We will all lose if it comes to america and noth korea deside to shoot nukes off at eachother with the technolgey now a world war 3 would be devestaint for the hole planet
I doubt either North Korea or Iran would use nukes preemptively against the United States. We've got enough nuclear firepower to turn both those countries into radioactive parking lots. The main danger is some terrorist nutjob(s) getting their hands on a nuke.
LOL, that is without a doubt the single most obnoxious, arrogant, yet absolutely hilarious sigs I have seen! Hehe. Even better than the baby getting 'owned' by grandma. I don't think I'll be able to get that out of my head for at least an hour or so. Too funny! Me like.
Originally posted by ronan32 after all the bombings, wars and conflicts between nation the american government has cause it was only a matter of time before it came back to bite them in the ass.Every great civilisation or nation has been defeated eventually and america is no different,if the america government keeps up these bully tactics eventually someone will come along and kick theyre ass,and i for one wont shed a tear. p.s America is about to get owned.
LOL!!
Man you are a laugh RIOT!!!
Like it or not for the past 230 years America has been a beacon of freedom and hope throughout the world.
Have you ever seen on the news an American suicide bomber walking into a populated area and blowing himself up in the name of his god?Or have you ever seen the President of the United States actually threaten in a press conference to drop a nuclear bomb on another nation?
But its ok if a insane dictator who has been starving his own people to have Nuclear weapons.
Incase you hadnt heard the U.S. is not the only nation to be concerned over this.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Originally posted by Jodando I think both countries should just send their best gamers and have them duke it out over Halo or something.
Are you freaking crazy? Dude, they're Korean! That's such an unfair advantage! They'd whoop us silly at video games :P Oh, okay, maybe that's a S. Korea thing more so, but they could steal S. Korea's best gamer to fight us.
One the other hand it would be a cool PPV match to watch. I for one have been lobbying for years that all wars ought to be fought by the most attractive woman from each country in the dispute fighting in jell-o. The only real flaw in my logic is some country's "most attractive woman" would still be pretty damned scary
"What is it I have against Microsoft, you ask? Well, you know how you feel when you wait for an MMO to come out and when it does you feel like you've paid to play it's beta test for another 6-9 months before anything even thinks of working the way it should? Being a network engineer you feel that way about anything Microsoft puts out."
Originally posted by ronan32 after all the bombings, wars and conflicts between nation the american government has cause it was only a matter of time before it came back to bite them in the ass.Every great civilisation or nation has been defeated eventually and america is no different,if the america government keeps up these bully tactics eventually someone will come along and kick theyre ass,and i for one wont shed a tear. p.s America is about to get owned.
Originally posted by Malachi1975 Originally posted by robbykl1415 Look at all this S*** that everone is talking about. U.S. would own or North Korea or whoever nuked first, blah blah blah. STFU. Thats the reason why S*** like this happens in the first place, cause us as Americans think we are so much better then the rest of the world. The OP was not about who would win in a nuke war or anthing like that. This is just another terrorism tactic that the gov is going to use to controlle the population. Nothing will happen. And the article was not about who would win or that North Korea was this "bad" country. All NK said was that they would strike back if we lauched a nuke at them. Is that so bad to say? I mean really, would any of you do differenty? All they were saying was the truth. Not threating or anything. So don't do what the gov wants you to do and overreact and become all patriotic and back America in another useless war agaisnt NK or anyone else. So just stop being stupid and say who would own who in a nuke war. In a nuke war everyone looses. And maybe the "Great United States" will be the last one standing but the earth will be inhabital, so in the end we all lose.
You know, I agree with you really. Despite even my bravado when people spout off crap about the U.S. the whole thing WOULD be stupid. The only thing I want to correct you on is what I highlighted. N. Korea did not say they would launch a nuclear strike if we launched one at them first, they said they would launch an "annihilating nuclear strike against ANY pre-emptive strike". This could mean something as small as sending a few planes over their airspace, something they have been screaming about for years whether or not it's actually happening.
In short the threat is "Even so much as knock on our door too loud and we're going to nuke away." That's just...daft.
Yea I got that part wrong. But I seriously doubt that NK would lauch nukes at us if we felw into their air space. But then again you never know. Also you gotta factor in that China would back NK in a heartbeat. But as I said before everyone loses in a nuke war.
