Hey you fly I'll buy on the popcorn. Seems they are starting again with trying to get more people suckered into this game.
They give themselves away all the time. In their own actions, they claim injury yet deny that injury in public, wth do they think they can do? Do they honestly believe the French courts are as gullible as the few still trying to promote this game?
The more they try to scream "unfair" the more absolute they make their own "Idiot Rating"
Hey you fly I'll buy on the popcorn. Seems they are starting again with trying to get more people suckered into this game. They give themselves away all the time. In their own actions, they claim injury yet deny that injury in public, wth do they think they can do? Do they honestly believe the French courts are as gullible as the few still trying to promote this game? The more they try to scream "unfair" the more absolute they make their own "Idiot Rating"
That's what I love about these idiots, both Farlan and apparently their representation also. They seem to think the internet is their personal journal and that things they say publically, which contradict what they claim at the same time in court, can't possibly be admitted into evidence aginst them and their claims.
Used to be Farlan/NPcube were the ones I found funny as hell. now, I laugh at any lawyer willing to take their case.
lol You got it Zorv. It seems they say, "what we said before doesnt exist, never existed, and if you find it, then you are the idiot, not us cuz today, right here right now, this is what we are saying is the truth and what we said before didnt happen but if it did happen it was the result of the fans pressuring us and the naysayers being unfair about how bad our game is and the people who walked out on us and the company that was responsible for the payment processing only, all those didnt exist, never did so you listen to us today,right here right now and know that this is the truth that in a court of law can be used but since the other stuff doesnt exist, the courts wont and dont know about it cuz even though its there it never existed and if it did it wasnt our fault so listen to us today, right here right now because the other truth doesnt or ever did exist and if it did it was the result of other people and the fans not us so you listen...........
That's what I love about these idiots, both Farlan and apparently their representation also. They seem to think the internet is their personal journal and that things they say publically, which contradict what they claim at the same time in court, can't possibly be admitted into evidence aginst them and their claims.
Used to be Farlan/NPcube were the ones I found funny as hell. now, I laugh at any lawyer willing to take their case.
November 9, 2007- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand]
NPCube files its submissions in reply to VWORLD's on last October 5th. In its submissions, VWORLD pointed out that it could not be held in any way responsible for NPCube's various failures, failures which seemed to be quite simply directly imputable to NPCube's own doings, notably its own deceitful communication. NPCube's reply consists in simply repeating its accusations against VWORLD and holding that VWORLD's submissions were "off the point", and therefore chosing not to reply further. The next hearing is scheduled for January 17th, 2008.
@JohnyCache: click on the links of my signature: this will answer your PM question.
Originally posted by _Pix_ Originally posted by Zorvan That's what I love about these idiots, both Farlan and apparently their representation also. They seem to think the internet is their personal journal and that things they say publically, which contradict what they claim at the same time in court, can't possibly be admitted into evidence aginst them and their claims.
Used to be Farlan/NPcube were the ones I found funny as hell. now, I laugh at any lawyer willing to take their case.
November 9, 2007- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand] NPCube files its submissions in reply to VWORLD's on last October 5th. In its submissions, VWORLD pointed out that it could not be held in any way responsible for NPCube's various failures, failures which seemed to be quite simply directly imputable to NPCube's own doings, notably its own deceitful communication. NPCube's reply consists in simply repeating its accusations against VWORLD and holding that VWORLD's submissions were "off the point", and therefore chosing not to reply further. The next hearing is scheduled for January 17th, 2008. @JohnyCache: click on the links of my signature: this will answer your PM question.
All I can say is that lawyers in Europe must be some of the wealthiest individuals on the entire planet, if it takes this long simply to submit rebuttals and get an adjudication on specific points.
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That's what I love about these idiots, both Farlan and apparently their representation also. They seem to think the internet is their personal journal and that things they say publically, which contradict what they claim at the same time in court, can't possibly be admitted into evidence aginst them and their claims.
Used to be Farlan/NPcube were the ones I found funny as hell. now, I laugh at any lawyer willing to take their case.
November 9, 2007- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand]
NPCube files its submissions in reply to VWORLD's on last October 5th. In its submissions, VWORLD pointed out that it could not be held in any way responsible for NPCube's various failures, failures which seemed to be quite simply directly imputable to NPCube's own doings, notably its own deceitful communication. NPCube's reply consists in simply repeating its accusations against VWORLD and holding that VWORLD's submissions were "off the point", and therefore chosing not to reply further. The next hearing is scheduled for January 17th, 2008.
@JohnyCache: click on the links of my signature: this will answer your PM question.
okay okay now wait:
you file for valid reasons of various areas including Farlan stealing the use of VWORLD. They in turn file against you saying their absolute failure in this endeavor is all your fault. You in turn answer it aint your fault they are totally inept in all areas and they file back that your answer is irrevelant.
ok ok So Farlan says we took mr pix's tech without any previous legal doc regarding the sale of his copyright or his waiver of rights towards it but the game failed anyway and not because we have admitted that we dont know how to use it even though we are claiming to own it ourselves and that mr pix was hired to do that for us but he left us and even sabotaged it so we couldnt fix it in that he put an "unbreakable code" in it (something the US homeland security would be interested in) but we own it and our company made it we just did it with his help but we dont know how it works but its ours.
Now even though we dont know how it works, cant figure it out and have admitted that we dont know how to even get into the code because we believe mr pix put an unbreakable code in it so we couldnt but we own it and he was only an employee on it and if we ever said something as silly as an unbreakable code done by mr pix then that was due to the pressure of the fans who wanted us to release too early cuz we knew the game wasnt ready cuz we couldnt figure out the code but the pressure they placed on us to release was too tremendous to overcome so we released it to the detriment of farlan and npc because our employees walked out on us years before, even our art guy, but because of that we have had dismal failures in everything from the game itself to the PR of our company but its all because of one man, mr pix , who we claim was only one employee but who also is the creator of this technology and had copyrights from years before he started to work for us and our false paperwork regarding a contract with him doesnt matter cuz it doesnt exist but if it did exist then it was only as a result of the dismal failure of this entire endeavor but the failures are only the result of one man and that man is mr pix even though he has nothing to do with our company other than owning the technology we are trying to use and pass off as ours but its only as a result of the pressure of the fans to release so its not our fault but the fault of the many whom have walked on us and left us to our own incompetent work one of which is the guy who developed a technology that we claim as ours but we have no clue how it all works but thats not our fault and all this is besides the point anyway
cuz the point is not whether or not our failures are caused by our own actions but because of one man, mr pix, walking out on us and raising a stink about us using his years before copyrighted technology without permission nor compensation and us having abysmal failures in every aspect of this endeavor but we are going to raise those issues in conjunction with our claims of everything else good but any answer from mr pix is off the point cuz really we dont want to hear that cuz even though we are claiming its all his fault any answer he gives relating to the placement of fault is irrevelant cuz we are not incompetent and this is our technology even though we have admitted that we havent a clue how to even begin with the coding, we claimed also that he embedded an unbreakable code which the worlds security scientists may just be interested so we couldnt work on it , then we tried to cover it all up with the use of another company implying responsibility of the tech but its not them really its really VWORLD but any remarks mr pix has to say about that is irrevelant and off the point cuz even though we are accusing him his answers are off the point and really this has nothing to do with our failures but we are claiming our failures are his fault so we must not answer and claim off the point cuz really it is cuz we didnt fail and we didnt falsely accuse, it was all the fault of the fans pressuring us and the last two years have been a mess cuz mr pix and a few other select employees walked out on us but not because of our incompetence, inexperience or absolute bs all the way but because mr pix wont allow us to just take his work and use it and profit off it and have him continue to work on it with us so we are making excuses but if those excuses are evident then they arent really excuses just imaginary posts and press releases and interview answers that really didnt happen so really there is no point to mr pix defending himself cuz we really didnt do all that and besides even though we filed against him the answers he gives us are off the point anyway..........
