Originally posted by JestorRodo EQ and EQ2? Until SOE sells the games or is bought out, my choice is WoW.
And you think Blizzard is somehow the next coming? They can't keep their forums up or their game. They have the worst PVP rank system ever conceived and god forbid you just want to PVP... raid or die.
I know you're a brainless troll that hates all things SoE but not playing a game because of a publisher is retarded. I bet you hate Sigil too? Did you know some SoE employees work for Blizzard now as well? Better stop playing that... oh, even Bioware hired some old SoE exmployees. Damn, it's an infection! You can't play anything... might as well go back to your console games.
Originally posted by Celestian Originally posted by JestorRodo EQ and EQ2? Until SOE sells the games or is bought out, my choice is WoW.
And you think Blizzard is somehow the next coming? Blizzard is the thing .SOE is in denial , no they are not Smed plays the game and posts on FOH about it They can't keep their forums up or their game and I thought that SWG was science fiction . They have the worst PVP rank system ever conceived and god forbid you just want to PVP... raid or die or like SOE players base, just die.
I know you're a brainless troll (No, you don't know anything - You are a loyal SOE customer) that hates all things SoE but not playing a game because of a publisher is retarded ( even I need furthur explaintion of that thought). I bet you hate Sigil too ( nope Sigil is paying SOE to be is Mailroom boy - great utilization oF SOE!) Did you know some SoE employees work for Blizzard now as well? (they wised up maybe you should too! Better stop playing that... oh, even Bioware hired some old SoE exmployees Rats jumping a sinking ship - wise rats. Damn, it's an infection! You can't play anything... might as well go back to your console games Back to console? - console is for kiddie. SOE is working on PSP and PS3 because they have fail to maintain their MMO business, why? .
Originally posted by JestorRodo They can't keep their forums up or their game and I thought that SWG was science fiction .
Um, you did know their forums were down for 2 days right? And even now I cannot login to them to post. Who is in denial now?
They have the worst PVP rank system ever conceived and god forbid you just want to PVP... raid or die or like SOE players base, just die.
I need more explanation of your thoughts or lack of.
I know you're a brainless troll (No, you don't know anything - You are a loyal SOE customer)
I know exactly who you are. I see your posts repeatedly slamming all things SoE because of whatever they did to "your" SWG. Well get over it. The games changed for better or worse. Think all those people that started EQ1 liked all the changes as the game progressed? Hell No! What about WoW at release and WoW now... it's almost just as different.
I've seen how they have improved from the days of EQ1 to present day EQ2. I play EQ2 and WoW. Oh no, can it possibly be, will the world explode when I play them at the same time or something? If I didn't like what I had seen and stopped playing I wouldn't bother having this unhealthy obsession posting in every possible forum about how the big bad SoE is gonna eat all our babies. I'd get on with my life and find a game I DID like... You and the 4-5 other SWG haters need to grow up and do the same.
Did you know some SoE employees work for Blizzard now as well? (they wised up maybe you should too! Better stop playing that... oh, even Bioware hired some old SoE exmployees Rats jumping a sinking ship - wise rats.
You know almost all the key developers for Blizzard left right? Oh no... sinking ship! Same logic, or lack of.
I know you won't understand it but really, move on.
Originally posted by JestorRodo They have the worst PVP rank system ever conceived and god forbid you just want to PVP... raid or die or like SOE players base, just die.
I need more explanation of your thoughts or lack of.
let me show you then http://www.mmorpgchart.com/Chart2.html 325k to 180k , EQ2 numbers are indeed falling like all SOE's MMOS. The bands plays continues to play after the good ship SOE hits the WoW iceberg . Enjoy your dance.
I started a new character at 11:00 Sunday night, and even that late the PvP servers and every single PvE server but one was in the red. In fact all the PvP servers *and* the expanded PvE servers all reach high load every single night.
WoW on the other hand looks to be bleeding players like mad in the NA market, and stalling in the European market. The $1 per month they get from their 5 million Chinese subscribers does not offset these losses. Most veteran MMO players have tired of Blizzards bait and switch lied and it’s showing in their NA server populations.
