There was a note on the TC blue frog regarding "doctor buffs" last time I saw the frog.
They had to push everything else aside and fix all the combat classes immediately. Which for SOE means 6-12 months as you know. Subs have been dropping quickly since Jedi expertise totally unbalanced the game. Again.
I think they expected to see a signiificant rebound with Chapter 3 and the return of TKA and Pistoleer in the Smuggler expertise tree. Chapter 3 sucks. I had a Smuggler. I ran about 25 delivery "Smuggling" missions and cancelled my sub.
I'm not the only one. The GCW changes suck. This game is poisoned like the movie Crank and just hasn't run out of steam yet. Wildcat is right - one more poor Christmas and this baby is toast early in 2007.
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by War_Dancer Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by Shayde Last time they cancelled a much-ballyhooed revamp was the Scout/Ranger one.. in favor of the nge.
Nope they set back the entertainer revamp as well , If I am not mistaken .
I don't think so, Entertainers had sort of been picked at over time, removed battle fatigue, new crafter buffs, etc. I think it was squad leader and ranger revamps that were trampled with the NGE.
Yeah.. they never really put any work into it nor set a release time.
I could of sworn , Early post NGE . The entertainer revamp being due right after jedi or BH . But pushed back due to player feedback . Maybe I am imagining things /shrug.
Weren't they supposed to get combat abilitys ? I for some reason remember helios stating the same BS excuse for their set back . Because Entertainers had a fit about getting combat skills.
Oops, my bad. I thought you meant just prior to the NGE and not the 'tacking on combat skills to entertainer cause we can't think of what else to do for them' revamp they were going to do during the NGE. Sounds like a Helios answer to a problem to me 'let them all be combat professions!'.
The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed.
I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise.
Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
Originally posted by Obraik The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed. I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise. Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
It hasnt been canceled yet, but it will be. Helios want crafters gone period. They now they are out of time when it comes to finishing the expertice for all combat profs before the launch of the complete experince bullcrap in november. This will flop and game be sunset. Can you say pre-CU?
Hauken Stormchaser I want pre-CU back Station.com : We got your game Yeah?, Well i want it back!!!
Originally posted by Obraik The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed. I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise. Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
Correct me if I am wrong (wich I probably am), but wasnt the crafter revamp supposed to be part of Chapter 4? If thats the case, then it has been cancelled. Atleast untill further notice.
Originally posted by Obraik The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed. I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise. Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
Yeah? Give me the publish the ENTERTAINER revamp was rescheduled to after virtually the SAME announcement?
Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by Obraik The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed. I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise. Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
Yeah? Give me the publish the ENTERTAINER revamp was rescheduled to after virtually the SAME announcement?
Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by Obraik The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed. I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise. Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
Yeah? Give me the publish the ENTERTAINER revamp was rescheduled to after virtually the SAME announcement?
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Chapter 6
Chapter 6 so far. It hasnt happened yet. And even if entertainers actually get thier revamp in chapter 6, all that does is say to crafters that they could be waiting a year or better for thier revamp. IF they get one at all.
Originally posted by Apache_ Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by Obraik The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed. I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise. Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
Yeah? Give me the publish the ENTERTAINER revamp was rescheduled to after virtually the SAME announcement?
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Chapter 6
Chapter 6 so far. It hasnt happened yet. And even if entertainers actually get thier revamp in chapter 6, all that does is say to crafters that they could be waiting a year or better for thier revamp. IF they get one at all.
Well, Chapter 4 is the last publish for combatant expertise. That leaves chapter 5 & 6 for Crafter and Ents. Whether Chapter 5 & 6 happens before the end of the year is probably unlikely.
Well that removes another temptation for me to come back.
Obraik, I understand what you're saying about it just being postponed, but you should know better than most how paranoid most of the folks that play this game are. They'll see this announcement as proof that crafting is going by the wayside/game is getting sunset/NGE2 is coming out/ etc.
I mean, this is bound to turn into some sub loss, no matter what. I don't really see any good news for the game from this announcement.
I suppose we part company here Obraik. Chapters 5 and 6 will probably not happen at all.
SOE should NEVER have phased in expertise. That killed my guild. Again. Another tremendous error and this one cost them far more subs than a crafter revamp will bring in.