okay I get it! " if you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh***" ......good going Farlan and NPC! You truly do have the "gift".
That's what I love about these idiots, both Farlan and apparently their representation also. They seem to think the internet is their personal journal and that things they say publically, which contradict what they claim at the same time in court, can't possibly be admitted into evidence aginst them and their claims.
Used to be Farlan/NPcube were the ones I found funny as hell. now, I laugh at any lawyer willing to take their case.
November 9, 2007- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand]
NPCube files its submissions in reply to VWORLD's on last October 5th. In its submissions, VWORLD pointed out that it could not be held in any way responsible for NPCube's various failures, failures which seemed to be quite simply directly imputable to NPCube's own doings, notably its own deceitful communication. NPCube's reply consists in simply repeating its accusations against VWORLD and holding that VWORLD's submissions were "off the point", and therefore chosing not to reply further. The next hearing is scheduled for January 17th, 2008.
@JohnyCache: click on the links of my signature: this will answer your PM question.
okay okay now wait:
you file for valid reasons of various areas including Farlan stealing the use of VWORLD. They in turn file against you saying their absolute failure in this endeavor is all your fault. You in turn answer it aint your fault they are totally inept in all areas and they file back that your answer is irrevelant.
ok ok So Farlan says we took mr pix's tech without any previous legal doc regarding the sale of his copyright or his waiver of rights towards it but the game failed anyway and not because we have admitted that we dont know how to use it even though we are claiming to own it ourselves and that mr pix was hired to do that for us but he left us and even sabotaged it so we couldnt fix it in that he put an "unbreakable code" in it (something the US homeland security would be interested in) but we own it and our company made it we just did it with his help but we dont know how it works but its ours.
Now even though we dont know how it works, cant figure it out and have admitted that we dont know how to even get into the code because we believe mr pix put an unbreakable code in it so we couldnt but we own it and he was only an employee on it and if we ever said something as silly as an unbreakable code done by mr pix then that was due to the pressure of the fans who wanted us to release too early cuz we knew the game wasnt ready cuz we couldnt figure out the code but the pressure they placed on us to release was too tremendous to overcome so we released it to the detriment of farlan and npc because our employees walked out on us years before, even our art guy, but because of that we have had dismal failures in everything from the game itself to the PR of our company but its all because of one man, mr pix , who we claim was only one employee but who also is the creator of this technology and had copyrights from years before he started to work for us and our false paperwork regarding a contract with him doesnt matter cuz it doesnt exist but if it did exist then it was only as a result of the dismal failure of this entire endeavor but the failures are only the result of one man and that man is mr pix even though he has nothing to do with our company other than owning the technology we are trying to use and pass off as ours but its only as a result of the pressure of the fans to release so its not our fault but the fault of the many whom have walked on us and left us to our own incompetent work one of which is the guy who developed a technology that we claim as ours but we have no clue how it all works but thats not our fault and all this is besides the point anyway
cuz the point is not whether or not our failures are caused by our own actions but because of one man, mr pix, walking out on us and raising a stink about us using his years before copyrighted technology without permission nor compensation and us having abysmal failures in every aspect of this endeavor but we are going to raise those issues in conjunction with our claims of everything else good but any answer from mr pix is off the point cuz really we dont want to hear that cuz even though we are claiming its all his fault any answer he gives relating to the placement of fault is irrevelant cuz we are not incompetent and this is our technology even though we have admitted that we havent a clue how to even begin with the coding, we claimed also that he embedded an unbreakable code which the worlds security scientists may just be interested so we couldnt work on it , then we tried to cover it all up with the use of another company implying responsibility of the tech but its not them really its really VWORLD but any remarks mr pix has to say about that is irrevelant and off the point cuz even though we are accusing him his answers are off the point and really this has nothing to do with our failures but we are claiming our failures are his fault so we must not answer and claim off the point cuz really it is cuz we didnt fail and we didnt falsely accuse, it was all the fault of the fans pressuring us and the last two years have been a mess cuz mr pix and a few other select employees walked out on us but not because of our incompetence, inexperience or absolute bs all the way but because mr pix wont allow us to just take his work and use it and profit off it and have him continue to work on it with us so we are making excuses but if those excuses are evident then they arent really excuses just imaginary posts and press releases and interview answers that really didnt happen so really there is no point to mr pix defending himself cuz we really didnt do all that and besides even though we filed against him the answers he gives us are off the point anyway..........
okay I get it! " if you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh***" ......good going Farlan and NPC! You truly do have the "gift".
Heheh,
Cho, I just gotta say:
I have never seen anyone be able to type a response in the classic "wall of text" format, as you have done above, that 1) I've actually been compelled to read and 2) made friggen sense!
i don't know whether I should love ya, or run away scared!
Anywho, looks like you summed it up nicely, there. The sad thing is farlan actually thinks they're staying ahead of the game ( no pun intended ) by pulling this farcical crap. Wish I had access to their medicine cabinets.............................
Originally posted by _Pix_ Well... today 's update: (source) November 9, 2007- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand]
NPCube files its submissions in reply to VWORLD's on last October 5th. In its submissions, VWORLD pointed out that it could not be held in any way responsible for NPCube's various failures, failures which seemed to be quite simply directly imputable to NPCube's own doings, notably its own deceitful communication. NPCube's reply consists in simply repeating its accusations against VWORLD and holding that VWORLD's submissions were "off the point", and therefore chosing not to reply further. The next hearing is scheduled for January 17th, 2008.
okay okay now wait:
you file for valid reasons of various areas including Farlan stealing the use of VWORLD. They in turn file against you saying their absolute failure in this endeavor is all your fault. You in turn answer it aint your fault they are totally inept in all areas and they file back that your answer is irrevelant.
ok ok So Farlan says we took mr pix's tech without any previous legal doc regarding the sale of his copyright or his waiver of rights towards it but the game failed anyway and not because we have admitted that we dont know how to use it even though we are claiming to own it ourselves and that mr pix was hired to do that for us but he left us and even sabotaged it so we couldnt fix it in that he put an "unbreakable code" in it (something the US homeland security would be interested in) but we own it and our company made it we just did it with his help but we dont know how it works but its ours.
