Right, I'm glad you understand my point....in that those who riticule and mock gays are wrong...but so are those gays who go out and announce it to the world and expect no backlash from it...in addition to being wrong though, they completely undermine those people who are REALLY hurting from such riticule.
It's not that I'm bitter or anything...it's that so much of my young life consisted of crying in a car to my mother because nobody would just leave me alone...and now I see and hear shit like this, and it really bothers me. I have completely gotten over all of the mockery, but that doesn't mean that it hasn't changed me and my views in some ways...pluss it helped me get buff, which is good
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
----------------------------- Listen Asmodeeus, seven years ago, Ultima Online didn't even have those pathetic "quests" that you refer to or those "professions" of ninja, samurai, necromancer, and paladin. Nor did it have any of the neon crap, or bug mounts. It didn't even have any "combat moves." You turned on attack and jousted with simplistic swings. It was a better game then. if you can't guess why then just uninstall the thing and move along. - Crabby
- an exhibition on animal homosexuality INTRODUCTION On Thursday October 12 2006 The Natural History Museum, University of Oslo, opened the first-ever museum exhibition dedicated to gay animals. Today we know that homosexuality is a common and widespread phenomenon in the animal world. Not only short-lived sexual relationships, but even long-lasting partnerships; partnerships that may last a lifetime. The exhibit puts on display a small selection among the more than 1500 species where homosexuality have been observed. This fascinating story of the animals' secret life is told by means of models, photos, texts and specimens. The visitor will be confronted with all sorts of creatures from tiny insects to enormous spermwhales. How can we know that an animal is homosexual? How can homosexual behaviour be consistent with what we have learned about evolution and darwinism? Sadly, most museums have no traditions for airing difficult, concealed, and possibly controversial questions. Homosexuality is certainly such a question. We feel confident that a greater understanding of how extensive and common this behaviour is among animals, will help to de-mystify homosexuality among people. - At least, we hope to reject the all too well known argument that homosexual behaviour is a crime against nature.
Man these people don't have anything better to do with themselves?
For years, homosexual activists have tried to make the case that theres a special homosexual gene hiding in the gene pool. Yet, that simply doesnt explain why one human twin might pursue a homosexual lifestyle and another would not.
The trouble with museum exhibits like this one is that they try to sell children on the idea that homosexual sex is not an aberrationa claim that can lead to justification of same sex marriage. With liberals such as these running scientific exhibits and some schools, we can fully expect a version of the storybook The Three Little Pigs to give rise to The Three Gay Pigs.
If homosexuality were truly strong in the animal kingdom, there would be no animals left, since they would be unable and unwilling to reproduce. Again, based on no knowledge of science whatsoever. Homosexual activity among animals has been observed frequently by zoologists. A quick search on the National Geographic website (a well known liberal/pervert media source I know) will turn up lots of titillating reading.
Originally posted by outfctrl For years, homosexual activists have tried to make the case that theres a special homosexual gene hiding in the gene pool. Yet, that simply doesnt explain why one human twin might pursue a homosexual lifestyle and another would not. The trouble with museum exhibits like this one is that they try to sell children on the idea that homosexual sex is not an aberrationa claim that can lead to justification of same sex marriage. With liberals such as these running scientific exhibits and some schools, we can fully expect a version of the storybook The Three Little Pigs to give rise to The Three Gay Pigs. If homosexuality were truly strong in the animal kingdom, there would be no animals left, since they would be unable and unwilling to reproduce. Again, based on no knowledge of science whatsoever. Homosexual activity among animals has been observed frequently by zoologists. A quick search on the National Geographic website (a well known liberal/pervert media source I know) will turn up lots of titillating reading.
Of course homosexuality isn't "strong" in the animal kingdom. It isn't "strong" in humans either.
But no matter what you do, there will ALWAYS be homosexuals.
It's not like we're going to go hide under a rock and vanish after all.
