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NGE "Gamestar" Magazine Review: 84 %
Erillion
Member EpicPosts: 10,329
Happy New Year to all of you,
just got my "Gamestar" magazine. Thats the largest PC game magazine in the German speaking area. They did a review about NGE (SWG New Version as they call it) and all expansions with a final number of :
84 %
Yes, they did ask Veterans (a veteran and a new player/journalist did the review together and they did ask two veteran gamers). Yes, they have included a bug warning and took it into account when computing the rating. Yes, they have discussed the pros and cons that we have discussed here for months now.
In summary their opinion was : Necessary changes , exciting quests, buggy.
If people are interested I can post the more detailed numbers per category. Frankly speaking I expected a review with a much lower rating, but hey ... surprises happen.
Have fun
Erillion
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Not sure how you can take bugs into account and give anything an 80% plus. That to me sounds like they threw in the bug notice just so they wouldn't get flooded with mail on it because they were giving it a good review. But so be it!
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Changes were not necessary, fixing the original game was. But they didn't do that did they? They had to spend precious resources and time on PUB 9, JTL, CURB, ROTW and ToOW instead of making the game they initially released work. That is why SWG failed.
Nearly anyone can be bought.
And they asked two vets? Versus how many noobs?
One also has to wonder the age, sex and gamestyle of the one vet journalist. I'm almost willing to wager that it's under 25, male with a preferance for Tribes and Quake style games with a heavy background in console titles. Not to cast aspersions on young guys who enjoy shooters, but they're just not representative of the mmorpg community in general -- and swg is being marketed as an mmorpg.
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Both journalists male, over 28, under 40. One is the specialist for games with 300 page manuals :-) (and he considered SWG too complex). The other is heavy into MMorpgs. Not one of them is known to play Quake style game for any length of time - to the contary. None of them plays a lot of console games.
(they have presented quite a lot of info about the journalists and what they play, what they like, what they do over the months and years in that magazine).
Have fun
Erillion
PS: They ask between 2 and 4 gamers about their opinion about certain existing games in articles (some articles, not all of them).
Yeah but SWG doesn't deserve 84% now :
- quests are lacking and boring
- Nothing to do
- no diversity
- Everyone uses the same skills
- Jedi starter profession
- too many buggs
- Pre vs post NGE jedi components are bugged
- stats matter nothing
- No decay
- entertainers and crafters r useless
etc. etc.
Just sooo boring now, whats the point :
Erillion has always been a fanboy tbh.
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How can he be a fanboy when he quit the game almost a month ago? Because of the NGE I might add?
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
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All I saw him do was report a review of the game. I haven't seen him defend it in as long as I have.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Fact 1 : I have not quit the game. I am playing less, hoping that they are hotfixing most of the errors soon.
Fact 2 : I have reported the result of a review, not posted my personal opinion. This result had surprised me.
Fact 3 : The opinion of the journalists does not have to be the same as the opinion of some of the posters here.
Have fun
Erillion
PS:
Here is a link to the homepage of the magazine. http://www.gamestar.de/index.html (and yes, its in german :-)
OMG you have to be kidding me!!! To anyone reading this DO NOT BUY GALAXIES!!! SOE are liers and theives!!! I played for a long time and built my character to a perfect image of how i would be!!! ALL and i mean ALL of my stuff and choices are worthless after they braught out this joke of a change!!! NGE ruined the game and they will do it again dont trust them at all!!! and on top of all that the game is barley out of beta but it has been out for two years !!! When you jump you do the running man....i havnt seen that since an 8 bit system!!! Trust me is a 1/10 and im insulted that this site would lead you on like that for som publicity!!! TRUST ME DONT BUY THE GAME IT IS REALLY BAD!!! the game was amazing for the last 2.5 years but now its a joke save yourself the time!!
and if i get flammed i dont care cause the one flaming me didnt pay 1000$ and spend hundreds of hours making their character, city, friends, house decor, vendors ext
SOE YOU SUCK STOP LIEING ABOUT YOUR GAME!!!THEY HAVE CHANGED IT ONCE THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN
The fan boy population has dramatically declined. Without naming names, when the CU was rolling out, this topic was as active as it is today. Difference was there were a slew more fanboys instead of really just the one or two now.
Many times, people who were against the CU and SOE, we told them, it will happen to you. The incompetance level of SOE just hassent affected you yet but it will be coming. They continued with their blind faith and now those same people have either dissapeared, no longer boosting the game, or have finally seen the light and give SOE all the "bad" credit that it deserves.
People are finally getting the clue that we've been telling them. Its not "if" SOE screws them over, its "when".
SOE YOU SUCK STOP LIEING ABOUT YOUR GAME!!!THEY HAVE CHANGED IT ONCE THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN
{(RIP)} SWG
Excellent choices there Slick...
Why put bias in your poll instead of just having yes or no answers?
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
Well pornography involving defication is pretty popular over there too. Don't make it right.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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{(RIP)} SWG
OMG dude, you nailed it right there! I left when CU was implemented into the game. Man did I get
flamed for talking trash about it too. Peep defending that game almost a year ago.
Now those same peep, slamming NGE.
What next, the new NGE peeps saying the game sucks and a whole new breed of SWGers in 6 to 8
months?! ROFL
to the original poster...
84% .. if thats what makes you play that piece of crap game, go for it.
I got a hundred other reviews that say that game is a not even 50%. Just read the New York Times.
