Reason 1Reason 2Reason 3Reason 4Reason 5Reason 6Reason 7Reason 8And i still played the game... I think it is the pleasure before getting to 60.. You hear about lvl 60: Ooow it is great, reading is cool etc.
But once you get lvl 60, it is only raiding, grinding etc. Thank god you can exlore, that kept me on to play the game.. But that also got old and bored, thats why i quitted.. A good decision
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You think this game is bad because you need to LEARN TO PLAY
WoW took what worked in all the other MMOs and used it. They took the common threads and put them into their quilt. And it works for them.
Of course your going to get bored. What did you expect them to keep up with your leveling so you wouldnt get bored? Since a person can level to 60 in just a few weeks if they power it that means you would have level 5000 by now. Yah they need better endgame but I have yet to find a single MMO out there with good endgame.
Now to my post. Why is WoW a GOOD game? 5 Million players cant be wrong! That is why.
Kai
You can't say because of numbers that makes something good. It doesn't make sense. There are more nongamers then gamers. So the nongamers must be right.
Siehst du mich
Erkennst du mich
Ganz tief in meinem Herz
ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
Ich suche dich
Ich sehne mich
nach dem was ich geliebt hab
doch ich find es nicht
Over 4 billion served.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
look, the US governement asked blizzard to make WoW to mind numb their american citizins.
get over it.
i'm kidding.
You can't say because of numbers that makes something good. It doesn't make sense. There are more nongamers then gamers. So the nongamers must be right.
No you dont get it. Total numbers compared to other games. Obviously WoW is doing something right. If they didnt then they would have alot less players. So they hit the right note. Hence having 5 million players proves they are doing something right.
Take alook at games like EQ2, SWG, AA, etc. Yah for some of the players in those games the game is good but it obviously isnt as good as WoW because WoW has up 50 times the total number of players.
Get it now sparky? You can say that game is good or this game is over there is good but it boils down to numbers. WoW has brought more then the market share of people into it. Far more. that in and of itself proves WoW is a good game. Yah it has problems but they are minimal at best. Show me a game without any problems. I dare you.
Oh no they use repetitive models. Again show me a game that doesnt use repetitive models.
Oh dear the quests are the same quests just different stories. Show me a game that doesnt do this. There are only 8 basic quest or mission types you can do in an MMO.
Kai
WoW is very much like soap operas.
All pretty much the same formula
all watched by millions of people.
And quite unorigonal.
I will like to point out some things.
Excluding anchient myphology. Orcs first appered in Lord of the rings as did goblins. They were then fleshed out in the origonal Dungeons and dragons game.
Then warhammer came out in 1983 and it was then that orcs turned green causing an uproar among traditional RPG'ers.
Then in 1994 Warcraft came out the rest is history.
I agree that WoW took a lot from other games and books but in the end they did make a solid game. Of course i Did play WoW once and didnt like it [ i found the end game at level 60 a fatal turnoff ], but that isant the issue here the issue is that YES wow did copy of warhammer but then again warhammer copied off Lord of the rings and Dungeons and Dragons.
So i guess the moral of this post is it does not matter so much if a game copied another its how its implimented that matters.
WoW took what worked in all the other MMOs and used it. They took the common threads and put them into their quilt. And it works for them.
Of course your going to get bored. What did you expect them to keep up with your leveling so you wouldnt get bored? Since a person can level to 60 in just a few weeks if they power it that means you would have level 5000 by now. Yah they need better endgame but I have yet to find a single MMO out there with good endgame.
Now to my post. Why is WoW a GOOD game? 5 Million players cant be wrong! That is why.
Kai
I agree that they all look the same, but WoW creators claim that they've "created a better mmorpg" BULLSHIT, its mostly the same as every other one. If they want to create a new type of MMORPG why dont they make one where the quests actually do something for you in the game, like one where you cant go on until you do this long quest. Like maybe you have to lead a group of people into battle and 50% have to return or something, i dont know, but they need to make it so people are more involved with the game and the other people/monsters then they are with just the people/monsters.
WoW took what worked in all the other MMOs and used it. They took the common threads and put them into their quilt. And it works for them.
Of course your going to get bored. What did you expect them to keep up with your leveling so you wouldnt get bored? Since a person can level to 60 in just a few weeks if they power it that means you would have level 5000 by now. Yah they need better endgame but I have yet to find a single MMO out there with good endgame.