Originally posted by JoHosephat The author of that article is a "frickin' moron!" "Omigawdness, animals are teh gay, it must mean it's natural!" Apparantly he forgot animals are also known to eat their young, overall cannibalism, "murder", rape, necrophilia, and the list goes on. Wasn't there one article a bit back about some kind of bird raping the corpse of another bird of the same sex? Yah, bet that'd go well in todays world, "Homosexual necrophilia is natural! Everyone rape their dead!" They fail at logic...life, and the universe. They are the anti-42.
How the hell do you get off saying that they fail at logic? Are you retarded? Murder is natural, people do it all the time, cannibalism happens too, along with rape, necrophillia and all sorts of things that HUMANS DO ALSO! The thing about homosexuality, is that IT DOESN'T FUCKING HARM ANYONE, unlike all of the other things on your list, that ARE ALSO NATURAL.
And obviously you didn't even read that article about the bird, because that was about a duck not realizing that the other duck had died while in mating.
As an English major I can say with all certainty than I really don't care that I can't spell very well...here's why:
Anything that is important enough for spelling to matter will also be important enough to type out...in such a case I will always have spell check to make sure I don't look like a fool when writing formally...so next time you feel like being a smart ass, ask yourself what the overall point was, instead of just running to dictionary.com in order to try and make me, or someone else feel stupid...because it's not going to work with me.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
As an English major, you shouldn't need spell check to spell simple ass words like ridicule.
Maybe all those kids were right. That spot made you stupid.
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Oh, but while I am here, keep the personal insults/flaming to a minimum, in fact, non-existant, or I'll be forced to pull out the delete sticker.
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Originally posted by JoHosephat The author of that article is a "frickin' moron!" "Omigawdness, animals are teh gay, it must mean it's natural!" Apparantly he forgot animals are also known to eat their young, overall cannibalism, "murder", rape, necrophilia, and the list goes on. Wasn't there one article a bit back about some kind of bird raping the corpse of another bird of the same sex? Yah, bet that'd go well in todays world, "Homosexual necrophilia is natural! Everyone rape their dead!" They fail at logic...life, and the universe. They are the anti-42.
How the hell do you get off saying that they fail at logic? Are you retarded? Murder is natural, people do it all the time, cannibalism happens too, along with rape, necrophillia and all sorts of things that HUMANS DO ALSO! The thing about homosexuality, is that IT DOESN'T FUCKING HARM ANYONE, unlike all of the other things on your list, that ARE ALSO NATURAL.
And obviously you didn't even read that article about the bird, because that was about a duck not realizing that the other duck had died while in mating.
Get off of your fucking high horse.
"Holmes, I think we pushed a button!"
"Indeed Watson, indeed..."
Hey Cap'n, how 'bout you go play dodgeball and either hit/get hit, until all that teenage angst is out of your overly angry teenage body.
But firstly, you at least got my point. That anything, if done by biological lifeforms, could be considered "natural". And as such, the asininity of these pro-homosexual activists trying to somehow "normalize" the homosexual lifestyle, by saying it is "natural", would be as obtuse as someone argueing the case of legalizing rampant murder/rape/whatever poison of the human mind you wish to pick. Thus making their point null and void, which you so aptly proved for me. So I thank you for that.
Secondly, you're wrong, it never stated the duck was unaware of the creatures death, it did say that the dead creature was in most likelihood flying away from the other one because of an apparant rape in flight(pun intended, and literally), which apparantly is common in mallards - But stating the mallards ignorance in such a cases is an unfactual assumption.
Originally posted by porgie Yeah, and us heterosexuals are never in your face to the gay community. They've got negative remarks coming at them from all sides. When something comes along to give them a little bit of a positive message I think it's fine. I feel bad for gay people. I can't imagine what it's like living in a world like they have to.
Oh please.
Of course gay hatred exists in the world, but it's not as though homosexuals are forced to live in a giant bubble where we point and laugh at them and tell them that they are going to hell.
