Everybody has still been missing the point: So far it's been a dichotomy with the Anti-Semites on one side and the Zionists on the other; doesn't anybody see the irony in punishing somebody for questioning a historical event?
Preaching hate towards others and denying a historical event are disjoint: Questioning and providing evidence to refute the claims of a historical event do not imply that the individual wishes to advocate hate towards the victims of the supposed event.
Actually, somebody that denies the holocaust can be refuted using the same irrefutable evidence that has led the rest of us to believe that the holocaust really existed: If there is such overwhelming evidence, then there is no need for incarcertation and punishment, as the individual clearly suffers from a mental deficiency.
A lot of people think that all of the Jews are supporting Israel's actions, although a great deal of them just wish for peace: I remember having an economics teacher that was of Israeli descent; he actually decried Israel's aggression and stated that the only solution to Palestine's acts of terrorism would be a boost to their economy which would deprive the terrorist organizations of recruits by making the people less reliant on them.
Look at what Israel has done: At first I applauded them for defending themselves and thwarting the terrorist organization Hezbollah, but now that I've seen how the infrastructure has changed: They further fortified the position of the political Hezbollah organization, making them familiar to the hundreds of thousands that lost their homes.
Did you see how Palestine voted in Hamas democratically? That should give you a good idea about the economic condition of the people: Regardless of the intentions of a political body, they are willing to support it if it provides for them (The money trickling in from Syria and Iran).
Another issue I'd like to put forth:
Just because a person shares the same phenotype with a subset of individuals does not mean that you can pigeonhole the individual into a generalization: Yes, it is true that most African Americans score lower on standardized tests, but that does not mean that a person sharing the same phenotype has the same deficiency; I've had professors with PhD's in mathematics that came from Africa (with the African phenotype), refuting the claim that people of African descent are necessarily intellectually inferior.
Look at Condoleezza Rice: She is African American and shows more intellectual prowess than our president.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Originally posted by Zerogenum Originally posted by BlazinBlades Thank you for writing all that, I don’t really need to say anything now LMAO.
Once again you are left with only denying the facts. Kthnxbye
Deny what facts, I have yet to see any facts from you, other posters have asked you for facts, they have provided you facts abut you still have not. Your facts need to be backed up with evidence and proof, other posters have backed up their facts with evidence with proof, you have not, all you have done is thrown out a theory that is all. You have not given one piece of evidence that proves any of your facts, all you have given is theories with little pieces of stuff that you have cut out and left the other 99 percent of the information. You have picked little things out and left the rest. Take for example you Jews Declare war in 1933 on Germany, did you look into it, if you had you would have found out that it was economical, I consider economical and the mass murder of groups of people two different things, as any other sane person would. You don’t have any facts, you don’t have any proof, you don’t have anything at all. The only thing that you have proven is that you are racists filled with hate and that is all.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Originally posted by BlazinBlades Originally posted by Zerogenum Originally posted by BlazinBlades Thank you for writing all that, I don’t really need to say anything now LMAO.
Once again you are left with only denying the facts. Kthnxbye
Deny what facts, I have yet to see any facts from you, other posters have asked you for facts, they have provided you facts abut you still have not. Your facts need to be backed up with evidence and proof, other posters have backed up their facts with evidence with proof, you have not, all you have done is thrown out a theory that is all. You have not given one piece of evidence that proves any of your facts, all you have given is theories with little pieces of stuff that you have cut out and left the other 99 percent of the information. You have picked little things out and left the rest. Take for example you Jews Declare war in 1933 on Germany, did you look into it, if you had you would have found out that it was economical, I consider economical and the mass murder of groups of people two different things, as any other sane person would. You don’t have any facts, you don’t have any proof, you don’t have anything at all. The only thing that you have proven is that you are racists filled with hate and that is all.
Do you need to include nazi racist hate in every post? Let me show you some hate that you can deal with.
November 6, 1944, Cairo. Lord Moyne, British Resident Minister in the Middle East, and his driver were assassinated outside the minister's Cairo residence. Two murderers were involved. One was injured, and both were immediately arrested.
January 10, 1945, Cairo. The British supreme military court today put on trial Eliahu Bet-Tsours from Tel Aviv and Eliahu Hakim of Haifa, both admitted members of the Jewish terrorist Stern gang.
January 18, 1945, Cairo. The British supreme military court sentenced the murderers of Lord Moyne to death. Both killers admitted their act and also admitted their membership in the Stem gang which they said ordered the killings as a warning to the British not to interfere with future Jewish immigration to Jerusalem.
March 22, 1945, Cairo. The two convicted Jewish Stern gang terrorists who murdered Lord Moyne and his driver were hanged today in the Cairo prison British authorities announced.
January 12, 1946, Palestine. A train was derailed by Jewish terrorists at Hadera near Haifa by a bomb and robbed of £35,000 in cash. Two British police officials were injured
January 18, 1946, Haifa. Over 900 illegal Jewish immigrants were captured off Haifa by the British Royal Navy
January 19, 1946, Jerusalem. .Jewish terrorists destroyed a power station and a portion of the Central Jerusalem prison by explosives. Two persons were killed by the police
January 20, 1946, Palestine. Jewish terrorists launched an attack against the British-controlled Givat Olga Coast Guard Station located between Tel Aviv and Haifa. Ten persons were injured and one was killed. Captured papers indicated that the purpose of this raid was to take revenge on the British for their seizure of the refugee ship on January 18. British military authorities in Jerusalem questioned 3,000 Jews and held 148 in custody.
April 25, 1946, Palestine. Jewish terrorists attacked a British military installation near Tel Aviv. This group, which contained a number of young girls, had as its goal the capture of British weapons. British authorities rounded up 1,200 suspects.
June 29, 1946, Palestine. British military units and police raided Jewish settlements throughout Palestine searching for the leaders of Haganah, a leading Jewish terrorist agency The Jewish Agency for Palestine was occupied and four top official arrested. At the end of June, 1946 2,000 were arrested and four Jews and one British soldier were killed.
July 1, 1946, Palestine. British officials announced the discovery of a large arms dump hidden underground at Meshek Yagur. 2,659 men and 59 women were detained for the three day operation in which 27 settlements were searched. Four were killed and 80 were injured.
July 22, 1946, Jerusalem. The west wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem which housed British Military Headquarters and other governmental offices was destroyed at 12:57 PM by explosives planted in the cellar by members of the Irgun terrorist gang. By the 26 of July, the casualties were 76 persons killed, 46 injured and 29 still missing in the rubble. The dead included many British, Arabs and Jews.
July 23, l946 Jerusalem. The Irgun Zvai Leumi terrorist group takes responsibility for the King David bombing but blames the British, calling them “tyrants.”
July 24, 1946, London. The British government released a White Paper that accuses the Haganah, Irgun and Stern gangs of “a planned movement of sabotage and violence” under the direction of the Jewish Agency and asserts that the June 29 arrest of Zionist leaders was the cause of the bombing.
July 28, 1946, Jerusalem. The British Palestine Commander, Lt. General Sir Evelyn Barker, banned fraternization by British troops with Palestine Jews whom he stated “cannot be absolved of responsibility for terroristic acts.” The order states that this will punish “the race … by striking at their pockets and showing our contempt for them”
July 29, 1946, Tel Aviv. Police in Tel Aviv raided a workshop making bombs.
July 31, 1946, Tel Aviv. A large cache of weapons, extensive counterfeiting equipment and $1,000,000 in counterfeit Government bonds were discovered in Tel Aviv's largest synagogue.
But somehow you're going to disregard all of that and tell me i have more hate in me right?
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I have looked at your websites, I have read through the information, the only problem is that it does not add up, it has huge gaps, it no evidence to back it up, all it is really theories, there is nothing, I have tried o be unbiased about it, but there is nothing there, I have looked at the information others have posted to prove the Holocaust, I have read them I have seen the documents, I have seen the orders, I have seen the signed documents and the signed orders, I have seen the pictures, I have seen the video footage, I have seen all this stuff and more to back up there evidence. Do you have any of this evidence, if you do please provide it, I would like to see your video evidence proving the Holocaust did not happen, I would like to see you pictures proving the Holocaust did not happen, I want you to provide those things for me now. If you can not then it is evident without a doubt, that you are wrong and you are a liar. Prove it now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Originally posted by BlazinBlades I have looked at your websites, I have read through the information, the only problem is that it does not add up, it has huge gaps, it no evidence to back it up, all it is really theories, there is nothing, I have tried o be unbiased about it, but there is nothing there, I have looked at the information others have posted to prove the Holocaust, I have read them I have seen the documents, I have seen the orders, I have seen the signed documents and the signed orders, I have seen the pictures, I have seen the video footage, I have seen all this stuff and more to back up there evidence. Do you have any of this evidence, if you do please provide it, I would like to see your video evidence proving the Holocaust did not happen, I would like to see you pictures proving the Holocaust did not happen, I want you to provide those things for me now. If you can not then it is evident without a doubt, that you are wrong and you are a liar. Prove it now.