Now to my post. Why is WoW a GOOD game? 5 Million players cant be wrong! That is why.
Kai
I agree that they all look the same, but WoW creators claim that they've "created a better mmorpg" BULLSHIT, its mostly the same as every other one. If they want to create a new type of MMORPG why dont they make one where the quests actually do something for you in the game, like one where you cant go on until you do this long quest. Like maybe you have to lead a group of people into battle and 50% have to return or something, i dont know, but they need to make it so people are more involved with the game and the other people/monsters then they are with just the people/monsters.
They claim that because of the casual-friendly aspect of the game, which is pretty rare in MMOs. I know you want some revolutionary quest system reminiscent of single-player RPGs, but I don't think you understand how hard that would be to actually implement.
Eve online pretty much fits this then.
reason one :- Everything that shouldnt doesant look the same the starsystems are all different in some way.
Reason two :- True eve has quests or rather missions but nothing like the guy complaines about there are no collect 10 of these and 5 of these quests.
Reason Three :- Eve doesant have this system of skilling up ingame.
Reason four :- Well i can happily say this doesant exist in eve either.
Reason Five :- Well did you know that for example the systems claimed by the Blood raiders [npc faction pirats] its possable to clear them out of there. Also rogue drone infestatiions have gone down now becaus epeople had cleared them out so much they couldnt recover in empire space.
Reason six :- Well to start with the whole idea of a space trading mmorpg is an origonal idea compared to fantasy mmo's also the new content we get reguly contain new ideas.
Reason seven :- There is no instancing in eve.
reason eight :- Eve gets regular content updates nuff said.
You can't say because of numbers that makes something good. It doesn't make sense. There are more nongamers then gamers. So the nongamers must be right.
No you dont get it. Total numbers compared to other games. Obviously WoW is doing something right. If they didnt then they would have alot less players. So they hit the right note. Hence having 5 million players proves they are doing something right.
Take alook at games like EQ2, SWG, AA, etc. Yah for some of the players in those games the game is good but it obviously isnt as good as WoW because WoW has up 50 times the total number of players.
Get it now sparky? You can say that game is good or this game is over there is good but it boils down to numbers. WoW has brought more then the market share of people into it. Far more. that in and of itself proves WoW is a good game. Yah it has problems but they are minimal at best. Show me a game without any problems. I dare you.
Oh no they use repetitive models. Again show me a game that doesnt use repetitive models.
Oh dear the quests are the same quests just different stories. Show me a game that doesnt do this. There are only 8 basic quest or mission types you can do in an MMO.
Kai
No it doesn't JR. I'm sorry if main stream means good to you no matter what. Its funny cause I never said anything like what you're trying to agrue about with the mobs and crap like that. Numbers doesn't mean anything more then popularity. Because yeah those millions of subs aren't just blizzard fans and the game doesn't have the words Diablo, starcraft, or warcraft in it. I'm sorry you obviously can't see that. Then again you must thing Halo is the greatest FPS on the market. I could name quite a few games that doesn't have problems, but you'd just go into a hole and try your best to attack me or the game. Twisted metal the modles are very different. Oh but you said game and not MMO so you're going to say I meant MMO. Engrosing stories? Well warcraft 3. That still doesn't screw up its own lore. Not to meantion there is FF6. But then again I didn't say anything about problems either. You just again assumed that.
So JR. Numbers only make popularity. If you don't beleave me there is a great game that I bet you never heard of called Phantom Dust. Yeah its a great game with little reconition. Does it make it a bad game? NO! The game itself makes it a good game. You can't convice me with numbers that WoW is fun cause thats impossable. I've actually played the game and I don't think its fun. So go join your little scientology cult like I said and leave the actaul people that don't make random assumtions here to disscuss. THough I should speak in your native tonuge of Baahh. I really don't feel like it. You just agrued that numbers don't make people right with my example then you go and say it does with WoW. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Siehst du mich
Erkennst du mich
Ganz tief in meinem Herz
ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
Ich suche dich
Ich sehne mich
nach dem was ich geliebt hab
doch ich find es nicht
Numbers do count when it comes to mmo's. Why? cause its the main goal of most if not all game developers. Face it, it all comes down to who can get the most money out of the gaming industry. An example of this is our once beloved SWG. SWG was tortured to try and look like WoW as much as possible, Why? well to get more subscribers that why! SoE thought that making SWG simpler more people would play their game. However they were sadly mistaken, so then you must ask. If it wasnt the simplisity of wow that made a lot of people buy their game then what was it?
