Eve is made for a specific audience. you may respectfully disagree woth someone, but seriously, DONT RAT ON THE GAME. all it does is make you look like a fool. try rewording some stuff, those who rat (you know who you are), and more people will listen i play eve, love the game, think it deserves every reward it got. and most of the posts ive seen that disagree are totally disrespectful, veiling accusations and name calling. i havent been the epitome of respect myself, but at least i dont peersonnally attack someone or make accusations that have no ground. these posts of which i speak dont make me think at all about whether you are right or not. they make me want to punch the person's face in.
This goes for people who LIKE eve as well. keyword here is RESPECT. make people think, dont incense them with mindless accusations. it makes me cry
and again, im not pointing fingers at EVERYONE in this thread. many of you have very good posts one way or the other
Originally posted by hooby very amusing... it's the same old story over and over again... it's the oldest quarrel ever known.... and i really don't get it... so there was a vote... whats the problem with that? nobody's got to believe in the outcome, nobody's got to change his game because of the outcome, noone is forced to do anything, nothing changes... and still some people behave like some world is coming to an end... do you all believe that there is some sort of "higher truth" about which is the "very best game" out there, and that this truth is some sort of "absolute objective, unchangable fact" ?? has it ever occured to even a single one of you, that there is no "best" game in spe, like there's also no "best" class, no "best" ship, no "best" way to skill and no "best" whatever... it is a MATTER OF TASTE...and different people got different tastes... different people like different games... thats GOOD! where would we end up, if everyone around the whole world would just play one and the same game like everyone else? the result of the vote says that OUT OF 30.000 PEOPLE THAT DID VOTE ON THIS SITE, XX% VOTED FOR GAME YY.it surely does NOT say, that this means that there's some higher truth hidden in that percent numbers... is it possible that some people are taking all of that just a little bit to serious? why is it so F*****IN important, that the one game YOU like, is the BEST game? (not to mention that there's no sort of "higher truth best stuff thingy whatsoever")how comes it that everybody feels personally insultet, if someone else does not like the game she/he likes quite a lot? do you really need ALL other people in the world to tell you that you are right, in order that you are able to believe it yourself? or what is all that fuss about? why does everybody feel the unstoppable urge to prove that his choice of game is the only good one? there are different tastes, there are different people, there are different games and there are different choices. this doesn't make one taste or one choice better than any other... especially the fact that many, many other people are of the same opinion doesn't prove anything... because something is MAINSTREAM it doesn't neccessarily need to be good... there is no "absolutely" best game for everyone. depending on play-style, personal preferences, personality traits, experience in gaming and many many other things, theres ONE perfect game for every single one of all of you. there will NEVER EVER be ONE game, that's perfect for EVERYBODY. NEVER, NEVER, EVER... so what the hell are all of you arguing about? do you really thing there's one single person reading this thread, who will change his presumptions because of your whine or flame? all of that does lead to absolutely nothing... it's just the same old story...it's nothing more than a new variation on "my c0ck is bigger than yours" or is there anything else you desperately need to prove here? i myself played wow for nearly a year now. got one lvl 60 char, one around lvl 40 somewhere, and one lvl 30, and several others below 20. i played it enough to know, this game doesn't really fit me. i spent a lot of time and money, and i sure got my fun in exchange. but i found out about more and more things i did not like. instances for instance. i don't like em. it's just my very personal opinion. noone needs to share it. and even if i was the only one on the whole world who didn't like em... i wouldn't feel the need to prove everybody else wrong... i don't know what other people like, and i don't mind. if you like instances, if you love WoW, thats good for you! no jealousy, no hatred, no need to quarrel. or maybe a bit of jealousy... you've found your game. i still have to search on! i know what i like, and it's not instances. and it's only my very personal and very subjective opinion. no need everyone gets upset about it.im going to try out EVE now. not because of the vote results. and surely not because of anything anyone ever postet in this thread... i can't tell you if EVE is "better" than WoW... ask me again one year from now. then i will be able to tell you which one is better IN MY OPINION. i don't own any sort of higher truth, so no matter to whatever conclusion i will come... this conclusion is only for me alone, and i don't think that the game that's best for me, HAS to be best for someone else too... and if some tells me, that other game is best for him, why should i try to prove him wrong? who am i to know better what HE likes best, than he does himself? but what am i doing here... i surely wont be able to stop your fight... but doesn't matter. just go on embarassing yourselves... have a nice day
thats the exact point i wanted to make. oddly enough i think im older than WoW players and im able to see this
just because YOU like it doesnt mean its the best... I'll admit i dont like WoW. I like eve. but i dont go and say "WoW ish t3h sux0r, 3v3 is t3h rox40r!", everyone has their own damn opinion. now if these 17-22 year olds cant grasp a concept a 14 year old can something is not right.
I play wow and I play Eve. Both are strong games and excel at their strong points, being roughly PvE for WoW and PvP for Eve.
The awards were well deserved as the games have different audience focus - Eve being a narrow audience and Wow being mainstream. The user base for each game clearly states that both have succeeded at their mission.