On the TOPIC of the holocaust and from the speed of your post i know you didnt even read all the proof i posted above. The trial of ernst zundel showed more than enough evidence that it can be QUESTIONED. But its banned to research because of people like you who want to treat the event as a religion whos faith must never be questioned
I have to deal with people like you who say GIVE PROOOFFF NOW!!111
And i have to deal with people that say YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST AND TRYING TO RESEARCH IT!
YOu ask far too much.
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Originally posted by Zerogenum Originally posted by BlazinBlades I have looked at your websites, I have read through the information, the only problem is that it does not add up, it has huge gaps, it no evidence to back it up, all it is really theories, there is nothing, I have tried o be unbiased about it, but there is nothing there, I have looked at the information others have posted to prove the Holocaust, I have read them I have seen the documents, I have seen the orders, I have seen the signed documents and the signed orders, I have seen the pictures, I have seen the video footage, I have seen all this stuff and more to back up there evidence. Do you have any of this evidence, if you do please provide it, I would like to see your video evidence proving the Holocaust did not happen, I would like to see you pictures proving the Holocaust did not happen, I want you to provide those things for me now. If you can not then it is evident without a doubt, that you are wrong and you are a liar. Prove it now.
On the TOPIC of the holocaust and from the speed of your post i know you didnt even read all the proof i posted above. The trial of ernst zundel showed more than enough evidence that it can be QUESTIONED. But its banned to research because of people like you who want to treat the event as a religion whos faith must never be questioned
I have to deal with people like you who say GIVE PROOOFFF NOW!!111
And i have to deal with people that say YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST AND TRYING TO RESEARCH IT!
YOu ask far too much.
No, this is about the Holocaust, you see you say and believe that my family members were not murdered by Nazis, you say the Holocaust did not happen. Now you have been given proof it has with documents and letters and orders signed by German officers and talk about the mass murder that was taking place, you have been given photos showing the mass murder, you have been given video footage showing the mass murders, you have been given DNA evidence proving the Mass murders, you have been given eye witness accounts of the mass murders. I want from you right now, evident from you that the Holocaust did not happen, I want Pictures that prove it did not happen, I want Video footage proving it did not happen, I want evidence to prove that signed documents and letters by Nazi officers about the mass murders are wrong, and I want it now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Originally posted by BlazinBlades Originally posted by Zerogenum Originally posted by BlazinBlades I have looked at your websites, I have read through the information, the only problem is that it does not add up, it has huge gaps, it no evidence to back it up, all it is really theories, there is nothing, I have tried o be unbiased about it, but there is nothing there, I have looked at the information others have posted to prove the Holocaust, I have read them I have seen the documents, I have seen the orders, I have seen the signed documents and the signed orders, I have seen the pictures, I have seen the video footage, I have seen all this stuff and more to back up there evidence. Do you have any of this evidence, if you do please provide it, I would like to see your video evidence proving the Holocaust did not happen, I would like to see you pictures proving the Holocaust did not happen, I want you to provide those things for me now. If you can not then it is evident without a doubt, that you are wrong and you are a liar. Prove it now.
On the TOPIC of the holocaust and from the speed of your post i know you didnt even read all the proof i posted above. The trial of ernst zundel showed more than enough evidence that it can be QUESTIONED. But its banned to research because of people like you who want to treat the event as a religion whos faith must never be questioned
I have to deal with people like you who say GIVE PROOOFFF NOW!!111
And i have to deal with people that say YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST AND TRYING TO RESEARCH IT!
YOu ask far too much.
No, this is about the Holocaust, you see you say and believe that my family members were not murdered by Nazis, you say the Holocaust did not happen. Now you have been given proof it has with documents and letters and orders signed by German officers and talk about the mass murder that was taking place, you have been given photos showing the mass murder, you have been given video footage showing the mass murders, you have been given DNA evidence proving the Mass murders, you have been given eye witness accounts of the mass murders. I want from you right now, evident from you that the Holocaust did not happen, I want Pictures that prove it did not happen, I want Video footage proving it did not happen, I want evidence to prove that signed documents and letters by Nazi officers about the mass murders are wrong, and I want it now.
Well the ADL website headed by Abraham Foxman the king of Supremacism. Says and i QUOTE
There is no single Nazi document that expressly enumerates a "master plan" for the annihilation of European Jewry. Holocaust-denial propagandists misrepresent this fact as an exposure of the Holocaust "hoax"; in doing so, they reveal a fundamentally misleading approach to the history of the era. That there was no single document does not mean there was no plan. The "Final Solution" — the Nazis' comprehensive plan to murder all European Jews — was, as the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust observes, "the culmination of a long evolution of Nazi Jewish policy." 1 The destruction process was shaped gradually: it was borne of many thousands of directives.2
Borne slowly over thousands of directives?????
THATS THE ADL BY THE WAY. THE ANTI ME.
now SHUT UP ABOUT THESE DOCUMENTS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. the NUREMBERG DOCS ARE ALL DOCTORED AND THEY ARE DISREGARDED IN MODERN DAY.
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Originally posted by Zerogenum Originally posted by BlazinBlades Originally posted by Zerogenum Originally posted by BlazinBlades I have looked at your websites, I have read through the information, the only problem is that it does not add up, it has huge gaps, it no evidence to back it up, all it is really theories, there is nothing, I have tried o be unbiased about it, but there is nothing there, I have looked at the information others have posted to prove the Holocaust, I have read them I have seen the documents, I have seen the orders, I have seen the signed documents and the signed orders, I have seen the pictures, I have seen the video footage, I have seen all this stuff and more to back up there evidence. Do you have any of this evidence, if you do please provide it, I would like to see your video evidence proving the Holocaust did not happen, I would like to see you pictures proving the Holocaust did not happen, I want you to provide those things for me now. If you can not then it is evident without a doubt, that you are wrong and you are a liar. Prove it now.
On the TOPIC of the holocaust and from the speed of your post i know you didnt even read all the proof i posted above. The trial of ernst zundel showed more than enough evidence that it can be QUESTIONED. But its banned to research because of people like you who want to treat the event as a religion whos faith must never be questioned
I have to deal with people like you who say GIVE PROOOFFF NOW!!111
And i have to deal with people that say YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST AND TRYING TO RESEARCH IT!
YOu ask far too much.
No, this is about the Holocaust, you see you say and believe that my family members were not murdered by Nazis, you say the Holocaust did not happen. Now you have been given proof it has with documents and letters and orders signed by German officers and talk about the mass murder that was taking place, you have been given photos showing the mass murder, you have been given video footage showing the mass murders, you have been given DNA evidence proving the Mass murders, you have been given eye witness accounts of the mass murders. I want from you right now, evident from you that the Holocaust did not happen, I want Pictures that prove it did not happen, I want Video footage proving it did not happen, I want evidence to prove that signed documents and letters by Nazi officers about the mass murders are wrong, and I want it now.
Well the ADL website headed by Abraham Foxman the king of Supremacism. Says and i QUOTE
There is no single Nazi document that expressly enumerates a "master plan" for the annihilation of European Jewry. Holocaust-denial propagandists misrepresent this fact as an exposure of the Holocaust "hoax"; in doing so, they reveal a fundamentally misleading approach to the history of the era. That there was no single document does not mean there was no plan. The "Final Solution" — the Nazis' comprehensive plan to murder all European Jews — was, as the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust observes, "the culmination of a long evolution of Nazi Jewish policy." 1 The destruction process was shaped gradually: it was borne of many thousands of directives.2
Borne slowly over thousands of directives?????
THATS THE ADL BY THE WAY. THE ANTI ME.
now SHUT UP ABOUT THESE DOCUMENTS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. the NUREMBERG DOCS ARE ALL DOCTORED AND THEY ARE DISREGARDED IN MODERN DAY.
