Originally posted by Celestian Originally posted by Zoriouz What a PO Crap WoW imitation game. Give me a break, k?
I know this is obvious to those with a few brain cells but Warhammer has been around since before Blizzard was created.
Cheers.
Oh, I'm sure he knows that.
This Zoriouz is a new breed of troll; a vile being created of bitterness, rage, and denial. Formed the moment a die-hard Warcraft fan realizes their beloved lore and game are merely a shoddy knock-off, these creatures loathe all things Warhammer. Rather than accepting the truth for what it is, these very special trolls lash out, finding Warhammer forums to disrupt with cries of "ololz" and "copy!!!11".
Do not hate this troll, pity it. For his fragile little world, founded on the supposed brilliance of Warcraft and apparently unique nature of the artwork, has been destroyed. The foundations, the very core of his being, have been proven false.
Don't worry though, he won't be back. He'll find succor in endless 40-man raids and the promise of the next batch of "purpz" or "oanrges". He's exercised his rage, in that tiny sentence above and will not return, lest he be forced to see the truth once again.
whine : Zomg like wth -_- dont use Goa in europe -_- i still have nightmares from playing daoc europe (played it for 2 years) : / mythic on the other hand ^^ wtf pwnage us daoc servers never lag (eu is one big lag feast ... yes it is ^_^ .. lag .. feast oh and they managed to wipe the database with all chars on one server, and after that ruin the economy on that server)'
basicly Team Goa Sucks -_- well they blame the isp or smt ... -_-
Mythic i pray that i can play on us servers lol course ill be playing this game, but not on team crapgoa's 10 years behind the us servers in patching terms
Mythic = pvp fun :DDD
they made daoc which has the most fun (notice no best anywhere just most fun) pvp imo :-)
"They may not be heard, their cries may fall upon deaf ears, but make no mistake, the dead do speak."
Warhammer came first. WAR graphics look very much like the Warhammer TT figures.
If you compare screenshots from each game you will see they look very little alike. WAR's models are properly figured and textured, with lots of detail and are stylized rather than cartoony. Not only that, but the atmosphere, landscape, and background is a completely different world to live in. Again, things are properly figured and textured, you can see the war and destruction everywhere, things aren't always bright and cheerful, and it looks good.
Someone has already linked my comparisons in this thread, so I won't bother doing it again. If anyone still has any doubts still in your head about whether WAR looks like WoW I suggest looking at them, and shutting up until the game comes out. No one wants to hear this crap anymore.
i kinda think this thread died when the creator made it.
to the guy with the troll thing: its alittle harsh, the games lore was rather good, until they figured out a new way to make money with an expansion, where they totally crapped everything decent in the lore up.
WAR will probaly be better, for PVP lovers, than WoW, but WoW had its 15 minutes of fame..
to the thread creator: graphic isnt everything - **huge sigh**
I love EQ 2 graphics, and I would love to see an MMORPG with massive Realm Vs Realm style PVP using that style of graphics. But honestly, I don't have the money, nor enough cooling fans, to build me a super computer.
Cartoon graphics are easier on the computer than perfectly built Elf faces that visibly sweat after running a mile and a half.
WoW was blocky and cartoony, the colors were bright, the landscapping was cartoony. WAR looks like it'll be borderline cartoony in its character models (some of them) but the landscape (much more important IMO) looks to be on par with EQ 1 and EQ 2 (Both of which beat DAoC hands down, no offense)
BTW, if the dev team's gonna have a human face like the dev that wtfpwnizzled the troll here... sign me up for preorder now.
Warcraft looked quite a bit like Warhammer stuff.. But this is the MMO industry, where WoW came before Warhammer, no wonder people think a similar-looking game is a clone of the most successful MMO ever. And you "Warhammer came first"-people, you seem rather desperate.. first WoW copied Warhammer, and now in the latter parts of this thread, the graphics don't look all that similar anymore..