Before WoW market analysed believed that the online game market would never get a customer base higher than 500k, Everquest was concidered a roaring success. So much so that a little company called Blizzard decided it was worth their while to create their own MMO.
Without Everquest there would be no WoW.
Madonna can sell millions of records, but just because I only make enough to cover my lifestyle from playing sessions doesn't mean I'm a failure.
Originally posted by Delameko Before WoW market analysed believed that the online game market would never get a customer base higher than 500k, Everquest was concidered a roaring success. So much so that a little company called Blizzard decided it was worth their while to create their own MMO.
Without Everquest there would be no WoW.
Madonna can sell millions of records, but just because I only make enough to cover my lifestyle from playing sessions doesn't mean I'm a failure.
Not true, most market analysts expected SWG to hit 1 million subscribers and several Asian games had multiple millions of subscribers long before WoW was released. WoW did two things that were different, first it succeeded in both the North American and Asian markets. Asia always brings in more total subscribers while North America always brings in more total dollars. In North America Blizzard is no bigger then SOE at it’s peak and in Asia Blizzard is no bigger then NCSoft at it’s peak. The second big thing WoW did was breakthrough in Europe, which hadn’t had a major hit prior to WoW.
Blizzard is not a "little company" it's part of Vivendi Universal’s games division, and VU is one of the largest entertainment conglomerates in the world. Since neither report their earnings independently it isn’t really accurate to call either Blizzard or SOE a company since neither has any independent status.
Originally posted by lomiller Originally posted by Delameko Before WoW market analysed believed that the online game market would never get a customer base higher than 500k, Everquest was concidered a roaring success. So much so that a little company called Blizzard decided it was worth their while to create their own MMO.
Without Everquest there would be no WoW.
Madonna can sell millions of records, but just because I only make enough to cover my lifestyle from playing sessions doesn't mean I'm a failure.
Not true, most market analysts expected SWG to hit 1 million subscribers and several Asian games had multiple millions of subscribers long before WoW was released. WoW did two things that were different, first it succeeded in both the North American and Asian markets. Asia always brings in more total subscribers while North America always brings in more total dollars. In North America Blizzard is no bigger then SOE at it’s peak and in Asia Blizzard is no bigger then NCSoft at it’s peak. The second big thing WoW did was breakthrough in Europe, which hadn’t had a major hit prior to WoW.
Blizzard is not a "little company" it's part of Vivendi Universal’s games division, and VU is one of the largest entertainment conglomerates in the world. Since neither report their earnings independently it isn’t really accurate to call either Blizzard or SOE a company since neither has any independent status.
I didn't mean just before WoW. I meant before WoW was even a concept. it was an article I read back in the day that said MMOs would be a niche market and unlikely to break Everquests subscriber base, even SWG never broke 500k, so up to a point it was correct. I've just been searching google for the article and I can't find it, so I guess I have nothing to back it up.
I know how big WoW/Blizzard is. "Little company" was just me being ironic.
Of all the MMO's I've ever played, I have maintained my subscription to EQ2 the longest. I have been playing it since two days after it came out. EQ2 had a bit of a rocky start but it has changed considerably. And each patch they do it just keeps getting better. DAoC is my favorite MMO, but I would recommend EQ2 over it right now, simply because DAoC's population is so low. But I never have trouble finding a group in EQ2. Give me 10 mins from logging in and come check and I guarantee you I will have a group in EQ2 doing something fun and different each time. There is a lot to do, cool people to play with, nice quests, and it looks kick ass as well.
I hope you start playing. You're going to love it, I'm sure.
Originally posted by grinreaper To the OP: EQ2 is a good game, still...but if they keep dumbing it down, it is going to start sucking. Jestor, buddy: Much as I aknowladge the SOE hate...you pick WoW WoW is nothing more that a finely polished turd supported by a few million Bnet kiddies and 4 million asian gold farmers. Oh, yeah, and it has set back MMOG's by like 10 years.