No you still don’t get it, nor do you understand what they wrote there, I cant believe you don’t get that but that is beside the point, what you have there is not proof, it is nothing there is nothing there, I want proof I want evidence I want things like this below:
In Kiev, difficulties that arose during the execution of a major action of this type - particularly with regard to registration - were overcome by the use of posters announcing that all Jews were to report for resettlement. Although it was initially thought that the action would only involve 5,000 to 6,000 Jews, more than 30,000 Jews reported, who as a result of extremely efficient organization still believed they were going to be resettled right up until the time they were executed.
I want Pictures to prove it did not happen, because there are pictures that prove it did, I want video footage that proves it did not happen because there is video footage that does prove it. I want your evidence I want your proof and I want it back up. Now give it to me. Oh and by the way, why are you telling me to shut up, I thought you like Freedome of Speach, how ironic, I guess only when it suits you huh.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Here are your famous pictures that "prove they did"
*NOTE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE SEEING DEAD BODIES DONT CLICK THIS LINK IT IS A LINK TO DEAD BODIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't take Zerogunum's rants seriously, BlazinBlades. He's just sad that his team lost during WWII. Jews were not killed because they were communist sympathizers, Jews were communist sympathizers because they were killed. Of course nobody will ever find a note written by Hitler that says, "I want to kill all Jews." because he wanted more than that. He wanted Jews, Blacks, Arabs, Asians, Indians, Gays, Handicaps, and more. That's why the only records that have been found are more general extermination notes. The Nazis wouldn't be stupid enough to keep written documents that say, "On X day at X camp, we killed X Jews by X [method]." As for your links to so much hate violence and such, you put so much spin on it through your posts that not even the Tazmanian Devil could keep his head straight. No current document that holds an objective perspective about what really happened in the Holocaust will ever be found true. We are left with eyewitness reports, survivor diaries, and military records. If Jews say they were murdered by the thousands, arrested SS troops admitted to killing thousands of Jews, and Allied records of secret death camps housing dead and dying Jews are all we have left, I'd say the evidence is pretty damning. Your photos are crap. Hitler would've never bee caught dead at one of those camps (the Nazis crafted their own false evidence), and the picture with the soviet soldiers is Nazi propoganda (Nazi soldiers in stolen Soviet suits) to shift the focus the the Jews' anger.
Originally posted by kimosabe Don't take Zerogunum's rants seriously, BlazinBlades. He's just sad that his team lost during WWII. Jews were not killed because they were communist sympathizers, Jews were communist sympathizers because they were killed. Of course nobody will ever find a note writted by Hitler that says, "I want to kill all Jews." because he wanted more than that. He wanted Jews, Blacks, Arabs, Asians, Indians, Gays, Handicaps, and more. That's why the only records that have been found are more general extermination notes. The Nazis wouldn't be stupid enough to keep written documents that say, "On X day at X camp, we killed X Jews by X [method]." As for your links to so much hate violence and such, you put so much spin on it through your posts that not even the Tazmanian Devil could keep his head straight. No current document that holds an objective perspective about what really happened in the Holocaust will ever be found true. We are left with eyewitness reports, survivor diaries, and military records. If Jews say they were murdered by the thousands, arrested SS troops admitted to killing thousands of Jews, and Allied records of secret death camps housing dead and dying Jews are all we have left, I'd say the evidence is pretty damning. Your photos are crap. Hitler would've never bee caught dead at one of those camps (the Nazis crafted their own false evidence), and the picture with the soviet soldiers is Nazi propoganda (Nazi soldiers in stolen Soviet suits) to shift the focus the the Jews' anger.
You say that my photos I just posted are nazi propaganda. Yet you fail to realize these photos were brought to nuremberg by Jews. Nice logic buddy.
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Originally posted by Zerogenum Here are your famous pictures that "prove they did"
*NOTE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE SEEING DEAD BODIES DONT CLICK THIS LINK IT IS A LINK TO DEAD BODIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you want to know something SICK AND DISGUSTING. those CRIMINALS took that DOCTORED PHOTO to an INTERNATIONAL TRIAL!
YOUR PHOTOS ARE THE VERY ONES IN QUESTION.
Okay you must have misunderstood, I am not talking about altered photos, I am not talking about photos altered years later either, I want photos that have been verified as being real that have been tested and prove the holocaust did not happen, because there are plenty of photos that have been verified even by the Germans that prove the Holocaust did happen, I don’t want altered fake ones I don’t want made up ones, I want verified ones from you. And I want verified video footage that proves it did not happen, that is what I want form you, I want things like say reports from US and British army units that moved into those camps and seen what the result was, I want things like that, that are verified that prove the holocaust did not happen, there is plenty of that on the other side that prove it did happen, but I want yours.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Originally posted by Zerogenum You say that my photos I just posted are nazi propaganda. Yet you fail to realize these photos were brought to nuremberg by Jews. Nice logic buddy.
Or how about that they were recieved by Nazis posing as Jews, or that when the photos were "developed," aka: "doctored" (most likely in Nuremberg), the Nazis needed some kind of plausible excuse so while they were lying anyway, they just lied up a good excuse.
"Nice logic buddy."
What's more beleiveable: Jews turning in evidence that the extermination of millions of their religion was false? -or- Nazis lied up this false counterevidence to keep their hands clean if things went bad?
Originally posted by BlazinBlades Originally posted by Zerogenum Here are your famous pictures that "prove they did"
*NOTE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE SEEING DEAD BODIES DONT CLICK THIS LINK IT IS A LINK TO DEAD BODIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you want to know something SICK AND DISGUSTING. those CRIMINALS took that DOCTORED PHOTO to an INTERNATIONAL TRIAL!
YOUR PHOTOS ARE THE VERY ONES IN QUESTION.
Okay you must have misunderstood, I am not talking about altered photos, I am not talking about photos altered years later either, I want photos that have been verified as being real that have been tested and prove the holocaust did not happen, because there are plenty of photos that have been verified even by the Germans that prove the Holocaust did happen, I don’t want altered fake ones I don’t want made up ones, I want verified ones from you. And I want verified video footage that proves it did not happen, that is what I want form you, I want things like say reports from US and British army units that moved into those camps and seen what the result was, I want things like that, that are verified that prove the holocaust did not happen, there is plenty of that on the other side that prove it did happen, but I want yours.
Iim not going to insult you're intelligence because you know how to spell you know your grammar and from what i've discerned you are probably an articulate person. But please understand what you are asking of me. Photos of nothing. You are asking for a blank photo. How can a photo of nothing prove nothing happened?
A photo of something proves something happened but the other way around it just doesnt work.
The CIA.gov website verified soviet involvement with the photos i posted. But like i said before Blazin, I can never decide whats true for SURE until i see pope pius XII's records and when later this year the german records are supposed to be unsealed.
But if you want a full length video of what life was like inside a concentration camp. Check this video out. yet again MORE evidence that questions the validity of this event.
The one on top is larger than on the bottom. Both show video footage inside the camps and they're taking showers (With water not cyanide they'll probably say they switched the pipes or something) playing soccer, orchestra, dancing.
Look whatever just watch them. If you still don't at least recognize there is a doubt about it, Im going to just regard this arguement as an infinite that will go on for eternity.
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Originally posted by kimosabe Originally posted by Zerogenum You say that my photos I just posted are nazi propaganda. Yet you fail to realize these photos were brought to nuremberg by Jews. Nice logic buddy.
Or how about that they were recieved by Nazis posing as Jews, or that when the photos were "developed," aka: "doctored" (most likely in Nuremberg), the Nazis needed some kind of plausible excuse so while they were lying anyway, they just lied up a good excuse.
"Nice logic buddy."
Except thats not what happened and you made that all up and the proof is in words like "Most Likely". and more proof is nazis posing as jews. Thats like saying martin luther king jr posing as ronald reagen. The difference in appearance is most clear.
I'm done with you anyway you started PMING me and then after you started pming me you told me not to moan to you, classless
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Originally posted by kimosabe Originally posted by Zerogenum You say that my photos I just posted are nazi propaganda. Yet you fail to realize these photos were brought to nuremberg by Jews. Nice logic buddy.
Or how about that they were recieved by Nazis posing as Jews, or that when the photos were "developed," aka: "doctored" (most likely in Nuremberg), the Nazis needed some kind of plausible excuse so while they were lying anyway, they just lied up a good excuse.
"Nice logic buddy."
What's more beleiveable: Jews turning in evidence that the extermination of millions of their religion was false? -or- Nazis lied up this false counterevidence to keep their hands clean if things went bad?
I didn't see you answer my question. Now, let's see what's "more likely" since all of your claims are all just that: "claims".
