Originally posted by havocthefirs To everyone who is whining about keeping to the lore of the book/movie, what would be the point? All you would get is a game where we all know exactly what and where to go, who does what, blah, blah, blah. All you would have is a stand alone game where everyone knows the ending.
We want walk around in Middle Earth, experince the lanscapes, places and events that were covered and not covered so well in the book. I dont whant Orcs all over the Shire, nor do I want thousands of wizards running around, nor do I want to run in and kill the Balrog infront of the eyes of Gandalf. There are so many sidestories they can cover and make up without actually interfering with the lore. I hope they do.
You're not getting it. Lore is not the same as story. We aren't talking about playing the Fellowship. We're talking about playing Middle Earth. We want to play IN Middle Earth, no some twisted version of it.
And please don't say we're whining. It's condescending and insulting and none of us have done anything to deserve that kind of treatment.
Originally posted by nthnaoun Originally posted by havocthefirs The problem with pvp games isnt that there is a lack of them its that the pvp has no meaning. The only way pvp has any meaning is from full looting. I dont mean just open pvp either, I mean when guilds declare war on other guilds they can loot each other. Anyone not in a war guild could not even be attacked so as not to ruin a pve'rs game expierence.
Why does full looting equal meaningful PvP? I played meaningful PvP games like DAoC and there wasn't any looting. We found meaning behind defending our realm. You had Castles to defend and take, that can actually be razed. Controlling these actually has an impact on the PvE part of the game. It also controls who has access to Darkness Falls, a PvP dungeon.
Full loot is just a money sink and a well designed MMO that implements a good economy system does not need a money sink. Besides, if you've played UO and other full loot games, no one runs around with special gear on. They just run around in crafted gear that are a dime a dozen.
Look at it this way buddy, UO is the 2nd oldest online game there is and still has a thriving economy. The reason is because not only is your stuff looted in pvp but also if you die to a monster they will also loot. In fact no other games economy comes close and the only difference, you guessed it full looting.
If you enjoy a dead economy after 9 months then by all means no looting. I hope you dont like crafting because there will be no need in a game without looting.
Originally posted by Beldwyn Originally posted by havocthefirs Originally posted by Moirae Originally posted by havocthefirs The problem with pvp games isnt that there is a lack of them its that the pvp has no meaning. The only way pvp has any meaning is from full looting. I dont mean just open pvp either, I mean when guilds declare war on other guilds they can loot each other. Anyone not in a war guild could not even be attacked so as not to ruin a pve'rs game expierence.
No, the problem is not the "no meaning". The problem is the people that participate. The ganking, the corpse camping, the theft, the leetspeakers that like to brag themselves up. The problem is the behavior that it initiates. Yes, some people are well behaved. The problem is that they are a minority of PvP'rs.
The problem has nothing at all to do with whether the PvP has meaning or not. Did you honestly think the reason I loath PvP is because it has no meaning? Come on now, think a little.
I was'nt responding to anything you said at all I was stating my own opinion, I'm afraid whatever you wrote did'nt seem particlarly interesting enough to read, but since your ranting at my post for some reason I will reply.
If your dumb enough to get ressed and run back to your corpse that you know has already been looted you deserve to get wacked again. As far as leetspeakers as you call them (I'm afraid I dont speak leet), if a few bad words from a 12 year old gets your panties ina bunch well thats just a sign of your own insecurites.
Finally I made it perfectly clear to avoid being traumatized by the nasty pvpers just dont join a war guild and you can blissfully go your merry way.
And be forced to live the smack talking, constant nerfing, having the devs focus more on the never satisfied PvP crowd than to add real content to the game etc.
You would'nt be involved in the smack talk or the nerfing. The devs always cater to the carebears who are you kidding. Content is what you make of the game. Best game of all time hands down was UO in its heyday, BEFORE the carebears ruined it with item insurance because they whined just like you are that they did'nt want to lose any of their precious equipment.
A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man just once, which are you?