Now even though we dont know how it works, cant figure it out and have admitted that we dont know how to even get into the code because we believe mr pix put an unbreakable code in it so we couldnt but we own it and he was only an employee on it and if we ever said something as silly as an unbreakable code done by mr pix then that was due to the pressure of the fans who wanted us to release too early cuz we knew the game wasnt ready cuz we couldnt figure out the code but the pressure they placed on us to release was too tremendous to overcome so we released it to the detriment of farlan and npc because our employees walked out on us years before, even our art guy, but because of that we have had dismal failures in everything from the game itself to the PR of our company but its all because of one man, mr pix , who we claim was only one employee but who also is the creator of this technology and had copyrights from years before he started to work for us and our false paperwork regarding a contract with him doesnt matter cuz it doesnt exist but if it did exist then it was only as a result of the dismal failure of this entire endeavor but the failures are only the result of one man and that man is mr pix even though he has nothing to do with our company other than owning the technology we are trying to use and pass off as ours but its only as a result of the pressure of the fans to release so its not our fault but the fault of the many whom have walked on us and left us to our own incompetent work one of which is the guy who developed a technology that we claim as ours but we have no clue how it all works but thats not our fault and all this is besides the point anyway
cuz the point is not whether or not our failures are caused by our own actions but because of one man, mr pix, walking out on us and raising a stink about us using his years before copyrighted technology without permission nor compensation and us having abysmal failures in every aspect of this endeavor but we are going to raise those issues in conjunction with our claims of everything else good but any answer from mr pix is off the point cuz really we dont want to hear that cuz even though we are claiming its all his fault any answer he gives relating to the placement of fault is irrevelant cuz we are not incompetent and this is our technology even though we have admitted that we havent a clue how to even begin with the coding, we claimed also that he embedded an unbreakable code which the worlds security scientists may just be interested so we couldnt work on it , then we tried to cover it all up with the use of another company implying responsibility of the tech but its not them really its really VWORLD but any remarks mr pix has to say about that is irrevelant and off the point cuz even though we are accusing him his answers are off the point and really this has nothing to do with our failures but we are claiming our failures are his fault so we must not answer and claim off the point cuz really it is cuz we didnt fail and we didnt falsely accuse, it was all the fault of the fans pressuring us and the last two years have been a mess cuz mr pix and a few other select employees walked out on us but not because of our incompetence, inexperience or absolute bs all the way but because mr pix wont allow us to just take his work and use it and profit off it and have him continue to work on it with us so we are making excuses but if those excuses are evident then they arent really excuses just imaginary posts and press releases and interview answers that really didnt happen so really there is no point to mr pix defending himself cuz we really didnt do all that and besides even though we filed against him the answers he gives us are off the point anyway..........
okay I get it! " if you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh***" ......good going Farlan and NPC! You truly do have the "gift".
Did person A get paid? Did Person A Sign an agreement? Did Person A fail to fulfill the agreement ? Did person A Quit , or was he fired ? Did person A fail to inform the contractor that the technology was not suitable for the gaming industry ? I hope hese questions are answered in the court of law so we can all get to the bottom of this. Pix please do not respond to my posts ,. they can and will be used against you in the court of law. My post is just the perspective I wish to see answered under oath for the sake of everyone who is effected in some way shape or form by this game title. I hate seeing great ideas from independent developers crushed by bad press and people who just can't let it go. This is the perspective and angle I chose to look at this subject, I am not for or against anyone, I just want to see the truth.
Umm Sole, I see you are at it again. Unless you are privy to the contract under employment, were there at the signing and agreement of and have factual knowledge and can support with links such as _Pix_ does, dont you think that your post is a little out of line and well, full of ASSumptions?
You present questions as facts then have the gall to tell the person whom you are indirectly accusing of falsely claiming not to respond under a threat of "used against you in the court of law"??? Unless you are in fact in the court room at the time of the final hammer down, dont you think your words are a bit....well...sloppy and well....a bit ignorant (ie unlearned)...in this case and in your attempted but failed veiling of untruths against _Pix_?
As your perspective, in wanting to see truth, yet you do distinctly do not wish to have the person you are alleging false statements to, to respond?
Gee, you taking your cue from Farlan or wait, lemme guess, you're on the legal team , right!?!?! BOOYAH!!
Cho, although what you say is indeed the truth as much as the public can know at this time and although what you say does make sense, there are those that will come around here, make their stupid little posts just to get one of us to respond and have them complain at the slightest ASSumption. Where this game is concerned, its watch your back even in the completely innocent and free forum posting.
There is a pattern set now that cant be missed. Posting that the sky is blue when one of the shills/trolls says its green could be grounds for them to complain.
I happen to support mr _pix_ in this entire affair as well as support those long term and older but screwed over ex-players. I especially respect mr_ pix_ and your posts. You both have made this an interesting and informative thread for the thousands that were screwed over.
Hats off to you Mr. _Pix_ and hats off to you too Cholayna, Killion, Zorvan and all the rest who continue to support the mmorpg community against companies like Farcelan and NPCease.
Did person A get paid? Did Person A Sign an agreement? Did Person A fail to fulfill the agreement ? Did person A Quit , or was he fired ? Did person A fail to inform the contractor that the technology was not suitable for the gaming industry ? I hope hese questions are answered in the court of law so we can all get to the bottom of this. Pix please do not respond to my posts ,. they can and will be used against you in the court of law. My post is just the perspective I wish to see answered under oath for the sake of everyone who is effected in some way shape or form by this game title. I hate seeing great ideas from independent developers crushed by bad press and people who just can't let it go. This is the perspective and angle I chose to look at this subject, I am not for or against anyone, I just want to see the truth.
Did the poster have access to the contract?
Did the poster have presence in the negotiation and signing of the contract?
Did the poster fail to read the supporting documentation that is/was available to the public?
Did the poster have actual knowledge of the internal affairs of the company regarding the technologys abilities at the time?
Sole, please do not respond to this post....your answers would be construed as heresay and without substantion. My post is just the perspective I wish to see answered by all those who claim to have inside information as casual players of DNL insofar as company internal negotiations and private contracts go.
I really hate seeing independent developers who orchestrate their own destruction and downfall by their own actions and throw so much false info and continual guerilla tactics in placing blame at the lap of a single person.
This is the perspective and angle I chose to look at this subject , I am not for or against anyone or anything except the truth. Difference is, I am able and willing to do my own homework first and have made the only conclusion as to the facts to the public as it stands now. I do not claim any inside information on either part of this nor do I wish to imply that perception nor will I imply that perception.
