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Eve Cheats really bad
free2play
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I just got an L3 mission that made me blow up a battleship. The only way I could beat it was to hit him with 4 large Notos smartbombs, fly to base, cheat up my cap, go back and do it again. 11 trips later, I blew ut up.
Word to the wise. Stay on L1 missions. The time required to do L3 negates any possibile advantage.
This is a one time event. I am hoping things aren't this psycho all the time but if it ha[[ens again, L3 can be scratched off as forced group content.
This sucks.
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Now I am new to EVE, but I have read complaints like this about other games.
I'm not flaming, but...
I will never understand people complaining about what they term "Forced Group Content"
This is an MMO.
If there were no content for groups, I could just imagine the complaints.
If you want to solo a game I suggest Oblivion or FEAR.
EVE was made with bizy people in mind. Meaning people who have jobs and have a life and they cant afford to spend 30 minutes because sometimes they get to play for 1 - 1.5 hours a day. It is just that case for me, I work and go to school; so I have to split rest of my time between chores, EVE and my GF. That is also the main reason I quit WoW, I dont have 6 hours to commit to doing raids. Sure from time to time I can play for a while on weekends but that doesnt happen very often.
So yeah, this is an MMO, it encourages social interaction but character progression should NOT be bound to level of social interaction. If you dont want to deal with stuidity of other people today, you should not be penalized for that, at least in my opinion.
come on, you are going to get flamed for this. either you are dumb, or you dont know how to fly your BS. level 3 missions can be done easily with a BC, and most of them can be done with a good cruiser like thorax or rupture. if you lost your BS on a level 3 mission you just suck, not the game.
anyway, i think you are just trolling.
No, none of the above. I was hitting for huge damage. It was just rep'ing it back. I have 2 million sp, I was in a geddon with 4 large lasers. There were points where I was hammering it for 900 dmg in interval.
There is something wrong with the AI. Another guy was stuck in a storyline mission. I went to help him out, the ships were just insane. Frigates, I couldn't even catch them at 800 kms, they were in perma MWD and impossible to hit. This guy had only been playing for 2 months. There was no way for him to get a mission that hard, that fast. I don't know what's up
Doesn't matter now. While trying to help that guy oit, I caught him in a smartbomb and concord blew me up.
You need mech, hull upgrades, repair systems, armour hardeners, armour (extenders), large turret to 3-4, tracking, sniping, etc on the gunnery skills, navigation, engineering for cap and cap recharge(since Apoc uses extream amounts of cap) electronic skills so you can WEB! You know slow ships down to 10% max speed, frigates are hitable then, jam, nos etc... Can you even nos...? I feel slighlty dummer for reading this... a BC can kill a BS one on one, hell a BC can gun down any NPC spawn up to 1 mil bounty.
My friend, I have nothing but pity for the person that funded your first BS... you shouldn't be allowed to fly one for a long time....
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You need mech, hull upgrades, repair systems, armour hardeners, armour (extenders), large turret to 3-4, tracking, sniping, etc on the gunnery skills, navigation, engineering for cap and cap recharge(since Apoc uses extream amounts of cap) electronic skills so you can WEB! You know slow ships down to 10% max speed, frigates are hitable then, jam, nos etc... Can you even nos...? I feel slighlty dummer for reading this... a BC can kill a BS one on one, hell a BC can gun down any NPC spawn up to 1 mil bounty.
My friend, I have nothing but pity for the person that funded your first BS... you shouldn't be allowed to fly one for a long time....
Absolutely right.
so, you were on a geddon with 4 lasers? really? come on... it is not EVE that is cheating...
[quote]Originally posted by free2playThere were points where I was hammering it for 900 dmg in interval.
There is something wrong with the AI. Another guy was stuck in a storyline mission. I went to help him out, the ships were just insane. Frigates, I couldn't even catch them at 800 kms, they were in perma MWD and impossible to hit.[/b][/quote]
and then, you complain that you dont hit small frigates going 800 m/s... did you try to use a web? or drones?
[quote]Originally posted by free2playThis guy had only been playing for 2 months. There was no way for him to get a mission that hard, that fast. I don't know what's up[/b][/quote]
yeah, there is a way. if you do some level 1 missions, and then some level 2, and then some level 3, and then you get to level 4. and the game doesnt tell you that you are too dumb to do level 3 or 4 missions. yes, that is a failure of the game.
[quote]Originally posted by free2playDoesn't matter now. While trying to help that guy oit, I caught him in a smartbomb and concord blew me up.
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really, then some people say that EVE doesnt require intelligence...
Connections skill increases standing with agents and lets you access higher level missions much earlier - I was doing lvl 2's at the end of my trial and lvl 3's after a month. After 2.5 months playtime I have access to lvl 4's but not the skills to do them.
I'm using a BC atm with 2mil SPs and can do any lvl 3 mission, although I have the BS skill theres no way I could fly one as effectively as my BC - as mentioned by others, the rest of my skills aren't at a level where theres any benefit in thing the larger ship.
