The poster before (quoted at the bottom of this post) you has it quite accurately explained I suppose. The issue is your definition of religion, compared to religious leader... Right now, anything the pope says, to an orthodox Catholic, is as valid as gospel... This has in history, and still now, given men in such positions too much power, as their views basically ARE the religion. We have to ask where we draw the line for what is manipulating a religion, rather than being the leader of it...
You may or may not notice but like I said in the previous post... The Bible or Christianity gives no single MAN authority to be God's mouth piece or link to his kingdom... The bible says... revelation 22: 18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
The Pope cant just say what he wants to be gospel and what shouldn't be gospel... It's clearly stated... That the bible alone is enough... The bible also says study upon the word... be rooted and brought up in the word... other stuff... meaning.. study it for your self... It also talks about people who use the bible for their own purposes.. Anyways... THE POPE (WHICH IS A MAN/human being/homosapien/male/person/mortal!) Declared that he and his allies declare war on the cresent moon.... Not the Bible or Christianity (religion, spirituality, philosify, belief, faith)
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Originally posted by baff Are you trying to tell me Bhuddist countries like India have never been in any wars, or have had comaparatively few? Who are you trying to kid?
Ghengis Khan was a Bhuddist.
Ok, did you just call India a Buddhist country? Quit sticking your crayons up your nose, they're obviously having an adverse effect on your brain. It's called Hinduism. Slight difference there. Go tell an Indian person that their Ganesh shrine "is a cool statue of Buddha" and you'll get hit in the face.
And Ghengis wasn't a Buddhist. The Mongols were a shamanic society who worshipped ancestor and nature spirits and relied on medicine men to cure their ailments.
According to Buddhism, ignorance is the root of all evil. Prepare for hell dumbass.
Originally posted by methane47 Originally posted by Khuzarrz Wrong I'm afraid. The Crusades really started with the Pope, Cardinals, and Arch-Bishops telling all of the Lords and Kings and such-like that the best way to speed up their time in purgatory (the latest idea cooked up by the catholic church to aid in their control over the populace) was to devote some of their life to the most important quest of all time - retaking the holy land (and donating all proceeds to the Catholic church, surprisingly enough Though the Knights Templar were WAY too intelligent for that... So the Pope had a word... And then... Ya know...).. Wrong again... Crusades were not started by the Pope persay... The king of Byzantine went to the pope and pleaded with him to come defend his land because the Muslim armies were taking it over... It originally had NOTHING to do with religion... The King of Byzantine went to the Pope because the only thing they had in common was their religion.... both believed in the judaic form... So the pope made a choice to turn it into a holy war.. The Pope had many supporters... If you didn't Support HIS war... YOu became the immdiate enemy of Papacy and all his allies.... The Crusades were not one in whcih soldies and kings and princes were like... "..You know what? We are going to go kill muslims in the name of Big J.C... " ... They pretty much had no choice... One man abused his power and influence to start a war... Dont blame that on Christianity... How is Buddhism more peacefull when they came up with a full form of martial arts ... KEY WORD MARTIAL!!! if you dont know what martial arts means look it up... I say you stop judging THE WHOLE religion of Christianity because of a war that was started by a MAN! not God... Because I do not judge Buddhism or Islam or anyother religion for what a minority of their people Do. Monks are given some sort of control over temples in Buddhism... Christianity Gives no single man power to discern it's word... The word is OUT there for you to read and understand yourself... Jesus NEVER Said... "... Verily verily I say onto you, let my mouth piece in the world Be..umm... an italian man who likes pasta...." Imagination 3:19.
The only Buddhist temple that practice material arts is Shaolin. That's the only one in the whole world. And there are thousands thousands temples out there just like Christan churchs. Also the word "material arts" is just an English translation. basicly it's just something for the monks to have a strong/healthy physical body. The monks won't even hurt a fly for that matter.
India is not a Buddhist country though it was the origin for it.
Hinduism is the #1 religion in India. Then Islam. Then Buddhism. Buddhists is only a small % of India population. On the other hand, after Buddhism spreaded to east Asia, it became the most popular religion there. As Buddhism let the believers worship any other religions as they wish at the same time worship budda, so East Asia really have mixed religions where people believe in multiple religions at the same time.
The only Buddhist temple that practice material arts is Shaolin. That's the only one in the whole world. And there are thousands thousands temples out there just like Christan churchs. Also the word "material arts" is just an English translation. basicly it's just something for the monks to have a strong/healthy physical body. The monks won't even hurt a fly for that matter.