The problem with saying that they get negative remarks all the time is that...well...I just don't give a damn, and do you know why? Because when I was a little boy, I was teased, picked on, made fun of, and bullied constantly and mercilessly....do you know why? Because I have a round birth mark right in the middle of my forehead.
Dot boy, mole man, target face, the list of names that I was called for seven years in a row goes on and on.
What does that have to do with gay hatred? I'll tell you!
As a little boy, I couldn't help but wish that I didn't have this stupid thing on my forehead, this stupid thing that I couldn't hide even if I wanted to...I just wanted to be left alone. If you think that I might be exaggerating the torment that I endured, then ask yourself...what would life have been like for a little boy at your elementary and middle school, a little boy with a fucking DOT on his forehead. I wished that I could hide it, but I simply couldn't.
So I went through elementary school like that, taking all the jokes and laughs...and then I hit high school, hopefully we will have some maturity here! Not as much as I had hoped. So you know what I did? I did something about it. I begun to lfit weights every day, by the end of my freshman year, I had put on 10 pounds of muscle and was well on my way to being big enough to never be bothered about my birth mark again. So I continued on that path until I was a senior..and had gained a total of 40 pounds of muscle over the course of four years. How many kids do you think were messing with me at that point? Oh sure, every now and then some fool would say something to me, but he quickly regretted it.
My point is, I was born with something that I absolutely cannot do anything about, and cannot hide. I took my beatings and reticule for it...riticule that I did not deserve. And now the homosexual community that wants to parade around shoving their obviously outside-the-norm lifestyle into our faces, expects to not be treated with some degree of hostility? WAKE THE FUCK UP. Don't argue that homosexuality is human nature when you know damn good and well that it's human nature to riticule something that you aren't used to; human nature works both ways, not as your own justification. I'm not saying that it's right for people to riticule you, but dammit if you don't want to catch so much flack for it, then stop shoving it in everyone's face every five seconds! Do you realize what I would have done to make this dot on my forehead go away when I was in elementary school? I would have killed to be able to hide this thing. And now some people want to take something like their sexuality and try to shove it in my face and expect for me to just stand there and nod my head and eat it all up?
Sorry, but I have gone through too much pain as a result of something that I cannot hide to feel sorry for you...keep it to yourself, tell your family and friends. If you are riticuled by your family then I feel honest and true compassion for you...but don't try to march down the street waving a banner that says "we're here, we're queer, get used to it!" and expect to not recieve any kind of criticism. I don't march down the street with a banner that says "I HAVE A DOT ON MY FOREHEAD PLEASE DON'T MAKE FUN OF ME FOR IT"
I am not, and have never been homophobic in any way, so don't pull that card with me...this goes for everything, if you don't want to be riticuled for something, then don't draw so much damn attention to yourself.
flame away.
So you're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to being denied equal legal status on things like inheritance and wills or things heterosexuals get automatically? You're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to having your family dump you when they are told the truth about you? You're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to having people scorn you to hell??? Or maybe that round birthmark on your head cost you a job opportunity.
Since coming to these boards I've read of all of those incidences happening to homosexuals. I don't think a round birthmark would cause you such grief as those events.
Originally posted by outfctrl For years, homosexual activists have tried to make the case that theres a special homosexual gene hiding in the gene pool. Yet, that simply doesnt explain why one human twin might pursue a homosexual lifestyle and another would not. The trouble with museum exhibits like this one is that they try to sell children on the idea that homosexual sex is not an aberrationa claim that can lead to justification of same sex marriage. With liberals such as these running scientific exhibits and some schools, we can fully expect a version of the storybook The Three Little Pigs to give rise to The Three Gay Pigs. If homosexuality were truly strong in the animal kingdom, there would be no animals left, since they would be unable and unwilling to reproduce. Again, based on no knowledge of science whatsoever. Homosexual activity among animals has been observed frequently by zoologists. A quick search on the National Geographic website (a well known liberal/pervert media source I know) will turn up lots of titillating reading.