Originally posted by Moirae You're not getting it. Lore is not the same as story. We aren't talking about playing the Fellowship. We're talking about playing Middle Earth. We want to play IN Middle Earth, no some twisted version of it.
And please don't say we're whining. It's condescending and insulting and none of us have done anything to deserve that kind of treatment.
Originally posted by havocthefirs Originally posted by Moirae You're not getting it. Lore is not the same as story. We aren't talking about playing the Fellowship. We're talking about playing Middle Earth. We want to play IN Middle Earth, no some twisted version of it.
And please don't say we're whining. It's condescending and insulting and none of us have done anything to deserve that kind of treatment.
Originally posted by Moirae Originally posted by havocthefirs Originally posted by Moirae You're not getting it. Lore is not the same as story. We aren't talking about playing the Fellowship. We're talking about playing Middle Earth. We want to play IN Middle Earth, no some twisted version of it.
And please don't say we're whining. It's condescending and insulting and none of us have done anything to deserve that kind of treatment.
Originally posted by havocthefirs Originally posted by Beldwyn Originally posted by havocthefirs Originally posted by Moirae Originally posted by havocthefirs The problem with pvp games isnt that there is a lack of them its that the pvp has no meaning. The only way pvp has any meaning is from full looting. I dont mean just open pvp either, I mean when guilds declare war on other guilds they can loot each other. Anyone not in a war guild could not even be attacked so as not to ruin a pve'rs game expierence.
No, the problem is not the "no meaning". The problem is the people that participate. The ganking, the corpse camping, the theft, the leetspeakers that like to brag themselves up. The problem is the behavior that it initiates. Yes, some people are well behaved. The problem is that they are a minority of PvP'rs.
The problem has nothing at all to do with whether the PvP has meaning or not. Did you honestly think the reason I loath PvP is because it has no meaning? Come on now, think a little.
I was'nt responding to anything you said at all I was stating my own opinion, I'm afraid whatever you wrote did'nt seem particlarly interesting enough to read, but since your ranting at my post for some reason I will reply.
If your dumb enough to get ressed and run back to your corpse that you know has already been looted you deserve to get wacked again. As far as leetspeakers as you call them (I'm afraid I dont speak leet), if a few bad words from a 12 year old gets your panties ina bunch well thats just a sign of your own insecurites.
Finally I made it perfectly clear to avoid being traumatized by the nasty pvpers just dont join a war guild and you can blissfully go your merry way.
And be forced to live the smack talking, constant nerfing, having the devs focus more on the never satisfied PvP crowd than to add real content to the game etc.
You would'nt be involved in the smack talk or the nerfing. The devs always cater to the carebears who are you kidding. Content is what you make of the game. Best game of all time hands down was UO in its heyday, BEFORE the carebears ruined it with item insurance because they whined just like you are that they did'nt want to lose any of their precious equipment.
A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man just once, which are you?
Carebears dont ruin games, nor did they ruin UO. Griefers, exoliters and gankers were the source of UO's undoing.
Originally posted by Bama1267 Originally posted by havocthefirs Originally posted by Beldwyn Originally posted by havocthefirs Originally posted by Moirae Originally posted by havocthefirs The problem with pvp games isnt that there is a lack of them its that the pvp has no meaning. The only way pvp has any meaning is from full looting. I dont mean just open pvp either, I mean when guilds declare war on other guilds they can loot each other. Anyone not in a war guild could not even be attacked so as not to ruin a pve'rs game expierence.
No, the problem is not the "no meaning". The problem is the people that participate. The ganking, the corpse camping, the theft, the leetspeakers that like to brag themselves up. The problem is the behavior that it initiates. Yes, some people are well behaved. The problem is that they are a minority of PvP'rs.
The problem has nothing at all to do with whether the PvP has meaning or not. Did you honestly think the reason I loath PvP is because it has no meaning? Come on now, think a little.
I was'nt responding to anything you said at all I was stating my own opinion, I'm afraid whatever you wrote did'nt seem particlarly interesting enough to read, but since your ranting at my post for some reason I will reply.