Oh reallly Well that's interesting... Because Catholicism is the only church that had the so called "Crusade"...
And I'm sure the monks have killed tonnes of people in my family... for everytime the stomp their foot on the ground Especially in Shaolin... They probably kill an ant... Which could be my monkey's uncle... I hope now you see what christians go through... People nit pick on the smallest things about christianity ALLl the time... "You guys had the crusades... you hypocritzz" or "You guys lie.. you hypocritz" or "you guys molest little boys... you hypocritz"... Like what the heck...
Before you start... I already know that Buddhists aren't hypocrits for accidentally killing an ant....
I'm just apalled that after an atheist posted something against buddhism... the first defense was that atleast buddhists didn't have the crusades... Like how is attacking someone else... a defense against anything?
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Originally posted by Razorback I have been thinking about this for some time and a program I watched recently confirmed my opinion that of all the religions, Buddhism presents the greatest threat to modern society. (this is 10% tounge in cheek, but somewhat serious too) So HOW THE #@$% you ask, does the peaceful and contemplative religion of Buddhism present a threat to anything ?? Well when I was in Thailand I watched the monks come down from their Wats (temples) in the mornings to recieve thier food from the people. Basically around sunrise they all come to town and people line the streets and as they walk past the people put food in their little baskets and thats what they have to eat that day. Great for the monks coz it means they can spend the day busily emptying thier minds of all thoughts right ? Yeah right..... but!! What if everyone wanted to be a Buddhist ? What if all the worlds Pilots and Surgeons suddenly said tomorrow. "We are pretty sick of this whole consumer society trip man, we are going to go sit on a hill and think happy thoughts for the next 8 years" Buddhism represents a genuine threat to modern society because it is completely devoid of any notion of contribution or work ethic. Your whole purpose as a Buddhist is to personally reach "nirvana" (not the band). To reach a state of inner peace and tranquility, through meditation and letting go of wants. Buddhism only works because of the grace of normal people, allowing these lazy good for nothings to sit around and look wise. DOWN WITH BUDDHISM!!! Stop it before it ruins us ALL!!
this is where you lost me i pay 40% tax yes thats right 40% and thats just on my wage never mind council tax or road tax or tax on heating, lights, phone, house maintainance i pay it my savings on my water bill (i think) petrol you get the idea I'm sure
my point being I am more than just a tax payer or a possible sale my contribution to society or work ethic has no baring on the value of other work i do or choices i make.
i use public transport but own a car I'v made a choice never to fly on a plane (at least outside of work) i give large amounts to charity were i can and help out in local projests I'v never broke that law and will never willfully do so
if i had a choice i would never work yep NEVER i dont support my goverment last year i paid huge amounts in tax allmost all of it went to things i dont agree with if the option were mine I really would subsistance farm but i have kids 2 so i have to make sure they get an education so right now its not a option
Ill teach my boys 2 things be happy and stay happy after all no one says on there death bed "i wish i worked more"
Originally posted by pg0987 so if a monk wanted to play MMO's would all the Thai people pay there subscription fee?
Just do a little research about the basic principle of being a Buddhist monk, so you won't ask such silly questions next time. a little hint...it's against rule for a monk to act like ordinary men in such matter.
Originally posted by methane47 Oh reallly Well that's interesting... Because Catholicism is the only church that had the so called "Crusade"...And I'm sure the monks have killed tonnes of people in my family... for everytime the stomp their foot on the ground Especially in Shaolin... They probably kill an ant... Which could be my monkey's uncle... I hope now you see what christians go through... People nit pick on the smallest things about christianity ALLl the time... "You guys had the crusades... you hypocritzz" or "You guys lie.. you hypocritz" or "you guys molest little boys... you hypocritz"... Like what the heck... Before you start... I already know that Buddhists aren't hypocrits for accidentally killing an ant.... I'm just apalled that after an atheist posted something against buddhism... the first defense was that atleast buddhists didn't have the crusades... Like how is attacking someone else... a defense against anything?
They wouldn't kill a bug on purpose. So never mind starting a war.
As I already stated, christan claim all other religions are fake. Thus it is forbidden for any believers to have any other religions. Which is pretty ignorant in my opinion. Buddhism and most Asian religions don't care if you believe in more than just their gods.