There's more research going on than just tracking down a gene that makes someone gay. If you were to do a search you would find that most scientists aren't even looking in that direction anymore. They are more convinced that it is something that happens to the fetus while it is in the mothers womb. The fetus is exposed to a number of hormones that influence it's development. And a little too much of one hormone or a little less of another and things can go one way or the other.
Oh, and if you look at research done on twins the incidence of gay twins is higher than other siblings. There was also another report that came out a few months ago that the more boys a mother had the higher the incidence of homosexuality in the later births. Which pointed to the mothers body treating the fetus as a threat to her body. Back to the hormone thing.
Originally posted by JoHosephat Originally posted by Xexima Originally posted by JoHosephat The author of that article is a "frickin' moron!" "Omigawdness, animals are teh gay, it must mean it's natural!" Apparantly he forgot animals are also known to eat their young, overall cannibalism, "murder", rape, necrophilia, and the list goes on. Wasn't there one article a bit back about some kind of bird raping the corpse of another bird of the same sex? Yah, bet that'd go well in todays world, "Homosexual necrophilia is natural! Everyone rape their dead!" They fail at logic...life, and the universe. They are the anti-42.
How the hell do you get off saying that they fail at logic? Are you retarded? Murder is natural, people do it all the time, cannibalism happens too, along with rape, necrophillia and all sorts of things that HUMANS DO ALSO! The thing about homosexuality, is that IT DOESN'T FUCKING HARM ANYONE, unlike all of the other things on your list, that ARE ALSO NATURAL.
And obviously you didn't even read that article about the bird, because that was about a duck not realizing that the other duck had died while in mating.
Get off of your fucking high horse.
"Holmes, I think we pushed a button!"
"Indeed Watson, indeed..."
Hey Cap'n, how 'bout you go play dodgeball and either hit/get hit, until all that teenage angst is out of your overly angry teenage body.
But firstly, you at least got my point. That anything, if done by biological lifeforms, could be considered "natural". And as such, the asininity of these pro-homosexual activists trying to somehow "normalize" the homosexual lifestyle, by saying it is "natural", would be as obtuse as someone argueing the case of legalizing rampant murder/rape/whatever poison of the human mind you wish to pick. Thus making their point null and void, which you so aptly proved for me. So I thank you for that.
Secondly, you're wrong, it never stated the duck was unaware of the creatures death, it did say that the dead creature was in most likelihood flying away from the other one because of an apparant rape in flight(pun intended, and literally), which apparantly is common in mallards - But stating the mallards ignorance in such a cases is an unfactual assumption.
Firstly, don't flame people for being younger, its idiotic. This is a forum, age means absolutely nothing here.
secondly, how the hell do you get a way with relating homosexuality with rape, murder, and "whatever other poison of the human mind." Your comparing companionship and love with killing, and forcing sex. I have to say that you are ridiculous. I don't care whatever the fuck your faith is and says, Homosexuals(by choice or not) in general, are regular people. NOT RAPISTS and NOT MURDERERS. Treat them as you would any one else and as said by many many other people, "GET OFF OF YOUR FUCKING HIGH HORSE"
Good day to you sir, I say good day.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Can I just point out that there is definitely no such thing as a "gay gene". Genes simply don't work like that. There is a gene for haemoglobin, there is a gene for lactase, but there is no gene for "gay".
All a gene does is instruct a cell how to combine amino acids to manufacture a protein. If there was a protein present only in homosexuals I think we would have found it.
Originally posted by outfctrl Can I just point out that there is definitely no such thing as a "gay gene". Genes simply don't work like that. There is a gene for haemoglobin, there is a gene for lactase, but there is no gene for "gay".