We should get some dog poop and put it in a bag, then we could go knock on their door and light it on fire and RUN! Hahahaha. Then blame it on Mexico or somthing. Or we could do a basic egging. We could blame that one on Italy, who needs them anyways?
The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced.- Frank Zappa
Sounds like the rhetoric most nations would use if another country attacked them. Attack us and we'll attack you, pretty mucha sound diplomatic principle since the dawn of history.
Originally posted by Faemus I wonder why bush & company went looking so hard for a military conflict in iraq when they could have waited for an ACTUAL threat to fall in their laps.
/agree
now not only are we (uk) but you to (USA) are too streched to have another "war" blair and bush have failed now we are in danger from these people and we only have nukes as a real option to defend ourselfs and if they were used i think WWIII would be just around the corner
EDIT: no i think WWIII "IS" just around the corner
Originally posted by janjanson If North Korea made a move on South Korea does anybody think the west would get involved militarily? I am sure there would be condemnation from the UN, but would we take on a nuclear power?
Of course we would! We would have to, no matter what. We would have to pull our troops from Iraq, Afghanistan, Europe, and of course we already have troops in South Korea. But we would do that in a second and send them all to the DMZ. And because we already have troops there on the front lines we would have to move, because any attack by NK would take some American lives. Also SK is a very strategic spot for the U.S. I mean its our gateway to China basically. We would move in with out a doubt. And IMO it would be WW3. But then again I really dont think that NK is going to attack SK. I always compare Castro assasinatiny Kennedy to NK attacking SK. After Kennedy got shot they had an interview with Castro and basically asked him if he had Kennedy killed. And he flat out told them no, and went on to say that that would of been one of the stupidest things he could of done because it would of given America a perfect reason to invade Cuba. Not to compare NK with Cuba. But I dont think NK is really that stupid to open up the can of worms we like to call America. Not that we are all powerful, but it would be one of the stupidest things they could do. I mean they are just getting the nukes up, they dont want to give us another reason to start a war with them. See the nukes are no so much a weapon as they are a leverage tool, and they dont want to lose that tool quite yet. I believe that once they get a little more powerful they will use this tool inconjuction with China and maybe some other smaller nations to become the main "superpower"s. Kind of how we think we are with England right now. But see the future does not seem to include America IMO. It looks like the alliance that I mentioned above and the European Union. I believe the future will not be nation agaisnt nation, but more of alliance against alliance. I just do not see America standing up to any major alliance. You also have the middle east, if they could get their act together. I believe that America will soon lose a lot of power very fast. Just somthing we will have to deal with and adapt with or the American way of life will fail. Good thing I'll be out of the country by then . Really none of this post is based of facts more of my opinion and interpirtation of what I know and have seen. Although the Castro stuff is true and some other things.
The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced.- Frank Zappa
Originally posted by Malachi1975 Originally posted by ronan32 after all the bombings, wars and conflicts between nation the american government has cause it was only a matter of time before it came back to bite them in the ass.Every great civilisation or nation has been defeated eventually and america is no different,if the america government keeps up these bully tactics eventually someone will come along and kick theyre ass,and i for one wont shed a tear. p.s America is about to get owned.
You'r stunning intellect shows through here. You'd like to see America "get Now let's just rule out the U.S. reactings with nuclear capabilities. I think at that point we'd just give Japan and S. Korea a nod and let them at it. Both countries are none too fond of N. Korea and both are quite capable of devouring them militaristically in a short time.
North Korea has more soldiers in it's army than the combined armed forces of the U.S.
South Korea wants peace and unification with the North, not war. The Japanese are pacifists and constitutionally barred from invading anywhere.
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A few notes on other posts. The U.S. is the worlds No.2 military power. Russia outguns the U.S on nukes 3:2.
Shooting down enemy missiles is currently a fantasy. Anti missile systems were first used in conflict in 1982 and last used in 2003. So far the best results they have achieved in combat is to shoot down a friendly plane.
The U.N. is not a political body. It has no powers, it cannot "do" anything. it is a diplomatic institution at which nations from all over the world can discuss what they would like to do and make treaties amongst each other.
Originally posted by Puoltry Originally posted by ronan32 after all the bombings, wars and conflicts between nation the american government has cause it was only a matter of time before it came back to bite them in the ass.Every great civilisation or nation has been defeated eventually and america is no different,if the america government keeps up these bully tactics eventually someone will come along and kick theyre ass,and i for one wont shed a tear. p.s America is about to get owned.