What's it gonna be?
Personally I prefer the artwork over the miniatures like some others in this thread. Those mark of chaos screenshots look awesome.
Originally posted by Lumster *warning*Do not response to baphamets posts, he is such a 1337 hawtcore gamer that he is always right. The WAR community doesn't want your type here, go back to vanguard.
arnt you the same guy that said that in the aoc forums as well? didn't those posts also get deleted? don't tell me where i can and cannot post, if you don't like it how about you go somewhere els?
BTW if you couldn't tell i was joking you really need to get a clue, thanks
Originally posted by Vrashk Warcraft looked quite a bit like Warhammer stuff.. But this is the MMO industry, where WoW came before Warhammer, no wonder people think a similar-looking game is a clone of the most successful MMO ever. And you "Warhammer came first"-people, you seem rather desperate.. first WoW copied Warhammer, and now in the latter parts of this thread, the graphics don't look all that similar anymore..
What's it gonna be?
Personally I prefer the artwork over the miniatures like some others in this thread. Those mark of chaos screenshots look awesome.
Vrashk, were not desperate, look read the history behind the francise, warhammer was born about twenty,twenty -eight years. But I ree with you, the graphics look nothing alike once you actually look at them.
Originally posted by Synyster777 This is to the fans barking over a mythic rep comment.....you guys sound like a bunch of seagulls and I don't see how the OP was trolling anyway....
Because he came to the WAR section and said "im not going to play this game". Shall we all do the same to every other game we don't play? No, why? Because it's pointless, no one cares and it just causes arguements, and that is trolling.
How does anyone expect to see realistic graphics on a game based on goblins, orcs, and whatnot!? It's a game, and it's not a sim.
Originally posted by iCeh Originally posted by Synyster777 This is to the fans barking over a mythic rep comment.....you guys sound like a bunch of seagulls and I don't see how the OP was trolling anyway....
Because he came to the WAR section and said "im not going to play this game". Shall we all do the same to every other game we don't play? No, why? Because it's pointless, no one cares and it just causes arguements, and that is trolling.
How does anyone expect to see realistic graphics on a game based on goblins, orcs, and whatnot!? It's a game, and it's not a sim.
He stated his opinion knowing the WAR fans would have a spaz and it seemed to work didn't it? If no one cared about what he said this thread wouldn't be ten pages long lol.
Originally posted by Synyster777 Originally posted by iCeh Originally posted by Synyster777 This is to the fans barking over a mythic rep comment.....you guys sound like a bunch of seagulls and I don't see how the OP was trolling anyway....
Because he came to the WAR section and said "im not going to play this game". Shall we all do the same to every other game we don't play? No, why? Because it's pointless, no one cares and it just causes arguements, and that is trolling.
How does anyone expect to see realistic graphics on a game based on goblins, orcs, and whatnot!? It's a game, and it's not a sim.
He stated his opinion knowing the WAR fans would have a spaz and it seemed to work didn't it? If no one cared about what he said this thread wouldn't be ten pages long lol.
I think you misunderstood. I said meant that no one cares whether he plays or not, and i did actually point out that it will cause arguments which is what most of the replies are. Also, it wasn't much of an opinion, he said that he isn't going to give them any of his money... like i said, why bother telling us?
If he wants realism, he's not going to find it in a game with Goblins and Orcs is he?
WAR's graphics are what I like to call 'Graphic novel'. Cartoony enough that the game world looks interesting and alive but realistic anough that it can be taken seriously as a dark and gritty world.
"Two things are infinite-the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe"-Albert Einstein
its more like a mature cartoony i dont see how the graphics could change your mind though...i mean screens aint it all man Originally posted by Morskittar Dodgy? As a negative? Warcraft is nothing more than Warhammer-lite. Both have the same creation story, the same metaphysics, and similar themes (no absolute good and evil). Warcraft just has an infinitely shallower take on the whole deal.
