Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by ConverseSC Damn the religious right for impeding my right to prostitution and drugs.
Could you please tell me where in the constitution that it allows for the abolishment of personal freedoms on the basis that it is "morally wrong"?
Well, I certainly could try, but I'd rather ask how does that actually have to do with anything I said? I was simply pointing out to you that you might want to take a few of those examples out of your post, unless your really advocating prostitution and drug use, and were under some kind of absurb belief that the only reason these acts are illegal is because of religion. Well it was sarcastic, and therefore opposite of what I was saying, so you apparently believe that it is right to impede on certain freedoms because they are "morally wrong". And of course I know that those weren't the only reasons that drugs and prostitution were illegalized; drugs were illegalized for economic purposes, and prostitution for the spread of disease. But the main reasons behind there illegalization would be because they are considered wrong, whilst they harm no one othere than those involved.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
People should have the right to inflict self-harm, as long as it has no dire outward consequences. If it doesn't bother you, why should you care? A people have a right to themselves, for good and bad.
Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by ConverseSC Damn the religious right for impeding my right to prostitution and drugs.
Could you please tell me where in the constitution that it allows for the abolishment of personal freedoms on the basis that it is "morally wrong"?
Well, I certainly could try, but I'd rather ask how does that actually have to do with anything I said? I was simply pointing out to you that you might want to take a few of those examples out of your post, unless your really advocating prostitution and drug use, and were under some kind of absurb belief that the only reason these acts are illegal is because of religion. Well it was sarcastic, and therefore opposite of what I was saying, so you apparently believe that it is right to impede on certain freedoms because they are "morally wrong". And of course I know that those weren't the only reasons that drugs and prostitution were illegalized; drugs were illegalized for economic purposes, and prostitution for the spread of disease. But the main reasons behind there illegalization would be because they are considered wrong, whilst they harm no one othere than those involved.
So, let me ask you a question friend. Should suicide be legal as well?
As for your question, no, I don't think its right to create laws based on individual moralities, but I do think that the laws that exist (for the most part) are needed, no matter what the reasoning behind them is.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
Isn't alcohol self-detrimental? I don't see any laws prohibiting it, and I don't know where I'd be without it.
Originally posted by kimosabe Originally posted by ConverseSC
I swear, I lose faith in you people every day.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
People should have the right to inflict self-harm, as long as it has no dire outward consequences. If it doesn't bother you, why should you care? A people have a right to themselves, for good and bad.
Well, then I suppose I disagree. I was under some wild assumption that it my government was supposed to protect me. Whether it be from others or myself. The simple fact is that these "rights" you proclaim, do not exist. At least not in America. They never have and never will (okay, there are exceptions. Like that Cathouse place). I suggest moving to Amsterdam friend.
Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by Dabble Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by ConverseSC Damn the religious right for impeding my right to prostitution and drugs.
Could you please tell me where in the constitution that it allows for the abolishment of personal freedoms on the basis that it is "morally wrong"?
Well, I certainly could try, but I'd rather ask how does that actually have to do with anything I said? I was simply pointing out to you that you might want to take a few of those examples out of your post, unless your really advocating prostitution and drug use, and were under some kind of absurb belief that the only reason these acts are illegal is because of religion. What is wrong with prostitution and drugs? Did I not get the memo?
I second that.
Dude, you're stupid. I am going to find you and fight you.
Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by kimosabe Originally posted by ConverseSC
I swear, I lose faith in you people every day.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
People should have the right to inflict self-harm, as long as it has no dire outward consequences. If it doesn't bother you, why should you care? A people have a right to themselves, for good and bad.
Well, then I suppose I disagree. I was under some wild assumption that it my government was supposed to protect me. Whether it be from others or myself. The simple fact is that these "rights" you proclaim, do not exist. At least not in America. They never have and never will (okay, there are exceptions. Like that Cathouse place). I suggest moving to Amsterdam friend.
The government wasn't designed to protect people from themselves, but from itself and others. Our government is not supposed to take the role of "big brother," hence the bill of rights.
Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by ConverseSC
I swear, I lose faith in you people every day.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
Isn't alcohol self-detrimental? I don't see any laws prohibiting it, and I don't know where I'd be without it.
Please. Even if the same laws SHOULD logically apply to both drugs and alcohol, we both know it won't happen. Alcohal is too accepted and intergrated into society. Too much money comes from it, and its one of the last vices we have that we can actually..well, do. Trust me, I know the importance of beer my friend. I do live in a college dorm.