Hell without decay and with loot items being better than crafted what do crafters matter anyway? Furniture, food and ships?
Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by Apache_ Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by Obraik The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed. I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise. Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
Yeah? Give me the publish the ENTERTAINER revamp was rescheduled to after virtually the SAME announcement?
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Chapter 6
Chapter 6 so far. It hasnt happened yet. And even if entertainers actually get thier revamp in chapter 6, all that does is say to crafters that they could be waiting a year or better for thier revamp. IF they get one at all.
Well, Chapter 4 is the last publish for combatant expertise. That leaves chapter 5 & 6 for Crafter and Ents. Whether Chapter 5 & 6 happens before the end of the year is probably unlikely.
If they were planning to do it in Publish 33 they'd say so. Why? If for no other reason than to calm the forums.
They have not done so.
Until they SAY it's in Pub 33, 34, 35, 36, whatever, (I refuse to use chapters, never have never will), it's not planned "In Publish 32 or the near future".
Therefore it's not on the agenda.
Admit it, today was a HUGE nutshot to the NGE. The NGE is going to lose a lot of the remaining crafters who were clinging on for their revamp.
This is now the THIRD time they've been blown off.
Well I mean, this isn't really too unexpected. The game is basically being developed on the fly. We're essentially beta testing it, with the plan being to have it ready around a year from now.
Of course, the point is moot since by then the game will be almost four (five?) years old, with only the most die-hard SW and NGE fans left. It'll linger on in the station pass for awhile, but its definetly not ever going to recover.
Wow. Amazing to see so called "leaders of the MMORPG industry ($OE) act like a bunch of monkeys pulling out wires trying to fix a server. If it wasn't so sad it might actually be funny.
Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by Apache_ Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by Obraik The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed. I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise. Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
Yeah? Give me the publish the ENTERTAINER revamp was rescheduled to after virtually the SAME announcement?
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Chapter 6
Chapter 6 so far. It hasnt happened yet. And even if entertainers actually get thier revamp in chapter 6, all that does is say to crafters that they could be waiting a year or better for thier revamp. IF they get one at all.
Well, Chapter 4 is the last publish for combatant expertise. That leaves chapter 5 & 6 for Crafter and Ents. Whether Chapter 5 & 6 happens before the end of the year is probably unlikely.
If they were planning to do it in Publish 33 they'd say so. Why? If for no other reason than to calm the forums.
They have not done so.
Until they SAY it's in Pub 33, 34, 35, 36, whatever, (I refuse to use chapters, never have never will), it's not planned "In Publish 32 or the near future".
Therefore it's not on the agenda.
Admit it, today was a HUGE nutshot to the NGE. The NGE is going to lose a lot of the remaining crafters who were clinging on for their revamp.
This is now the THIRD time they've been blown off.
It was said in the dev chat tonight that something will be posted in the Crafter forums in the coming days, so we'll have to see what that brings.
I don't think many, if any crafter subs will be lost. If they're playing a crafter now it's because they can enjoy what they have now. I know that's the case for me.
It was said in the dev chat tonight that something will be posted in the Crafter forums in the coming days, so we'll have to see what that brings.
I don't think many, if any crafter subs will be lost. If they're playing a crafter now it's because they can enjoy what they have now. I know that's the case for me.
LOL. How's the weather there in FantasyLand Obie? Er I mean New Zealand.
MANY crafters were hanging out hoping for a fix to the crappy system that's in place now. You watch....finding a crafter in the next week will be harder then before. Keep convincing yourself this game isn't on life support. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt my man....
Originally posted by iskareot ... This team needs to be fired and Helios should go first. I have never seen things so set up and then not delivered. I mean, this is predictiable but still... I hope someone uses LOGIC now.
But...what is a court without a Jester?
It's a sign of how bad things have gotten over there when those who say the cancellation was a good thing because their opinion of the devs is even worse than those opposed to the cancellation.
Having to chose between bad and worse is NOT good.
edit: oh, and this part was good:
I'm sure this will come up at the Stratics Chat tonight, so there might be more info to be had there.
There are certain people who would come here and say the game shutting down is a positive and doesn't mean that the NGE has failed.