Originally posted by solareus Pix please do not respond to my posts ,. they can and will be used against you in the court of law. My post is just the perspective I wish to see answered under oath for the sake of everyone who is effected in some way shape or form by this game title. I hate seeing great ideas from independent developers crushed by bad press and people who just can't let it go.
Well, solareus, nothing just can be used against me, since, you see, quite simply, nobody is sueing me before a Court of Law. It's not because Farlan/NPCube via Alchemic Dream announced in 2005 that they were sueing me that you need to spread further this idea that I am being the one who is sued, because the simple truth you seem to be seeking desperately is that I AM NOT.
As far the new strategy you're trying to put forward in posting here (including PMing me about that particular question) that is to say claiming that VWorldTerrain technology is not suited to Gaming applications, I'll be quite straightforward in answering by stressing the 3 following points:
1-this strategy has already been used by NPCube quite a long time ago and is IMVHO a bit outdated now (remember the claim Mafate had been "re-written" because the technology it used was imposing constraints that were not allowing to issue a product correponding to the Ambitions of its developer and publisher)
2- I would recommend you to stick to the "official", "initial" strategy, which was to imply that I was a simple salaried employee (though also co-founder), who was paid to develop a technology at NPCube
3- anyhow your theory here does not explain still why NPCube uses a technology (wether a "suitable" one or not) which does not belong to it. Maybe the explanation is quite simple, if we ponder about the possible reasons which motivated Farlan to overcharge/unduly bill repeatedly its customers and has not delivered yet the product its customers pre-bought (not simply pre-ordered) end 2005.
On a final note, understand I cannot decently respond anonymous PMs when its author is so blatantly (but to no avail) trying to harass and discredit the Person he is writing to (unless of course that author has the decency to indicate his full ID and engages upon having its own writings potentially introduced in a Court of Law.)
we are still writing and building (and shopping), so selection may not take place for another year (sigh...this stuff takes WAY too long and is way to expensive). by then, who knows what will be available. Maybe another generation will be born.
On another note:
Solareus:
You say you are "seeking truth" but how can you find such truth with "primed" questions suck as the ones detailed below. If you really want the whole story (as presented by BOTH parties), all the information is on the internet...just go find it. _Pix_ side of the situation is thouroughly detailed, but you may have to dig a bit to find the NP side of the argument....
Knowledge is not given, it is sought....wisdom is not bestowed, it is learned...
And i damned near pissed myself when i read:
If I worked at a lab where I discovered the cure for cancer, then out of haste I quit my lab job, I have no claim to the cure except for the fact I founded it. All the rights belong to the company I created that cure in.
I fear and question the values of anyone that makes a connection between Software Technology and curing cancer....
It is amazes me how you avoid a simple question, my questions are to get to the truth of a subject that interests me. I been a follower of games industry for a while and like stories like that lay on a courts decision. I never asked you to answer my PM, but yet you want everyone to know I sent you one. Here is the PM I sent Titled "Curious" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, " why have you never stepped up yourself and say "my technology was not appropriate for the games industry".
Why didn't you ever come clean and just admit your technology was not good enough for a game ?" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Yes it is quite interesting indeed that you sent him a PM -- seems to me you got your questions asked on the board, no need to further send him a PM -- and an anonymous one at that. I would like to pose a question back to you: What experience, knowledge and education do you possess to make an assessment such as to the appropriateness of a certain technology in a game, when its quite obvious that you cant distinquish between an engine, a server and an application nor understand the complex workings as such? and in relation to the above: In what manner do you have the right to demand a developer of VWORLD to "come clean" and admit something that 1) is false in the first place 2) in twisted words attempt to have the developer admit something about now his technology and only his technology was not good enough for a game? I can see where _Pix_ gets the impression of harassment and provoking flames. What I was getting at with these 2 questions if the that you , yourself undertand that that the technology is not mean't for the game industry and that Farlan and NpCube are using it inappropiately ,,,,,,, huh? from what I can interpret in your statement - again, i ask you what formal training or experience do you have that makes it necessary for you to attempt to now discredit _Pix_'s development in the gaming industry? You just admitted ion this forum in the last post you are "Co-founder" of NPCube and I quote "(though also co-founder), who was paid to develop a technology at NPCube" umm Sole? He used it in context with stating why didnt you try to stick to your old tactics of claiming him as just a paid employee paid only to develop his technology at NPC -- which is totally and flatly false in the first place as this technology had already begun and been copyrighted YEARS before the NPC fiasco. Please do not twist his words or better yet, read the entire sentence when using it as a reference back and especially in a statement implying falsehood. If you were employed there, what was you function ? Since it is obvious you did not create the game engine and weather system , what was your job title there . NPcube stole your other technology, but wht was your job at NPcube before they stole the technology ? Did they steal the Technology while you worked there or after you quit ? IT just doesn't make a lot sense to me . If I worked at a lab where I discovered the cure for cancer, then out of haste I quit my lab job, I have no claim to the cure except for the fact I founded it. All the rights belong to the company I created that cure in. Guess thats why we have Business Majors and PHD's and copyright attorneys huh? Again Pix , if trying to discover the truth of a situation is a "strategy" then I am guiilty. Until Farlan , NPcube want to come one the forums to let me grill them as well, then I would,, as I've grilled them already on there MAin Forum , much to say, they didn't respond, which in turn is the smartest thing to do in there situation. hmm not always Sole. Seems to me letting the world know just what of people these are, what they are dealing with and the types of companies who come into the industry , wreak havoc and turn it around to the fans as well as everybody but themselves is truly offering a service to the millions of online gamers. This shouldnt be a closed-door to the gaming industry nor the development teams out there. ALLLL are interested in this. I will agree however with you on the fact that Farlan/NPC keeping their mouths shut is the best thing for THEM to do. They arent smart enough to do otherwise (which has been already seen -- every time they open their mouth, they step in it. Laid it on so thick , they cant help but step in it honestly. Poor guys. For me , I could careless about Farlan, NpCube or you Pix, I just want to understand the truth , the real truth , not some guys website, and I eagerly await to see the courts decision. Good idea. The continual "grilling" of the same points over and over in a variety of methods is indeed getting old. Save the implications of guilt, discredit and incompetence against _Pix_ for after its all said and done. Until then, even you may step into what Farlan/NPC has laid down. It appears also that it is contagious and harmful to a few select people -- mostly those who cant comprehend things easily nor have any training or experience in the gaming industry, video gaming, copyright area, intellectual property area and law area in enough capacity to understand that sometimes, veiled implications and not-so-subtle guerilla tactics just wont work. Best of luck to all parties involed , let the truth be told and prevail. I'm done posting in this topic until the court makes it's decision , then we can discuss that decision .
