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$WG will never merge servers

kymekyme Member Posts: 411
in Star Wars Galaxies

$WG does not have the intelligence to do so. Housing/Structures merging issues would make them weep.

P.S. I began playing DAOC again, this time on the gareth classic classic server, now that has a considerable population!

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  • UnagiUnagi Member Posts: 99
    Thank you very little for the useless information.

  • kymekyme Member Posts: 411

    Originally posted by Unagi
    Thank you very little for the useless information.
    Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
  • UnagiUnagi Member Posts: 99
    It was an easy shot.  I'm almost ashamed of myself.


  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143

    Originally posted by Unagi
    It was an easy shot.  I'm almost ashamed of myself.




    Please tell me this is not the same Unagi that attended the (Austin get together to give input on the system we now know as the "NGE")....   I just have to think this is someone making a joke of the SOE forum named person.

    note: he did seem less "fanboied" if you will at one time...in his defense-- not so carebear driven.  

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  • pirrgpirrg Member Posts: 1,443
    why would they want to merge servers? Pretty much every galaxy has a healthy playerbase nowadays. It declined during the first months of the NGE but it is up to normal again. Not quite pre-cu numbers but its not bad enough to call for a server merger.

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  • JestorRodoJestorRodo Member UncommonPosts: 2,642

    Originally posted by kyme

    $WG does not have the intelligence to do so. Housing/Structures merging issues would make them weep.

    P.S. I began playing DAOC again, this time on the gareth classic classic server, now that has a considerable population!
       SOE has built a game that is dwidling out of existence and even they can not or I feel will not do anything to change it. It just compounds the level of incomptence that will have all come to know and love as SOE.

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  • UnagiUnagi Member Posts: 99

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by Unagi
    It was an easy shot.  I'm almost ashamed of myself.




    Please tell me this is not the same Unagi that attended the (Austin get together to give input on the system we now know as the "NGE")....   I just have to think this is someone making a joke of the SOE forum named person.

    note: he did seem less "fanboied" if you will at one time...in his defense-- not so carebear driven.  




    Sorry, Isk - it's the real me.


  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    Originally posted by pirrg
    why would they want to merge servers? Pretty much every galaxy has a healthy playerbase nowadays. It declined during the first months of the NGE but it is up to normal again. Not quite pre-cu numbers but its not bad enough to call for a server merger.


    I disagree, many current SWG players are crying out for servers to be merged due to the ghost towns that are now common place (npc cities included). When I played pre-cu I saw players everywhere I went, during the CU my girlfriend noted a drop but there were still plenty playing. After the NGE my Girlfriend informed that the guild, server and game were dead and since everyone had left it no longer felt like an MMORPG.

    I see more calling for a merge than those noting how healthy server populations are now, although I could be totally wrong.

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Originally posted by Agricola1

    Originally posted by pirrg
    why would they want to merge servers? Pretty much every galaxy has a healthy playerbase nowadays. It declined during the first months of the NGE but it is up to normal again. Not quite pre-cu numbers but its not bad enough to call for a server merger.


    I disagree, many current SWG players are crying out for servers to be merged due to the ghost towns that are now common place (npc cities included). When I played pre-cu I saw players everywhere I went, during the CU my girlfriend noted a drop but there were still plenty playing. After the NGE my Girlfriend informed that the guild, server and game were dead and since everyone had left it no longer felt like an MMORPG.

    I see more calling for a merge than those noting how healthy server populations are now, although I could be totally wrong.

    Some servers definitely need a merge .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    TBH, SWG had too many servers from the start.  They should have gone with less, and added more as needed.

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  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    Originally posted by Obraik
    TBH, SWG had too many servers from the start.  They should have gone with less, and added more as needed.
    I agree, though when I first started playing most had good populations pre-cu, just the European ones were a little low. However low population pre-cu = high population NGE, and no server has a high population post NGE. So you'd agree that server merges are needed Obraik?