Whats more believeable is Jews turning in evidence to show a holocaust since in Theodore Herzls Diary (Founder of Zionism) it says.
Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897: “It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. -- From Herzl's Diary
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Originally posted by Zerogenum Well the ADL website headed by Abraham Foxman the king of Supremacism. Says and i QUOTE
There is no single Nazi document that expressly enumerates a "master plan" for the annihilation of European Jewry. Holocaust-denial propagandists misrepresent this fact as an exposure of the Holocaust "hoax"; in doing so, they reveal a fundamentally misleading approach to the history of the era. That there was no single document does not mean there was no plan. The "Final Solution" — the Nazis' comprehensive plan to murder all European Jews — was, as the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust observes, "the culmination of a long evolution of Nazi Jewish policy." 1 The destruction process was shaped gradually: it was borne of many thousands of directives.2
Borne slowly over thousands of directives?????
THATS THE ADL BY THE WAY. THE ANTI ME.
now SHUT UP ABOUT THESE DOCUMENTS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. the NUREMBERG DOCS ARE ALL DOCTORED AND THEY ARE DISREGARDED IN MODERN DAY.
So here I am bored at work.
Holy crap, did you read what you just quoted? You just supported the argument against you. Abraham Foxman here is saying that the Nazis didn't all sit down and draw up a master document titled the 'Final Solution' and send copies to all Nazi party members, but instead their program of genocide developed gradually over many years. The end result of that evolution was the death camps and highly organized human transportation and execution machine they sat within.
Hence, as Foxman says, they didn't just wake up one day and decide to kill all the Jews, they arrived there gradually. This is supported by the Korherr Report, which notes the shift from merely expelling Jews from German territory to actually killing them.
There are several million Jews collecting repairations today even though there were several million who died because they pay the relatives of the slain. The person posting that their grandmother was a prisoner and that her husband and child were killed is a perfect example. The grandmother survived, she is eligible for such reperations if she fights for them. She has children, and all those children are also eligible, possibly even their children. Basically if you execute one man and his family survives, they are all eligible. It is not just survivors collecting this money. Also, it isn't just jews collecting this money.
Of course you claim the Nuremburg documents are fabricated and part of a conspiracy. You will use this excuse for any evidence we present to you, and despite a mountain of evidence contradicting you will continue to believe there was never a Holocaust. Hence, arguing with you is pointless, because you are clearly a fanatic.
So by all means continue to believe the mass murder did not take place despite having every point made proven wrong in this thread, and despite having not a shred of evidence (I have already shot down everything you have posted, your "revisionist" website is not reliable, I wouldn't continue to draw from it).
You have lost the argument and are now resorting to logical fallacies to continue fighting. You have failed. The holocaust happened and your rabid hatred of Zionism will not change this fact. That huge list of dates you just posted, all took place AFTER the holocaust, and even if there were jewish groups engaging in acts of terrorism before the war it does not prove in any way that the holocaust did not happen.
You have lost this argument. Continued postings here will only continue to make you look like a fanatic, and I will be along eventually do destroy any fallacious arguments you come up with.
Originally posted by Sawtooth Originally posted by Zerogenum Well the ADL website headed by Abraham Foxman the king of Supremacism. Says and i QUOTE
There is no single Nazi document that expressly enumerates a "master plan" for the annihilation of European Jewry. Holocaust-denial propagandists misrepresent this fact as an exposure of the Holocaust "hoax"; in doing so, they reveal a fundamentally misleading approach to the history of the era. That there was no single document does not mean there was no plan. The "Final Solution" — the Nazis' comprehensive plan to murder all European Jews — was, as the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust observes, "the culmination of a long evolution of Nazi Jewish policy." 1 The destruction process was shaped gradually: it was borne of many thousands of directives.2
Borne slowly over thousands of directives?????
THATS THE ADL BY THE WAY. THE ANTI ME.
now SHUT UP ABOUT THESE DOCUMENTS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. the NUREMBERG DOCS ARE ALL DOCTORED AND THEY ARE DISREGARDED IN MODERN DAY.
So here I am bored at work.
Holy crap, did you read what you just quoted? You just supported the argument against you. Abraham Foxman here is saying that the Nazis didn't all sit down and draw up a master document titled the 'Final Solution' and send copies to all Nazi party members, but instead their program of genocide developed gradually over many years. The end result of that evolution was the death camps and highly organized human transportation and execution machine they sat within.
Hence, as Foxman says, they didn't just wake up one day and decide to kill all the Jews, they arrived there gradually. This is supported by the Korherr Report, which notes the shift from merely expelling Jews from German territory to actually killing them.
There are several million Jews collecting repairations today even though there were several million who died because they pay the relatives of the slain. The person posting that their grandmother was a prisoner and that her husband and child were killed is a perfect example. The grandmother survived, she is eligible for such reperations if she fights for them. She has children, and all those children are also eligible, possibly even their children. Basically if you execute one man and his family survives, they are all eligible. It is not just survivors collecting this money. Also, it isn't just jews collecting this money.
Of course you claim the Nuremburg documents are fabricated and part of a conspiracy. You will use this excuse for any evidence we present to you, and despite a mountain of evidence contradicting you will continue to believe there was never a Holocaust. Hence, arguing with you is pointless, because you are clearly a fanatic.
So by all means continue to believe the mass murder did not take place despite having every point made proven wrong in this thread, and despite having not a shred of evidence (I have already shot down everything you have posted, your "revisionist" website is not reliable, I wouldn't continue to draw from it).
You have lost the argument and are now resorting to logical fallacies to continue fighting. You have failed. The holocaust happened and your rabid hatred of Zionism will not change this fact. That huge list of dates you just posted, all took place AFTER the holocaust, and even if there were jewish groups engaging in acts of terrorism before the war it does not prove in any way that the holocaust did not happen.
You have lost this argument. Continued postings here will only continue to make you look like a fanatic, and I will be along eventually do destroy any fallacious arguments you come up with.
Now for some pie. BlazinBlades seemed to understand the post but you didnt. It proved there was no documentation, he blamed it on policies and you think i actually believe that and somehow assert it as true.
YOU lost the arguement because YOUR FACTS are in question and you DENY MY FACTS because its CONVENIENT for you. I didnt lose, you quit.
You cant even argue with me because you tell me all my facts are wrong and all yours are right. (Whos the fanatic?)
And i love your little rant on OYYY VEEYYYYY YOU HATE ZIONISM. and They're eligible for reperations because......i say so!!! even from neutral countries like switzerland!!
Think about it you criticize me for calling nuremberg a farce. So im going to criticize you for calling my sorces a farce.
You're going to keep coming here like you say because its all you know how to do.
The BIG LIE propaganda technique of shouting over me with EMOTION even though i present FACTS that YOU DENY TO AVOID DISCUSSION.
And then you say "You lose". you are NUTS
Just because you DENY a FACT doesnt mean you've "Shot it down" but nice try crack shot.
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It's really quite amazing how much anit-semitism you have memorized to draw from on such short notice, and how many pro-Nazi websites you must have bookmarked for just such an occaision as this. No, Jews would not ever have turned in evidence to support the political party that desperately tried to exterminate them. You also have shortened much of Herzl's quote, closer to a speech, to emphasize your point instead of his. Now tell me, straighforwardly, which of the options in my question is more beleiveable?
Originally posted by Zerogenum Originally posted by BlazinBlades Originally posted by Zerogenum Here are your famous pictures that "prove they did"
*NOTE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE SEEING DEAD BODIES DONT CLICK THIS LINK IT IS A LINK TO DEAD BODIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you want to know something SICK AND DISGUSTING. those CRIMINALS took that DOCTORED PHOTO to an INTERNATIONAL TRIAL!
YOUR PHOTOS ARE THE VERY ONES IN QUESTION.
Okay you must have misunderstood, I am not talking about altered photos, I am not talking about photos altered years later either, I want photos that have been verified as being real that have been tested and prove the holocaust did not happen, because there are plenty of photos that have been verified even by the Germans that prove the Holocaust did happen, I don’t want altered fake ones I don’t want made up ones, I want verified ones from you. And I want verified video footage that proves it did not happen, that is what I want form you, I want things like say reports from US and British army units that moved into those camps and seen what the result was, I want things like that, that are verified that prove the holocaust did not happen, there is plenty of that on the other side that prove it did happen, but I want yours.
Iim not going to insult you're intelligence because you know how to spell you know your grammar and from what i've discerned you are probably an articulate person. But please understand what you are asking of me. Photos of nothing. You are asking for a blank photo. How can a photo of nothing prove nothing happened?