Not all people who claim to be Buddhists are saints. Japan has a long tradition of cantankerous warrior monks stirring up trouble and generally fighting each other. This is not to say all Buddhists are into fighting, but it would be folly to throw all Buddhists into a morally enlightened category.
If we're really keeping score, Pope John Paul II was a huge political force in helping to topple Communism in Eastern Europe, seen by many as a great liberator of his homeland, Poland. In contrast, the Dalai Lama has yet to free Tibet from the communist yoke of China, despite international recognition and hordes of hippie bumper stickers. Popes=1, Dalai Lamas=0.
Joking aside, I will say something terribly controversial that is sure to get me flammed, but I usually do that. I don't like Buddhism from a spiritual or philosophical perspective. It teaches the abandonment of ego and self, severing attachment to the material world, and a general blunting of extremes. I find all of these things disgusting and spiritually repugnant. I cannot imagine living in a vacuum in which I shun both pleasure and pain. It all seems rather vile and unnatural to me. I'm not about to go about killing Buddhists and I don't hate them by any means, but I find their spirituallity anethema.
The thing that truly disturbs me is the perception that Eastern faiths and philosphy somehow have more substance than western ones. Christianity does have its own ascetics, and even now there are old men living in caves in Greece who are almost never seen and probably haven't spoken to anyone but another monk for most of their lives.
Personally, I advocate avoiding living in caves or monastaries. There's no bowling there.
Buddists are very touchy. So defensive. Like all other religions, there followers strive to be heard, to explain there religion in a light they prefer rather the one they hear it spoken in, if its being describe in a way they see as negative. How ironic when I hear word that buddism is better or worse then other religions when there is this common trait.
Originally posted by pg0987 so if a monk wanted to play MMO's would all the Thai people pay there subscription fee?
Just do a little research about the basic principle of being a Buddhist monk, so you won't ask such silly questions next time. a little hint...it's against rule for a monk to act like ordinary men in such matter.
You people really lack a sense of sarcasm. It's quite sad.
If we're really keeping score, Pope John Paul II was a huge political force in helping to topple Communism in Eastern Europe, seen by many as a great liberator of his homeland, Poland. In contrast, the Dalai Lama has yet to free Tibet from the communist yoke of China, despite international recognition and hordes of hippie bumper stickers. Popes=1, Dalai Lamas=0.
Perhaps you should get over the cold-war and stop seeing communism as a 'plague' or whatever... Perhaps the Dalai Lama has no quarrel with Communism, and thus no reason to topple it in Tibet? Jeez... Fools...
Originally posted by Theodoryk Originally posted by ob1sr Originally posted by Theodoryk The moral of the story is this; burn the churches, burn the temples, burn the synagogues and the mosques, down with religion! infact, Muslim "priests" as you want to call them, go out to work, study the Qur'an, take care of society, and buy their own food. as i told you before, don't talk about anything you know nothing about. The real question here is, who gives a fuck?
Islam is the second biggest religion in the world with 1.3 billion people....their are a lot of people that "give a fuck"
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Originally posted by reavo Shinto is a religion of Japanese origin. Buddhism is from India. Buddhism is the study of guiding the spirit towards ceasing reincarnation ("nirvana") so that the spirit can stop suffering. Shinto is more the worship of elements.
In my understanding, Shinto is a form of Bhuddism. Shinto is not a centralised religion, but rather the worship of local shrines. These may be elemental spirits but can also be any others. Ancestor shrines for example. As in Christianity, these smaller local religious beliefs have been assimilated into the global pantheon that is Bhuddism as it has grown. My favourite Shinto shrine, is a statue of Godzilla outside the studios in which many of the films were made. People hang presents onto it.
Shinto is a Japanese form of life such as Chivalry was for the Europeans. The samarai followed it as a code of honor...but the samarai were no better than the lords and knights of Europe, they killed, raped, and went on magical quests to kill monsters.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Islam is the second biggest religion in the world with 1.3 billion people....their are a lot of people that "give a fuck"
Those that 'give a fuck' only 'give a fuck' because they're too tight-arsed and up themselves to take a joke or any criticism pointed at them. I didn't see any Christians or any Jews up in arms about the 'churches' and 'synagogues' comments. Why do muslims have to take everything so personally? It was clear that he had no intention of actually carrying out those actions. It's like the Danish cartoon. There's THOUSANDS of pisstakes of Jesus, God, Buddha all over the place... A LOT more brutal than depicting them wearing Camos and explosives... Yet they were weilding placards proclaiming 'death to all who insult islam' and worse, as well as demanding the resignation of the Danish Prime-minister and organising riots and rebellion. A LOT of muslims need to learn better temperment...
