I know dude but i think why people are pissed, but i can't speak for everyone is that knowing some how their money will be going to SOE and that there is a chance they will take creative control at some point is what turning people away. If they do that there is every chance they might do a Smedly with Vanguard.
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If SoE take creative control then yep that is a huge problem and I hope that doesn't happen. I just think people are wildly overreacting that they don't want anything to do with VG now that SoE is handling some minor things. Vanguard is still going to be the game that these people were obviously interested in, I don't think that needs to change.
This great news, I can already see all the Drama queens here quitting before it's even made. Fantastic. Makes the community much better.
----They have one of the worst repuatations in the MMO market at the moment, their customer service is worse then poor, they show utter contempt towards their customers and yet your saying not to be worried by this?----
Only because the posters, like you, are gigantic drama queens. Did you know that the same thing has been said for EVERY SINGLE GAME COMPANY on the planet?
Good idea dithcing before even trying though, or you could quit being such a little biatch and just play games that are entertaining no matter who makes them. Although playing boring games because you like the company is another fantastic idea.
COCA-COLA IS DELICIOUS BUT I DON'T REALLY LIKE THEM, I'M GONNA GO DRINK SOME NASTY RC COLA CUZ THEY KEEP IT REAL.
Originally posted by JMoney95 This great news, I can already see all the Drama queens here quitting before it's even made. Fantastic. Makes the community much better.
----They have one of the worst repuatations in the MMO market at the moment, their customer service is worse then poor, they show utter contempt towards their customers and yet your saying not to be worried by this?---- Only because the posters, like you, are gigantic drama queens. Did you know that the same thing has been said for EVERY SINGLE GAME COMPANY on the planet? Good idea dithcing before even trying though, or you could quit being such a little biatch and just play games that are entertaining no matter who makes them. Although playing boring games because you like the company is another fantastic idea. COCA-COLA IS DELICIOUS BUT I DON'T REALLY LIKE THEM, I'M GONNA GO DRINK SOME NASTY RC COLA CUZ THEY KEEP IT REAL.
^ clearly not an SWG fan ^
My thing is, I only need to have a company screw me over real good once before I stop trusting them. Being a glutton for punishment, I hung around SWG long after that trust was gone.... just to get screwed again.
They won't get another penny from me.... and frankly, partnering up with them tells me all I ever needed to know about Sigil. They will throw their fanbase on the tracks for a few bucks, and then try to convince us that we are better off under the train. Actually, a partnership with SOE may be a perfect fit for them.
as to your coca-cola analogy... It's more like if coca-cola decided to team up with Slobodan Milosevic to create a new soft drink. Your saying that even though he is a vile, reprehensible human being, you would be OK with it as long as he didn't get to actually decide on the drink recipe? Oh... it's OK, Sloby is just in charge of marketing. To each his own I guess...
Originally posted by Salvatoris Originally posted by JMoney95 This great news, I can already see all the Drama queens here quitting before it's even made. Fantastic. Makes the community much better.
----They have one of the worst repuatations in the MMO market at the moment, their customer service is worse then poor, they show utter contempt towards their customers and yet your saying not to be worried by this?---- Only because the posters, like you, are gigantic drama queens. Did you know that the same thing has been said for EVERY SINGLE GAME COMPANY on the planet? Good idea dithcing before even trying though, or you could quit being such a little biatch and just play games that are entertaining no matter who makes them. Although playing boring games because you like the company is another fantastic idea. COCA-COLA IS DELICIOUS BUT I DON'T REALLY LIKE THEM, I'M GONNA GO DRINK SOME NASTY RC COLA CUZ THEY KEEP IT REAL.
^ clearly not an SWG fan ^
My thing is, I only need to have a company screw me over real good once before I stop trusting them. Being a glutton for punishment, I hung around SWG long after that trust was gone.... just to get screwed again.