_Pix_: Thanks..... we are still writing and building (and shopping), so selection may not take place for another year (sigh...this stuff takes WAY too long and is way to expensive). by then, who knows what will be available. Maybe another generation will be born. On another note: Solareus: You say you are "seeking truth" but how can you find such truth with "primed" questions suck as the ones detailed below. If you really want the whole story (as presented by BOTH parties), all the information is on the internet...just go find it. _Pix_ side of the situation is thouroughly detailed, but you may have to dig a bit to find the NP side of the argument.... Knowledge is not given, it is sought....wisdom is not bestowed, it is learned... And i damned near pissed myself when i read: If I worked at a lab where I discovered the cure for cancer, then out of haste I quit my lab job, I have no claim to the cure except for the fact I founded it. All the rights belong to the company I created that cure in. I fear and question the values of anyone that makes a connection between Software Technology and curing cancer.... Good luck to all ! Johnny
If it were a world according to agh50, I would love to see Ms. Pourieux, and Jacquet amicably resolve their differences, redress any past inequities, and fix DnL as a joint venture between NPCube and VWorld.
Alas, we do not live in agh50-land or OZ, and it is more probable that the Palestinians and Israelis will finalize a peace accord.
I have read M. Pourieux's accounts of the history between VWorld, Farlan and NPCube. I still get bits and pieces of it a little bit wrong, but he has always been forthcoming and patient with my questions and presents a very convincing argument, (particularly in light with what I have experienced first hand from Farlan when the game was released over a year ago now), and for that I thank him.
However, I am not so niave as to believe that there are not two sides to every story.
It is for the courts to decide, rather than the court of public opinion. Certainly not for a gamer such as I.
I confess I like the game. I like the size, I like the concepts, I like the community, I like the GMs, I like the vision.
There is much about the game I do not like as well.
I hope that whoever may prevail in this issue will have been vindicated; People's lives and careers are at stake here--certainly nothing to be treated lightly--and I assure you, I don't.
Yet from a purely selfish point of view, I would be saddened to see this vision finally blink out.
_Pix_: Thanks..... we are still writing and building (and shopping), so selection may not take place for another year (sigh...this stuff takes WAY too long and is way to expensive). by then, who knows what will be available. Maybe another generation will be born. On another note: Solareus: You say you are "seeking truth" but how can you find such truth with "primed" questions suck as the ones detailed below. If you really want the whole story (as presented by BOTH parties), all the information is on the internet...just go find it. _Pix_ side of the situation is thouroughly detailed, but you may have to dig a bit to find the NP side of the argument.... Knowledge is not given, it is sought....wisdom is not bestowed, it is learned... And i damned near pissed myself when i read: If I worked at a lab where I discovered the cure for cancer, then out of haste I quit my lab job, I have no claim to the cure except for the fact I founded it. All the rights belong to the company I created that cure in. I fear and question the values of anyone that makes a connection between Software Technology and curing cancer.... Good luck to all ! Johnny
You're welcome. Wish you well with your future product!
Just as side note, I am always quite puzzled by people asking questions and later on pretending not to have been expecting an answer. I particularly appreciated the comparison myself (/curing cancer lab): just like you, I don't really see how a comparison can decently be established (however I would point out at the fact that in my case, I would be the researcher at the lab, but also the owner of the lab).
@agh50, re-your pointing out there are always two sides in a story - let's say one Dark, one Light - you are absolutely correct. However let us just remember that Farlan/NPCube and al presented their (complicated, and sometimes quite contradictory) version of the story much earlier than I did. That was done publicly, through numerous websites (and there is still visible trace of that). But also IMVHO more secretly, using much more devious means.
PS: oh, just to correct you on another detail: I am not the author of this particular account (The History of Dark and Light) It's not in my habit to not rendering unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's.
Ya know? The more they delay to try to sweep this under the table, the more the mmorpg community solidifies thier disillusionment, disappointment and lack of trust towards all who are a part of Farlan/NPC?
Farlans/NPCs actions increase the doubts, seems to confirm the general consensus and is just another step in the wrong direction against themselves. These guys are supposed to be highly respected businessmen (implying a bit of savvy in the workings of PR and such ) in the little island they dwell on -- standards and role models must be extremely low, desperate, cheap and easy over there. Doesnt say much for the people of Reunion Island either.
I haven't seen that pic yet Zorv which displays your refind look!
What's all this shoe talk? It must be an inside joke because I'm lost.
Tephtanis, you have no idea how uneasy it makes me that you're the one interested in my pic, and not the ladies
Oh, and it is kinda an inside joke. Ya get 5 extra forum points if you can find any of the references in the DnL forums
Yeah, I see your point. I was actually hoping you'd be in a zootsuit or some such in your new pic so I could make fun of you.
You might as well offer me a cool mil to find those references in that massive mess!
While going back through the posts in this thread, I was reminded that I never posted a new pic as i intended, Tep. So, here ya go, if you're still reading these boards.
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Hey you fly I'll buy on the popcorn. Seems they are starting again with trying to get more people suckered into this game.
They give themselves away all the time. In their own actions, they claim injury yet deny that injury in public, wth do they think they can do? Do they honestly believe the French courts are as gullible as the few still trying to promote this game?
The more they try to scream "unfair" the more absolute they make their own "Idiot Rating"
Used to be Farlan/NPcube were the ones I found funny as hell. now, I laugh at any lawyer willing to take their case.
lol You got it Zorv. It seems they say, "what we said before doesnt exist, never existed, and if you find it, then you are the idiot, not us cuz today, right here right now, this is what we are saying is the truth and what we said before didnt happen but if it did happen it was the result of the fans pressuring us and the naysayers being unfair about how bad our game is and the people who walked out on us and the company that was responsible for the payment processing only, all those didnt exist, never did so you listen to us today,right here right now and know that this is the truth that in a court of law can be used but since the other stuff doesnt exist, the courts wont and dont know about it cuz even though its there it never existed and if it did it wasnt our fault so listen to us today, right here right now because the other truth doesnt or ever did exist and if it did it was the result of other people and the fans not us so you listen...........
great...and now i have a nose bleed.
Well... today 's update: (source)
November 9, 2007- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand]
NPCube files its submissions in reply to VWORLD's on last October 5th. In its submissions, VWORLD pointed out that it could not be held in any way responsible for NPCube's various failures, failures which seemed to be quite simply directly imputable to NPCube's own doings, notably its own deceitful communication. NPCube's reply consists in simply repeating its accusations against VWORLD and holding that VWORLD's submissions were "off the point", and therefore chosing not to reply further. The next hearing is scheduled for January 17th, 2008.
@JohnyCache: click on the links of my signature: this will answer your PM question.
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Well... today 's update: (source)
November 9, 2007- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand]
NPCube files its submissions in reply to VWORLD's on last October 5th. In its submissions, VWORLD pointed out that it could not be held in any way responsible for NPCube's various failures, failures which seemed to be quite simply directly imputable to NPCube's own doings, notably its own deceitful communication. NPCube's reply consists in simply repeating its accusations against VWORLD and holding that VWORLD's submissions were "off the point", and therefore chosing not to reply further. The next hearing is scheduled for January 17th, 2008.