LOL!!
Man you are a laugh RIOT!!!
Like it or not for the past 230 years America has been a beacon of freedom and hope throughout the world.
-Wrong.
Have you ever seen on the news an American suicide bomber walking into a populated area and blowing himself up in the name of his god?
-Wrong.
Or have you ever seen the President of the United States actually threaten in a press conference to drop a nuclear bomb on another nation?
-Wrong.
But its ok if a insane dictator who has been starving his own people to have Nuclear weapons.
-Wrong (yeah, ok, sarcasm :P )
Incase you hadnt heard the U.S. is not the only nation to be concerned over this.
Originally posted by robbykl1415 Yea I got that part wrong. But I seriously doubt that NK would lauch nukes at us if we felw into their air space. But then again you never know.
They would be fools not to. American troops have been staging invasion exercises on the Korea Border for 50 years. The Americans have consistently refused to sign non aggression treaties. Bush and Americans accross the board condemn North Korea openly as an enemy.
A deterant unused is not a deterrant.
North Korean's are not morons, they can only reasonably assume from this behaviour that America wants aggression. It is essential for the freedom of the people of North Korea that they develop a nuclear weapon capable of hitting mainland U.S.A. The burden of developing this kind of a weapon system in a country so small has economically crippled it for many years. Despite sharing a border with China and Russia and being a natural buffer zone between those three great powers, neither China nor Russia has been willing to provide North Korea with nuclear assistence as that would also change the balance of power on their own borders.
While the handful of nuclear weapons North Korea might possess isn't enough to reduce America to ash, a single one could destroy New York. How badly does America want to invade or destroy North Korea? Not that badly is my guess. The price has become too high. (The new Korean missile does not have the potential range to hit New York currently, only Alaska). Further to this an ICBM opens up a new level of combat, it can kill your leaders.
With the ability of North Korea to nuke America, the balance of power is changed. North Korea can now invade South Korea with conventional forces should it so wish. America's nuclear Ace has been matched. The balance of power in that region altered.
Unlike in the invasion of Iraq, where our leaders can order peoples deaths from the safety of their armchairs, in an ICBM engagement, Washington is a prime target. They and their families can be killed too. Once Korea (north and south) as a country gains the level of independence from outside interferenece (be it Japanese, Russian or American), that only ICBM's can currently deliver, it will be intresting to see how the social situation develops.
Koreas independence is a problem for America. (And by knock on, her investors). Korea is the edge of the American empire. If Korea gains independance? What about Taiwan? and then Japan and so on. America's pacific trade is a about half of it's business. This is a very real threat to the American standard of life.
i can threaten to blow up america too, don't mean i'm able to do it.
yes the u.s. will fall someday, but it will be from the inside, and for the better. until then, enjoy your national i.d. cards and the chips implanted in your arm.
Originally posted by Phoenixs I hope both sides realize their responsibility here and act accordingly.
Yes, the US realizes it has a responsibility to take out the North Korean government and free the starving North Korean people and reunite the Koreas.
If Truman wasn't such a pussy and MacArthur was allowed to keep pushing the Chinese back into China like he wanted to and was doing, we wouldn't be in this mess now.
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Originally posted by Jorev Yes, the US realizes it has a responsibility to take out the North Korean government and free the starving North Korean people and reunite the Koreas.
It's freedom from the U.S. they seek not the freedom of the American way or death.
The reason they are starving is because they want that freedom very badly.
Originally posted by baff Originally posted by Jorev Yes, the US realizes it has a responsibility to take out the North Korean government and free the starving North Korean people and reunite the Koreas.
It's freedom from the U.S. they seek not the freedom of the American way or death.
The reason they are starving is because they want that freedom very badly.
The reason they are starving is because they are living under a Tyranny, one controlled by a madman who makes sure he and his cronies live in comfort and doesn't give a rat's ass about his people.
If they shifted income and effort from weapons production to agricultural development and improving their infrastructure, they would have nothing to fear and not need to be arming themselves. hell the UN, US and the rest of the world would be giving them all kinds of handouts if they did this.
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it." Brad McQuaid Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc. Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes www.vanguardsoh
Originally posted by baff Originally posted by Jorev Yes, the US realizes it has a responsibility to take out the North Korean government and free the starving North Korean people and reunite the Koreas.