Originally posted by Ivannatinkle Let me rephrase: There was a reason America was intended to have a separation of church and state. We need to have that again.
It never was intended.
Quit listening to those fools in the media.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by ConverseSC
I swear, I lose faith in you people every day.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
Isn't alcohol self-detrimental? I don't see any laws prohibiting it, and I don't know where I'd be without it.
Please. Even if the same laws SHOULD logically apply to both drugs and alcohol, we both know it won't happen. Alcohal is too accepted and intergrated into society. Too much money comes from it, and its one of the last vices we have that we can actually..well, do. Trust me, I know the importance of beer my friend. I do live in a college dorm. Go live in a frat and you'll know the importance of illegal, white powdery things.
Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by kimosabe Originally posted by ConverseSC
I swear, I lose faith in you people every day.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
People should have the right to inflict self-harm, as long as it has no dire outward consequences. If it doesn't bother you, why should you care? A people have a right to themselves, for good and bad.
Well, then I suppose I disagree. I was under some wild assumption that it my government was supposed to protect me. Whether it be from others or myself. The simple fact is that these "rights" you proclaim, do not exist. At least not in America. They never have and never will (okay, there are exceptions. Like that Cathouse place). I suggest moving to Amsterdam friend.
LOL!!!
So you truly believe that the United States government cares for your well being?!?!?!?!?
Their only goal is to be elected and maintain the status quo.
Marijuana is illegal. Alcohol is not.
How many DUI deaths occured due to marijuana consumption compared alcohol?
Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by ConverseSC
I swear, I lose faith in you people every day.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
Isn't alcohol self-detrimental? I don't see any laws prohibiting it, and I don't know where I'd be without it.
Please. Even if the same laws SHOULD logically apply to both drugs and alcohol, we both know it won't happen. Alcohal is too accepted and intergrated into society. Too much money comes from it, and its one of the last vices we have that we can actually..well, do. Trust me, I know the importance of beer my friend. I do live in a college dorm. So what is the problem with Illegal drugs? Alcohol kills and destroys more people and families each year than any other drug.
Originally posted by Dabble Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by kimosabe Originally posted by ConverseSC
I swear, I lose faith in you people every day.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
People should have the right to inflict self-harm, as long as it has no dire outward consequences. If it doesn't bother you, why should you care? A people have a right to themselves, for good and bad.
Well, then I suppose I disagree. I was under some wild assumption that it my government was supposed to protect me. Whether it be from others or myself. The simple fact is that these "rights" you proclaim, do not exist. At least not in America. They never have and never will (okay, there are exceptions. Like that Cathouse place). I suggest moving to Amsterdam friend.
LOL!!!
So you truly believe that the United States government cares for your well being?!?!?!?!?
Their only goal is to be elected and maintain the status quo.
Marijuana is illegal. Alcohol is not.
How many DUI deaths occured due to marijuana consumption compared alcohol?
Hmmmmm?
Of course they don't really care.
That doesn't change the fact that their laws are aimed towards protecting people.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense for Marijuana to be illegal while you can buy beer at any ungodly hour and hop behind a wheel. Congratulations Sir. You are the King of the Obvious.
Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by ConverseSC Originally posted by modjoe86 Originally posted by ConverseSC
I swear, I lose faith in you people every day.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
Isn't alcohol self-detrimental? I don't see any laws prohibiting it, and I don't know where I'd be without it.
Please. Even if the same laws SHOULD logically apply to both drugs and alcohol, we both know it won't happen. Alcohal is too accepted and intergrated into society. Too much money comes from it, and its one of the last vices we have that we can actually..well, do. Trust me, I know the importance of beer my friend. I do live in a college dorm. So what is the problem with Illegal drugs? Alcohol kills and destroys more people and families each year than any other drug.
I don't know. I'm not trying to get into government conspiracies. The theories about all the money being in "brown" countries. You know, the CIA introducing crack and cocaine into black communities, US military secretely shipping illegal merchandise overseas, etc. etc. Fact is, people won't accept drugs being legalized. I agree with this because it will only make it easier for others to hurt themselves. I suppose I don't suffer from indifference toward my fellow man as some of you happen to. People accept alcohol. Its "mainstream", and already a VERY important part of American society, culture, and economy.