All a gene does is instruct a cell how to combine amino acids to manufacture a protein. If there was a protein present only in homosexuals I think we would have found it.
I posted this up above, but I guess it got lost in the forum fray...
There's more research going on than just tracking down a gene that makes someone gay. If you were to do a search you would find that most scientists aren't even looking in that direction anymore. They are more convinced that it is something that happens to the fetus while it is in the mothers womb. The fetus is exposed to a number of hormones that influence it's development. And a little too much of one hormone or a little less of another and things can go one way or the other.
Oh, and if you look at research done on twins the incidence of gay twins is higher than other siblings. There was also another report that came out a few months ago that the more boys a mother had the higher the incidence of homosexuality in the later births. Which pointed to the mothers body treating the fetus as a threat to her body. Back to the hormone thing.
Originally posted by outfctrl For years, homosexual activists have tried to make the case that theres a special homosexual gene hiding in the gene pool. Yet, that simply doesnt explain why one human twin might pursue a homosexual lifestyle and another would not. The trouble with museum exhibits like this one is that they try to sell children on the idea that homosexual sex is not an aberrationa claim that can lead to justification of same sex marriage. With liberals such as these running scientific exhibits and some schools, we can fully expect a version of the storybook The Three Little Pigs to give rise to The Three Gay Pigs. If homosexuality were truly strong in the animal kingdom, there would be no animals left, since they would be unable and unwilling to reproduce. Again, based on no knowledge of science whatsoever. Homosexual activity among animals has been observed frequently by zoologists. A quick search on the National Geographic website (a well known liberal/pervert media source I know) will turn up lots of titillating reading.
I always get to wonder how some of the youth think in such a bigoted and narrowminded way... did you ever thought that if the children of today thought that homosexuality is not an aberration there would be much less gay bashing, and homophobia in the world of tomorrow? or do you really think that this kind of hatred is nice and should be indulged into children? 10-15% of the population is gay (in both animals and humans world) and yet ppl feel they have a right to insult or even judge them... Do you really think that normalization of homosexuality is a bad thing? do you really think that heterosexuals will turn homosexuals because it would be normal? so why does homosexuals dont turn into heterosexuals in countries were they even have the death penalty for those who practice homosexuality? Look at Iraq... in June young men were hanged because of their homosexuality... do you think that's the way it should be?....
People like you can only think about themselves, that's utter egoism and selfishness... do you think your God will welcome someone like you? my bet is you wont go to your heaven with such thoughts and ways of thinking... but that's just me....
Originally posted by outfctrl Can I just point out that there is definitely no such thing as a "gay gene". Genes simply don't work like that. There is a gene for haemoglobin, there is a gene for lactase, but there is no gene for "gay".
All a gene does is instruct a cell how to combine amino acids to manufacture a protein. If there was a protein present only in homosexuals I think we would have found it.
do you know that some biological behaviours and psycological features are transmitted in genes? there is various studies about it... stop making stuff up please. (i m not saying there is a gay gene, but i m not saying it doesnt , or making stuff up)
So you're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to being denied equal legal status on things like inheritance and wills or things heterosexuals get automatically? You're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to having your family dump you when they are told the truth about you? You're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to having people scorn you to hell??? Or maybe that round birthmark on your head cost you a job opportunity.
Since coming to these boards I've read of all of those incidences happening to homosexuals. I don't think a round birthmark would cause you such grief as those events.
No, you missed the point...I'm comparing having a round birthmark on my forehead and being made fun of it to these activists who march down the streets flaunting their abnormal lifestyle, but expect to not be RIDICULED.
(I spelled it right for you, and being a bad speller doesn't make me stupid, skill in sentence fluidity is much more important than remember how to spell certain words, the fact that you corrected me simply makes you an asshat)
If you do not believe that I have encountered as much or more ridicule than your average homosexual then you are sadly mistaken...But what makes me sad is not the average homosexual...it's the agendized homosexual who feels the need to march down the streets saying "HEY LOOK AT ME" but expects no negative reaction from the public...the public is going to react negatively to any sort of "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M DIFFERENT" tirade from ANY group...I'm not sure why homosexuals feel that they are supposed to be the exception to this rule.