If your dumb enough to get ressed and run back to your corpse that you know has already been looted you deserve to get wacked again. As far as leetspeakers as you call them (I'm afraid I dont speak leet), if a few bad words from a 12 year old gets your panties ina bunch well thats just a sign of your own insecurites.
Finally I made it perfectly clear to avoid being traumatized by the nasty pvpers just dont join a war guild and you can blissfully go your merry way.
And be forced to live the smack talking, constant nerfing, having the devs focus more on the never satisfied PvP crowd than to add real content to the game etc.
You would'nt be involved in the smack talk or the nerfing. The devs always cater to the carebears who are you kidding. Content is what you make of the game. Best game of all time hands down was UO in its heyday, BEFORE the carebears ruined it with item insurance because they whined just like you are that they did'nt want to lose any of their precious equipment.
A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man just once, which are you?
Carebears dont ruin games, nor did they ruin UO. Griefers, exoliters and gankers were the source of UO's undoing.
yup seems to me that carebears just left the game so the gankers had no one to pick on thats what ruined the game.... with out us carebears you guys have nothing to do.... there is no easy equiment to gank no one doing the quest your to lazy to do for the great items so you can just steal them... dont me mad that we just got tired of it and found other games to play
I'm sorry to say this, Turbin has no clue how to make a MMORPG. Atleast not lately. If you can't see this as a desperate attempt to have PvP in the game, then you will probably enjoy the shallow, hollow of a linear MMORPG that this game will become.
It's sad, because I think they have some good developers at Turbine.
Originally posted by dimaryp I'm sorry to say this, Turbin has no clue how to make a MMORPG. Atleast not lately. If you can't see this as a desperate attempt to have PvP in the game, then you will probably enjoy the shallow, hollow of a linear MMORPG that this game will become. It's sad, because I think they have some good developers at Turbine.
so in your opinion which games companies are competent.
Since this isn't a concept I'd have thought of, I think I'll wait and see how it plays out before I pass judgement. None of us can really slag it off until we try it since as far as I'm aware its a first. Since the game will hopefully attract a majority of Tolkien fans rather than pvpers it may even be fun.
Originally posted by nthnaoun Originally posted by vivatma Depending on how they implement the storyline into the context of the game. This could be very boring, or not follow the storyline. One of those two is what i'm most worried about. Although with enough innovation, it may just be what every Tolkien fan always dreamed.
Another question is, what do they do, after the story has been told? What is the end-game going to be like... Will they make up their own tales? Or just make you endlessly search for better gear and more money?
Once the story is told, the game is over. You then find another game. MMORPG's are not meant to last forever. By the time they release every expansion and finish the LOTR story, years would have passed already and people will most likely flock to other games anyways. The remainder will just have to pack up and leave. Like I said, MMORPG's are not meant to last forever. Actually, I don't think any MMO Game Dev ever created an MMO with an ending in mind. It's not suppose to have an ending. That would be like starting a business and going, i'm going to shut down in this many years....
It just doesn't happen, they are always thinking about the longevity of an Online game. EverQuest will still be online for a couple more years, because they still have players willing to pay. If the EQ devs had made the storyline end in 5 years, they would have lost money by now.
Thus, the storyline may progress through expansions ect, however i'm thinking it will either be told in a steady stream or done so slowly that by the time they have told 75% (a complete guess) of the story no one wants to play there outdated game anymore.
I have mixed feelings. I believe that monster play is a good substitute to pvp. But i do think it kills immersion. I believe that Turbine will not release a LOTRO expansion for a long time. When they do however, they will add evil races (orcs, Uruk-hai, possibly trolls). Turbine may release a smaller expantion first which has mounts, housing ect.
Originally posted by poobla I have mixed feelings. I believe that monster play is a good substitute to pvp. But i do think it kills immersion. I believe that Turbine will not release a LOTRO expansion for a long time. When they do however, they will add evil races (orcs, Uruk-hai, possibly trolls). Turbine may release a smaller expantion first which has mounts, housing ect.