They won't get another penny from me.... and frankly, partnering up with them tells me all I ever needed to know about Sigil. They will throw their fanbase on the tracks for a few bucks, and then try to convince us that we are better off under the train. Actually, a partnership with SOE may be a perfect fit for them.
as to your coca-cola analogy... It's more like if coca-cola decided to team up with Slobodan Milosevic to create a new soft drink. Your saying that even though he is a vile, reprehensible human being, you would be OK with it as long as he didn't get to actually decide on the drink recipe? Oh... it's OK, Sloby is just in charge of marketing. To each his own I guess...
No I never played SWG, was a pile of shit from the get go and never wanted to play it.
And if Slobodan and Coke made a good drink I'd be drinking them shits no prob, don't give a damn who the hell made it. If the drink was changed to a way I didnt like it, I'd stop and go Pepsi. I wouldnt be a huge drama queen and not even try it just because of who's involved. I want to play the game I find the most fun, if it's published by Satan I'll play it, if he changes it in a way I don't like, I'll stop playing. Not hard really.
You guys should try playing games based on fun factor, not on who made it. Makes gaming way more enjoyable.
Originally posted by JMoney95 You guys should try playing games based on fun factor, not on who made it. Makes gaming way more enjoyable.
I agree and you should try to ignore these mass temper tantrums.
These guys just heard "SOE" and have gone into hysterical ravings because they are doing the usual kind of simplistic thinking and over-emotional reacting that's typical of the intellectually impotent.
Hopefully these drama queens will go away now, free up some beta slots and let some level-headed people take care of business.
Jmoney shut up tool, I've played every MMO SOE has released and thats a damn good 6 years of playing. I doubt you even spent a month with them, I know exactly how they do business so do thousands of other people. So why don't you stop being the bitch and get off smeds nob and smell the fresh air for a while. Fact is I left all games that remotely have SOE associated with them because I don't want to pay money to a company who has very little regard for its customers which is simply a FACT and make crap games. Now since I doubt you have played a SOE run game you wouldn't know that. Now i didn't say i wasn't gonna play vanguard did I? I said I would be watching closely at the situation and make a decision closer to the time of release I may even give it a go but if I feel SOE is having more of a say in how the game should be run then Sigil have said they would then I have every right to say f*** it and leave simply because of their track record for developing really crappy games (EQ2 was a decent attempt but fell far short of the mark).
The use of coca cola is a bit stupid on your part as it has no relevance to online gaming in the least and the situation with how SOE does business. I don't see you agreeing to a EULA every time you drink a can of coke or paying a monthly subscription to Coca Cola; or the statement "Taste may change over time" on the can.
Playing boring games? have you had your head up your own ass for the last few months? There are loads of games coming out with massive amounts of potential so I don't see Vanguard being the only savior to MMOS and guess what those games have nothing to do with SOE and aren't developed by Sigil. So where the f*** did you get boring games from?
I'll give you a tip instead of making yourself look like a huge turd on a mission to flame people think before you post you jackass. Also the only drama queen i see posting here is yourself to be quite honest as all I did was speak about my concerns and not reply to peoples posts insulting them trying to be witty but making myself look like tool in the process.
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I'm not worked up but you appear to be going around flaming people who are cancelling their pre-orders and getting mighty angry about it I wouldn't be suprised if you gave your self a weggy over it. If they want to cancel why is it getting on your "man breasts" for?. I got the coke relevance but I said how is that any way simiar to what i said? but then again it took you 4 hours to think of that so I won't bother testing your brain cell any further.
Kids man seriously....
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Originally posted by Fignar I'm not worked up but you appear to be going around flaming people who are cancelling their pre-orders. If they want to cancel why is it getting on your man breasts for?. I got the coke relevance but I said how is that any way simiar to what i said? but then again it took you 4 hours to think of that so I won't bother testing your brain cell any further.
Kids man seriously....
You (individual) not worked up? Re-read your last post homie. You (individual) worked up.
I'm not going around flaming anybody, you (individual) seem to be doing enough flaming for everyone! If I offended you (individual) so much by calling you (individual) a drama queen I'm so sorry! But think about it, ditching a game you (general) really wanted to come out because of three letters? Not dramatic to you (individual)?