Warcraft "lore" feels like a comic book or anime. Every few years there's a New Menace to Everything That Must Be Stopped. First, orcs from another world. Then it turns out these orcs were duped by Chaos (or... Chaos-lite, from their warp-lite), so they can be good guys (Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch OLOLOL!!!11), because there's an EVILER EVIL that Must Be Stopped If It's The Last Thing We Do. Oh, and they have Elric/Aenarion/Vader on their side. Who's tragic, by the way. Really. Then, that's finished up and it moves on to Bug People.
It's the same villian-of-the-season format that Yu-gi-oh! follows: building up to the next "OMG BIG REVEAL!!!11" but there's not a lot of substance.
Warhammer, on the other hand, follows the form of a history class. Like a book that combines a hybrid of Moorcock's Chaos with Lovecraft, then sticks that in 16th century pre/early-Reformation Germany. It's convoluted, contradictory, thouroughly fascinating, and it doesn't change (much); just like real-life history. It borrows from original sources and finds depth there. There's always more detail to be discovered, new revelations, and established things to debate.
For me, the psuedo-historical/classic swords-and-sorcery style of Warhammer is infinitely more engaging than a lighter, fluffier version. It's like a steak compared to a hamburger, or triple-fermented unfiltered belgian compared to Budweiser. Classic versus mass-market.
We'll see if they pull off the PvP, but when it comes to story, imagery, and graphics, Warhammer is leagues ahead. anyways i stole that as i was saying. ive played the tabletop and warhammer was always somewhat cartoony so...ya they got the right path
Originally posted by gidd its more like a mature cartoony i dont see how the graphics could change your mind though...i mean screens aint it all man Originally posted by Morskittar Dodgy? As a negative? Warcraft is nothing more than Warhammer-lite. Both have the same creation story, the same metaphysics, and similar themes (no absolute good and evil). Warcraft just has an infinitely shallower take on the whole deal.
Warcraft "lore" feels like a comic book or anime. Every few years there's a New Menace to Everything That Must Be Stopped. First, orcs from another world. Then it turns out these orcs were duped by Chaos (or... Chaos-lite, from their warp-lite), so they can be good guys (Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch OLOLOL!!!11), because there's an EVILER EVIL that Must Be Stopped If It's The Last Thing We Do. Oh, and they have Elric/Aenarion/Vader on their side. Who's tragic, by the way. Really. Then, that's finished up and it moves on to Bug People.
It's the same villian-of-the-season format that Yu-gi-oh! follows: building up to the next "OMG BIG REVEAL!!!11" but there's not a lot of substance.
Warhammer, on the other hand, follows the form of a history class. Like a book that combines a hybrid of Moorcock's Chaos with Lovecraft, then sticks that in 16th century pre/early-Reformation Germany. It's convoluted, contradictory, thouroughly fascinating, and it doesn't change (much); just like real-life history. It borrows from original sources and finds depth there. There's always more detail to be discovered, new revelations, and established things to debate.
For me, the psuedo-historical/classic swords-and-sorcery style of Warhammer is infinitely more engaging than a lighter, fluffier version. It's like a steak compared to a hamburger, or triple-fermented unfiltered belgian compared to Budweiser. Classic versus mass-market.
We'll see if they pull off the PvP, but when it comes to story, imagery, and graphics, Warhammer is leagues ahead. anyways i stole that as i was saying. ive played the tabletop and warhammer was always somewhat cartoony so...ya they got the right path
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Cheers.
Oh, I'm sure he knows that.
This Zoriouz is a new breed of troll; a vile being created of bitterness, rage, and denial. Formed the moment a die-hard Warcraft fan realizes their beloved lore and game are merely a shoddy knock-off, these creatures loathe all things Warhammer. Rather than accepting the truth for what it is, these very special trolls lash out, finding Warhammer forums to disrupt with cries of "ololz" and "copy!!!11".