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    Originally posted by Agricola1

    Originally posted by Obraik TBH, SWG had too many servers from the start.  They should have gone with less, and added more as needed.
    I agree, though when I first started playing most had good populations pre-cu, just the European ones were a little low. However low population pre-cu = high population NGE, and no server has a high population post NGE. So you'd agree that server merges are needed Obraik?

    Server merges were needed before the CU and nothing has changed.

    And they will do it eventually. Everyone will get all their houses packed up and structures re-deeded. They are not going to worry about migrating PA's to the new server. Everyone will have to reform when they get there.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    Originally posted by Agricola1

    Originally posted by Obraik
    TBH, SWG had too many servers from the start.  They should have gone with less, and added more as needed.
    I agree, though when I first started playing most had good populations pre-cu, just the European ones were a little low. However low population pre-cu = high population NGE, and no server has a high population post NGE. So you'd agree that server merges are needed Obraik?
    Condensing them couldn't hurt, but I think the implications outweigh the possible benefits.  After seeing it done with the Japanese servers and the many restrictions put in place on what can and can't be taken and how much, it's something I wouldn't support.  SWG is too complex for mergers :P

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Agricola1

    Originally posted by Obraik
    TBH, SWG had too many servers from the start.  They should have gone with less, and added more as needed.

    I agree, though when I first started playing most had good populations pre-cu, just the European ones were a little low. However low population pre-cu = high population NGE, and no server has a high population post NGE. So you'd agree that server merges are needed Obraik?
    Condensing them couldn't hurt, but I think the implications outweigh the possible benefits.  After seeing it done with the Japanese servers and the many restrictions put in place on what can and can't be taken and how much, it's something I wouldn't support.  SWG is too complex for mergers :P

    A merge would not be done in the traditional sense  of the word . It would be done the same way they handled japanese moves . You probobably would only be able to take your houses , And hard to get items .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    Originally posted by Obraik
    Condensing them couldn't hurt, but I think the implications outweigh the possible benefits.  After seeing it done with the Japanese servers and the many restrictions put in place on what can and can't be taken and how much, it's something I wouldn't support.  SWG is too complex for mergers :P

    I didn't hear about that, what restrictions were there? That also could havce something to do with EA since they ran SWG in Japan but I doubt it would be any different for us.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    Originally posted by Fadeus


    Originally posted by Obraik
    Condensing them couldn't hurt, but I think the implications outweigh the possible benefits.  After seeing it done with the Japanese servers and the many restrictions put in place on what can and can't be taken and how much, it's something I wouldn't support.  SWG is too complex for mergers :P

    I didn't hear about that, what restrictions were there? That also could havce something to do with EA since they ran SWG in Japan but I doubt it would be any different for us.

    Basically, everyone just recieved a free server transfer.  Pretty much the same restrictions applied.

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  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by ObraikCondensing them couldn't hurt, but I think the implications outweigh the possible benefits.  After seeing it done with the Japanese servers and the many restrictions put in place on what can and can't be taken and how much, it's something I wouldn't support.  SWG is too complex for mergers :P
    I didn't hear about that, what restrictions were there? That also could havce something to do with EA since they ran SWG in Japan but I doubt it would be any different for us.
    Basically, everyone just recieved a free server transfer.  Pretty much the same restrictions applied.

    That was weak of them...

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Well I don't believe they'll merge servers anyway. In my opinion they'll put it on the PS3 when it's released and turn off the servers early next year when it's time to renew the license for SWG with LA. To merge the servers would be an admission that the population is low, and they only need about 5 servers in my opinion. So it would give people an idea of how many active players SWG has, and we all know how hard they like to hide those numbers from the public.