A photo of something proves something happened but the other way around it just doesnt work.
The CIA.gov website verified soviet involvement with the photos i posted. But like i said before Blazin, I can never decide whats true for SURE until i see pope pius XII's records and when later this year the german records are supposed to be unsealed.
But if you want a full length video of what life was like inside a concentration camp. Check this video out. yet again MORE evidence that questions the validity of this event.
The one on top is larger than on the bottom. Both show video footage inside the camps and they're taking showers (With water not cyanide they'll probably say they switched the pipes or something) playing soccer, orchestra, dancing.
Look whatever just watch them. If you still don't at least recognize there is a doubt about it, Im going to just regard this arguement as an infinite that will go on for eternity.
Well thank you for the compliment English is my 9th langue I speak so I try hard to write well but I do make mistakes at time. I have watched your video and I have to tell you there is nothing there, like what part of verified do you not understand, I am not trying to be mean, I want verified from you not theories and all this nonsense, you see I want things like Pictures that have been verified that prove the Holocaust did not happen, because you see there have been many people who have seen pictures of what happened and have actually managed to match the person who is being murdered in the picture to another picture of their relative and have found out through tracing that that is their relative and since the picture matches of the person what can I tell you. The same for video footage, their have been videos of the dead laying around and relatives have been able to actually match pictures of their relative up with the dead person laying on the ground in the video footage, these types of things and other test have verified photos and video footage, I want the same sort of verification from you for yours that prove the holocaust did not happen. I want verified information from you that is all.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Originally posted by kimosabe It's really quite amazing how much anit-semitism you have memorized to draw from on such short notice, and how many pro-Nazi websites you must have bookmarked for just such an occaision as this. No, Jews would not ever have turned in evidence to support the political party that desperately tried to exterminate them. You also have shortened much of Herzl's quote, closer to a speech, to emphasize your point instead of his. Now tell me, straighforwardly, which of the options in my question is more beleiveable?
SO once again you call my facts "Anti Semitism" and my sources "Pro Nazi".
Like i said before the BIG LIE propaganda technique doesnt work with me since i know of it.
You cant deny my facts and expect me to take you seriously.
Oh and what exactly did Herzl mean by that then by the anti semites being their best friend?
I told you my answer to your question already, you denied it but you didnt disprove it. And denying it doesnt count with me. You better do more than just throw down the racist or anti semite label.
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Originally posted by BlazinBlades Originally posted by Zerogenum Originally posted by BlazinBlades Originally posted by Zerogenum Here are your famous pictures that "prove they did"
*NOTE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE SEEING DEAD BODIES DONT CLICK THIS LINK IT IS A LINK TO DEAD BODIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you want to know something SICK AND DISGUSTING. those CRIMINALS took that DOCTORED PHOTO to an INTERNATIONAL TRIAL!
YOUR PHOTOS ARE THE VERY ONES IN QUESTION.
Okay you must have misunderstood, I am not talking about altered photos, I am not talking about photos altered years later either, I want photos that have been verified as being real that have been tested and prove the holocaust did not happen, because there are plenty of photos that have been verified even by the Germans that prove the Holocaust did happen, I don’t want altered fake ones I don’t want made up ones, I want verified ones from you. And I want verified video footage that proves it did not happen, that is what I want form you, I want things like say reports from US and British army units that moved into those camps and seen what the result was, I want things like that, that are verified that prove the holocaust did not happen, there is plenty of that on the other side that prove it did happen, but I want yours.
Iim not going to insult you're intelligence because you know how to spell you know your grammar and from what i've discerned you are probably an articulate person. But please understand what you are asking of me. Photos of nothing. You are asking for a blank photo. How can a photo of nothing prove nothing happened?
A photo of something proves something happened but the other way around it just doesnt work.
The CIA.gov website verified soviet involvement with the photos i posted. But like i said before Blazin, I can never decide whats true for SURE until i see pope pius XII's records and when later this year the german records are supposed to be unsealed.
But if you want a full length video of what life was like inside a concentration camp. Check this video out. yet again MORE evidence that questions the validity of this event.
The one on top is larger than on the bottom. Both show video footage inside the camps and they're taking showers (With water not cyanide they'll probably say they switched the pipes or something) playing soccer, orchestra, dancing.
Look whatever just watch them. If you still don't at least recognize there is a doubt about it, Im going to just regard this arguement as an infinite that will go on for eternity.
Well thank you for the compliment English is my 9th langue I speak so I try hard to write well but I do make mistakes at time. I have watched your video and I have to tell you there is nothing there, like what part of verified do you not understand, I am not trying to be mean, I want verified from you not theories and all this nonsense, you see I want things like Pictures that have been verified that prove the Holocaust did not happen, because you see there have been many people who have seen pictures of what happened and have actually managed to match the person who is being murdered in the picture to another picture of their relative and have found out through tracing that that is their relative and since the picture matches of the person what can I tell you. The same for video footage, their have been videos of the dead laying around and relatives have been able to actually match pictures of their relative up with the dead person laying on the ground in the video footage, these types of things and other test have verified photos and video footage, I want the same sort of verification from you for yours that prove the holocaust did not happen. I want verified information from you that is all.
The word of an eyewitness especially in this scenario wasnt enough for me. I think we should postpone this until the records are unsealed. I regret i cant muster up perfect evidence, but the vatican and germans have sealed it.
But this is a subject to which all western nations have been reduced to puppet states and are having billions siphoned off for reparations. I would really really like proof of it happening before damning my fellow europeans.
Right now I'm satisfied with saying I dont know if it did or didnt happen. But with my evidence im leaning towards no, but im open to anything since the sealed evidence and all that.
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Thank you for writing all that, I don’t really need to say anything now LMAO.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
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Everybody has still been missing the point: So far it's been a dichotomy with the Anti-Semites on one side and the Zionists on the other; doesn't anybody see the irony in punishing somebody for questioning a historical event?
Preaching hate towards others and denying a historical event are disjoint: Questioning and providing evidence to refute the claims of a historical event do not imply that the individual wishes to advocate hate towards the victims of the supposed event.
Actually, somebody that denies the holocaust can be refuted using the same irrefutable evidence that has led the rest of us to believe that the holocaust really existed: If there is such overwhelming evidence, then there is no need for incarcertation and punishment, as the individual clearly suffers from a mental deficiency.
A lot of people think that all of the Jews are supporting Israel's actions, although a great deal of them just wish for peace: I remember having an economics teacher that was of Israeli descent; he actually decried Israel's aggression and stated that the only solution to Palestine's acts of terrorism would be a boost to their economy which would deprive the terrorist organizations of recruits by making the people less reliant on them.
Look at what Israel has done: At first I applauded them for defending themselves and thwarting the terrorist organization Hezbollah, but now that I've seen how the infrastructure has changed: They further fortified the position of the political Hezbollah organization, making them familiar to the hundreds of thousands that lost their homes.
Did you see how Palestine voted in Hamas democratically? That should give you a good idea about the economic condition of the people: Regardless of the intentions of a political body, they are willing to support it if it provides for them (The money trickling in from Syria and Iran).
Another issue I'd like to put forth:
Just because a person shares the same phenotype with a subset of individuals does not mean that you can pigeonhole the individual into a generalization: Yes, it is true that most African Americans score lower on standardized tests, but that does not mean that a person sharing the same phenotype has the same deficiency; I've had professors with PhD's in mathematics that came from Africa (with the African phenotype), refuting the claim that people of African descent are necessarily intellectually inferior.
Look at Condoleezza Rice: She is African American and shows more intellectual prowess than our president.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Deny what facts, I have yet to see any facts from you, other posters have asked you for facts, they have provided you facts abut you still have not. Your facts need to be backed up with evidence and proof, other posters have backed up their facts with evidence with proof, you have not, all you have done is thrown out a theory that is all. You have not given one piece of evidence that proves any of your facts, all you have given is theories with little pieces of stuff that you have cut out and left the other 99 percent of the information. You have picked little things out and left the rest. Take for example you Jews Declare war in 1933 on Germany, did you look into it, if you had you would have found out that it was economical, I consider economical and the mass murder of groups of people two different things, as any other sane person would. You don’t have any facts, you don’t have any proof, you don’t have anything at all. The only thing that you have proven is that you are racists filled with hate and that is all.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Deny what facts, I have yet to see any facts from you, other posters have asked you for facts, they have provided you facts abut you still have not. Your facts need to be backed up with evidence and proof, other posters have backed up their facts with evidence with proof, you have not, all you have done is thrown out a theory that is all. You have not given one piece of evidence that proves any of your facts, all you have given is theories with little pieces of stuff that you have cut out and left the other 99 percent of the information. You have picked little things out and left the rest. Take for example you Jews Declare war in 1933 on Germany, did you look into it, if you had you would have found out that it was economical, I consider economical and the mass murder of groups of people two different things, as any other sane person would. You don’t have any facts, you don’t have any proof, you don’t have anything at all. The only thing that you have proven is that you are racists filled with hate and that is all.