Originally posted by reavo Of all the MMO's I've ever played, I have maintained my subscription to EQ2 the longest. I have been playing it since two days after it came out. EQ2 had a bit of a rocky start but it has changed considerably. And each patch they do it just keeps getting better. DAoC is my favorite MMO, but I would recommend EQ2 over it right now, simply because DAoC's population is so low. But I never have trouble finding a group in EQ2. Give me 10 mins from logging in and come check and I guarantee you I will have a group in EQ2 doing something fun and different each time. There is a lot to do, cool people to play with, nice quests, and it looks kick ass as well. I hope you start playing. You're going to love it, I'm sure.
yeah its seems really fun to play! only problem is when i play it keeps pupping up there ATI recovery things, or whatever it is, havent really checked what it is yet, think its has something with my graphic card to do...
Originally posted by Moirae sacred, you can't control what people are talking about, not even in your own thread. Welcome to the way the internet works.
Originally posted by JestorRodo Wrong , SOE picked WoW for me . Read my blog http://blog.myspace.com/lovethatjestor Repeating my story has been done here so many times I had to blog on myspace.
No one cares about your blog or your propaganda. Quoting the mmogchart site just goes to show how little you really know about anything.
The fact is you can't let go of SoE games because of some mis-perceived idea that they cheated you. Well as I said before many of those folks work for Blizzard. Infact the worst part of WoW (the end game) has been created by EQ1 lovers.
You are just hypocritical and need to give it up. You're acting like a child that is throwing a fit and won't stop.
EQ2 is now probably one of the best mmos around... yeah Blizzard's fans keep upping their numbers (notice how even blizzard isn't saying they got 7 million but everyone else is?) Don't get me wrong, I play EQ2 and WoW but your grudge against soe is pointless.
Good luck with your crusade to single handedly take down SoE. I am sure the guys in the white coats will comfort you.
Originally posted by Celestian Originally posted by JestorRodo Wrong , SOE picked WoW for me . Read my blog http://blog.myspace.com/lovethatjestor Repeating my story has been done here so many times I had to blog on myspace.
No one cares about your blog or your propaganda. Quoting the mmogchart site just goes to show how little you really know about anything.
The fact is you can't let go of SoE games because of some mis-perceived idea that they cheated you. Well as I said before many of those folks work for Blizzard. Infact the worst part of WoW (the end game) has been created by EQ1 lovers.
You are just hypocritical and need to give it up. You're acting like a child that is throwing a fit and won't stop.
EQ2 is now probably one of the best mmos around... yeah Blizzard's fans keep upping their numbers (notice how even blizzard isn't saying they got 7 million but everyone else is?) Don't get me wrong, I play EQ2 and WoW but your grudge against soe is pointless.
Good luck with your crusade to single handedly take down SoE. I am sure the guys in the white coats will comfort you.
Thanks ,But I am not alone ,it smore like Nobodies cares about my blog or my truth.
IF there are need for any white coats needed here, its for the MMO abuse handed out by SOE.
If you have a problem with me go talk to SOE about it. I am Prema banned and that is quite liberating.
Originally posted by JestorRodo Originally posted by Celestian Originally posted by JestorRodo Wrong , SOE picked WoW for me . Read my blog http://blog.myspace.com/lovethatjestor Repeating my story has been done here so many times I had to blog on myspace.
No one cares about your blog or your propaganda. Quoting the mmogchart site just goes to show how little you really know about anything.
The fact is you can't let go of SoE games because of some mis-perceived idea that they cheated you. Well as I said before many of those folks work for Blizzard. Infact the worst part of WoW (the end game) has been created by EQ1 lovers.
You are just hypocritical and need to give it up. You're acting like a child that is throwing a fit and won't stop.
EQ2 is now probably one of the best mmos around... yeah Blizzard's fans keep upping their numbers (notice how even blizzard isn't saying they got 7 million but everyone else is?) Don't get me wrong, I play EQ2 and WoW but your grudge against soe is pointless.
Good luck with your crusade to single handedly take down SoE. I am sure the guys in the white coats will comfort you.
Thanks ,But I am not alone ,it smore like Nobodies cares about my blog or my truth.
IF there are need for any white coats needed here, its for the MMO abuse handed out by SOE.