It's freedom from the U.S. they seek not the freedom of the American way or death.
The reason they are starving is because they want that freedom very badly.
Now when you say "They" seek freedom from the US... do you mean Kim Jong Il, or the people dieing in their politcal work camps?
Originally posted by fulmanfu i can threaten to blow up america too, don't mean i'm able to do it. yes the u.s. will fall someday, but it will be from the inside, and for the better. until then, enjoy your national i.d. cards and the chips implanted in your arm.
Too bad the US didn't fold prior to Ronald Reagan winning the cold war, hey comrade? Are all Czechs this ignorant or are you a communist?
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We will all lose if it comes to america and noth korea deside to shoot nukes off at eachother with the technolgey now a world war 3 would be devestaint for the hole planet
LOL, that is without a doubt the single most obnoxious, arrogant, yet absolutely hilarious sigs I have seen! Hehe. Even better than the baby getting 'owned' by grandma. I don't think I'll be able to get that out of my head for at least an hour or so. Too funny! Me like.
Man you are a laugh RIOT!!!
Like it or not for the past 230 years America has been a beacon of freedom and hope throughout the world.
Have you ever seen on the news an American suicide bomber walking into a populated area and blowing himself up in the name of his god?Or have you ever seen the President of the United States actually threaten in a press conference to drop a nuclear bomb on another nation?
But its ok if a insane dictator who has been starving his own people to have Nuclear weapons.
Incase you hadnt heard the U.S. is not the only nation to be concerned over this.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
Are you freaking crazy? Dude, they're Korean! That's such an unfair advantage! They'd whoop us silly at video games :P Oh, okay, maybe that's a S. Korea thing more so, but they could steal S. Korea's best gamer to fight us.
One the other hand it would be a cool PPV match to watch. I for one have been lobbying for years that all wars ought to be fought by the most attractive woman from each country in the dispute fighting in jell-o. The only real flaw in my logic is some country's "most attractive woman" would still be pretty damned scary
"What is it I have against Microsoft, you ask? Well, you know how you feel when you wait for an MMO to come out and when it does you feel like you've paid to play it's beta test for another 6-9 months before anything even thinks of working the way it should? Being a network engineer you feel that way about anything Microsoft puts out."
You know, I agree with you really. Despite even my bravado when people spout off crap about the U.S. the whole thing WOULD be stupid. The only thing I want to correct you on is what I highlighted. N. Korea did not say they would launch a nuclear strike if we launched one at them first, they said they would launch an "annihilating nuclear strike against ANY pre-emptive strike". This could mean something as small as sending a few planes over their airspace, something they have been screaming about for years whether or not it's actually happening.
In short the threat is "Even so much as knock on our door too loud and we're going to nuke away." That's just...daft.
Yea I got that part wrong. But I seriously doubt that NK would lauch nukes at us if we felw into their air space. But then again you never know. Also you gotta factor in that China would back NK in a heartbeat. But as I said before everyone loses in a nuke war.
We should get some dog poop and put it in a bag, then we could go knock on their door and light it on fire and RUN! Hahahaha. Then blame it on Mexico or somthing. Or we could do a basic egging. We could blame that one on Italy, who needs them anyways?
The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced.-
Frank Zappa
That would be pretty far from the truth.
Sounds like the rhetoric most nations would use if another country attacked them. Attack us and we'll attack you, pretty mucha sound diplomatic principle since the dawn of history.
/agree
now not only are we (uk) but you to (USA) are too streched to have another "war" blair and bush have failed now we are in danger from these people and we only have nukes as a real option to defend ourselfs and if they were used i think WWIII would be just around the corner
EDIT: no i think WWIII "IS" just around the corner
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
If North Korea made a move on South Korea does anybody think the west would get involved militarily?
I am sure there would be condemnation from the UN, but would we take on a nuclear power?
The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced.-
Frank Zappa
You'r stunning intellect shows through here. You'd like to see America "get Now let's just rule out the U.S. reactings with nuclear capabilities. I think at that point we'd just give Japan and S. Korea a nod and let them at it. Both countries are none too fond of N. Korea and both are quite capable of devouring them militaristically in a short time.
North Korea has more soldiers in it's army than the combined armed forces of the U.S.
South Korea wants peace and unification with the North, not war. The Japanese are pacifists and constitutionally barred from invading anywhere.
.
.