Originally posted by Khuzarrz Originally posted by cornoffcob Islam is the second biggest religion in the world with 1.3 billion people....their are a lot of people that "give a fuck" Those that 'give a fuck' only 'give a fuck' because they're too tight-arsed and up themselves to take a joke or any criticism pointed at them. I didn't see any Christians or any Jews up in arms about the 'churches' and 'synagogues' comments. Why do muslims have to take everything so personally? It was clear that he had no intention of actually carrying out those actions. It's like the Danish cartoon. There's THOUSANDS of pisstakes of Jesus, God, Buddha all over the place... A LOT more brutal than depicting them wearing Camos and explosives... Yet they were weilding placards proclaiming 'death to all who insult islam' and worse, as well as demanding the resignation of the Danish Prime-minister and organising riots and rebellion. A LOT of muslims need to learn better temperment...
If you are implying that I'm muslim you are dead wrong. There are many people on here that are up in arms about their religion. I think its unfair that while there are those on here arguing for and against christianity and buddhism that the one muslim that posted something is shunned away because no one gives a fuck. I do agree that lots of muslims need to learn better temperment, but there are as many christians that need to also.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
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You may or may not notice but like I said in the previous post... The Bible or Christianity gives no single MAN authority to be God's mouth piece or link to his kingdom... The bible says... revelation 22: 18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
The Pope cant just say what he wants to be gospel and what shouldn't be gospel... It's clearly stated... That the bible alone is enough... The bible also says study upon the word... be rooted and brought up in the word... other stuff... meaning.. study it for your self... It also talks about people who use the bible for their own purposes.. Anyways... THE POPE (WHICH IS A MAN/human being/homosapien/male/person/mortal!) Declared that he and his allies declare war on the cresent moon.... Not the Bible or Christianity (religion, spirituality, philosify, belief, faith)
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Ok, did you just call India a Buddhist country? Quit sticking your crayons up your nose, they're obviously having an adverse effect on your brain. It's called Hinduism. Slight difference there. Go tell an Indian person that their Ganesh shrine "is a cool statue of Buddha" and you'll get hit in the face.
And Ghengis wasn't a Buddhist. The Mongols were a shamanic society who worshipped ancestor and nature spirits and relied on medicine men to cure their ailments.
According to Buddhism, ignorance is the root of all evil. Prepare for hell dumbass.
The only Buddhist temple that practice material arts is Shaolin. That's the only one in the whole world. And there are thousands thousands temples out there just like Christan churchs. Also the word "material arts" is just an English translation. basicly it's just something for the monks to have a strong/healthy physical body. The monks won't even hurt a fly for that matter.
India is not a Buddhist country though it was the origin for it.
Hinduism is the #1 religion in India. Then Islam. Then Buddhism. Buddhists is only a small % of India population. On the other hand, after Buddhism spreaded to east Asia, it became the most popular religion there. As Buddhism let the believers worship any other religions as they wish at the same time worship budda, so East Asia really have mixed religions where people believe in multiple religions at the same time.
And I'm sure the monks have killed tonnes of people in my family... for everytime the stomp their foot on the ground Especially in Shaolin... They probably kill an ant... Which could be my monkey's uncle... I hope now you see what christians go through... People nit pick on the smallest things about christianity ALLl the time... "You guys had the crusades... you hypocritzz" or "You guys lie.. you hypocritz" or "you guys molest little boys... you hypocritz"... Like what the heck...
Before you start... I already know that Buddhists aren't hypocrits for accidentally killing an ant....
I'm just apalled that after an atheist posted something against buddhism... the first defense was that atleast buddhists didn't have the crusades... Like how is attacking someone else... a defense against anything?
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
They Dont support games and computers... Because Developers don't like Bugs...
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<sheepish laugh> *he he he he* (^_^)
What's your Wu Name?
Donovan --> Wu Name = Violent Knight
Methane47 --> Wu Name = Thunderous Leader
"Some people call me the walking plank, 'cuz any where you go... Death is right behind you.."