To my knowledge, you should NEVER have to kill a BS in a level 3 mission, and I've heard of a few people complaining about this mission. You just have to read the instructions you're given or the box that pops up when you warp into the encounter.
I'll try to find the info on the mission later when the site is up, hope this helps...
That's the trouble with BSs ... it's relatively easy to train the skill to fly them, so it's very common for pilots to jump into them well before they have the remaining set of complementary skills to actually fly them well. For an Amarrian BS to function well, you'll want large energy turret to a,t least 3, pref 4, your secondary gun skills up (esp the ones that improve tracking and reduce gun cap drain) to at least 3, pref 4, energy management to at least 4 pref 5, energy grid upgrades to 4, energy systems ops to at least 4 pref 5, Hull Upgrades to 4, various armour hardener skills to 3 or 4, drones 5 and heavy drone ops to 3 or 4, just for starters.
You would be doing better in a Prophecy or a Maller than a Geddon at 2m SPs, would be my guess.
I got 6 million skill points. 2 mil in learning, and still don't feel comfortable flying my Dominix battleship.
1. L3 missions don't include battleships - at worst you'll get a battlecruiser
2. to use 4 large smartbombs you'd have to be flying a battleship, they wouldn't fit on anything else. And if you were flying a battleship, it would be a poor choice of weapons
3. This is simply wrong - base docking will reset the shields of the battleship - it would still be there 11 trips or 111 trips later
4. Erm, only if you want to earn almost zero ISKs (cash).
As another post said, L3 missions can easily be done in a battlecruiser (so long as you understand shield and armour hardening), and most can be done with a decent cruiser. The original post is just wrong.
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You need mech, hull upgrades, repair systems, armour hardeners, armour (extenders), large turret to 3-4, tracking, sniping, etc on the gunnery skills, navigation, engineering for cap and cap recharge(since Apoc uses extream amounts of cap) electronic skills so you can WEB! You know slow ships down to 10% max speed, frigates are hitable then, jam, nos etc... Can you even nos...? I feel slighlty dummer for reading this... a BC can kill a BS one on one, hell a BC can gun down any NPC spawn up to 1 mil bounty.
My friend, I have nothing but pity for the person that funded your first BS... you shouldn't be allowed to fly one for a long time....
OK, you pointed out that a BS should be exclusive to people who have dumped 2 years into the game. Now back to the issue at hand.
I was hitting for 900 and it was repping it. No, this thread didn't get hijacked by the cheerleaders.
Please accept my apology.
Eve is the bestest.
Eve is perfect.
Eve is for all the cool people.
fuck off and die now?
You need mech, hull upgrades, repair systems, armour hardeners, armour (extenders), large turret to 3-4, tracking, sniping, etc on the gunnery skills, navigation, engineering for cap and cap recharge(since Apoc uses extream amounts of cap) electronic skills so you can WEB! You know slow ships down to 10% max speed, frigates are hitable then, jam, nos etc... Can you even nos...? I feel slighlty dummer for reading this... a BC can kill a BS one on one, hell a BC can gun down any NPC spawn up to 1 mil bounty.
My friend, I have nothing but pity for the person that funded your first BS... you shouldn't be allowed to fly one for a long time....
OK, you pointed out that a BS should be exclusive to people who have dumped 2 years into the game. Now back to the issue at hand.
I was hitting for 900 and it was repping it. No, this thread didn't get hijacked by the cheerleaders.
Please accept my apology.
Eve is the bestest.
Eve is perfect.
Eve is for all the cool people.
fuck off and die now?
Not 2 years but about 4-6months. Sorry this is how EVE works
You need mech, hull upgrades, repair systems, armour hardeners, armour (extenders), large turret to 3-4, tracking, sniping, etc on the gunnery skills, navigation, engineering for cap and cap recharge(since Apoc uses extream amounts of cap) electronic skills so you can WEB! You know slow ships down to 10% max speed, frigates are hitable then, jam, nos etc... Can you even nos...? I feel slighlty dummer for reading this... a BC can kill a BS one on one, hell a BC can gun down any NPC spawn up to 1 mil bounty.
My friend, I have nothing but pity for the person that funded your first BS... you shouldn't be allowed to fly one for a long time....
OK, you pointed out that a BS should be exclusive to people who have dumped 2 years into the game. Now back to the issue at hand.
I was hitting for 900 and it was repping it. No, this thread didn't get hijacked by the cheerleaders.
Please accept my apology.
Eve is the bestest.
Eve is perfect.
Eve is for all the cool people.
fuck off and die now?
First of all wtf with all the bestest, perfect and cool people comments. Everyone just told you that you should not be flying a BS with 2 mil SP. Which I totally agree with, and no it doesnt take 2 years but you will have to wait for 1 - 2 more months.
As for your issue, I have serious doubts about you being able to hit other things for 900 damage with 2m SP. Another thing is like most people mentioned is you dont encounter BS in lvl 3 missions. If that really happened you should have reread the mission or petition in game that you are stuck on mission (if something really seemed to be extreemly out of wack), they are ususally pritty good about getting back to people who are on timer.