Do not hate this troll, pity it. For his fragile little world, founded on the supposed brilliance of Warcraft and apparently unique nature of the artwork, has been destroyed. The foundations, the very core of his being, have been proven false.
Don't worry though, he won't be back. He'll find succor in endless 40-man raids and the promise of the next batch of "purpz" or "oanrges". He's exercised his rage, in that tiny sentence above and will not return, lest he be forced to see the truth once again.
basicly Team Goa Sucks -_- well they blame the isp or smt ... -_-
Mythic i pray that i can play on us servers lol course ill be playing this game, but not on team crapgoa's 10 years behind the us servers in patching terms
Mythic = pvp fun :DDD
they made daoc which has the most fun (notice no best anywhere just most fun) pvp imo :-)
"They may not be heard, their cries may fall upon deaf ears, but make no mistake, the dead do speak."
I'm sooooo tired of hearing these comparisons.
Warhammer came first.
WAR graphics look very much like the Warhammer TT figures.
If you compare screenshots from each game you will see they look very little alike. WAR's models are properly figured and textured, with lots of detail and are stylized rather than cartoony. Not only that, but the atmosphere, landscape, and background is a completely different world to live in. Again, things are properly figured and textured, you can see the war and destruction everywhere, things aren't always bright and cheerful, and it looks good.
Someone has already linked my comparisons in this thread, so I won't bother doing it again. If anyone still has any doubts still in your head about whether WAR looks like WoW I suggest looking at them, and shutting up until the game comes out. No one wants to hear this crap anymore.
-shadowski-
surly, you must be the son of god!
i kinda think this thread died when the creator made it.
to the guy with the troll thing: its alittle harsh, the games lore was rather good, until they figured out a new way to make money with an expansion, where they totally crapped everything decent in the lore up.
WAR will probaly be better, for PVP lovers, than WoW, but WoW had its 15 minutes of fame..
to the thread creator: graphic isnt everything - **huge sigh**
Im not letting my son watch a "cartoon" that looks like THIS!
I wouldnt let my kid watch a cartoon that looked like THIS!
I love EQ 2 graphics, and I would love to see an MMORPG with massive Realm Vs Realm style PVP using that style of graphics. But honestly, I don't have the money, nor enough cooling fans, to build me a super computer.
Cartoon graphics are easier on the computer than perfectly built Elf faces that visibly sweat after running a mile and a half.
WoW was blocky and cartoony, the colors were bright, the landscapping was cartoony. WAR looks like it'll be borderline cartoony in its character models (some of them) but the landscape (much more important IMO) looks to be on par with EQ 1 and EQ 2 (Both of which beat DAoC hands down, no offense)
BTW, if the dev team's gonna have a human face like the dev that wtfpwnizzled the troll here... sign me up for preorder now.
looks like wow lol
looks like wow lol
I hope that's sarcasm
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looks like wow lol
I hope that's sarcasm
That picture does have some similarities... most pictures don't tho.
*warning*
Do not response to baphamets posts, he is such a 1337 hawtcore gamer that he is always right.
The WAR community doesn't want your type here, go back to vanguard.
But this is the MMO industry, where WoW came before Warhammer, no wonder people think a similar-looking game is a clone of the most successful MMO ever.
And you "Warhammer came first"-people, you seem rather desperate.. first WoW copied Warhammer, and now in the latter parts of this thread, the graphics don't look all that similar anymore..
What's it gonna be?
Personally I prefer the artwork over the miniatures like some others in this thread. Those mark of chaos screenshots look awesome.
arnt you the same guy that said that in the aoc forums as well? didn't those posts also get deleted? don't tell me where i can and cannot post, if you don't like it how about you go somewhere els?
BTW if you couldn't tell i was joking you really need to get a clue, thanks
The game graphics look pretty awesome.
I don't know how someone would graphically render "a realistic orc in real life", but it looks pretty damn close to what I might imagine.