As unoriginal wow may be it still took a lot of hard work and dedication to complete. You hater's are making it sound as if they had been doing nothing at all except copy other peoples ideas and dublicate the same buildings over and over. However this is also done by almost all mmos aswell, so if you want to blame wow for being uncreative you may aswell blame all mmos for that.
Finally people who critise WoW Graphics, yes i have seen better, i used to play EQ2 so i know how some MMO's can look fantastic, however i also know that these fantasic graphics can be a real FPS Killer! Would i want WoW to update their character models and envirronment? Sure, but im always worried that they upgrade the graphics to the point where i have to reduce my settings to try and get the game lag free.
WoW is no where near lag free but it is a lot less laggier then games ive played in the past.
if the level cap is an issue for you then wait for the expansion, grind up your professions, make some money, go raid, go pvping, go questing, go exploring, go do whatever you want, the options are there, use them! You cant expect game developers to always tell you what to do, i mean its a game and its mean to be played.
Numbers means they are doing something right. You can sit there and argue WoW sucks all you want but it definately doesnt suck compared to ALL the other MMOs out there since the thing has the most players out there.
Because yeah those millions of subs aren't just blizzard fans and the game doesn't have the words Diablo, starcraft, or warcraft in it. I'm sorry you obviously can't see that.
Actually I hate Diablo and everything else Blizzard puts out. But I enjoy WoW. Oh and with your reasoning why doesnt SWG have BILLIONS of subs since its got Star Wars on the title. UO doesnt have Millions. Neither does FFXI. All huge names but not major MMOs. I wonder why... Oh yeah because a name will only take a game just so far and your trying to grasp at straws now.
Then again you must thing Halo is the greatest FPS on the market. I could name quite a few games that doesn't have problems, but you'd just go into a hole and try your best to attack me or the game. Twisted metal the modles are very different. Oh but you said game and not MMO so you're going to say I meant MMO. Engrosing stories? Well warcraft 3.
Actually I did mean MMO. But yes other games use repetitive models as well. Half-Life, Command and Conquer, Far-Cry. As for Twisted Metal I never played it. Engrossing stories yes I did say MMO. Now show me an MMO that has more then 8 basic stories. Or is this an attempt to dissuade the arguement because you know you cant show me an MMO that has more then 8 basic quest/mission types?
That still doesn't screw up its own lore. Not to meantion there is FF6. But then again I didn't say anything about problems either. You just again assumed that.
Its own lore? So your saying that one of the reasons WoW is bad is because they mess up their own lore? Just want to be clear here. Because its THEIR lore. They can do whatever they want with it. If it had failed then you might have something to argue about. Enterprise messed up the ST lore and guess what it? It failed. SWG messed up SW lore and its failing. But WoW didnt fail. 5 Million means its a success. More successful then any other western MMO out there.
So JR. Numbers only make popularity. If you don't beleave me there is a great game that I bet you never heard of called Phantom Dust. Yeah its a great game with little reconition. Does it make it a bad game? NO! The game itself makes it a good game.
Phantom Dust on the Xbox? Yeah its cool. As long as you got an Xbox. Its great if you like the whole Pokemon, Card Captor kinda stuff. I dont care for that since the market is already so swamped with those types of shows, games, books etc. But of those types of games it is definately good. Especially in Asia where its a big success and the numbers once again prove a game's success. Try again Stimey.
You can't convice me with numbers that WoW is fun cause thats impossable. I've actually played the game and I don't think its fun.
I dont think Counterstrike is fun but it was a good game for a long time. I was hoping you were smart enough to understand that. Guess not Sport. WoW may not be fun for you but its fun for 5 million others.
So go join your little scientology cult like I said and leave the actaul people that don't make random assumtions here to disscuss.
Tell me about attacking you yet here you are telling me I should join a cult. Hmmm. There is a word I am thinking about. Can you guess it? It starts with Hypo.........
THough I should speak in your native tonuge of Baahh. I really don't feel like it. You just agrued that numbers don't make people right with my example then you go and say it does with WoW. That makes no sense whatsoever.
No what I said does make sense. You just refuse to see it because you dont want to be proven wrong. But hey its ok. This is a forum and people think it really matters if they are wrong or right in a forum. So continue pretending to be stupid so you can act like your not wrong. Its cool there Tiger. I understand.