Enjoy the kiddy game! That game is for fanbois anyways now. I thought CU was bad.
SWG shouldnt be declared a MMORPG anymore. Just a wanna be...
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
Yes, yes you are the one true God we all bow to your supreme wisdom...Or we would if you could show my one post where YOU said it would happen to everyone else.
Let's not forget, it wasn't "blind faith" we were going on, we were enjoying the game. For 2 years I enjoyed SWG, that's why I had faith in SOE. For a year I've enjoyed EQ2. For 7 years people have enjoyed EQ, you think maybe that's why people were defending it? They enjoyed the game? Hmm interesting concept don't you think?
Originally posted by Scorpes
The fan boy population has dramatically declined. Without naming names, when the CU was rolling out, this topic was as active as it is today. Difference was there were a slew more fanboys instead of really just the one or two now.
Many times, people who were against the CU and SOE, we told them, it will happen to you. The incompetance level of SOE just hassent affected you yet but it will be coming. They continued with their blind faith and now those same people have either dissapeared, no longer boosting the game, or have finally seen the light and give SOE all the "bad" credit that it deserves.
People are finally getting the clue that we've been telling them. Its not "if" SOE screws them over, its "when".
Originally posted by Jodokai
Yes, yes you are the one true God we all bow to your supreme wisdom...Or we would if you could show my one post where YOU said it would happen to everyone else.
Let's not forget, it wasn't "blind faith" we were going on, we were enjoying the game. For 2 years I enjoyed SWG, that's why I had faith in SOE. For a year I've enjoyed EQ2. For 7 years people have enjoyed EQ, you think maybe that's why people were defending it? They enjoyed the game? Hmm interesting concept don't you think?
Stating the obvious does not make me any smarter or greater than anyone else. The fault lies in you not understanding the simplicity of deduction so that it seems like magic to you. Just because you are unable to comprehend the fact that SOE does not respect nor reward loyalty doesnt make everyone smarter. It just makes you ignorant.
Another "obvious" prediction would be those who love the NGE like the ones who loved the CU will also get shafted. Does that seem somehow to be a goddly prediction as you claim? Anyone with a clear head on their shoulders know full well that any enjoyment in this game is short lived. You never know when SOE will arbitrarily take away everything you love and tell you, "piss off, this is for the newbs"
As for Gamestar, SOE didnt pay them, theyre smalltime, SOE wouldnt bother so my paranoia doesnt run that deep. It just simply doesnt make sense. Truth of the matter is some people do enjoy the NGE, out of hundreds of thousands of people theirs bound to be a few hundred at least. Who's tio say out of those few hundred some arent writers to some third string gaming magazine in a small market?
let's not hijack this thread
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Changes were not necessary, fixing the original game was. But they didn't do that did they? They had to spend precious resources and time on PUB 9, JTL, CURB, ROTW and ToOW instead of making the game they initially released work. That is why SWG failed.
There is some truth in this but also after playing the nge for a few days now and speaking to some people i used to know that are still in it i feel that players are the root of the problem along with some greed from SoE.
From the first 3 months SoE has openly shown they were not happy with the 300k or so accounts for SWG.
I recall back at the start the community was made largely of roleplayers intrested in the SWG storyline as many of the would be jedis have left in fustration of not opening the FS slot.
At that time SoE was making some effort of fixing the combat,bugs,mounts and player cities.
However the jedi forum had more posts then any other profession forum by a long mile and i think this is where SoE felt(and probably right too) that people more intrested in jedis outweighted those who cared about fixes and storyline.
Thus entered "the return of the jedi" era .Bug fixes grinded to a almost total halt.Classes other then jedi were totally ignored .Storyline down the drain.In came hologram grinding and tbh i think the population picked up then despite the fact the overall game and mechanics was going down the drain.
Jedis lost skill reset on death and safely travelled around theed in large numbers(all thanks to again whining).
Now why i bring this is just to show the crop of players who replaced the original crowd ,of which one is an online friend (opened his slot as one of first on server).
I recall him actually telling us to chill out about other classes been fixed,a better combat system and bugs as the developers are busy with jedis atm(again true they were).
Now do you really blame SoE for making jedi a regaular profession if the word "jedi" is enough to make people disregard everything else.
I think what the above poster said is totally right.The game at launch should have been fixed first and foremost vefore anything else.But players themselves were willing to ignore everything just to see one aspect of the game be released to them and made super powerful .
I am sorry but even now by surfing this site,the offical forum and actual encounter with "elder jedis" ingame(i post a nice story on this later it was funny ) i come to the conclusion that many people are most pissed with fact that jedis are regular starter class and not as powerful as before then the actual changes ingame.And their "hard work" down the drain.
I not met a single guy complain openly ingame about losing his profession as a CH altogether as there is not even a hybrid equivalent to it now (who to me are the ones that should be spamming).Yet in a few days i have SEEN the "hissing" and even got some hilarous insults for just standing in bestine weilding a LS as a respec.
This "third string" gaming magazine is selling more copies than 95 % of the english magazines and this "small market" of PC games in german speaking countries (some 80 million people) is outgrowing the US market in many areas (which is more focused on console games). Try again.
Have fun
Erillion
WoW got 90 or 92 % ... which is about the highest the magazine gives to any game. There are no 100 % ratings and I cannot remember ever having seen a 95 %.
WoW got a special platin star rating for accessability and a gold star for atmosphere.
Overall the magazine is pretty accurate in its assessment of games IMHO.
Have fun
Erillion