I don't care how many movies you've seen, nose candy does not compare.
Originally posted by Aldaron Originally posted by Ivannatinkle Let me rephrase: There was a reason America was intended to have a separation of church and state. We need to have that again.
It never was intended.
Quit listening to those fools in the media.
I don't. Read history.
"In 1947, in the case Everson v. Board of Education, the Supreme Court declared, “The First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach.”
Originally posted by Ivannatinkle Originally posted by Aldaron Originally posted by Ivannatinkle Let me rephrase: There was a reason America was intended to have a separation of church and state. We need to have that again.
It never was intended.
Quit listening to those fools in the media.
I don't. Read history.
"In 1947, in the case Everson v. Board of Education, the Supreme Court declared, “The First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach.”
Right, because those relativistic twits that have held Supreme Court justice positions over the ages actually know the difference between their ass and their head - Which is probably quite excusable, considering where one usually resides - Let alone how to read a very clear, and blatant constitution, without bias, or agenda.
The day you take some 20th-21st century politician's ruling/opinion as supposed "original intention" is the day you join the flock of the brainless.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
This topic should be locked.... <_< If your posting somthing just to call Americans stupid then I don't think you have the right to do that under the terms of the website.
Originally posted by Rikimaru_X This topic should be locked.... <_< If your posting somthing just to call Americans stupid then I don't think you have the right to do that under the terms of the website.
But the title is "See this is why most people think Americans are stupid...
Nothin against the RoC for that. But it is true, in comparison to other countries, the US is stupid.
Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by Ivannatinkle There was a reason America separated church from state. Of course, how George W. fits that bill, I don't know....
What separation of church and state? I don't see one. Gay marriage is banned to "keep the sacred institution of marriage," prostitution is illegalized because it is "adultary," drugs, gambling, and other things are thought of as immorale and therefore illegalized. So no, I don't see a separation of church and state.
You're right.
When you get right down too it, there really is NO separation of church and state.
BUT! The only good thing is, marriage isn't ran by the church. It's ran by the state. If it was ran by the church, than only christian/catholics would be allowed to get married.
Thankfully it isn't like that. But that's all that's good.
Originally posted by LilithIshtar Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by Ivannatinkle There was a reason America separated church from state. Of course, how George W. fits that bill, I don't know....
What separation of church and state? I don't see one. Gay marriage is banned to "keep the sacred institution of marriage," prostitution is illegalized because it is "adultary," drugs, gambling, and other things are thought of as immorale and therefore illegalized. So no, I don't see a separation of church and state.
You're right.
When you get right down too it, there really is NO separation of church and state.
BUT! The only good thing is, marriage isn't ran by the church. It's ran by the state. If it was ran by the church, than only christian/catholics would be allowed to get married.
Thankfully it isn't like that. But that's all that's good.
@ Literally too.
I'm not glad that anyone could kick our ass in a war, I happen to live here... Either we should stop pissing people off, or become the single best military nation on earth.. but I disagree with the latter.
Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by LilithIshtar Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by Ivannatinkle There was a reason America separated church from state. Of course, how George W. fits that bill, I don't know....
What separation of church and state? I don't see one. Gay marriage is banned to "keep the sacred institution of marriage," prostitution is illegalized because it is "adultary," drugs, gambling, and other things are thought of as immorale and therefore illegalized. So no, I don't see a separation of church and state.
You're right.
When you get right down too it, there really is NO separation of church and state.
BUT! The only good thing is, marriage isn't ran by the church. It's ran by the state. If it was ran by the church, than only christian/catholics would be allowed to get married.
Thankfully it isn't like that. But that's all that's good.
@ Literally too.
I'm not glad that anyone could kick our ass in a war, I happen to live here... Either we should stop pissing people off, or become the single best military nation on earth.. but I disagree with the latter.
Oh no no, you missread me.
I doubt China will come kick our ass anyways. So far we're on "okay" terms with them. But what I ment was that because we are on "okay" terms with them, if worse comes to worse, we can use them like an ally. If they are willing to of course. So far, that's a no. :d
But ye, sadly America isn't the best military on Earth. X.x And we never will be if we keep sending our young men out to be shot for NO reason what so ever.
There are already more woman than there are men. -.- Not that Im complaing, more girls for me. ^^
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Well, I certainly could try, but I'd rather ask how does that actually have to do with anything I said? I was simply pointing out to you that you might want to take a few of those examples out of your post, unless your really advocating prostitution and drug use, and were under some kind of absurb belief that the only reason these acts are illegal is because of religion.