I'm starting to give up on the idea of immersion. These company's don't care about it at all. I'm almost to the point where I'd rather go back to playing TT games. The immersion exists more there than it does in MMO's.
Originally posted by Moirae Originally posted by poobla I have mixed feelings. I believe that monster play is a good substitute to pvp. But i do think it kills immersion. I believe that Turbine will not release a LOTRO expansion for a long time. When they do however, they will add evil races (orcs, Uruk-hai, possibly trolls). Turbine may release a smaller expantion first which has mounts, housing ect.
I'm starting to give up on the idea of immersion. These company's don't care about it at all. I'm almost to the point where I'd rather go back to playing TT games. The immersion exists more there than it does in MMO's.
Join the club. I don't even refer to these as MMORPGs anymore because the group of people that were playing around, oh UO's launch were fresh out of MUDing and actually enjoyed RPing. From EQ forward more of the console/Doom crowd started filtering in bringing more and more of the crowd that made fun of us DnD playing types that it sucked the life out of the genre.
Nah, not until an independently wealthy group/individual comes along and makes a MMORPG and takes the stance "You either learn about the cultures in our game and roleplay someone from that culture or don't play our game", I doubt there will be a gave that gives that true immersion feeling.
The great thing about a game like that is, who cares about people whining about having to be in character?! The game is funded by an independently wealthy group. They're doing for the love of the genre and not some publisher's bottom line.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Originally posted by dimaryp I'm sorry to say this, Turbin has no clue how to make a MMORPG. Atleast not lately. If you can't see this as a desperate attempt to have PvP in the game, then you will probably enjoy the shallow, hollow of a linear MMORPG that this game will become. It's sad, because I think they have some good developers at Turbine.
so in your opinion which games companies are competent.
Honestly, none. It's hard to say what, but every MMORPG is missing something. Maybe I'm getting too jaded in my old age.
Originally posted by Domenicus I think that Turbine has proven that they *really* dont know what a player want. Now to make PvP you need to transform yourself in a ....'monster'? Well, I am not even start to mention how short-sighted it is to call Orcs, Trolls, etc... 'monsters''' in a complex world like Tolkien's reakm. And EVERY PvPer like to play his character, to test it against others, I do not want to became a 'monster' to PvP. I want my Elf, my Dwarf, to fight on PvP...
Is there any way to get the wonderful Tolkien world out of turbine's hand?
How is it short-sighted to call them monsters? Despite the fact that they are all, indeed, monsters (in every sense of the word), if they weren't, it still wouldn't fit under any meaning of the term "short-sighted." My advice: graduate from elementary school before you seriously critique any form of media.
Aside from your lackings in the field of the English language, it is laughable to suggest you know Tolkien's world better than Turbine, when you desire a bloody skirmish between members of the Free Peoples of Middle-Earth.
1.Ok i can't really say a lot about the whole monster thing, becasue i haven't thourghly researched it, but when in the books did Aragorn, Legolas, Gimili, Frodo, Samwise, Both greay and white Gandalf, Borimir, Farimir, Merry, Pippen, and everyone else battle as monsters.
2. About the battles among free people of middle earth, there r no rangers in t his game so no aragorn, so no king. So who knows.
3. I highly doubt that all of the people at turbine read all four books or even the main 3. Of course i cld easily be wrong.
4. Just y, y are they doing this to such a great story, y make a mmorpg, its fine as it is, and if u hav to make it follow the books almost to perfection(chracter wise and land ) Its just so tantalizing to think of what this game could be.