You (individual) seem think I really care if you (general) do or do not cancel your pre-order. I don't, sorry again. I'm just poking harmless fun at people who make decisions like this MONTHS before the game is even released, how someone can go from diehard Vanguard to not even gonna try because of the letters SOE seems a wee bit dramatic eh?
Not really i'm sat at work laughing at the attempts of a person on the net trying to flame me. Also trying to gauge someones state of mind from a forum post and attempting to assess how they are feeling is a bit stupid. For all you know I could be doing cart wheels around my office and smoking weed.
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Again where did I say I was ditching it , if you read what I said it was just showing someone that some people feel such a resentment towards SOE's way of handling games they would rather pay someone else to have "fun". Now is there anything wrong in that? I think not so crack open a can of coke sit down and smile.
p.s. like i said iam waiting to see how things pan out.
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Originally posted by Fignar Not really i'm sat at work laughing at the attempts of a person on the net trying to flame me. Also trying to gauge someones state of mind from a forum post and attempting to assess how they are feeling is a bit stupid. For all you know I could be doing cart wheels around my office and smoking weed.
Trying to flame you? I never flamed you! You can't hide the fact you got worked up, look at that post man, you went off. I'm hurt. Deep inside.
Originally posted by Fignar Again where did I say I was ditching it , if you read what I said it was just showing someone that some people feel such a resentment towards SOE's way of handling games they would rather pay someone else to have "fun". Now is there anything wrong in that? I think not so crack open a can of coke sit down and smile.
I wasnt directing that at you only again dawg, I'll be more specific next time, that by "you" it may mean the general public "you", not you as an individual. Here I will go edit my post to be more specific, so you can tell when I mean you (individual) and you (general)
No worries i only returned the flame because I thought you were refering to me. Like I said people are entitled to do what they feel is right because I never pre-order games simply because you never know whats gonna happen during development. I would much rather wait until its released and check a friend playing it and have a crack to see if its worth trying. All those that are cancelling i wouldn't right off vanguard completely just keeps tabs to see how things pan out because you can always purchase it from a store in the end.
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Originally posted by Fignar No worries i only returned the flame because I thought you were refering to me. Like I said people are entitled to do what they feel is right because I never pre-order games simply because you never know whats gonna happen during development. I would much rather wait until its released and check a friend playing it and have a crack to see if its worth trying. All those that are cancelling i wouldn't right off vanguard completely just keeps tabs to see how things pan out because you can always purchase it from a store in the end.
I never pre-order any game either, I'll play beta / wait for more information then buy it from a store, then it's np. No reason to pre-order unless it's gonna be sold out where they live! And I hope people do do as they feel is right, if someone doesnt want pay SoE don't do it, but if they were so interested in the game before, they shouldnt out right ditch it, it could still be great, could be bad. My experience with Soe is limited purely to EQ1, I'm sure if I played SWG I'd be choked.
Anywho, hope everyone at least still gives it a shot after the shock of the SOE deal wear off, I mean noone wants to just straight-up ditch a game they wanted so bad for so long eh? (Sorry I'm Canadian!)
ps Sorry if I did really offend anyone, was just poking (what felt like harmless to me) fun at people overreacting!
Take it easy yo
EDIT: Should point out that everyone SHOULD cancel pre-orders! Just incase! Buy it from a store if it looks good around release! But don't give up hope! Dry land isn't a myth! I've seen it!
Originally posted by SkarsTZ Fight the powers brotha! If you feel that strongly about it then you should.
I mean if people feel THAT strongly about any sort of connection to SoE well thats for them to decide. I just don't think people should be making a snap decision on faulty knowledge of what the situation is.
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I know dude but i think why people are pissed, but i can't speak for everyone is that knowing some how their money will be going to SOE and that there is a chance they will take creative control at some point is what turning people away. If they do that there is every chance they might do a Smedly with Vanguard.
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If SoE take creative control then yep that is a huge problem and I hope that doesn't happen. I just think people are wildly overreacting that they don't want anything to do with VG now that SoE is handling some minor things. Vanguard is still going to be the game that these people were obviously interested in, I don't think that needs to change.