@JohnyCache: click on the links of my signature: this will answer your PM question.
All I can say is that lawyers in Europe must be some of the wealthiest individuals on the entire planet, if it takes this long simply to submit rebuttals and get an adjudication on specific points.
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Well... today 's update: (source)
November 9, 2007- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand]
NPCube files its submissions in reply to VWORLD's on last October 5th. In its submissions, VWORLD pointed out that it could not be held in any way responsible for NPCube's various failures, failures which seemed to be quite simply directly imputable to NPCube's own doings, notably its own deceitful communication. NPCube's reply consists in simply repeating its accusations against VWORLD and holding that VWORLD's submissions were "off the point", and therefore chosing not to reply further. The next hearing is scheduled for January 17th, 2008.
@JohnyCache: click on the links of my signature: this will answer your PM question.
okay okay now wait:
you file for valid reasons of various areas including Farlan stealing the use of VWORLD. They in turn file against you saying their absolute failure in this endeavor is all your fault. You in turn answer it aint your fault they are totally inept in all areas and they file back that your answer is irrevelant.
ok ok So Farlan says we took mr pix's tech without any previous legal doc regarding the sale of his copyright or his waiver of rights towards it but the game failed anyway and not because we have admitted that we dont know how to use it even though we are claiming to own it ourselves and that mr pix was hired to do that for us but he left us and even sabotaged it so we couldnt fix it in that he put an "unbreakable code" in it (something the US homeland security would be interested in) but we own it and our company made it we just did it with his help but we dont know how it works but its ours.
Now even though we dont know how it works, cant figure it out and have admitted that we dont know how to even get into the code because we believe mr pix put an unbreakable code in it so we couldnt but we own it and he was only an employee on it and if we ever said something as silly as an unbreakable code done by mr pix then that was due to the pressure of the fans who wanted us to release too early cuz we knew the game wasnt ready cuz we couldnt figure out the code but the pressure they placed on us to release was too tremendous to overcome so we released it to the detriment of farlan and npc because our employees walked out on us years before, even our art guy, but because of that we have had dismal failures in everything from the game itself to the PR of our company but its all because of one man, mr pix , who we claim was only one employee but who also is the creator of this technology and had copyrights from years before he started to work for us and our false paperwork regarding a contract with him doesnt matter cuz it doesnt exist but if it did exist then it was only as a result of the dismal failure of this entire endeavor but the failures are only the result of one man and that man is mr pix even though he has nothing to do with our company other than owning the technology we are trying to use and pass off as ours but its only as a result of the pressure of the fans to release so its not our fault but the fault of the many whom have walked on us and left us to our own incompetent work one of which is the guy who developed a technology that we claim as ours but we have no clue how it all works but thats not our fault and all this is besides the point anyway
cuz the point is not whether or not our failures are caused by our own actions but because of one man, mr pix, walking out on us and raising a stink about us using his years before copyrighted technology without permission nor compensation and us having abysmal failures in every aspect of this endeavor but we are going to raise those issues in conjunction with our claims of everything else good but any answer from mr pix is off the point cuz really we dont want to hear that cuz even though we are claiming its all his fault any answer he gives relating to the placement of fault is irrevelant cuz we are not incompetent and this is our technology even though we have admitted that we havent a clue how to even begin with the coding, we claimed also that he embedded an unbreakable code which the worlds security scientists may just be interested so we couldnt work on it , then we tried to cover it all up with the use of another company implying responsibility of the tech but its not them really its really VWORLD but any remarks mr pix has to say about that is irrevelant and off the point cuz even though we are accusing him his answers are off the point and really this has nothing to do with our failures but we are claiming our failures are his fault so we must not answer and claim off the point cuz really it is cuz we didnt fail and we didnt falsely accuse, it was all the fault of the fans pressuring us and the last two years have been a mess cuz mr pix and a few other select employees walked out on us but not because of our incompetence, inexperience or absolute bs all the way but because mr pix wont allow us to just take his work and use it and profit off it and have him continue to work on it with us so we are making excuses but if those excuses are evident then they arent really excuses just imaginary posts and press releases and interview answers that really didnt happen so really there is no point to mr pix defending himself cuz we really didnt do all that and besides even though we filed against him the answers he gives us are off the point anyway..........
okay I get it! " if you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh***" ......good going Farlan and NPC! You truly do have the "gift".
Well... today 's update: (source)
November 9, 2007- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand]
NPCube files its submissions in reply to VWORLD's on last October 5th. In its submissions, VWORLD pointed out that it could not be held in any way responsible for NPCube's various failures, failures which seemed to be quite simply directly imputable to NPCube's own doings, notably its own deceitful communication. NPCube's reply consists in simply repeating its accusations against VWORLD and holding that VWORLD's submissions were "off the point", and therefore chosing not to reply further. The next hearing is scheduled for January 17th, 2008.
@JohnyCache: click on the links of my signature: this will answer your PM question.
okay okay now wait:
you file for valid reasons of various areas including Farlan stealing the use of VWORLD. They in turn file against you saying their absolute failure in this endeavor is all your fault. You in turn answer it aint your fault they are totally inept in all areas and they file back that your answer is irrevelant.
ok ok So Farlan says we took mr pix's tech without any previous legal doc regarding the sale of his copyright or his waiver of rights towards it but the game failed anyway and not because we have admitted that we dont know how to use it even though we are claiming to own it ourselves and that mr pix was hired to do that for us but he left us and even sabotaged it so we couldnt fix it in that he put an "unbreakable code" in it (something the US homeland security would be interested in) but we own it and our company made it we just did it with his help but we dont know how it works but its ours.