Canceling the crafter revamp (which is half the game) is H U G E. It is the beginning of the end of SWG and the NGE. They are going to throw the last 3 combat profession expertise into the last publish the game will ever see unless classic servers come back. That will play out over Christmas and the subs still fall.
Originally posted by Wildcat84 There are certain people who would come here and say the game shutting down is a positive and doesn't mean that the NGE has failed.
Canceling the crafter revamp (which is half the game) is H U G E. It is the beginning of the end of SWG and the NGE. They are going to throw the last 3 combat profession expertise into the last publish the game will ever see unless classic servers come back. That will play out over Christmas and the subs still fall.
That leads to the game closing down in 1Q 2007.
I feel that it is a positive step. Furthermore, I wish that, so that a SWG 2 may possibly be developed. Developed in a way that brings back the classic version married with some sort of new content and gameplay that has been discussed in previous discussions. The crafting system's complexity wasn't difficult, but brought a dimension to the game that set it apart from others. I would like to see that make a come back, but with more complexity. Anyway, just my 2 cents from a SWG Vet from the very beginning, for whatever it's worth..
Sorry Wildcat, have you looked at the Crafter forums? There's no mass protest threads, most people on them are pleased they've put it off. Please, research before you try represent a playerbase you are no longer a member of.
Originally posted by Obraik Sorry Wildcat, have you looked at the Crafter forums? There's no mass protest threads, most people on them are pleased they've put it off. Please, research before you try represent a playerbase you are no longer a member of.
obraik. i dont want to be mean or anything but... you support NGE right?? soo..... why are you in a SWF veteran refuge if you dont want pre-cu back? this is for the people who hate NGE .. not the people who love NGE.. thats on the SWG website it self...
just wondering..
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Originally posted by Nasedoo Originally posted by Obraik Sorry Wildcat, have you looked at the Crafter forums? There's no mass protest threads, most people on them are pleased they've put it off. Please, research before you try represent a playerbase you are no longer a member of.
obraik. i dont want to be mean or anything but... you support NGE right?? soo..... why are you in a SWF veteran refuge if you dont want pre-cu back? this is for the people who hate NGE .. not the people who love NGE.. thats on the SWG website it self...
just wondering..
"SWG Veteran Refuge A place for disgruntled former and current SWG players to talk about the game that was and the game that now is, as well as for newcomers who are curious about the issues surrounding the changes that this game has undergone. *Note, MMORPG.com RoC will still be enforced."
Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by Nasedoo Originally posted by Obraik Sorry Wildcat, have you looked at the Crafter forums? There's no mass protest threads, most people on them are pleased they've put it off. Please, research before you try represent a playerbase you are no longer a member of.
obraik. i dont want to be mean or anything but... you support NGE right?? soo..... why are you in a SWF veteran refuge if you dont want pre-cu back? this is for the people who hate NGE .. not the people who love NGE.. thats on the SWG website it self...
just wondering..
"SWG Veteran Refuge A place for disgruntled former and current SWG players to talk about the game that was and the game that now is, as well as for newcomers who are curious about the issues surrounding the changes that this game has undergone. *Note, MMORPG.com RoC will still be enforced."
why do we want to talk about SWG NGE? thats in... General Discussion ,, this is where NGE haters talk...
thats why NGE haters was force to move to Veteran refurge.. and general discussion is for the NGE lovers..if there is any...
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Comments
There was a note on the TC blue frog regarding "doctor buffs" last time I saw the frog.
They had to push everything else aside and fix all the combat classes immediately. Which for SOE means 6-12 months as you know. Subs have been dropping quickly since Jedi expertise totally unbalanced the game. Again.
I think they expected to see a signiificant rebound with Chapter 3 and the return of TKA and Pistoleer in the Smuggler expertise tree. Chapter 3 sucks. I had a Smuggler. I ran about 25 delivery "Smuggling" missions and cancelled my sub.
I'm not the only one. The GCW changes suck. This game is poisoned like the movie Crank and just hasn't run out of steam yet. Wildcat is right - one more poor Christmas and this baby is toast early in 2007.
I don't think so, Entertainers had sort of been picked at over time, removed battle fatigue, new crafter buffs, etc. I think it was squad leader and ranger revamps that were trampled with the NGE.