This great news, I can already see all the Drama queens here quitting before it's even made. Fantastic. Makes the community much better.
----They have one of the worst repuatations in the MMO market at the moment, their customer service is worse then poor, they show utter contempt towards their customers and yet your saying not to be worried by this?----
Only because the posters, like you, are gigantic drama queens. Did you know that the same thing has been said for EVERY SINGLE GAME COMPANY on the planet?
Good idea dithcing before even trying though, or you could quit being such a little biatch and just play games that are entertaining no matter who makes them. Although playing boring games because you like the company is another fantastic idea.
COCA-COLA IS DELICIOUS BUT I DON'T REALLY LIKE THEM, I'M GONNA GO DRINK SOME NASTY RC COLA CUZ THEY KEEP IT REAL.
^ clearly not an SWG fan ^
My thing is, I only need to have a company screw me over real good once before I stop trusting them. Being a glutton for punishment, I hung around SWG long after that trust was gone.... just to get screwed again.
They won't get another penny from me.... and frankly, partnering up with them tells me all I ever needed to know about Sigil. They will throw their fanbase on the tracks for a few bucks, and then try to convince us that we are better off under the train. Actually, a partnership with SOE may be a perfect fit for them.
as to your coca-cola analogy... It's more like if coca-cola decided to team up with Slobodan Milosevic to create a new soft drink. Your saying that even though he is a vile, reprehensible human being, you would be OK with it as long as he didn't get to actually decide on the drink recipe? Oh... it's OK, Sloby is just in charge of marketing. To each his own I guess...
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^ clearly not an SWG fan ^
My thing is, I only need to have a company screw me over real good once before I stop trusting them. Being a glutton for punishment, I hung around SWG long after that trust was gone.... just to get screwed again.
They won't get another penny from me.... and frankly, partnering up with them tells me all I ever needed to know about Sigil. They will throw their fanbase on the tracks for a few bucks, and then try to convince us that we are better off under the train. Actually, a partnership with SOE may be a perfect fit for them.
as to your coca-cola analogy... It's more like if coca-cola decided to team up with Slobodan Milosevic to create a new soft drink. Your saying that even though he is a vile, reprehensible human being, you would be OK with it as long as he didn't get to actually decide on the drink recipe? Oh... it's OK, Sloby is just in charge of marketing. To each his own I guess...
No I never played SWG, was a pile of shit from the get go and never wanted to play it.
And if Slobodan and Coke made a good drink I'd be drinking them shits no prob, don't give a damn who the hell made it. If the drink was changed to a way I didnt like it, I'd stop and go Pepsi. I wouldnt be a huge drama queen and not even try it just because of who's involved. I want to play the game I find the most fun, if it's published by Satan I'll play it, if he changes it in a way I don't like, I'll stop playing. Not hard really.
You guys should try playing games based on fun factor, not on who made it. Makes gaming way more enjoyable.
sometimes... someone says something so stupid that they make your argument for you.
I forgot to add, three pre-orderes canceled.
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Fool me once...
Two pre-orders cancelled.
I agree and you should try to ignore these mass temper tantrums.
These guys just heard "SOE" and have gone into hysterical ravings because they are doing the usual kind of simplistic thinking and over-emotional reacting that's typical of the intellectually impotent.
Hopefully these drama queens will go away now, free up some beta slots and let some level-headed people take care of business.
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Jmoney shut up tool, I've played every MMO SOE has released and thats a damn good 6 years of playing. I doubt you even spent a month with them, I know exactly how they do business so do thousands of other people.
So why don't you stop being the bitch and get off smeds nob and smell the fresh air for a while. Fact is I left all games that remotely have SOE associated with them because I don't want to pay money to a company who has very little regard for its customers which is simply a FACT and make crap games. Now since I doubt you have played a SOE run game you wouldn't know that. Now i didn't say i wasn't gonna play vanguard did I? I said I would be watching closely at the situation and make a decision closer to the time of release I may even give it a go but if I feel SOE is having more of a say in how the game should be run then Sigil have said they would then I have every right to say f*** it and leave simply because of their track record for developing really crappy games (EQ2 was a decent attempt but fell far short of the mark).