Well it was sarcastic, and therefore opposite of what I was saying, so you apparently believe that it is right to impede on certain freedoms because they are "morally wrong". And of course I know that those weren't the only reasons that drugs and prostitution were illegalized; drugs were illegalized for economic purposes, and prostitution for the spread of disease. But the main reasons behind there illegalization would be because they are considered wrong, whilst they harm no one othere than those involved.
I swear, I lose faith in you people every day.
I'm not going to bother explaining why laws that prohibit self-detrimental activities exist, as it is nothing more than plain logic, and if you lack that, then there's no real reason to discuss anything with you.
Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.
Well, I certainly could try, but I'd rather ask how does that actually have to do with anything I said? I was simply pointing out to you that you might want to take a few of those examples out of your post, unless your really advocating prostitution and drug use, and were under some kind of absurb belief that the only reason these acts are illegal is because of religion.
Well it was sarcastic, and therefore opposite of what I was saying, so you apparently believe that it is right to impede on certain freedoms because they are "morally wrong". And of course I know that those weren't the only reasons that drugs and prostitution were illegalized; drugs were illegalized for economic purposes, and prostitution for the spread of disease. But the main reasons behind there illegalization would be because they are considered wrong, whilst they harm no one othere than those involved.
So, let me ask you a question friend. Should suicide be legal as well?
As for your question, no, I don't think its right to create laws based on individual moralities, but I do think that the laws that exist (for the most part) are needed, no matter what the reasoning behind them is.
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Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.
Well, then I suppose I disagree. I was under some wild assumption that it my government was supposed to protect me. Whether it be from others or myself. The simple fact is that these "rights" you proclaim, do not exist. At least not in America. They never have and never will (okay, there are exceptions. Like that Cathouse place). I suggest moving to Amsterdam friend.
Well, I certainly could try, but I'd rather ask how does that actually have to do with anything I said? I was simply pointing out to you that you might want to take a few of those examples out of your post, unless your really advocating prostitution and drug use, and were under some kind of absurb belief that the only reason these acts are illegal is because of religion.
What is wrong with prostitution and drugs? Did I not get the memo?
I second that.
Dude, you're stupid. I am going to find you and fight you.
Well, then I suppose I disagree. I was under some wild assumption that it my government was supposed to protect me. Whether it be from others or myself. The simple fact is that these "rights" you proclaim, do not exist. At least not in America. They never have and never will (okay, there are exceptions. Like that Cathouse place). I suggest moving to Amsterdam friend.
The government wasn't designed to protect people from themselves, but from itself and others. Our government is not supposed to take the role of "big brother," hence the bill of rights.
Please. Even if the same laws SHOULD logically apply to both drugs and alcohol, we both know it won't happen. Alcohal is too accepted and intergrated into society. Too much money comes from it, and its one of the last vices we have that we can actually..well, do. Trust me, I know the importance of beer my friend. I do live in a college dorm.
It never was intended.
Quit listening to those fools in the media.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Please. Even if the same laws SHOULD logically apply to both drugs and alcohol, we both know it won't happen. Alcohal is too accepted and intergrated into society. Too much money comes from it, and its one of the last vices we have that we can actually..well, do. Trust me, I know the importance of beer my friend. I do live in a college dorm.
Go live in a frat and you'll know the importance of illegal, white powdery things.
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Well, then I suppose I disagree. I was under some wild assumption that it my government was supposed to protect me. Whether it be from others or myself. The simple fact is that these "rights" you proclaim, do not exist. At least not in America. They never have and never will (okay, there are exceptions. Like that Cathouse place). I suggest moving to Amsterdam friend.
LOL!!!
So you truly believe that the United States government cares for your well being?!?!?!?!?
Their only goal is to be elected and maintain the status quo.
Marijuana is illegal. Alcohol is not.
How many DUI deaths occured due to marijuana consumption compared alcohol?
Hmmmmm?
Please. Even if the same laws SHOULD logically apply to both drugs and alcohol, we both know it won't happen. Alcohal is too accepted and intergrated into society. Too much money comes from it, and its one of the last vices we have that we can actually..well, do. Trust me, I know the importance of beer my friend. I do live in a college dorm.