A few notes on other posts. The U.S. is the worlds No.2 military power. Russia outguns the U.S on nukes 3:2.
Shooting down enemy missiles is currently a fantasy. Anti missile systems were first used in conflict in 1982 and last used in 2003. So far the best results they have achieved in combat is to shoot down a friendly plane.
The U.N. is not a political body. It has no powers, it cannot "do" anything. it is a diplomatic institution at which nations from all over the world can discuss what they would like to do and make treaties amongst each other.
That was true 10 years ago. Welcome to the 21st Century.
Clearly you haven't travelled outside of America in the past 3 years.
LOL!!
Man you are a laugh RIOT!!!
Like it or not for the past 230 years America has been a beacon of freedom and hope throughout the world.
-Wrong.
Have you ever seen on the news an American suicide bomber walking into a populated area and blowing himself up in the name of his god?
-Wrong.
Or have you ever seen the President of the United States actually threaten in a press conference to drop a nuclear bomb on another nation?
-Wrong.
But its ok if a insane dictator who has been starving his own people to have Nuclear weapons.
-Wrong (yeah, ok, sarcasm :P )
Incase you hadnt heard the U.S. is not the only nation to be concerned over this.
-Wrong.
I think that's a failing grade in world history.
They would be fools not to. American troops have been staging invasion exercises on the Korea Border for 50 years. The Americans have consistently refused to sign non aggression treaties. Bush and Americans accross the board condemn North Korea openly as an enemy.
A deterant unused is not a deterrant.
North Korean's are not morons, they can only reasonably assume from this behaviour that America wants aggression. It is essential for the freedom of the people of North Korea that they develop a nuclear weapon capable of hitting mainland U.S.A. The burden of developing this kind of a weapon system in a country so small has economically crippled it for many years. Despite sharing a border with China and Russia and being a natural buffer zone between those three great powers, neither China nor Russia has been willing to provide North Korea with nuclear assistence as that would also change the balance of power on their own borders.
While the handful of nuclear weapons North Korea might possess isn't enough to reduce America to ash, a single one could destroy New York. How badly does America want to invade or destroy North Korea? Not that badly is my guess. The price has become too high. (The new Korean missile does not have the potential range to hit New York currently, only Alaska). Further to this an ICBM opens up a new level of combat, it can kill your leaders.
With the ability of North Korea to nuke America, the balance of power is changed. North Korea can now invade South Korea with conventional forces should it so wish. America's nuclear Ace has been matched. The balance of power in that region altered.
Unlike in the invasion of Iraq, where our leaders can order peoples deaths from the safety of their armchairs, in an ICBM engagement, Washington is a prime target. They and their families can be killed too. Once Korea (north and south) as a country gains the level of independence from outside interferenece (be it Japanese, Russian or American), that only ICBM's can currently deliver, it will be intresting to see how the social situation develops.
Koreas independence is a problem for America. (And by knock on, her investors). Korea is the edge of the American empire. If Korea gains independance? What about Taiwan? and then Japan and so on. America's pacific trade is a about half of it's business. This is a very real threat to the American standard of life.
i can threaten to blow up america too, don't mean i'm able to do it.
yes the u.s. will fall someday, but it will be from the inside, and for the better. until then, enjoy your national i.d. cards and the chips implanted in your arm.
Yes, the US realizes it has a responsibility to take out the North Korean government and free the starving North Korean people and reunite the Koreas.
If Truman wasn't such a pussy and MacArthur was allowed to keep pushing the Chinese back into China like he wanted to and was doing, we wouldn't be in this mess now.
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
It's freedom from the U.S. they seek not the freedom of the American way or death.
The reason they are starving is because they want that freedom very badly.
It's freedom from the U.S. they seek not the freedom of the American way or death.
The reason they are starving is because they want that freedom very badly.
The reason they are starving is because they are living under a Tyranny, one controlled by a madman who makes sure he and his cronies live in comfort and doesn't give a rat's ass about his people.
If they shifted income and effort from weapons production to agricultural development and improving their infrastructure, they would have nothing to fear and not need to be arming themselves. hell the UN, US and the rest of the world would be giving them all kinds of handouts if they did this.
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
It's freedom from the U.S. they seek not the freedom of the American way or death.
The reason they are starving is because they want that freedom very badly.
Now when you say "They" seek freedom from the US... do you mean Kim Jong Il, or the people dieing in their politcal work camps?
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh