delve into a brand new genre thats never been even attempted before. Most likely because of ignorant ppl that write off Africa because they know nothing about it.
Go back to DnL and bury your heard there ... oh wait, you can't, its STILL not ready.
They seem to be stretched too thin now, are they seriously creating 3 games at once now or did they stop the machines in order to get TC out? Seriously they are adding assets but they are undertaking too many large projects at once. I would suggest RR to postpone Machines until TC is out, unless they already have.
Before Africa - they bought EA which is - totally crap, I can't see how anyone would like that crap - it's a poor game and I doubt RR has any resources to improving - they do get some revenue however from it though, not much to cover the expenses of this whole enterprise.
They also have some revenue from the pre-order scheme - depending on how many people didn't already refund. However they do have alot of expenses from labor and they are operating at a net loss for some time.
I think Africa could be done only if TC is done before June - That would give them six months devoting their time to a whole new MMO by the target release date of December. TC would allow RR to expand their resources because from the monthly revenues of TC. And if TC becomes one of the best games ever on the market - which is unlikely becaues there is not that much marketing for this game - then RR could expand depending on the management of RR.
That is a long shot but could be done with good and sound management
And the worst case scenario - do what DnL team has done - 5 years in development and nothing to show for it.
Considering that we've all been waiting less than a year total for TC, I think comparisons to D&L are a little bit overstating the matter at this time. RR isn't the only small, independent development house out there trying to make a game that's different, either. They're just the ones that have proposed a fast development cycle... and, let's face it, ya have to take that with a grain of salt. I mean, I could estimate that it will take me 20 minutes to write a paper from an outline I already have, based on what I know about it right now and what I've done so far, but that's being really optimistic. Now, as long as I get my paper done before class on Thursday, it's fine, even if I miss that 20 minute deadline.. As long as RR can turn out ONE game within the more-or-less standard 2-3 years, they're at least hitting the average mark.
Africa looks more interesting to me anyway, whether or not it pulls any resources from TC. After all, how many times can you be/kill an elf before you do want to do something new? Well, I suppose some people can do the traditional fantasy setting indefinitely, but I am always looking for something I haven't seen before.
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.
lmao thats like bragging that i could win jeapordy because i am the smartest person in remedial math class
anyway my complaints have nothing to do with liking/disliking the concept of the africa game, i would guess i would like them if i could actualy get on the site they link(which we cant, as of yesterday anyway). its the fact they keep taking on more stuff saying it will not deley the original games. WHEN IT ALREADY HAS DELAYED THE ORIGINAL GAMES, NO MATTER WHAT WAY YOU SPIN IT
oh and for the totally clueless my sig is a dig on dark and light, not a fanboi tag..i know tought one to figure out o.O
Yes they are the ones with the fastest development cycle - but that means it is a new idea and the mmo community are trying to figure out if it can actually work. They have one of the most ambitious plans out there - but that is why you have to question it.
If a company says that they will release a game in 6 months when a game usually takes 2-3 years - you have to question it.
Criticisms in general spark debate and help more people understand what is going on. Therefore that being said - they are overdue on their target date - so their first game will not be 6-8 months development cycle. Will it be 8-12 months, or maybe 1-2 years? How about 2-3 years. Games take time - it is a long shot to get a game out in 6-8 months with a small team.
Why go into and find a game to be 100% with a company that may or may not succeed. If you do that, then you might as well be in a cult. Ask tough questions, get answers and learn from them.
Time will tell whether this company can actually do what is planned.
lmao thats like bragging that i could win jeapordy because i am the smartest person in remedial math class
anyway my complaints have nothing to do with liking/disliking the concept of the africa game, i would guess i would like them if i could actualy get on the site they link(which we cant, as of yesterday anyway). its the fact they keep taking on more stuff saying it will not deley the original games. WHEN IT ALREADY HAS DELAYED THE ORIGINAL GAMES, NO MATTER WHAT WAY YOU SPIN IT
oh and for the totally clueless my sig is a dig on dark and light, not a fanboi tag..i know tought one to figure out o.O
You should do more research and talk with the developers more. When they take on more games they also take on more dev teams. It's not like they started out with (example only) 15 devs for TC then split those same devs amongst each game that comes out. No, instead they add 15 more ( example only remember) for each additional game. Your argument is only valid if they were splitting their resources that they already have on TC up, but they are not. With new games come new resources.
Now there is no more sense in arguing this point unless you insist on calling RR liars when they told the community this.
There is a difference between saying it and actually doing something. Let's look at RR's actions in the past few months.
June 2005 - Announcement of the service.
June through November 4 months in between developing TC
August Pre-order scheme.
November - Adam Ghetti interview with Ogaming about 6-8 month development cycles
December - Aquisition of MMOLands - which diverts some management of the game to EA and those problems. The reshuffling of resources devoting to TC and EA, Scrapping the engine of TC and putting in the new "aura" engine.
January - Changing TC to the Aura engine. - Taking up resources
Feburary - Announcement of a new game - Africa mmo - Saying that they are not diverting ANY resources to Africa mmo - when they are operating at a loss. Hmmm? How can they be hiring MORE people even when they are operating at a loss. Saying they are developing 3 games at once will not affect any schedule of releases. IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT AFRICA DOES NOT DIVERT ANY RESOURCES YOU ARE WRONG. MONEY AND PROGRAMMERS ARE BEING DIVERTED TO THE AFRICA MMO. When they are currently undertaking a new project it means that they are diverting resources to it. Simple as that.
Febuary 8th - Here we are about 6 months from the announcement of TC and the service and they aren't even close to beta. How many more surprise announcements are there going to be?
How can a small company be making 2 or 3 games at once when they have little or no revenue? There must be millions invested in this to make this work. Now we are beginning to see the real effects that there is no more 6-8 month development cycles, but just announced by Adam Ghetti with MTV that there will be 8-12 month development cycles. Hmmm?
Sometimes people say things and do the opposite. Just because they said it doesn't mean it will happen. Well we know we won't get the game at the target 6-8 month development cycle how about the 8-12 month development cycle - how about the 3-5 year development cycle? Just because they came up with a 6-8 month development cycle does not mean that they will have a game out 10 days after it, it means it could be years and I just wanted to point that out. If you want evidence look at the website - they haven't updated it for months. The FAQ is horrible and leads people to different conclusions about the game. They said that they are going to update it but they never did...So how can you be 100% behidn this company if they don't live up to their promises?
They are not even close to finishing TC and I doubt Africa will be out by December as they have announced.
Is this all there is to talk about? This is all I ever see when I look at these forums. Christ, if you don't think it's coming out, you should be looking for a new game. If you're worried that you might lose your pre-order money, well, maybe you shouldn't be so quick to throw your money at whoever promises you a good game. It sounds like a great game, I'll give it a try when it comes out. Just calm down and wait and see what happends.
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Well none, but then again the Chronical isn't out yet either. And, I can list many MMORPG that have had similar ideas as the Chronical and either never released or relesed far short of that exxpectation.
"Please show me a game that is CURRENTLY out that is just like The Chronicle. "
A game with the same features as the Chronicle? Duke Nukem Forever?
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They're releasing africa because about these days 100 million laptops will be freely ditributed on the continent. I'd also say that they do have new resources for the game, atleast that's what they stated in their forum. And really, I'm not paranoid enough to think that people generally lie when they state something.
Keeping it simple, they do have an innovative concept for online gaming. Since the SWG kill I have been waiting for something like this, and actually also have preordered TC. RR do IMO have a vision that goes beyond the usual of mmocreators today. On the dark side again, it bothers me they don't have updated the site for some time. And newsmails has been quite scarce also.