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Because he came to the WAR section and said "im not going to play this game". Shall we all do the same to every other game we don't play? No, why? Because it's pointless, no one cares and it just causes arguements, and that is trolling.
How does anyone expect to see realistic graphics on a game based on goblins, orcs, and whatnot!? It's a game, and it's not a sim.
-iCeh
Because he came to the WAR section and said "im not going to play this game". Shall we all do the same to every other game we don't play? No, why? Because it's pointless, no one cares and it just causes arguements, and that is trolling.
How does anyone expect to see realistic graphics on a game based on goblins, orcs, and whatnot!? It's a game, and it's not a sim.
He stated his opinion knowing the WAR fans would have a spaz and it seemed to work didn't it? If no one cared about what he said this thread wouldn't be ten pages long lol.
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Lend a hand and break the chains of regularity you lean so closely upon
Because he came to the WAR section and said "im not going to play this game". Shall we all do the same to every other game we don't play? No, why? Because it's pointless, no one cares and it just causes arguements, and that is trolling.
How does anyone expect to see realistic graphics on a game based on goblins, orcs, and whatnot!? It's a game, and it's not a sim.
He stated his opinion knowing the WAR fans would have a spaz and it seemed to work didn't it? If no one cared about what he said this thread wouldn't be ten pages long lol.
I think you misunderstood. I said meant that no one cares whether he plays or not, and i did actually point out that it will cause arguments which is what most of the replies are. Also, it wasn't much of an opinion, he said that he isn't going to give them any of his money... like i said, why bother telling us?
If he wants realism, he's not going to find it in a game with Goblins and Orcs is he?
-iCeh
WAR's graphics are what I like to call 'Graphic novel'. Cartoony enough that the game world looks interesting and alive but realistic anough that it can be taken seriously as a dark and gritty world.
"Two things are infinite-the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe"-Albert Einstein
its more like a mature cartoony i dont see how the graphics could change your mind though...i mean screens aint it all man Originally posted by Morskittar
Dodgy? As a negative? Warcraft is nothing more than Warhammer-lite. Both have the same creation story, the same metaphysics, and similar themes (no absolute good and evil). Warcraft just has an infinitely shallower take on the whole deal.
Warcraft "lore" feels like a comic book or anime. Every few years there's a New Menace to Everything That Must Be Stopped. First, orcs from another world. Then it turns out these orcs were duped by Chaos (or... Chaos-lite, from their warp-lite), so they can be good guys (Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch OLOLOL!!!11), because there's an EVILER EVIL that Must Be Stopped If It's The Last Thing We Do. Oh, and they have Elric/Aenarion/Vader on their side. Who's tragic, by the way. Really. Then, that's finished up and it moves on to Bug People.
It's the same villian-of-the-season format that Yu-gi-oh! follows: building up to the next "OMG BIG REVEAL!!!11" but there's not a lot of substance.
Warhammer, on the other hand, follows the form of a history class. Like a book that combines a hybrid of Moorcock's Chaos with Lovecraft, then sticks that in 16th century pre/early-Reformation Germany. It's convoluted, contradictory, thouroughly fascinating, and it doesn't change (much); just like real-life history. It borrows from original sources and finds depth there. There's always more detail to be discovered, new revelations, and established things to debate.
For me, the psuedo-historical/classic swords-and-sorcery style of Warhammer is infinitely more engaging than a lighter, fluffier version. It's like a steak compared to a hamburger, or triple-fermented unfiltered belgian compared to Budweiser. Classic versus mass-market.
We'll see if they pull off the PvP, but when it comes to story, imagery, and graphics, Warhammer is leagues ahead.
anyways i stole that as i was saying. ive played the tabletop and warhammer was always somewhat cartoony so...ya they got the right path
WOOT! Post number 100. I think WAR will be awesome!
Cheers to the wise words written my Mor.
WoW sucks.
Good day.