If you have a problem with me go talk to SOE about it. I am Prema banned and that is quite liberating.
I read your blog and you just come off sounding petty and immature. You've been burned, you clearly still want to play SWG, but you've only got yourself to blame for been antagonistic on the forums. Let. It. Go.
And if you think SOE is the only company to change their TOS you may want to take a closer look at WoW, as theirs has been changed numerous times...
Originally posted by Delameko Originally posted by JestorRodo Originally posted by Celestian Originally posted by JestorRodo Wrong , SOE picked WoW for me . Read my blog http://blog.myspace.com/lovethatjestor Repeating my story has been done here so many times I had to blog on myspace.
No one cares about your blog or your propaganda. Quoting the mmogchart site just goes to show how little you really know about anything.
The fact is you can't let go of SoE games because of some mis-perceived idea that they cheated you. Well as I said before many of those folks work for Blizzard. Infact the worst part of WoW (the end game) has been created by EQ1 lovers.
You are just hypocritical and need to give it up. You're acting like a child that is throwing a fit and won't stop.
EQ2 is now probably one of the best mmos around... yeah Blizzard's fans keep upping their numbers (notice how even blizzard isn't saying they got 7 million but everyone else is?) Don't get me wrong, I play EQ2 and WoW but your grudge against soe is pointless.
Good luck with your crusade to single handedly take down SoE. I am sure the guys in the white coats will comfort you.
Thanks ,But I am not alone ,it smore like Nobodies cares about my blog or my truth.
IF there are need for any white coats needed here, its for the MMO abuse handed out by SOE.
If you have a problem with me go talk to SOE about it. I am Prema banned and that is quite liberating.
I read your blog and you just come off sounding petty and immature. You've been burned, you clearly still want to play SWG, but you've only got yourself to blame for been antagonistic on the forums. Let. It. Go.
And if you think SOE is the only company to change their TOS you may want to take a closer look at WoW, as theirs has been changed numerous times...
Originally posted by reavo DAoC is my favorite MMO, but I would recommend EQ2 over it right now, simply because DAoC's population is so low. But I never have trouble finding a group in EQ2.
Im not sure how things are right at this moment, but like 3 months ago DAOC and EQ2 EACH only had 1-2 populated servers really, and it is more difficult to find groups in EQ2 to do normal quests IMO, though all ppl do in both games are Instances/Task dungeons.
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I know you're a brainless troll that hates all things SoE but not playing a game because of a publisher is retarded. I bet you hate Sigil too? Did you know some SoE employees work for Blizzard now as well? Better stop playing that... oh, even Bioware hired some old SoE exmployees. Damn, it's an infection! You can't play anything... might as well go back to your console games.
http://www.greycouncil.org/
I know you're a brainless troll (No, you don't know anything - You are a loyal SOE customer) that hates all things SoE but not playing a game because of a publisher is retarded ( even I need furthur explaintion of that thought). I bet you hate Sigil too ( nope Sigil is paying SOE to be is Mailroom boy - great utilization oF SOE!) Did you know some SoE employees work for Blizzard now as well? (they wised up maybe you should too! Better stop playing that... oh, even Bioware hired some old SoE exmployees Rats jumping a sinking ship - wise rats. Damn, it's an infection! You can't play anything... might as well go back to your console games Back to console? - console is for kiddie. SOE is working on PSP and PS3 because they have fail to maintain their MMO business, why? .
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oh cool, thoose posts really answered my questions!
seriusly, go make your own topics....
I know you won't understand it but really, move on.
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They have the worst PVP rank system ever conceived and god forbid you just want to PVP... raid or die or like SOE players base, just die.
I need more explanation of your thoughts or lack of.
let me show you then
http://www.mmorpgchart.com/Chart2.html
325k to 180k , EQ2 numbers are indeed falling like all SOE's MMOS.
The bands plays continues to play after the good ship SOE hits the WoW iceberg . Enjoy your dance.
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I started a new character at 11:00 Sunday night, and even that late the PvP servers and every single PvE server but one was in the red. In fact all the PvP servers *and* the expanded PvE servers all reach high load every single night.