Now even though we dont know how it works, cant figure it out and have admitted that we dont know how to even get into the code because we believe mr pix put an unbreakable code in it so we couldnt but we own it and he was only an employee on it and if we ever said something as silly as an unbreakable code done by mr pix then that was due to the pressure of the fans who wanted us to release too early cuz we knew the game wasnt ready cuz we couldnt figure out the code but the pressure they placed on us to release was too tremendous to overcome so we released it to the detriment of farlan and npc because our employees walked out on us years before, even our art guy, but because of that we have had dismal failures in everything from the game itself to the PR of our company but its all because of one man, mr pix , who we claim was only one employee but who also is the creator of this technology and had copyrights from years before he started to work for us and our false paperwork regarding a contract with him doesnt matter cuz it doesnt exist but if it did exist then it was only as a result of the dismal failure of this entire endeavor but the failures are only the result of one man and that man is mr pix even though he has nothing to do with our company other than owning the technology we are trying to use and pass off as ours but its only as a result of the pressure of the fans to release so its not our fault but the fault of the many whom have walked on us and left us to our own incompetent work one of which is the guy who developed a technology that we claim as ours but we have no clue how it all works but thats not our fault and all this is besides the point anyway
cuz the point is not whether or not our failures are caused by our own actions but because of one man, mr pix, walking out on us and raising a stink about us using his years before copyrighted technology without permission nor compensation and us having abysmal failures in every aspect of this endeavor but we are going to raise those issues in conjunction with our claims of everything else good but any answer from mr pix is off the point cuz really we dont want to hear that cuz even though we are claiming its all his fault any answer he gives relating to the placement of fault is irrevelant cuz we are not incompetent and this is our technology even though we have admitted that we havent a clue how to even begin with the coding, we claimed also that he embedded an unbreakable code which the worlds security scientists may just be interested so we couldnt work on it , then we tried to cover it all up with the use of another company implying responsibility of the tech but its not them really its really VWORLD but any remarks mr pix has to say about that is irrevelant and off the point cuz even though we are accusing him his answers are off the point and really this has nothing to do with our failures but we are claiming our failures are his fault so we must not answer and claim off the point cuz really it is cuz we didnt fail and we didnt falsely accuse, it was all the fault of the fans pressuring us and the last two years have been a mess cuz mr pix and a few other select employees walked out on us but not because of our incompetence, inexperience or absolute bs all the way but because mr pix wont allow us to just take his work and use it and profit off it and have him continue to work on it with us so we are making excuses but if those excuses are evident then they arent really excuses just imaginary posts and press releases and interview answers that really didnt happen so really there is no point to mr pix defending himself cuz we really didnt do all that and besides even though we filed against him the answers he gives us are off the point anyway..........
okay I get it! " if you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh***" ......good going Farlan and NPC! You truly do have the "gift".
Heheh,Cho, I just gotta say:
I have never seen anyone be able to type a response in the classic "wall of text" format, as you have done above, that 1) I've actually been compelled to read and 2) made friggen sense!
i don't know whether I should love ya, or run away scared!
Anywho, looks like you summed it up nicely, there. The sad thing is farlan actually thinks they're staying ahead of the game ( no pun intended ) by pulling this farcical crap. Wish I had access to their medicine cabinets.............................
okay okay now wait:
you file for valid reasons of various areas including Farlan stealing the use of VWORLD. They in turn file against you saying their absolute failure in this endeavor is all your fault. You in turn answer it aint your fault they are totally inept in all areas and they file back that your answer is irrevelant.
ok ok So Farlan says we took mr pix's tech without any previous legal doc regarding the sale of his copyright or his waiver of rights towards it but the game failed anyway and not because we have admitted that we dont know how to use it even though we are claiming to own it ourselves and that mr pix was hired to do that for us but he left us and even sabotaged it so we couldnt fix it in that he put an "unbreakable code" in it (something the US homeland security would be interested in) but we own it and our company made it we just did it with his help but we dont know how it works but its ours.
Now even though we dont know how it works, cant figure it out and have admitted that we dont know how to even get into the code because we believe mr pix put an unbreakable code in it so we couldnt but we own it and he was only an employee on it and if we ever said something as silly as an unbreakable code done by mr pix then that was due to the pressure of the fans who wanted us to release too early cuz we knew the game wasnt ready cuz we couldnt figure out the code but the pressure they placed on us to release was too tremendous to overcome so we released it to the detriment of farlan and npc because our employees walked out on us years before, even our art guy, but because of that we have had dismal failures in everything from the game itself to the PR of our company but its all because of one man, mr pix , who we claim was only one employee but who also is the creator of this technology and had copyrights from years before he started to work for us and our false paperwork regarding a contract with him doesnt matter cuz it doesnt exist but if it did exist then it was only as a result of the dismal failure of this entire endeavor but the failures are only the result of one man and that man is mr pix even though he has nothing to do with our company other than owning the technology we are trying to use and pass off as ours but its only as a result of the pressure of the fans to release so its not our fault but the fault of the many whom have walked on us and left us to our own incompetent work one of which is the guy who developed a technology that we claim as ours but we have no clue how it all works but thats not our fault and all this is besides the point anyway
cuz the point is not whether or not our failures are caused by our own actions but because of one man, mr pix, walking out on us and raising a stink about us using his years before copyrighted technology without permission nor compensation and us having abysmal failures in every aspect of this endeavor but we are going to raise those issues in conjunction with our claims of everything else good but any answer from mr pix is off the point cuz really we dont want to hear that cuz even though we are claiming its all his fault any answer he gives relating to the placement of fault is irrevelant cuz we are not incompetent and this is our technology even though we have admitted that we havent a clue how to even begin with the coding, we claimed also that he embedded an unbreakable code which the worlds security scientists may just be interested so we couldnt work on it , then we tried to cover it all up with the use of another company implying responsibility of the tech but its not them really its really VWORLD but any remarks mr pix has to say about that is irrevelant and off the point cuz even though we are accusing him his answers are off the point and really this has nothing to do with our failures but we are claiming our failures are his fault so we must not answer and claim off the point cuz really it is cuz we didnt fail and we didnt falsely accuse, it was all the fault of the fans pressuring us and the last two years have been a mess cuz mr pix and a few other select employees walked out on us but not because of our incompetence, inexperience or absolute bs all the way but because mr pix wont allow us to just take his work and use it and profit off it and have him continue to work on it with us so we are making excuses but if those excuses are evident then they arent really excuses just imaginary posts and press releases and interview answers that really didnt happen so really there is no point to mr pix defending himself cuz we really didnt do all that and besides even though we filed against him the answers he gives us are off the point anyway..........
okay I get it! " if you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh***" ......good going Farlan and NPC! You truly do have the "gift".
ROFLMAO Classic Cho!
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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Umm Sole, I see you are at it again. Unless you are privy to the contract under employment, were there at the signing and agreement of and have factual knowledge and can support with links such as _Pix_ does, dont you think that your post is a little out of line and well, full of ASSumptions?
You present questions as facts then have the gall to tell the person whom you are indirectly accusing of falsely claiming not to respond under a threat of "used against you in the court of law"??? Unless you are in fact in the court room at the time of the final hammer down, dont you think your words are a bit....well...sloppy and well....a bit ignorant (ie unlearned)...in this case and in your attempted but failed veiling of untruths against _Pix_?
As your perspective, in wanting to see truth, yet you do distinctly do not wish to have the person you are alleging false statements to, to respond?
Gee, you taking your cue from Farlan or wait, lemme guess, you're on the legal team , right!?!?! BOOYAH!!
Cho, although what you say is indeed the truth as much as the public can know at this time and although what you say does make sense, there are those that will come around here, make their stupid little posts just to get one of us to respond and have them complain at the slightest ASSumption. Where this game is concerned, its watch your back even in the completely innocent and free forum posting.
There is a pattern set now that cant be missed. Posting that the sky is blue when one of the shills/trolls says its green could be grounds for them to complain.
I happen to support mr _pix_ in this entire affair as well as support those long term and older but screwed over ex-players. I especially respect mr_ pix_ and your posts. You both have made this an interesting and informative thread for the thousands that were screwed over.