5. I hav my opinion and u won't be able to change it. Insults nor actionw ill change it.
Originally posted by Vrael231 1.Ok i can't really say a lot about the whole monster thing, becasue i haven't thourghly researched it, but when in the books did Aragorn, Legolas, Gimili, Frodo, Samwise, Both greay and white Gandalf, Borimir, Farimir, Merry, Pippen, and everyone else battle as monsters. And when did they fight each other in a gankfest? Or even Duel each other to "prove their skillz"? 2. About the battles among free people of middle earth, there r no rangers in t his game so no aragorn, so no king. So who knows. At the time Turbine is setting the game the Free Peoples aren't fighting each. Their fighting the forces of the Dark Lord. Aragorn is in the game as well as the rest of the Fellowship. 3. I highly doubt that all of the people at turbine read all four books or even the main 3. Of course i cld easily be wrong. You are, but it's ok. We all are at some point. Also, Turbine has a team devoted to knowing the lore. That said, how you interpret the lore and how the next guy does may vary on certain things. Neither of you is necessarily wrong and it's perfectly ok to not agree with their interpretation. You're the consumer. You don't have to buy their interpretation. 4. Just y, y are they doing this to such a great story, y make a mmorpg, its fine as it is, and if u hav to make it follow the books almost to perfection(chracter wise and land ) Its just so tantalizing to think of what this game could be. Again, it's their interpretation which is closely monitored by those who own the Lord of the Rings license. Evidently those that own the license don't have an issue with what they are doing or else they would have told them they can't do it. Yes, they really do have that kind of power when it comes to this license. 5. I hav my opinion and u won't be able to change it. Insults nor actionw ill change it. Exactly. I know I personally don't intend to change anyone's opinion on any message board. That said, those that flaunt their opinion as fact need to realize their opinion doesn't determine the fate of a game. The monster play feature of this game may not measure up to the standards of some of the "hard core" PvPers out there, but that in no way means it will fail. There are plenty of people out there that will enjoy it. As evidence in this thread and on every forum there are people out there that just think "Me, me, me" and if they don't like it than how can it possibly be any good. They need a cold dose of reality that not everyone thinks like them or likes what they like and that because they personally don't like it doesn't guarantee it will flop. One of the speakers at the Austin Gaming Conference made a speech about the stagnation in the MMOG genre (it may have been gaming all-inclusive, I can't remember) in that continuing to make games cookie-cutter from the current stock of games will only be to the detriment of this genre. They are right. While maybe not making drastic changes, new takes on different systems need to happen or else MMOGs will suffer from a form of in-breeding. If you don't know the ramifications of that, watch the movie Deliverence. Please note that while I quote your post I am not directing anything harsh or inflamatory at you. We're just talking.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
This Monster System might actually have some good perks. I don't agree with anyone who thinks it is plain stupid but it sounds like a good alternative when your bored using the same character over and over.....
ALso with the so called "monster points" i doubt u wont be able to get the perks they give u in just your regular mode for all the ppl who think it is stupid.
Plus who WOULDN'T WANT TO TURN INTO A MAD UGLY TROLL AND WHIP THE LIVING SNOT OUT OF SOME RUNAWAY DWARF!!!!!!!
Its just all about loving the whole idea of Lord of the Rings and how JRR Tolkien created it:
NOt How Elves are jumping out of trees in hobbitton mass murdering hobbits.
I absolutely love everything about LOTR and mabye many of the games could use some work but combining it with an mmorpg could have unexpected results. Hopefully good ones.
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And please don't say we're whining. It's condescending and insulting and none of us have done anything to deserve that kind of treatment.
Why does full looting equal meaningful PvP? I played meaningful PvP games like DAoC and there wasn't any looting. We found meaning behind defending our realm. You had Castles to defend and take, that can actually be razed. Controlling these actually has an impact on the PvE part of the game. It also controls who has access to Darkness Falls, a PvP dungeon.
Full loot is just a money sink and a well designed MMO that implements a good economy system does not need a money sink. Besides, if you've played UO and other full loot games, no one runs around with special gear on. They just run around in crafted gear that are a dime a dozen.
Look at it this way buddy, UO is the 2nd oldest online game there is and still has a thriving economy. The reason is because not only is your stuff looted in pvp but also if you die to a monster they will also loot. In fact no other games economy comes close and the only difference, you guessed it full looting.
If you enjoy a dead economy after 9 months then by all means no looting. I hope you dont like crafting because there will be no need in a game without looting.