Yeah.. they never really put any work into it nor set a release time.
I could of sworn , Early post NGE . The entertainer revamp being due right after jedi or BH . But pushed back due to player feedback . Maybe I am imagining things /shrug.
Weren't they supposed to get combat abilitys ? I for some reason remember helios stating the same BS excuse for their set back . Because Entertainers had a fit about getting combat skills.
Oops, my bad. I thought you meant just prior to the NGE and not the 'tacking on combat skills to entertainer cause we can't think of what else to do for them' revamp they were going to do during the NGE. Sounds like a Helios answer to a problem to me 'let them all be combat professions!'.
The title of this post is misleading. It hasn't been cancelled, it's been delayed.
I think the main reason for this is due to people, such as the OP, bitching on the forums that the combat classes were unbalanced with some having expertise and some being left without. So, now Chapter 4 includes Medic, Commando and Spy, which would mean all the combat classes are done. That then leaves them to work on the crafters and entertainers with out the pressure of the combat community protesting for the remaining expertise.
Personally, I think Entertainers should get a revamp before we crafters do. Entertainers haven't had appeal to all professions since the CU.
They now they are out of time when it comes to finishing the expertice for all combat profs before the launch of the complete experince bullcrap in november. This will flop and game be sunset.
Can you say pre-CU?
Hauken Stormchaser
I want pre-CU back
Station.com : We got your game
Yeah?, Well i want it back!!!
Correct me if I am wrong (wich I probably am), but wasnt the crafter revamp supposed to be part of Chapter 4? If thats the case, then it has been cancelled. Atleast untill further notice.
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Chapter 6
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Chapter 6
Chapter 6 so far. It hasnt happened yet. And even if entertainers actually get thier revamp in chapter 6, all that does is say to crafters that they could be waiting a year or better for thier revamp. IF they get one at all.
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Chapter 6
Chapter 6 so far. It hasnt happened yet. And even if entertainers actually get thier revamp in chapter 6, all that does is say to crafters that they could be waiting a year or better for thier revamp. IF they get one at all.
Well, Chapter 4 is the last publish for combatant expertise. That leaves chapter 5 & 6 for Crafter and Ents. Whether Chapter 5 & 6 happens before the end of the year is probably unlikely.
Obraik, I understand what you're saying about it just being postponed, but you should know better than most how paranoid most of the folks that play this game are. They'll see this announcement as proof that crafting is going by the wayside/game is getting sunset/NGE2 is coming out/ etc.
I mean, this is bound to turn into some sub loss, no matter what. I don't really see any good news for the game from this announcement.
NGE Refugee.
I suppose we part company here Obraik. Chapters 5 and 6 will probably not happen at all.
SOE should NEVER have phased in expertise. That killed my guild. Again. Another tremendous error and this one cost them far more subs than a crafter revamp will bring in.
Hell without decay and with loot items being better than crafted what do crafters matter anyway? Furniture, food and ships?
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Chapter 6
Chapter 6 so far. It hasnt happened yet. And even if entertainers actually get thier revamp in chapter 6, all that does is say to crafters that they could be waiting a year or better for thier revamp. IF they get one at all.
Well, Chapter 4 is the last publish for combatant expertise. That leaves chapter 5 & 6 for Crafter and Ents. Whether Chapter 5 & 6 happens before the end of the year is probably unlikely.
If they were planning to do it in Publish 33 they'd say so. Why? If for no other reason than to calm the forums.
They have not done so.
Until they SAY it's in Pub 33, 34, 35, 36, whatever, (I refuse to use chapters, never have never will), it's not planned "In Publish 32 or the near future".
Therefore it's not on the agenda.
Admit it, today was a HUGE nutshot to the NGE. The NGE is going to lose a lot of the remaining crafters who were clinging on for their revamp.
This is now the THIRD time they've been blown off.
Of course, the point is moot since by then the game will be almost four (five?) years old, with only the most die-hard SW and NGE fans left. It'll linger on in the station pass for awhile, but its definetly not ever going to recover.
NGE Refugee.