So what is the problem with Illegal drugs? Alcohol kills and destroys more people and families each year than any other drug.
Well, then I suppose I disagree. I was under some wild assumption that it my government was supposed to protect me. Whether it be from others or myself. The simple fact is that these "rights" you proclaim, do not exist. At least not in America. They never have and never will (okay, there are exceptions. Like that Cathouse place). I suggest moving to Amsterdam friend.
LOL!!!
So you truly believe that the United States government cares for your well being?!?!?!?!?
Their only goal is to be elected and maintain the status quo.
Marijuana is illegal. Alcohol is not.
How many DUI deaths occured due to marijuana consumption compared alcohol?
Hmmmmm?
Of course they don't really care.
That doesn't change the fact that their laws are aimed towards protecting people.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense for Marijuana to be illegal while you can buy beer at any ungodly hour and hop behind a wheel. Congratulations Sir. You are the King of the Obvious.
Please. Even if the same laws SHOULD logically apply to both drugs and alcohol, we both know it won't happen. Alcohal is too accepted and intergrated into society. Too much money comes from it, and its one of the last vices we have that we can actually..well, do. Trust me, I know the importance of beer my friend. I do live in a college dorm.
So what is the problem with Illegal drugs? Alcohol kills and destroys more people and families each year than any other drug.
I don't know. I'm not trying to get into government conspiracies. The theories about all the money being in "brown" countries. You know, the CIA introducing crack and cocaine into black communities, US military secretely shipping illegal merchandise overseas, etc. etc. Fact is, people won't accept drugs being legalized. I agree with this because it will only make it easier for others to hurt themselves. I suppose I don't suffer from indifference toward my fellow man as some of you happen to. People accept alcohol. Its "mainstream", and already a VERY important part of American society, culture, and economy.
I don't care how many movies you've seen, nose candy does not compare.
I forgot what we were arguing about.
It never was intended.
Quit listening to those fools in the media.
I don't. Read history.
"In 1947, in the case Everson v. Board of Education,
the Supreme Court declared, “The First Amendment has erected a wall between
church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not
approve the slightest breach.”
It never was intended.
Quit listening to those fools in the media.
I don't. Read history.
"In 1947, in the case Everson v. Board of Education, the Supreme Court declared, “The First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach.”
Right, because those relativistic twits that have held Supreme Court justice positions over the ages actually know the difference between their ass and their head - Which is probably quite excusable, considering where one usually resides - Let alone how to read a very clear, and blatant constitution, without bias, or agenda.
The day you take some 20th-21st century politician's ruling/opinion as supposed "original intention" is the day you join the flock of the brainless.
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Nothin against the RoC for that. But it is true, in comparison to other countries, the US is stupid.
You're right.
When you get right down too it, there really is NO separation of church and state.
BUT! The only good thing is, marriage isn't ran by the church. It's ran by the state.
If it was ran by the church, than only christian/catholics would be allowed to get married.
Thankfully it isn't like that. But that's all that's good.
@ Literally too.
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You're right.
When you get right down too it, there really is NO separation of church and state.
BUT! The only good thing is, marriage isn't ran by the church. It's ran by the state.
If it was ran by the church, than only christian/catholics would be allowed to get married.
Thankfully it isn't like that. But that's all that's good.
@ Literally too.
I'm not glad that anyone could kick our ass in a war, I happen to live here... Either we should stop pissing people off, or become the single best military nation on earth.. but I disagree with the latter.
You're right.
When you get right down too it, there really is NO separation of church and state.
BUT! The only good thing is, marriage isn't ran by the church. It's ran by the state.
If it was ran by the church, than only christian/catholics would be allowed to get married.
Thankfully it isn't like that. But that's all that's good.
@ Literally too.
I'm not glad that anyone could kick our ass in a war, I happen to live here... Either we should stop pissing people off, or become the single best military nation on earth.. but I disagree with the latter.
Oh no no, you missread me.
I doubt China will come kick our ass anyways. So far we're on "okay" terms with them. But what I ment was that because we are on "okay" terms with them, if worse comes to worse, we can use them like an ally. If they are willing to of course. So far, that's a no. :d
But ye, sadly America isn't the best military on Earth. X.x And we never will be if we keep sending our young men out to be shot for NO reason what so ever.
There are already more woman than there are men. -.- Not that Im complaing, more girls for me. ^^
Independant, Shinto, Lesbian, and Proud!