WoW on the other hand looks to be bleeding players like mad in the NA market, and stalling in the European market. The $1 per month they get from their 5 million Chinese subscribers does not offset these losses. Most veteran MMO players have tired of Blizzards bait and switch lied and it’s showing in their NA server populations.
Before WoW market analysed believed that the online game market would never get a customer base higher than 500k, Everquest was concidered a roaring success. So much so that a little company called Blizzard decided it was worth their while to create their own MMO.
Without Everquest there would be no WoW.
Madonna can sell millions of records, but just because I only make enough to cover my lifestyle from playing sessions doesn't mean I'm a failure.
Well , My Eq2 Playing friends.
Without feet, no shoes would be invented but if some ones invents Nikes and everyone buys them then who is stuck with some dirty old feet?
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Not true, most market analysts expected SWG to hit 1 million subscribers and several Asian games had multiple millions of subscribers long before WoW was released. WoW did two things that were different, first it succeeded in both the North American and Asian markets. Asia always brings in more total subscribers while North America always brings in more total dollars. In North America Blizzard is no bigger then SOE at it’s peak and in Asia Blizzard is no bigger then NCSoft at it’s peak. The second big thing WoW did was breakthrough in Europe, which hadn’t had a major hit prior to WoW.
Blizzard is not a "little company" it's part of Vivendi Universal’s games division, and VU is one of the largest entertainment conglomerates in the world. Since neither report their earnings independently it isn’t really accurate to call either Blizzard or SOE a company since neither has any independent status.
Not true, most market analysts expected SWG to hit 1 million subscribers and several Asian games had multiple millions of subscribers long before WoW was released. WoW did two things that were different, first it succeeded in both the North American and Asian markets. Asia always brings in more total subscribers while North America always brings in more total dollars. In North America Blizzard is no bigger then SOE at it’s peak and in Asia Blizzard is no bigger then NCSoft at it’s peak. The second big thing WoW did was breakthrough in Europe, which hadn’t had a major hit prior to WoW.
Blizzard is not a "little company" it's part of Vivendi Universal’s games division, and VU is one of the largest entertainment conglomerates in the world. Since neither report their earnings independently it isn’t really accurate to call either Blizzard or SOE a company since neither has any independent status.
I didn't mean just before WoW. I meant before WoW was even a concept. it was an article I read back in the day that said MMOs would be a niche market and unlikely to break Everquests subscriber base, even SWG never broke 500k, so up to a point it was correct. I've just been searching google for the article and I can't find it, so I guess I have nothing to back it up.
I know how big WoW/Blizzard is. "Little company" was just me being ironic.
PLEASE make your own topic, i dont care about you guys arguing.... or whatever your doing...
Of all the MMO's I've ever played, I have maintained my subscription to EQ2 the longest. I have been playing it since two days after it came out. EQ2 had a bit of a rocky start but it has changed considerably. And each patch they do it just keeps getting better. DAoC is my favorite MMO, but I would recommend EQ2 over it right now, simply because DAoC's population is so low. But I never have trouble finding a group in EQ2. Give me 10 mins from logging in and come check and I guarantee you I will have a group in EQ2 doing something fun and different each time. There is a lot to do, cool people to play with, nice quests, and it looks kick ass as well.
I hope you start playing. You're going to love it, I'm sure.
To the OP:
EQ2 is a good game, still...but if they keep dumbing it down, it is going to start sucking.
Jestor, buddy:
Much as I aknowladge the SOE hate...you pick WoW
WoW is nothing more that a finely polished turd supported by a few million Bnet kiddies and 4 million asian gold farmers.
Oh, yeah, and it has set back MMOG's by like 10 years.
Wrong , SOE picked WoW for me . Read my blog http://blog.myspace.com/lovethatjestor
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i said: if your going to keep talking about this, make your own freaking topic!
yeah its seems really fun to play! only problem is when i play it keeps pupping up there ATI recovery things, or whatever it is, havent really checked what it is yet, think its has something with my graphic card to do...
but i can tell people to shut up.....