Hats off to you Mr. _Pix_ and hats off to you too Cholayna, Killion, Zorvan and all the rest who continue to support the mmorpg community against companies like Farcelan and NPCease.
Did the poster have presence in the negotiation and signing of the contract?
Did the poster fail to read the supporting documentation that is/was available to the public?
Did the poster have actual knowledge of the internal affairs of the company regarding the technologys abilities at the time?
Sole, please do not respond to this post....your answers would be construed as heresay and without substantion. My post is just the perspective I wish to see answered by all those who claim to have inside information as casual players of DNL insofar as company internal negotiations and private contracts go.
I really hate seeing independent developers who orchestrate their own destruction and downfall by their own actions and throw so much false info and continual guerilla tactics in placing blame at the lap of a single person.
This is the perspective and angle I chose to look at this subject , I am not for or against anyone or anything except the truth. Difference is, I am able and willing to do my own homework first and have made the only conclusion as to the facts to the public as it stands now. I do not claim any inside information on either part of this nor do I wish to imply that perception nor will I imply that perception.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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Well, solareus, nothing just can be used against me, since, you see, quite simply, nobody is sueing me before a Court of Law. It's not because Farlan/NPCube via Alchemic Dream announced in 2005 that they were sueing me that you need to spread further this idea that I am being the one who is sued, because the simple truth you seem to be seeking desperately is that I AM NOT.
As far the new strategy you're trying to put forward in posting here (including PMing me about that particular question) that is to say claiming that VWorldTerrain technology is not suited to Gaming applications, I'll be quite straightforward in answering by stressing the 3 following points:
1-this strategy has already been used by NPCube quite a long time ago and is IMVHO a bit outdated now (remember the claim Mafate had been "re-written" because the technology it used was imposing constraints that were not allowing to issue a product correponding to the Ambitions of its developer and publisher)
2- I would recommend you to stick to the "official", "initial" strategy, which was to imply that I was a simple salaried employee (though also co-founder), who was paid to develop a technology at NPCube
3- anyhow your theory here does not explain still why NPCube uses a technology (wether a "suitable" one or not) which does not belong to it. Maybe the explanation is quite simple, if we ponder about the possible reasons which motivated Farlan to overcharge/unduly bill repeatedly its customers and has not delivered yet the product its customers pre-bought (not simply pre-ordered) end 2005.
On a final note, understand I cannot decently respond anonymous PMs when its author is so blatantly (but to no avail) trying to harass and discredit the Person he is writing to (unless of course that author has the decency to indicate his full ID and engages upon having its own writings potentially introduced in a Court of Law.)
Thanks for your contribution.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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_Pix_:
Thanks.....
we are still writing and building (and shopping), so selection may not take place for another year (sigh...this stuff takes WAY too long and is way to expensive). by then, who knows what will be available. Maybe another generation will be born.
On another note:
Solareus:
You say you are "seeking truth" but how can you find such truth with "primed" questions suck as the ones detailed below. If you really want the whole story (as presented by BOTH parties), all the information is on the internet...just go find it. _Pix_ side of the situation is thouroughly detailed, but you may have to dig a bit to find the NP side of the argument....
Knowledge is not given, it is sought....wisdom is not bestowed, it is learned...
And i damned near pissed myself when i read:
If I worked at a lab where I discovered the cure for cancer, then out of haste I quit my lab job, I have no claim to the cure except for the fact I founded it. All the rights belong to the company I created that cure in.
I fear and question the values of anyone that makes a connection between Software Technology and curing cancer....
Good luck to all !
Johnny
Excellent Post Johnny.Your points are right on. LOvE the wisdom quote.
I have to agree totally with your response.
If it were a world according to agh50, I would love to see Ms. Pourieux, and Jacquet amicably resolve their differences, redress any past inequities, and fix DnL as a joint venture between NPCube and VWorld.
Alas, we do not live in agh50-land or OZ, and it is more probable that the Palestinians and Israelis will finalize a peace accord.
I have read M. Pourieux's accounts of the history between VWorld, Farlan and NPCube. I still get bits and pieces of it a little bit wrong, but he has always been forthcoming and patient with my questions and presents a very convincing argument, (particularly in light with what I have experienced first hand from Farlan when the game was released over a year ago now), and for that I thank him.
However, I am not so niave as to believe that there are not two sides to every story.
It is for the courts to decide, rather than the court of public opinion. Certainly not for a gamer such as I.
I confess I like the game. I like the size, I like the concepts, I like the community, I like the GMs, I like the vision.
There is much about the game I do not like as well.
I hope that whoever may prevail in this issue will have been vindicated; People's lives and careers are at stake here--certainly nothing to be treated lightly--and I assure you, I don't.
Yet from a purely selfish point of view, I would be saddened to see this vision finally blink out.
Just my 2 cp.
You're welcome. Wish you well with your future product!
Just as side note, I am always quite puzzled by people asking questions and later on pretending not to have been expecting an answer. I particularly appreciated the comparison myself (/curing cancer lab): just like you, I don't really see how a comparison can decently be established (however I would point out at the fact that in my case, I would be the researcher at the lab, but also the owner of the lab).
@agh50, re-your pointing out there are always two sides in a story - let's say one Dark, one Light - you are absolutely correct. However let us just remember that Farlan/NPCube and al presented their (complicated, and sometimes quite contradictory) version of the story much earlier than I did. That was done publicly, through numerous websites (and there is still visible trace of that). But also IMVHO more secretly, using much more devious means.
PS: oh, just to correct you on another detail: I am not the author of this particular account (The History of Dark and Light) It's not in my habit to not rendering unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
Ya know? The more they delay to try to sweep this under the table, the more the mmorpg community solidifies thier disillusionment, disappointment and lack of trust towards all who are a part of Farlan/NPC?
Farlans/NPCs actions increase the doubts, seems to confirm the general consensus and is just another step in the wrong direction against themselves. These guys are supposed to be highly respected businessmen (implying a bit of savvy in the workings of PR and such ) in the little island they dwell on -- standards and role models must be extremely low, desperate, cheap and easy over there. Doesnt say much for the people of Reunion Island either.
Tephtanis, you have no idea how uneasy it makes me that you're the one interested in my pic, and not the ladies
Oh, and it is kinda an inside joke. Ya get 5 extra forum points if you can find any of the references in the DnL forums
Yeah, I see your point. I was actually hoping you'd be in a zootsuit or some such in your new pic so I could make fun of you.
You might as well offer me a cool mil to find those references in that massive mess!
While going back through the posts in this thread, I was reminded that I never posted a new pic as i intended, Tep. So, here ya go, if you're still reading these boards.oohh...Zorvan....
can i model your head and use him as a bad guy?...no offense, but you have that "crazy ivan" look that would make a sweet villan...
Sure, why not. Heh, I could finally say I have a portfolio.