Ummm ok I was 4 months old after I was able to finally handle post-RMR level 3 missions not two years. Currently I am 8 months old and can handle twin 1.25 mil 0.0 battleships in my Raven that is still way under two years.
Let me guess you are going to need 3 years of skill training to be uber at PVP?
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You need mech, hull upgrades, repair systems, armour hardeners, armour (extenders), large turret to 3-4, tracking, sniping, etc on the gunnery skills, navigation, engineering for cap and cap recharge(since Apoc uses extream amounts of cap) electronic skills so you can WEB! You know slow ships down to 10% max speed, frigates are hitable then, jam, nos etc... Can you even nos...? I feel slighlty dummer for reading this... a BC can kill a BS one on one, hell a BC can gun down any NPC spawn up to 1 mil bounty.
My friend, I have nothing but pity for the person that funded your first BS... you shouldn't be allowed to fly one for a long time....
OK, you pointed out that a BS should be exclusive to people who have dumped 2 years into the game. Now back to the issue at hand.
I was hitting for 900 and it was repping it. No, this thread didn't get hijacked by the cheerleaders.
Please accept my apology.
Eve is the bestest.
Eve is perfect.
Eve is for all the cool people.
fuck off and die now?
Free2play, did you even read my post? Hell I only started flying a raven a few weeks ago, (maybe I never trained it) only 4.6 mil SP and so forth, I can barely out tank dual 1 mil BS bounties.. The point I was stating was the immediate idiocy I saw within the OP's post, hell do you read after a point? He stated he had 2 mil sp, thats 2-3 months? doing lvl 3's in a BS (stupid in itself, you'll find this out later if you know enough about the game, and yes to have any ability in game you HAVE to research; sorry may sound 'elitest' but study helps a fhkn lot my friend.) man I don't want to go futher into a stupid argument, so I shall have this: ^below^ to show my thoughts on you and your assumptions.
*Points to the troll making fun of fanboy's* "Does he realise how stupid he makes himself look?"
*fellow 'elitest' and 'eve fanboy' reply's* "Dunno but he looks like he gets off posting things like this.."
*both figures shudder*
thankyou for reading...
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I didn't read everything since the thing has been turned to a flamefest, but to the OP, read this.
I've been doing lvl 3 missions for ages, before any expansion and after every expansion, and i've been taking down frigates like flies with my 1400mms Arty, long range, in level 3 missions, from normal agents of course.
I've never got blown in a lvl 3 mission, not even in the old extravaganzas nor silent the information, i can also do them in a normal cruiser if i want to.
just a little word for you, don't come here to spout your noobness to us please, know how to manage your ship first.
thank you and good luck.
The fact that you cant handle something that everyone else seems to be able to easily handle suggusts that the problem is not with the game.
Eve is not a "shmack-everything-that-moves-with-my-cool-battleship" game. Some planning is always required.
I will like to point out a few problems here, 1 you are flying a BS with 2 mil SP. Now You don't have to be a genius to understand why this is a bad move (not saying you shouldn't do what you want, and that SP are anything....) but when using a BS you have to have the basic BACK UP skills for it. hell with 2 mil SP you should have 1-1.3 mil of it in learning... and from that... 700-1 mil SP to have on, ships, weapons, tanking, EW.... maybe even Navigation.... Yes it is kool to have an apoc or geddon when you have 2 mil SP... but I see no point in having one if you cant use it even half as well as a guy2 weeks older.
You need mech, hull upgrades, repair systems, armour hardeners, armour (extenders), large turret to 3-4, tracking, sniping, etc on the gunnery skills, navigation, engineering for cap and cap recharge(since Apoc uses extream amounts of cap) electronic skills so you can WEB! You know slow ships down to 10% max speed, frigates are hitable then, jam, nos etc... Can you even nos...? I feel slighlty dummer for reading this... a BC can kill a BS one on one, hell a BC can gun down any NPC spawn up to 1 mil bounty.
My friend, I have nothing but pity for the person that funded your first BS... you shouldn't be allowed to fly one for a long time....
/signed
I owned a Megathron for about 3 months before I could [actually] fly it. Now, I could get in it and float around in it, yes, but I couldn't actually use it to its full potential nor would I have put up a good fight had anybody tried to blow me up.
Equip more than 4 large guns on your BS, first! With 4 guns, you're doing the damage equivalent (estimated, mathimatics may argue) of a cruiser. Also, different ships are tanked to different resistances. Make sure you take that into concideration. Also, smartbombs are... in a word... useless. They work fine for level 1 drone missions, but other than that... useless.
Oh, and as far as SP goes, I had roughly 4 million in Gunnery alone before I even checked my pod into a BS. Not to mention all of the Electronics skills and Engineering skills... as well as Mechanic skills I had (roughly 5 million together... at the time... much more now).
I would recommend a BattleCruiser until you can actually fly a battleship.
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