The fact is you can't let go of SoE games because of some mis-perceived idea that they cheated you. Well as I said before many of those folks work for Blizzard. Infact the worst part of WoW (the end game) has been created by EQ1 lovers.
You are just hypocritical and need to give it up. You're acting like a child that is throwing a fit and won't stop.
EQ2 is now probably one of the best mmos around... yeah Blizzard's fans keep upping their numbers (notice how even blizzard isn't saying they got 7 million but everyone else is?) Don't get me wrong, I play EQ2 and WoW but your grudge against soe is pointless.
Good luck with your crusade to single handedly take down SoE. I am sure the guys in the white coats will comfort you.
http://www.greycouncil.org/
The fact is you can't let go of SoE games because of some mis-perceived idea that they cheated you. Well as I said before many of those folks work for Blizzard. Infact the worst part of WoW (the end game) has been created by EQ1 lovers.
You are just hypocritical and need to give it up. You're acting like a child that is throwing a fit and won't stop.
EQ2 is now probably one of the best mmos around... yeah Blizzard's fans keep upping their numbers (notice how even blizzard isn't saying they got 7 million but everyone else is?) Don't get me wrong, I play EQ2 and WoW but your grudge against soe is pointless.
Good luck with your crusade to single handedly take down SoE. I am sure the guys in the white coats will comfort you.
Thanks ,But I am not alone ,it smore like Nobodies cares about my blog or my truth.
IF there are need for any white coats needed here, its for the MMO abuse handed out by SOE.
If you have a problem with me go talk to SOE about it. I am Prema banned and that is quite liberating.
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Good luck finding a mmo to make your forget about SoE.
http://www.greycouncil.org/
The fact is you can't let go of SoE games because of some mis-perceived idea that they cheated you. Well as I said before many of those folks work for Blizzard. Infact the worst part of WoW (the end game) has been created by EQ1 lovers.
You are just hypocritical and need to give it up. You're acting like a child that is throwing a fit and won't stop.
EQ2 is now probably one of the best mmos around... yeah Blizzard's fans keep upping their numbers (notice how even blizzard isn't saying they got 7 million but everyone else is?) Don't get me wrong, I play EQ2 and WoW but your grudge against soe is pointless.
Good luck with your crusade to single handedly take down SoE. I am sure the guys in the white coats will comfort you.
Thanks ,But I am not alone ,it smore like Nobodies cares about my blog or my truth.
IF there are need for any white coats needed here, its for the MMO abuse handed out by SOE.
If you have a problem with me go talk to SOE about it. I am Prema banned and that is quite liberating.
I read your blog and you just come off sounding petty and immature. You've been burned, you clearly still want to play SWG, but you've only got yourself to blame for been antagonistic on the forums. Let. It. Go.
And if you think SOE is the only company to change their TOS you may want to take a closer look at WoW, as theirs has been changed numerous times...
The fact is you can't let go of SoE games because of some mis-perceived idea that they cheated you. Well as I said before many of those folks work for Blizzard. Infact the worst part of WoW (the end game) has been created by EQ1 lovers.
You are just hypocritical and need to give it up. You're acting like a child that is throwing a fit and won't stop.
EQ2 is now probably one of the best mmos around... yeah Blizzard's fans keep upping their numbers (notice how even blizzard isn't saying they got 7 million but everyone else is?) Don't get me wrong, I play EQ2 and WoW but your grudge against soe is pointless.
Good luck with your crusade to single handedly take down SoE. I am sure the guys in the white coats will comfort you.
Thanks ,But I am not alone ,it smore like Nobodies cares about my blog or my truth.
IF there are need for any white coats needed here, its for the MMO abuse handed out by SOE.
If you have a problem with me go talk to SOE about it. I am Prema banned and that is quite liberating.
I read your blog and you just come off sounding petty and immature. You've been burned, you clearly still want to play SWG, but you've only got yourself to blame for been antagonistic on the forums. Let. It. Go.
And if you think SOE is the only company to change their TOS you may want to take a closer look at WoW, as theirs has been changed numerous times...
NO. my EQ1 and EQ2 SOE brainwashed Friend
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Still, Theyre both equally great IMO.
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