Do you need to include nazi racist hate in every post? Let me show you some hate that you can deal with.
November 6, 1944, Cairo. Lord Moyne, British Resident Minister in the Middle East, and his driver were assassinated outside the minister's Cairo residence. Two murderers were involved. One was injured, and both were immediately arrested.
January 10, 1945, Cairo. The British supreme military court today put on trial Eliahu Bet-Tsours from Tel Aviv and Eliahu Hakim of Haifa, both admitted members of the Jewish terrorist Stern gang.January 18, 1945, Cairo. The British supreme military court sentenced the murderers of Lord Moyne to death. Both killers admitted their act and also admitted their membership in the Stem gang which they said ordered the killings as a warning to the British not to interfere with future Jewish immigration to Jerusalem.
March 22, 1945, Cairo. The two convicted Jewish Stern gang terrorists who murdered Lord Moyne and his driver were hanged today in the Cairo prison British authorities announced.
January 12, 1946, Palestine. A train was derailed by Jewish terrorists at Hadera near Haifa by a bomb and robbed of £35,000 in cash. Two British police officials were injuredJanuary 18, 1946, Haifa. Over 900 illegal Jewish immigrants were captured off Haifa by the British Royal Navy
January 19, 1946, Jerusalem. .Jewish terrorists destroyed a power station and a portion of the Central Jerusalem prison by explosives. Two persons were killed by the police
January 20, 1946, Palestine. Jewish terrorists launched an attack against the British-controlled Givat Olga Coast Guard Station located between Tel Aviv and Haifa. Ten persons were injured and one was killed. Captured papers indicated that the purpose of this raid was to take revenge on the British for their seizure of the refugee ship on January 18. British military authorities in Jerusalem questioned 3,000 Jews and held 148 in custody.
July 22, 1946, Jerusalem. The west wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem which housed British Military Headquarters and other governmental offices was destroyed at 12:57 PM by explosives planted in the cellar by members of the Irgun terrorist gang. By the 26 of July, the casualties were 76 persons killed, 46 injured and 29 still missing in the rubble. The dead included many British, Arabs and Jews.April 25, 1946, Palestine. Jewish terrorists attacked a British military installation near Tel Aviv. This group, which contained a number of young girls, had as its goal the capture of British weapons. British authorities rounded up 1,200 suspects.
June 29, 1946, Palestine. British military units and police raided Jewish settlements throughout Palestine searching for the leaders of Haganah, a leading Jewish terrorist agency The Jewish Agency for Palestine was occupied and four top official arrested. At the end of June, 1946 2,000 were arrested and four Jews and one British soldier were killed.
July 1, 1946, Palestine. British officials announced the discovery of a large arms dump hidden underground at Meshek Yagur. 2,659 men and 59 women were detained for the three day operation in which 27 settlements were searched. Four were killed and 80 were injured.
July 23, l946 Jerusalem. The Irgun Zvai Leumi terrorist group takes responsibility for the King David bombing but blames the British, calling them “tyrants.”
July 24, 1946, London. The British government released a White Paper that accuses the Haganah, Irgun and Stern gangs of “a planned movement of sabotage and violence” under the direction of the Jewish Agency and asserts that the June 29 arrest of Zionist leaders was the cause of the bombing.
July 28, 1946, Jerusalem. The British Palestine Commander, Lt. General Sir Evelyn Barker, banned fraternization by British troops with Palestine Jews whom he stated “cannot be absolved of responsibility for terroristic acts.” The order states that this will punish “the race … by striking at their pockets and showing our contempt for them”
July 29, 1946, Tel Aviv. Police in Tel Aviv raided a workshop making bombs.
July 31, 1946, Tel Aviv. A large cache of weapons, extensive counterfeiting equipment and $1,000,000 in counterfeit Government bonds were discovered in Tel Aviv's largest synagogue.
But somehow you're going to disregard all of that and tell me i have more hate in me right?
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I have looked at your websites, I have read through the information, the only problem is that it does not add up, it has huge gaps, it no evidence to back it up, all it is really theories, there is nothing, I have tried o be unbiased about it, but there is nothing there, I have looked at the information others have posted to prove the Holocaust, I have read them I have seen the documents, I have seen the orders, I have seen the signed documents and the signed orders, I have seen the pictures, I have seen the video footage, I have seen all this stuff and more to back up there evidence. Do you have any of this evidence, if you do please provide it, I would like to see your video evidence proving the Holocaust did not happen, I would like to see you pictures proving the Holocaust did not happen, I want you to provide those things for me now. If you can not then it is evident without a doubt, that you are wrong and you are a liar. Prove it now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
I have to deal with people like you who say GIVE PROOOFFF NOW!!111
And i have to deal with people that say YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST AND TRYING TO RESEARCH IT!
YOu ask far too much.
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I have to deal with people like you who say GIVE PROOOFFF NOW!!111
And i have to deal with people that say YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST AND TRYING TO RESEARCH IT!
YOu ask far too much.
No, this is about the Holocaust, you see you say and believe that my family members were not murdered by Nazis, you say the Holocaust did not happen. Now you have been given proof it has with documents and letters and orders signed by German officers and talk about the mass murder that was taking place, you have been given photos showing the mass murder, you have been given video footage showing the mass murders, you have been given DNA evidence proving the Mass murders, you have been given eye witness accounts of the mass murders. I want from you right now, evident from you that the Holocaust did not happen, I want Pictures that prove it did not happen, I want Video footage proving it did not happen, I want evidence to prove that signed documents and letters by Nazi officers about the mass murders are wrong, and I want it now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
I have to deal with people like you who say GIVE PROOOFFF NOW!!111
And i have to deal with people that say YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST AND TRYING TO RESEARCH IT!
YOu ask far too much.
No, this is about the Holocaust, you see you say and believe that my family members were not murdered by Nazis, you say the Holocaust did not happen. Now you have been given proof it has with documents and letters and orders signed by German officers and talk about the mass murder that was taking place, you have been given photos showing the mass murder, you have been given video footage showing the mass murders, you have been given DNA evidence proving the Mass murders, you have been given eye witness accounts of the mass murders. I want from you right now, evident from you that the Holocaust did not happen, I want Pictures that prove it did not happen, I want Video footage proving it did not happen, I want evidence to prove that signed documents and letters by Nazi officers about the mass murders are wrong, and I want it now.
Well the ADL website headed by Abraham Foxman the king of Supremacism. Says and i QUOTE
There is no single Nazi document that expressly enumerates a "master plan" for the annihilation of European Jewry. Holocaust-denial propagandists misrepresent this fact as an exposure of the Holocaust "hoax"; in doing so, they reveal a fundamentally misleading approach to the history of the era. That there was no single document does not mean there was no plan. The "Final Solution" — the Nazis' comprehensive plan to murder all European Jews — was, as the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust observes, "the culmination of a long evolution of Nazi Jewish policy." 1 The destruction process was shaped gradually: it was borne of many thousands of directives.2
Borne slowly over thousands of directives?????
THATS THE ADL BY THE WAY. THE ANTI ME.
now SHUT UP ABOUT THESE DOCUMENTS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. the NUREMBERG DOCS ARE ALL DOCTORED AND THEY ARE DISREGARDED IN MODERN DAY.
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I have to deal with people like you who say GIVE PROOOFFF NOW!!111
And i have to deal with people that say YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST AND TRYING TO RESEARCH IT!
YOu ask far too much.
No, this is about the Holocaust, you see you say and believe that my family members were not murdered by Nazis, you say the Holocaust did not happen. Now you have been given proof it has with documents and letters and orders signed by German officers and talk about the mass murder that was taking place, you have been given photos showing the mass murder, you have been given video footage showing the mass murders, you have been given DNA evidence proving the Mass murders, you have been given eye witness accounts of the mass murders. I want from you right now, evident from you that the Holocaust did not happen, I want Pictures that prove it did not happen, I want Video footage proving it did not happen, I want evidence to prove that signed documents and letters by Nazi officers about the mass murders are wrong, and I want it now.