The use of coca cola is a bit stupid on your part as it has no relevance to online gaming in the least and the situation with how SOE does business. I don't see you agreeing to a EULA every time you drink a can of coke or paying a monthly subscription to Coca Cola; or the statement "Taste may change over time" on the can.
Playing boring games? have you had your head up your own ass for the last few months? There are loads of games coming out with massive amounts of potential so I don't see Vanguard being the only savior to MMOS and guess what those games have nothing to do with SOE and aren't developed by Sigil. So where the f*** did you get boring games from?
I'll give you a tip instead of making yourself look like a huge turd on a mission to flame people think before you post you jackass. Also the only drama queen i see posting here is yourself to be quite honest as all I did was speak about my concerns and not reply to peoples posts insulting them trying to be witty but making myself look like tool in the process.
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You got to be kidding me. I leave for 3 days and come back to this news!?!? WTF!
And I was looking forward to trying this game out, oh well, I can save my money and time.
And with SOE's involvement .. I see history does repeat itself with Verant and SOE.
I just can't believe it it..
I'm not worked up but you appear to be going around flaming people who are cancelling their pre-orders and getting mighty angry about it I wouldn't be suprised if you gave your self a weggy over it. If they want to cancel why is it getting on your "man breasts" for?. I got the coke relevance but I said how is that any way simiar to what i said? but then again it took you 4 hours to think of that so I won't bother testing your brain cell any further.
Kids man seriously....
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You (individual) not worked up? Re-read your last post homie. You (individual) worked up.
I'm not going around flaming anybody, you (individual) seem to be doing enough flaming for everyone! If I offended you (individual) so much by calling you (individual) a drama queen I'm so sorry! But think about it, ditching a game you (general) really wanted to come out because of three letters? Not dramatic to you (individual)?
You (individual) seem think I really care if you (general) do or do not cancel your pre-order. I don't, sorry again. I'm just poking harmless fun at people who make decisions like this MONTHS before the game is even released, how someone can go from diehard Vanguard to not even gonna try because of the letters SOE seems a wee bit dramatic eh?
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Again where did I say I was ditching it , if you read what I said it was just showing someone that some people feel such a resentment towards SOE's way of handling games they would rather pay someone else to have "fun". Now is there anything wrong in that? I think not so crack open a can of coke sit down and smile.
p.s. like i said iam waiting to see how things pan out.
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Trying to flame you? I never flamed you! You can't hide the fact you got worked up, look at that post man, you went off. I'm hurt. Deep inside.
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No worries i only returned the flame because I thought you were refering to me. Like I said people are entitled to do what they feel is right because I never pre-order games simply because you never know whats gonna happen during development. I would much rather wait until its released and check a friend playing it and have a crack to see if its worth trying. All those that are cancelling i wouldn't right off vanguard completely just keeps tabs to see how things pan out because you can always purchase it from a store in the end.
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I never pre-order any game either, I'll play beta / wait for more information then buy it from a store, then it's np. No reason to pre-order unless it's gonna be sold out where they live! And I hope people do do as they feel is right, if someone doesnt want pay SoE don't do it, but if they were so interested in the game before, they shouldnt out right ditch it, it could still be great, could be bad. My experience with Soe is limited purely to EQ1, I'm sure if I played SWG I'd be choked.
Anywho, hope everyone at least still gives it a shot after the shock of the SOE deal wear off, I mean noone wants to just straight-up ditch a game they wanted so bad for so long eh? (Sorry I'm Canadian!)
ps Sorry if I did really offend anyone, was just poking (what felt like harmless to me) fun at people overreacting!
Take it easy yo
EDIT: Should point out that everyone SHOULD cancel pre-orders! Just incase! Buy it from a store if it looks good around release! But don't give up hope! Dry land isn't a myth! I've seen it!
Aman!