Wow. Amazing to see so called "leaders of the MMORPG industry ($OE) act like a bunch of monkeys pulling out wires trying to fix a server. If it wasn't so sad it might actually be funny.
Change the game's name to SWG:LS
Star Wars Galaxies: Life Support.
Stick a fork in it....it's DONE.
Tossed aside plus no new date=cancelled aka:
"Not in Publish 32 or in the near future"
Chapter 6
Chapter 6 so far. It hasnt happened yet. And even if entertainers actually get thier revamp in chapter 6, all that does is say to crafters that they could be waiting a year or better for thier revamp. IF they get one at all.
Well, Chapter 4 is the last publish for combatant expertise. That leaves chapter 5 & 6 for Crafter and Ents. Whether Chapter 5 & 6 happens before the end of the year is probably unlikely.
If they were planning to do it in Publish 33 they'd say so. Why? If for no other reason than to calm the forums.
They have not done so.
Until they SAY it's in Pub 33, 34, 35, 36, whatever, (I refuse to use chapters, never have never will), it's not planned "In Publish 32 or the near future".
Therefore it's not on the agenda.
Admit it, today was a HUGE nutshot to the NGE. The NGE is going to lose a lot of the remaining crafters who were clinging on for their revamp.
This is now the THIRD time they've been blown off.
It was said in the dev chat tonight that something will be posted in the Crafter forums in the coming days, so we'll have to see what that brings.
I don't think many, if any crafter subs will be lost. If they're playing a crafter now it's because they can enjoy what they have now. I know that's the case for me.
It was said in the dev chat tonight that something will be posted in the Crafter forums in the coming days, so we'll have to see what that brings.
I don't think many, if any crafter subs will be lost. If they're playing a crafter now it's because they can enjoy what they have now. I know that's the case for me.
LOL. How's the weather there in FantasyLand Obie? Er I mean New Zealand.
MANY crafters were hanging out hoping for a fix to the crappy system that's in place now. You watch....finding a crafter in the next week will be harder then before. Keep convincing yourself this game isn't on life support. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt my man....
But...what is a court without a Jester?
It's a sign of how bad things have gotten over there when those who say the cancellation was a good thing because their opinion of the devs is even worse than those opposed to the cancellation.
Having to chose between bad and worse is NOT good.
edit: oh, and this part was good:
I'm sure this will come up at the Stratics Chat tonight, so there might be more info to be had there.
Stratics...info...riiiiight... /confused
There are certain people who would come here and say the game shutting down is a positive and doesn't mean that the NGE has failed.
Canceling the crafter revamp (which is half the game) is H U G E. It is the beginning of the end of SWG and the NGE. They are going to throw the last 3 combat profession expertise into the last publish the game will ever see unless classic servers come back. That will play out over Christmas and the subs still fall.
That leads to the game closing down in 1Q 2007.
obraik. i dont want to be mean or anything but... you support NGE right?? soo..... why are you in a SWF veteran refuge if you dont want pre-cu back? this is for the people who hate NGE .. not the people who love NGE.. thats on the SWG website it self...
just wondering..
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
obraik. i dont want to be mean or anything but... you support NGE right?? soo..... why are you in a SWF veteran refuge if you dont want pre-cu back? this is for the people who hate NGE .. not the people who love NGE.. thats on the SWG website it self...
just wondering..
"SWG Veteran Refuge
A place for disgruntled former and current SWG players to talk about the game that was and the game that now is, as well as for newcomers who are curious about the issues surrounding the changes that this game has undergone. *Note, MMORPG.com RoC will still be enforced."
obraik. i dont want to be mean or anything but... you support NGE right?? soo..... why are you in a SWF veteran refuge if you dont want pre-cu back? this is for the people who hate NGE .. not the people who love NGE.. thats on the SWG website it self...
just wondering..
"SWG Veteran Refuge
A place for disgruntled former and current SWG players to talk about the game that was and the game that now is, as well as for newcomers who are curious about the issues surrounding the changes that this game has undergone. *Note, MMORPG.com RoC will still be enforced."
why do we want to talk about SWG NGE? thats in... General Discussion ,, this is where NGE haters talk...
thats why NGE haters was force to move to Veteran refurge.. and general discussion is for the NGE lovers..if there is any...
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.