Well the ADL website headed by Abraham Foxman the king of Supremacism. Says and i QUOTE
There is no single Nazi document that expressly enumerates a "master plan" for the annihilation of European Jewry. Holocaust-denial propagandists misrepresent this fact as an exposure of the Holocaust "hoax"; in doing so, they reveal a fundamentally misleading approach to the history of the era. That there was no single document does not mean there was no plan. The "Final Solution" — the Nazis' comprehensive plan to murder all European Jews — was, as the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust observes, "the culmination of a long evolution of Nazi Jewish policy." 1 The destruction process was shaped gradually: it was borne of many thousands of directives.2
Borne slowly over thousands of directives?????
THATS THE ADL BY THE WAY. THE ANTI ME.
now SHUT UP ABOUT THESE DOCUMENTS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. the NUREMBERG DOCS ARE ALL DOCTORED AND THEY ARE DISREGARDED IN MODERN DAY.
No you still don’t get it, nor do you understand what they wrote there, I cant believe you don’t get that but that is beside the point, what you have there is not proof, it is nothing there is nothing there, I want proof I want evidence I want things like this below:
Ereignismeldung UdSSR, No. 128, November 3 1941.
In Kiev, difficulties that arose during the execution of a major action of this type - particularly with regard to registration - were overcome by the use of posters announcing that all Jews were to report for resettlement. Although it was initially thought that the action would only involve 5,000 to 6,000 Jews, more than 30,000 Jews reported, who as a result of extremely efficient organization still believed they were going to be resettled right up until the time they were executed.
Despite that fact that up to now a total of some 75,000 Jews have been liquidated in this way, it has nevertheless become apparent that this method will not provide a solution to the Jewish problem.
I want Pictures to prove it did not happen, because there are pictures that prove it did, I want video footage that proves it did not happen because there is video footage that does prove it. I want your evidence I want your proof and I want it back up. Now give it to me. Oh and by the way, why are you telling me to shut up, I thought you like Freedome of Speach, how ironic, I guess only when it suits you huh.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
*NOTE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE SEEING DEAD BODIES DONT CLICK THIS LINK IT IS A LINK TO DEAD BODIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.finalsolution88.com/images/Holocaust%20Myth%20Exposed%20-%2001%20-%20Faked%20Photo.jpg
http://www.finalsolution88.com/images/Holocaust%20Myth%20Exposed%20-%2009%20-%20Faked%20Photo.jpg
*DO NOT CLICK THE LINK ABOVE THIS ITS "OFFENSIVE" VERY REAL WORLD STUFF DEAD PEOPLE AND WHAT NOT.
And you want to know something SICK AND DISGUSTING. those CRIMINALS took that DOCTORED PHOTO to an INTERNATIONAL TRIAL!
YOUR PHOTOS ARE THE VERY ONES IN QUESTION.
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Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.
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Okay you must have misunderstood, I am not talking about altered photos, I am not talking about photos altered years later either, I want photos that have been verified as being real that have been tested and prove the holocaust did not happen, because there are plenty of photos that have been verified even by the Germans that prove the Holocaust did happen, I don’t want altered fake ones I don’t want made up ones, I want verified ones from you. And I want verified video footage that proves it did not happen, that is what I want form you, I want things like say reports from US and British army units that moved into those camps and seen what the result was, I want things like that, that are verified that prove the holocaust did not happen, there is plenty of that on the other side that prove it did happen, but I want yours.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Or how about that they were recieved by Nazis posing as Jews, or that when the photos were "developed," aka: "doctored" (most likely in Nuremberg), the Nazis needed some kind of plausible excuse so while they were lying anyway, they just lied up a good excuse.
"Nice logic buddy."
What's more beleiveable: Jews turning in evidence that the extermination of millions of their religion was false?
-or- Nazis lied up this false counterevidence to keep their hands clean if things went bad?
Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.
Okay you must have misunderstood, I am not talking about altered photos, I am not talking about photos altered years later either, I want photos that have been verified as being real that have been tested and prove the holocaust did not happen, because there are plenty of photos that have been verified even by the Germans that prove the Holocaust did happen, I don’t want altered fake ones I don’t want made up ones, I want verified ones from you. And I want verified video footage that proves it did not happen, that is what I want form you, I want things like say reports from US and British army units that moved into those camps and seen what the result was, I want things like that, that are verified that prove the holocaust did not happen, there is plenty of that on the other side that prove it did happen, but I want yours.
Iim not going to insult you're intelligence because you know how to spell you know your grammar and from what i've discerned you are probably an articulate person. But please understand what you are asking of me. Photos of nothing. You are asking for a blank photo. How can a photo of nothing prove nothing happened?
A photo of something proves something happened but the other way around it just doesnt work.
The CIA.gov website verified soviet involvement with the photos i posted. But like i said before Blazin, I can never decide whats true for SURE until i see pope pius XII's records and when later this year the german records are supposed to be unsealed.
But if you want a full length video of what life was like inside a concentration camp. Check this video out. yet again MORE evidence that questions the validity of this event.
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/HitlerianHomily.wmv
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/the_persecution_of_revisionists.wmv
The one on top is larger than on the bottom. Both show video footage inside the camps and they're taking showers (With water not cyanide they'll probably say they switched the pipes or something) playing soccer, orchestra, dancing.
Look whatever just watch them. If you still don't at least recognize there is a doubt about it, Im going to just regard this arguement as an infinite that will go on for eternity.
Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.
Or how about that they were recieved by Nazis posing as Jews, or that when the photos were "developed," aka: "doctored" (most likely in Nuremberg), the Nazis needed some kind of plausible excuse so while they were lying anyway, they just lied up a good excuse.
"Nice logic buddy."
Except thats not what happened and you made that all up and the proof is in words like "Most Likely". and more proof is nazis posing as jews. Thats like saying martin luther king jr posing as ronald reagen. The difference in appearance is most clear.
I'm done with you anyway you started PMING me and then after you started pming me you told me not to moan to you, classless
Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.
Or how about that they were recieved by Nazis posing as Jews, or that when the photos were "developed," aka: "doctored" (most likely in Nuremberg), the Nazis needed some kind of plausible excuse so while they were lying anyway, they just lied up a good excuse.
"Nice logic buddy."
What's more beleiveable: Jews turning in evidence that the extermination of millions of their religion was false?
-or- Nazis lied up this false counterevidence to keep their hands clean if things went bad?
I didn't see you answer my question. Now, let's see what's "more likely" since all of your claims are all just that: "claims".
Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.
Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897:
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. -- From Herzl's Diary
Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.
Holy crap, did you read what you just quoted? You just supported the argument against you. Abraham Foxman here is saying that the Nazis didn't all sit down and draw up a master document titled the 'Final Solution' and send copies to all Nazi party members, but instead their program of genocide developed gradually over many years. The end result of that evolution was the death camps and highly organized human transportation and execution machine they sat within.
Hence, as Foxman says, they didn't just wake up one day and decide to kill all the Jews, they arrived there gradually. This is supported by the Korherr Report, which notes the shift from merely expelling Jews from German territory to actually killing them.
There are several million Jews collecting repairations today even though there were several million who died because they pay the relatives of the slain. The person posting that their grandmother was a prisoner and that her husband and child were killed is a perfect example. The grandmother survived, she is eligible for such reperations if she fights for them. She has children, and all those children are also eligible, possibly even their children. Basically if you execute one man and his family survives, they are all eligible. It is not just survivors collecting this money. Also, it isn't just jews collecting this money.
Of course you claim the Nuremburg documents are fabricated and part of a conspiracy. You will use this excuse for any evidence we present to you, and despite a mountain of evidence contradicting you will continue to believe there was never a Holocaust. Hence, arguing with you is pointless, because you are clearly a fanatic.
So by all means continue to believe the mass murder did not take place despite having every point made proven wrong in this thread, and despite having not a shred of evidence (I have already shot down everything you have posted, your "revisionist" website is not reliable, I wouldn't continue to draw from it).
You have lost the argument and are now resorting to logical fallacies to continue fighting. You have failed. The holocaust happened and your rabid hatred of Zionism will not change this fact. That huge list of dates you just posted, all took place AFTER the holocaust, and even if there were jewish groups engaging in acts of terrorism before the war it does not prove in any way that the holocaust did not happen.
You have lost this argument. Continued postings here will only continue to make you look like a fanatic, and I will be along eventually do destroy any fallacious arguments you come up with.
Now for some pie.