The problem has nothing at all to do with whether the PvP has meaning or not. Did you honestly think the reason I loath PvP is because it has no meaning? Come on now, think a little.
I was'nt responding to anything you said at all I was stating my own opinion, I'm afraid whatever you wrote did'nt seem particlarly interesting enough to read, but since your ranting at my post for some reason I will reply.
If your dumb enough to get ressed and run back to your corpse that you know has already been looted you deserve to get wacked again. As far as leetspeakers as you call them (I'm afraid I dont speak leet), if a few bad words from a 12 year old gets your panties ina bunch well thats just a sign of your own insecurites.
Finally I made it perfectly clear to avoid being traumatized by the nasty pvpers just dont join a war guild and you can blissfully go your merry way.
And be forced to live the smack talking, constant nerfing, having the devs focus more on the never satisfied PvP crowd than to add real content to the game etc.
You would'nt be involved in the smack talk or the nerfing. The devs always cater to the carebears who are you kidding. Content is what you make of the game. Best game of all time hands down was UO in its heyday, BEFORE the carebears ruined it with item insurance because they whined just like you are that they did'nt want to lose any of their precious equipment.
A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man just once, which are you?
Agreed Moirae
The problem has nothing at all to do with whether the PvP has meaning or not. Did you honestly think the reason I loath PvP is because it has no meaning? Come on now, think a little.
I was'nt responding to anything you said at all I was stating my own opinion, I'm afraid whatever you wrote did'nt seem particlarly interesting enough to read, but since your ranting at my post for some reason I will reply.
If your dumb enough to get ressed and run back to your corpse that you know has already been looted you deserve to get wacked again. As far as leetspeakers as you call them (I'm afraid I dont speak leet), if a few bad words from a 12 year old gets your panties ina bunch well thats just a sign of your own insecurites.
Finally I made it perfectly clear to avoid being traumatized by the nasty pvpers just dont join a war guild and you can blissfully go your merry way.
And be forced to live the smack talking, constant nerfing, having the devs focus more on the never satisfied PvP crowd than to add real content to the game etc.
You would'nt be involved in the smack talk or the nerfing. The devs always cater to the carebears who are you kidding. Content is what you make of the game. Best game of all time hands down was UO in its heyday, BEFORE the carebears ruined it with item insurance because they whined just like you are that they did'nt want to lose any of their precious equipment.
A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man just once, which are you?
Carebears dont ruin games, nor did they ruin UO. Griefers, exoliters and gankers were the source of UO's undoing.
The problem has nothing at all to do with whether the PvP has meaning or not. Did you honestly think the reason I loath PvP is because it has no meaning? Come on now, think a little.
I was'nt responding to anything you said at all I was stating my own opinion, I'm afraid whatever you wrote did'nt seem particlarly interesting enough to read, but since your ranting at my post for some reason I will reply.
If your dumb enough to get ressed and run back to your corpse that you know has already been looted you deserve to get wacked again. As far as leetspeakers as you call them (I'm afraid I dont speak leet), if a few bad words from a 12 year old gets your panties ina bunch well thats just a sign of your own insecurites.
Finally I made it perfectly clear to avoid being traumatized by the nasty pvpers just dont join a war guild and you can blissfully go your merry way.
And be forced to live the smack talking, constant nerfing, having the devs focus more on the never satisfied PvP crowd than to add real content to the game etc.
You would'nt be involved in the smack talk or the nerfing. The devs always cater to the carebears who are you kidding. Content is what you make of the game. Best game of all time hands down was UO in its heyday, BEFORE the carebears ruined it with item insurance because they whined just like you are that they did'nt want to lose any of their precious equipment.
A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man just once, which are you?
Carebears dont ruin games, nor did they ruin UO. Griefers, exoliters and gankers were the source of UO's undoing.
yup seems to me that carebears just left the game so the gankers had no one to pick on thats what ruined the game.... with out us carebears you guys have nothing to do.... there is no easy equiment to gank no one doing the quest your to lazy to do for the great items so you can just steal them... dont me mad that we just got tired of it and found other games to play
It's sad, because I think they have some good developers at Turbine.
so in your opinion which games companies are competent.