Kai
Numbers means they are doing something right. You can sit there and argue WoW sucks all you want but it definately doesnt suck compared to ALL the other MMOs out there since the thing has the most players out there.
Because yeah those millions of subs aren't just blizzard fans and the game doesn't have the words Diablo, starcraft, or warcraft in it. I'm sorry you obviously can't see that.
Actually I hate Diablo and everything else Blizzard puts out. But I enjoy WoW. Oh and with your reasoning why doesnt SWG have BILLIONS of subs since its got Star Wars on the title. UO doesnt have Millions. Neither does FFXI. All huge names but not major MMOs. I wonder why... Oh yeah because a name will only take a game just so far and your trying to grasp at straws now.
Then again you must thing Halo is the greatest FPS on the market. I could name quite a few games that doesn't have problems, but you'd just go into a hole and try your best to attack me or the game. Twisted metal the modles are very different. Oh but you said game and not MMO so you're going to say I meant MMO. Engrosing stories? Well warcraft 3.
Actually I did mean MMO. But yes other games use repetitive models as well. Half-Life, Command and Conquer, Far-Cry. As for Twisted Metal I never played it. Engrossing stories yes I did say MMO. Now show me an MMO that has more then 8 basic stories. Or is this an attempt to dissuade the arguement because you know you cant show me an MMO that has more then 8 basic quest/mission types?
That still doesn't screw up its own lore. Not to meantion there is FF6. But then again I didn't say anything about problems either. You just again assumed that.
Its own lore? So your saying that one of the reasons WoW is bad is because they mess up their own lore? Just want to be clear here. Because its THEIR lore. They can do whatever they want with it. If it had failed then you might have something to argue about. Enterprise messed up the ST lore and guess what it? It failed. SWG messed up SW lore and its failing. But WoW didnt fail. 5 Million means its a success. More successful then any other western MMO out there.
So JR. Numbers only make popularity. If you don't beleave me there is a great game that I bet you never heard of called Phantom Dust. Yeah its a great game with little reconition. Does it make it a bad game? NO! The game itself makes it a good game.
Phantom Dust on the Xbox? Yeah its cool. As long as you got an Xbox. Its great if you like the whole Pokemon, Card Captor kinda stuff. I dont care for that since the market is already so swamped with those types of shows, games, books etc. But of those types of games it is definately good. Especially in Asia where its a big success and the numbers once again prove a game's success. Try again Stimey.
You can't convice me with numbers that WoW is fun cause thats impossable. I've actually played the game and I don't think its fun.
I dont think Counterstrike is fun but it was a good game for a long time. I was hoping you were smart enough to understand that. Guess not Sport. WoW may not be fun for you but its fun for 5 million others.
So go join your little scientology cult like I said and leave the actaul people that don't make random assumtions here to disscuss.
Tell me about attacking you yet here you are telling me I should join a cult. Hmmm. There is a word I am thinking about. Can you guess it? It starts with Hypo.........
THough I should speak in your native tonuge of Baahh. I really don't feel like it. You just agrued that numbers don't make people right with my example then you go and say it does with WoW. That makes no sense whatsoever.
No what I said does make sense. You just refuse to see it because you dont want to be proven wrong. But hey its ok. This is a forum and people think it really matters if they are wrong or right in a forum. So continue pretending to be stupid so you can act like your not wrong. Its cool there Tiger. I understand.
Kai
*Bows down to kaibigan34*, Your spot on mate.
Its a damn game all games have there ups and downs same goes to life but if your bitching about it and whining about it doesnt solve any thing its a damn game so get over it! fine a game that u like but let me see here you will come back again and bitch about that game and give more point-less resons why people shouldent play that game!!
Good luck finding a another game
we will miss you in wow
It reminds of the football fandom. Only the football teams are replaced with games. You can have a football fan who loves the Sooners but hates the Longhorns. And he will argue til he is blue in the face about how the Longhorns stink and are horrid yet they won last years championship. Personally I dont like the Longhorns but last year they had a GOOD team. But these other fans will give you every excuse in the book as to why the Longhorns are bad even saying the Longhorns cheated or the Ref was an idiot. They just cant admit that last year the Longhorns had a good team.
I thinik the people that say WoW is bad cant grasp the concept that you can hate something and still think the thing has merits. They think if you hate something then you have to think its bad also.
Kai
Kai
how many asian mmo games are out that have several times as many players?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?