Holy crap, did you read what you just quoted? You just supported the argument against you. Abraham Foxman here is saying that the Nazis didn't all sit down and draw up a master document titled the 'Final Solution' and send copies to all Nazi party members, but instead their program of genocide developed gradually over many years. The end result of that evolution was the death camps and highly organized human transportation and execution machine they sat within.
Hence, as Foxman says, they didn't just wake up one day and decide to kill all the Jews, they arrived there gradually. This is supported by the Korherr Report, which notes the shift from merely expelling Jews from German territory to actually killing them.
There are several million Jews collecting repairations today even though there were several million who died because they pay the relatives of the slain. The person posting that their grandmother was a prisoner and that her husband and child were killed is a perfect example. The grandmother survived, she is eligible for such reperations if she fights for them. She has children, and all those children are also eligible, possibly even their children. Basically if you execute one man and his family survives, they are all eligible. It is not just survivors collecting this money. Also, it isn't just jews collecting this money.
Of course you claim the Nuremburg documents are fabricated and part of a conspiracy. You will use this excuse for any evidence we present to you, and despite a mountain of evidence contradicting you will continue to believe there was never a Holocaust. Hence, arguing with you is pointless, because you are clearly a fanatic.
So by all means continue to believe the mass murder did not take place despite having every point made proven wrong in this thread, and despite having not a shred of evidence (I have already shot down everything you have posted, your "revisionist" website is not reliable, I wouldn't continue to draw from it).
You have lost the argument and are now resorting to logical fallacies to continue fighting. You have failed. The holocaust happened and your rabid hatred of Zionism will not change this fact. That huge list of dates you just posted, all took place AFTER the holocaust, and even if there were jewish groups engaging in acts of terrorism before the war it does not prove in any way that the holocaust did not happen.
You have lost this argument. Continued postings here will only continue to make you look like a fanatic, and I will be along eventually do destroy any fallacious arguments you come up with.
Now for some pie.
BlazinBlades seemed to understand the post but you didnt. It proved there was no documentation, he blamed it on policies and you think i actually believe that and somehow assert it as true.
YOU lost the arguement because YOUR FACTS are in question and you DENY MY FACTS because its CONVENIENT for you. I didnt lose, you quit.
You cant even argue with me because you tell me all my facts are wrong and all yours are right. (Whos the fanatic?)
And i love your little rant on OYYY VEEYYYYY YOU HATE ZIONISM. and They're eligible for reperations because......i say so!!! even from neutral countries like switzerland!!
Think about it you criticize me for calling nuremberg a farce. So im going to criticize you for calling my sorces a farce.
You're going to keep coming here like you say because its all you know how to do.
The BIG LIE propaganda technique of shouting over me with EMOTION even though i present FACTS that YOU DENY TO AVOID DISCUSSION.
And then you say "You lose". you are NUTS
Just because you DENY a FACT doesnt mean you've "Shot it down" but nice try crack shot.
Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.
Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.
Okay you must have misunderstood, I am not talking about altered photos, I am not talking about photos altered years later either, I want photos that have been verified as being real that have been tested and prove the holocaust did not happen, because there are plenty of photos that have been verified even by the Germans that prove the Holocaust did happen, I don’t want altered fake ones I don’t want made up ones, I want verified ones from you. And I want verified video footage that proves it did not happen, that is what I want form you, I want things like say reports from US and British army units that moved into those camps and seen what the result was, I want things like that, that are verified that prove the holocaust did not happen, there is plenty of that on the other side that prove it did happen, but I want yours.
Iim not going to insult you're intelligence because you know how to spell you know your grammar and from what i've discerned you are probably an articulate person. But please understand what you are asking of me. Photos of nothing. You are asking for a blank photo. How can a photo of nothing prove nothing happened?
A photo of something proves something happened but the other way around it just doesnt work.
The CIA.gov website verified soviet involvement with the photos i posted. But like i said before Blazin, I can never decide whats true for SURE until i see pope pius XII's records and when later this year the german records are supposed to be unsealed.
But if you want a full length video of what life was like inside a concentration camp. Check this video out. yet again MORE evidence that questions the validity of this event.
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/HitlerianHomily.wmv
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/the_persecution_of_revisionists.wmv
The one on top is larger than on the bottom. Both show video footage inside the camps and they're taking showers (With water not cyanide they'll probably say they switched the pipes or something) playing soccer, orchestra, dancing.
Look whatever just watch them. If you still don't at least recognize there is a doubt about it, Im going to just regard this arguement as an infinite that will go on for eternity.
Well thank you for the compliment English is my 9th langue I speak so I try hard to write well but I do make mistakes at time. I have watched your video and I have to tell you there is nothing there, like what part of verified do you not understand, I am not trying to be mean, I want verified from you not theories and all this nonsense, you see I want things like Pictures that have been verified that prove the Holocaust did not happen, because you see there have been many people who have seen pictures of what happened and have actually managed to match the person who is being murdered in the picture to another picture of their relative and have found out through tracing that that is their relative and since the picture matches of the person what can I tell you. The same for video footage, their have been videos of the dead laying around and relatives have been able to actually match pictures of their relative up with the dead person laying on the ground in the video footage, these types of things and other test have verified photos and video footage, I want the same sort of verification from you for yours that prove the holocaust did not happen. I want verified information from you that is all.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Like i said before the BIG LIE propaganda technique doesnt work with me since i know of it.
You cant deny my facts and expect me to take you seriously.
Oh and what exactly did Herzl mean by that then by the anti semites being their best friend?
I told you my answer to your question already, you denied it but you didnt disprove it. And denying it doesnt count with me. You better do more than just throw down the racist or anti semite label.
Zerogenum - MixMatched BH Carbineer Template of the Gods, Kettemoor PRE CU SWG.
Okay you must have misunderstood, I am not talking about altered photos, I am not talking about photos altered years later either, I want photos that have been verified as being real that have been tested and prove the holocaust did not happen, because there are plenty of photos that have been verified even by the Germans that prove the Holocaust did happen, I don’t want altered fake ones I don’t want made up ones, I want verified ones from you. And I want verified video footage that proves it did not happen, that is what I want form you, I want things like say reports from US and British army units that moved into those camps and seen what the result was, I want things like that, that are verified that prove the holocaust did not happen, there is plenty of that on the other side that prove it did happen, but I want yours.
Iim not going to insult you're intelligence because you know how to spell you know your grammar and from what i've discerned you are probably an articulate person. But please understand what you are asking of me. Photos of nothing. You are asking for a blank photo. How can a photo of nothing prove nothing happened?
A photo of something proves something happened but the other way around it just doesnt work.
The CIA.gov website verified soviet involvement with the photos i posted. But like i said before Blazin, I can never decide whats true for SURE until i see pope pius XII's records and when later this year the german records are supposed to be unsealed.
But if you want a full length video of what life was like inside a concentration camp. Check this video out. yet again MORE evidence that questions the validity of this event.
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/HitlerianHomily.wmv
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/the_persecution_of_revisionists.wmv
The one on top is larger than on the bottom. Both show video footage inside the camps and they're taking showers (With water not cyanide they'll probably say they switched the pipes or something) playing soccer, orchestra, dancing.
Look whatever just watch them. If you still don't at least recognize there is a doubt about it, Im going to just regard this arguement as an infinite that will go on for eternity.
Well thank you for the compliment English is my 9th langue I speak so I try hard to write well but I do make mistakes at time. I have watched your video and I have to tell you there is nothing there, like what part of verified do you not understand, I am not trying to be mean, I want verified from you not theories and all this nonsense, you see I want things like Pictures that have been verified that prove the Holocaust did not happen, because you see there have been many people who have seen pictures of what happened and have actually managed to match the person who is being murdered in the picture to another picture of their relative and have found out through tracing that that is their relative and since the picture matches of the person what can I tell you. The same for video footage, their have been videos of the dead laying around and relatives have been able to actually match pictures of their relative up with the dead person laying on the ground in the video footage, these types of things and other test have verified photos and video footage, I want the same sort of verification from you for yours that prove the holocaust did not happen. I want verified information from you that is all.
The word of an eyewitness especially in this scenario wasnt enough for me. I think we should postpone this until the records are unsealed. I regret i cant muster up perfect evidence, but the vatican and germans have sealed it.
But this is a subject to which all western nations have been reduced to puppet states and are having billions siphoned off for reparations. I would really really like proof of it happening before damning my fellow europeans.
Right now I'm satisfied with saying I dont know if it did or didnt happen. But with my evidence im leaning towards no, but im open to anything since the sealed evidence and all that.
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