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Eve is made for a specific audience. you may respectfully disagree woth someone, but seriously, DONT RAT ON THE GAME. all it does is make you look like a fool. try rewording some stuff, those who rat (you know who you are), and more people will listen i play eve, love the game, think it deserves every reward it got. and most of the posts ive seen that disagree are totally disrespectful, veiling accusations and name calling. i havent been the epitome of respect myself, but at least i dont peersonnally attack someone or make accusations that have no ground. these posts of which i speak dont make me think at all about whether you are right or not. they make me want to punch the person's face in.
This goes for people who LIKE eve as well. keyword here is RESPECT. make people think, dont incense them with mindless accusations. it makes me cry
and again, im not pointing fingers at EVERYONE in this thread. many of you have very good posts one way or the other
Originally posted by hooby
very amusing... it's the same old story over and over again... it's the oldest quarrel ever known....
and i really don't get it...
so there was a vote... whats the problem with that? nobody's got to believe in the outcome, nobody's got to change his game because of the outcome, noone is forced to do anything, nothing changes... and still some people behave like some world is coming to an end...
do you all believe that there is some sort of "higher truth" about which is the "very best game" out there, and that this truth is some sort of "absolute objective, unchangable fact" ??
has it ever occured to even a single one of you, that there is no "best" game in spe, like there's also no "best" class, no "best" ship, no "best" way to skill and no "best" whatever... it is a MATTER OF TASTE...and different people got different tastes... different people like different games... thats GOOD! where would we end up, if everyone around the whole world would just play one and the same game like everyone else?
the result of the vote says that OUT OF 30.000 PEOPLE THAT DID VOTE ON THIS SITE, XX% VOTED FOR GAME YY.it surely does NOT say, that this means that there's some higher truth hidden in that percent numbers...
is it possible that some people are taking all of that just a little bit to serious?
why is it so F*****IN important, that the one game YOU like, is the BEST game? (not to mention that there's no sort of "higher truth best stuff thingy whatsoever")how comes it that everybody feels personally insultet, if someone else does not like the game she/he likes quite a lot? do you really need ALL other people in the world to tell you that you are right, in order that you are able to believe it yourself? or what is all that fuss about?
why does everybody feel the unstoppable urge to prove that his choice of game is the only good one?
there are different tastes, there are different people, there are different games and there are different choices. this doesn't make one taste or one choice better than any other... especially the fact that many, many other people are of the same opinion doesn't prove anything... because something is MAINSTREAM it doesn't neccessarily need to be good...
there is no "absolutely" best game for everyone. depending on play-style, personal preferences, personality traits, experience in gaming and many many other things, theres ONE perfect game for every single one of all of you. there will NEVER EVER be ONE game, that's perfect for EVERYBODY. NEVER, NEVER, EVER...
so what the hell are all of you arguing about?
do you really thing there's one single person reading this thread, who will change his presumptions because of your whine or flame?
all of that does lead to absolutely nothing...
it's just the same old story...it's nothing more than a new variation on "my c0ck is bigger than yours"
or is there anything else you desperately need to prove here?
i myself played wow for nearly a year now. got one lvl 60 char, one around lvl 40 somewhere, and one lvl 30, and several others below 20. i played it enough to know, this game doesn't really fit me. i spent a lot of time and money, and i sure got my fun in exchange. but i found out about more and more things i did not like. instances for instance. i don't like em. it's just my very personal opinion. noone needs to share it. and even if i was the only one on the whole world who didn't like em... i wouldn't feel the need to prove everybody else wrong... i don't know what other people like, and i don't mind. if you like instances, if you love WoW, thats good for you! no jealousy, no hatred, no need to quarrel. or maybe a bit of jealousy... you've found your game. i still have to search on! i know what i like, and it's not instances. and it's only my very personal and very subjective opinion. no need everyone gets upset about it.im going to try out EVE now. not because of the vote results. and surely not because of anything anyone ever postet in this thread... i can't tell you if EVE is "better" than WoW... ask me again one year from now. then i will be able to tell you which one is better IN MY OPINION. i don't own any sort of higher truth, so no matter to whatever conclusion i will come... this conclusion is only for me alone, and i don't think that the game that's best for me, HAS to be best for someone else too... and if some tells me, that other game is best for him, why should i try to prove him wrong? who am i to know better what HE likes best, than he does himself?
but what am i doing here... i surely wont be able to stop your fight... but doesn't matter.
just go on embarassing yourselves...
have a nice day
thats the exact point i wanted to make. oddly enough i think im older than WoW players and im able to see this
just because YOU like it doesnt mean its the best...
I'll admit i dont like WoW. I like eve. but i dont go and say "WoW ish t3h sux0r, 3v3 is t3h rox40r!", everyone has their own damn opinion. now if these 17-22 year olds cant grasp a concept a 14 year old can something is not right.
I play wow and I play Eve. Both are strong games and excel at their strong points, being roughly PvE for WoW and PvP for Eve.
The awards were well deserved as the games have different audience focus - Eve being a narrow audience and Wow being mainstream. The user base for each game clearly states that both have succeeded at their mission.