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    Originally posted by Agricola1
    Well I don't believe they'll merge servers anyway. In my opinion they'll put it on the PS3 when it's released and turn off the servers early next year when it's time to renew the license for SWG with LA. To merge the servers would be an admission that the population is low, and they only need about 5 servers in my opinion. So it would give people an idea of how many active players SWG has, and we all know how hard they like to hide those numbers from the public.
    Ah, the license rumour is making a return for next year eh? :P

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  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Agricola1
    Well I don't believe they'll merge servers anyway. In my opinion they'll put it on the PS3 when it's released and turn off the servers early next year when it's time to renew the license for SWG with LA. To merge the servers would be an admission that the population is low, and they only need about 5 servers in my opinion. So it would give people an idea of how many active players SWG has, and we all know how hard they like to hide those numbers from the public.
    Ah, the license rumour is making a return for next year eh? :P

    Damn right! Gotta stay ahead of the game in this rumour mongering business you know? Besides the rumour mongering and **** stirring is alot more fun than talking about the "new features" (quotation marks define a sarcastic tone since they're all old features being recyled, a bit like Brittney Spears).

    Soon they won't have many old features left to recycle!

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • ReachwindReachwind Member Posts: 275

    Originally posted by ObraikTBH, SWG had too many servers from the start. They should have gone with less, and added more as needed.

    That's exactly what they DID do. When the game first launched all of the original servers were full so they opened more as needed until we had the servers you all know and love. The problem is that they kept fucking up the game rather than doing balance passes and bug fixes.

    Publish 9 and the hologrind killed the populations on a lot of the servers for you folks that started late. During the summer and fall of 2003 nearly all of the servers had huge populations.

    Former SWG beta tester and player

  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Agricola1 Well I don't believe they'll merge servers anyway. In my opinion they'll put it on the PS3 when it's released and turn off the servers early next year when it's time to renew the license for SWG with LA. To merge the servers would be an admission that the population is low, and they only need about 5 servers in my opinion. So it would give people an idea of how many active players SWG has, and we all know how hard they like to hide those numbers from the public.
    Ah, the license rumour is making a return for next year eh? :P

    it does every year. LEC to the rescue.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489

    Originally posted by Fadeus


    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by Fadeus

    Originally posted by ObraikCondensing them couldn't hurt, but I think the implications outweigh the possible benefits.  After seeing it done with the Japanese servers and the many restrictions put in place on what can and can't be taken and how much, it's something I wouldn't support.  SWG is too complex for mergers :P

    I didn't hear about that, what restrictions were there? That also could havce something to do with EA since they ran SWG in Japan but I doubt it would be any different for us.
    Basically, everyone just recieved a free server transfer.  Pretty much the same restrictions applied.

    That was weak of them...

    VERY weak. Many of those who were willing to transfer had issues, lost items or player data, and quit. It was a pretty sad.

    IMO, they won't do merges like that. It's way too complicated that way, and would take weeks to get done. I would expect (like someone above stated) they will pack-up ALL structure for one publish, giving all non-houses &PA's a 0 lot value, merge databases based on Server Pops (Bria & the Lowest Server for example), and then give everyone 30 days to unpack. At that point they would perge all packed structures from Datapads to lessen the Database load.

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    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    Originally posted by Reachwind

    Originally posted by ObraikTBH, SWG had too many servers from the start. They should have gone with less, and added more as needed.
    That's exactly what they DID do. When the game first launched all of the original servers were full so they opened more as needed until we had the servers you all know and love. The problem is that they kept fucking up the game rather than doing balance passes and bug fixes.
    Publish 9 and the hologrind killed the populations on a lot of the servers for you folks that started late. During the summer and fall of 2003 nearly all of the servers had huge populations.
    Uh, as far as I'm aware the only new servers to be introduced were the Euro and Japanese servers, the rest were there from the start?

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  • Harry-SackHarry-Sack Member Posts: 135

    Originally posted by pirrg
    why would they want to merge servers? Pretty much every galaxy has a healthy playerbase nowadays. It declined during the first months of the NGE but it is up to normal again. Not quite pre-cu numbers but its not bad enough to call for a server merger.

    Here here!  As a matter of fact we need more SWG servers!  They are absolutely overflowing with satisfied gamers!  SWG is thriving like never before, it is the top MMO out there!  Woohoo!


    John Smedley beat up my grandmother.

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