<i>ME<i>
this is where you lost me i pay 40% tax yes thats right 40% and thats just on my wage never mind council tax or road tax or tax on heating, lights, phone, house maintainance i pay it my savings on my water bill (i think) petrol you get the idea I'm sure
my point being I am more than just a tax payer or a possible sale my contribution to society or work ethic has no baring on the value of other work i do or choices i make.
i use public transport but own a car I'v made a choice never to fly on a plane (at least outside of work) i give large amounts to charity were i can and help out in local projests I'v never broke that law and will never willfully do so
if i had a choice i would never work yep NEVER i dont support my goverment last year i paid huge amounts in tax allmost all of it went to things i dont agree with if the option were mine I really would subsistance farm but i have kids 2 so i have to make sure they get an education so right now its not a option
Ill teach my boys 2 things be happy and stay happy after all no one says on there death bed "i wish i worked more"
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
Just do a little research about the basic principle of being a Buddhist monk, so you won't ask such silly questions next time. a little hint...it's against rule for a monk to act like ordinary men in such matter.
They wouldn't kill a bug on purpose. So never mind starting a war.
As I already stated, christan claim all other religions are fake. Thus it is forbidden for any believers to have any other religions. Which is pretty ignorant in my opinion. Buddhism and most Asian religions don't care if you believe in more than just their gods.
If we're really keeping score, Pope John Paul II was a huge political force in helping to topple Communism in Eastern Europe, seen by many as a great liberator of his homeland, Poland. In contrast, the Dalai Lama has yet to free Tibet from the communist yoke of China, despite international recognition and hordes of hippie bumper stickers. Popes=1, Dalai Lamas=0.
Joking aside, I will say something terribly controversial that is sure to get me flammed, but I usually do that. I don't like Buddhism from a spiritual or philosophical perspective. It teaches the abandonment of ego and self, severing attachment to the material world, and a general blunting of extremes. I find all of these things disgusting and spiritually repugnant. I cannot imagine living in a vacuum in which I shun both pleasure and pain. It all seems rather vile and unnatural to me. I'm not about to go about killing Buddhists and I don't hate them by any means, but I find their spirituallity anethema.
The thing that truly disturbs me is the perception that Eastern faiths and philosphy somehow have more substance than western ones. Christianity does have its own ascetics, and even now there are old men living in caves in Greece who are almost never seen and probably haven't spoken to anyone but another monk for most of their lives.
Personally, I advocate avoiding living in caves or monastaries. There's no bowling there.
Just do a little research about the basic principle of being a Buddhist monk, so you won't ask such silly questions next time. a little hint...it's against rule for a monk to act like ordinary men in such matter.
You people really lack a sense of sarcasm. It's quite sad.
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Islam is the second biggest religion in the world with 1.3 billion people....their are a lot of people that "give a fuck"
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Originally posted by baff
Originally posted by reavo
Shinto is a religion of Japanese origin. Buddhism is from India. Buddhism is the study of guiding the spirit towards ceasing reincarnation ("nirvana") so that the spirit can stop suffering. Shinto is more the worship of elements.
In my understanding, Shinto is a form of Bhuddism.
Shinto is not a centralised religion, but rather the worship of local shrines. These may be elemental spirits but can also be any others. Ancestor shrines for example.
As in Christianity, these smaller local religious beliefs have been assimilated into the global pantheon that is Bhuddism as it has grown.
My favourite Shinto shrine, is a statue of Godzilla outside the studios in which many of the films were made. People hang presents onto it.
Shinto is a Japanese form of life such as Chivalry was for the Europeans. The samarai followed it as a code of honor...but the samarai were no better than the lords and knights of Europe, they killed, raped, and went on magical quests to kill monsters.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Those that 'give a fuck' only 'give a fuck' because they're too tight-arsed and up themselves to take a joke or any criticism pointed at them. I didn't see any Christians or any Jews up in arms about the 'churches' and 'synagogues' comments. Why do muslims have to take everything so personally? It was clear that he had no intention of actually carrying out those actions. It's like the Danish cartoon. There's THOUSANDS of pisstakes of Jesus, God, Buddha all over the place... A LOT more brutal than depicting them wearing Camos and explosives... Yet they were weilding placards proclaiming 'death to all who insult islam' and worse, as well as demanding the resignation of the Danish Prime-minister and organising riots and rebellion. A LOT of muslims need to learn better temperment...
If you are implying that I'm muslim you are dead wrong. There are many people on here that are up in arms about their religion. I think its unfair that while there are those on here arguing for and against christianity and buddhism that the one muslim that posted something is shunned away because no one gives a fuck. I do agree that lots of muslims need to learn better temperment, but there are as many christians that need to also.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people