I miss DAoC
Since the game will hopefully attract a majority of Tolkien fans rather than pvpers it may even be fun.
Actually, I don't think any MMO Game Dev ever created an MMO with an ending in mind. It's not suppose to have an ending. That would be like starting a business and going, i'm going to shut down in this many years....
It just doesn't happen, they are always thinking about the longevity of an Online game. EverQuest will still be online for a couple more years, because they still have players willing to pay. If the EQ devs had made the storyline end in 5 years, they would have lost money by now.
Thus, the storyline may progress through expansions ect, however i'm thinking it will either be told in a steady stream or done so slowly that by the time they have told 75% (a complete guess) of the story no one wants to play there outdated game anymore.
Join the club. I don't even refer to these as MMORPGs anymore because the group of people that were playing around, oh UO's launch were fresh out of MUDing and actually enjoyed RPing. From EQ forward more of the console/Doom crowd started filtering in bringing more and more of the crowd that made fun of us DnD playing types that it sucked the life out of the genre.
Nah, not until an independently wealthy group/individual comes along and makes a MMORPG and takes the stance "You either learn about the cultures in our game and roleplay someone from that culture or don't play our game", I doubt there will be a gave that gives that true immersion feeling.
The great thing about a game like that is, who cares about people whining about having to be in character?! The game is funded by an independently wealthy group. They're doing for the love of the genre and not some publisher's bottom line.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
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so in your opinion which games companies are competent.
Honestly, none. It's hard to say what, but every MMORPG is missing something. Maybe I'm getting too jaded in my old age.
Which FF Character Are You?
The shaft of the arrow had been
feathered with one of the eagle''s own plumes. We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction
How is it short-sighted to call them monsters? Despite the fact that they are all, indeed, monsters (in every sense of the word), if they weren't, it still wouldn't fit under any meaning of the term "short-sighted." My advice: graduate from elementary school before you seriously critique any form of media.
Aside from your lackings in the field of the English language, it is laughable to suggest you know Tolkien's world better than Turbine, when you desire a bloody skirmish between members of the Free Peoples of Middle-Earth.
1.Ok i can't really say a lot about the whole monster thing, becasue i haven't thourghly researched it, but when in the books did Aragorn, Legolas, Gimili, Frodo, Samwise, Both greay and white Gandalf, Borimir, Farimir, Merry, Pippen, and everyone else battle as monsters.
2. About the battles among free people of middle earth, there r no rangers in t his game so no aragorn, so no king. So who knows.
3. I highly doubt that all of the people at turbine read all four books or even the main 3. Of course i cld easily be wrong.
4. Just y, y are they doing this to such a great story, y make a mmorpg, its fine as it is, and if u hav to make it follow the books almost to perfection(chracter wise and land ) Its just so tantalizing to think of what this game could be.
5. I hav my opinion and u won't be able to change it. Insults nor actionw ill change it.
Which FF Character Are You?
The shaft of the arrow had been
feathered with one of the eagle''s own plumes. We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
Which FF Character Are You?
The shaft of the arrow had been
feathered with one of the eagle''s own plumes. We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction
This Monster System might actually have some good perks. I don't agree with anyone who thinks it is plain stupid but it sounds like a good alternative when your bored using the same character over and over.....
ALso with the so called "monster points" i doubt u wont be able to get the perks they give u in just your regular mode for all the ppl who think it is stupid.
Plus who WOULDN'T WANT TO TURN INTO A MAD UGLY TROLL AND WHIP THE LIVING SNOT OUT OF SOME RUNAWAY DWARF!!!!!!!
Its just all about loving the whole idea of Lord of the Rings and how JRR Tolkien created it:
NOt How Elves are jumping out of trees in hobbitton mass murdering hobbits.
I absolutely love everything about LOTR and mabye many of the games could use some work but combining it with an mmorpg could have unexpected results. Hopefully good ones.
Only time can tell.