I have reiterated this point time and time again, but I'll do it one more time...I'm not saying that mockery of any group based on who they are is right...because it isn't. What I am saying is that these activists who march down the street waving their flags cheapen the real struggle that goes on among those that just want to be left alone and treated fairly.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Originally posted by MisfitZ Maybe all those kids were right. That spot made you stupid.
Yup...It's stuff like this that I had to deal with for all my life...until I hit high school and suddenly I was much bigger than literally all of my classmates...I feel sorry for people like you.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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Right, I'm glad you understand my point....in that those who riticule and mock gays are wrong...but so are those gays who go out and announce it to the world and expect no backlash from it...in addition to being wrong though, they completely undermine those people who are REALLY hurting from such riticule.
It's not that I'm bitter or anything...it's that so much of my young life consisted of crying in a car to my mother because nobody would just leave me alone...and now I see and hear shit like this, and it really bothers me. I have completely gotten over all of the mockery, but that doesn't mean that it hasn't changed me and my views in some ways...pluss it helped me get buff, which is good
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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Listen Asmodeeus, seven years ago, Ultima Online didn't even have those pathetic "quests" that you refer to or those "professions" of ninja, samurai, necromancer, and paladin. Nor did it have any of the neon crap, or bug mounts. It didn't even have any "combat moves." You turned on attack and jousted with simplistic swings. It was a better game then. if you can't guess why then just uninstall the thing and move along. - Crabby
For years, homosexual activists have tried to make the case that theres a
special homosexual gene hiding in the gene pool. Yet, that simply doesnt
explain why one human twin might pursue a homosexual lifestyle and another would
not.
The trouble with museum exhibits like this one is that they try to sell
children on the idea that homosexual sex is not an aberrationa claim that can
lead to justification of same sex marriage. With liberals such as these running
scientific exhibits and some schools, we can fully expect a version of the
storybook The Three Little Pigs to give rise to The Three Gay Pigs.
If homosexuality were truly strong in the animal kingdom, there would be no
animals left, since they would be unable and unwilling to reproduce. Again,
based on no knowledge of science whatsoever. Homosexual activity among animals
has been observed frequently by zoologists. A quick search on the National
Geographic website (a well known liberal/pervert media source I know) will turn
up lots of titillating reading.
In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.
But no matter what you do, there will ALWAYS be homosexuals.
It's not like we're going to go hide under a rock and vanish after all.
Independant, Shinto, Lesbian, and Proud!
And obviously you didn't even read that article about the bird, because that was about a duck not realizing that the other duck had died while in mating.
Get off of your fucking high horse.
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As an English major I can say with all certainty than I really don't care that I can't spell very well...here's why:
Anything that is important enough for spelling to matter will also be important enough to type out...in such a case I will always have spell check to make sure I don't look like a fool when writing formally...so next time you feel like being a smart ass, ask yourself what the overall point was, instead of just running to dictionary.com in order to try and make me, or someone else feel stupid...because it's not going to work with me.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Maybe all those kids were right. That spot made you stupid.
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Listen Asmodeeus, seven years ago, Ultima Online didn't even have those pathetic "quests" that you refer to or those "professions" of ninja, samurai, necromancer, and paladin. Nor did it have any of the neon crap, or bug mounts. It didn't even have any "combat moves." You turned on attack and jousted with simplistic swings. It was a better game then. if you can't guess why then just uninstall the thing and move along. - Crabby
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
And obviously you didn't even read that article about the bird, because that was about a duck not realizing that the other duck had died while in mating.
Get off of your fucking high horse.
"Holmes, I think we pushed a button!"
"Indeed Watson, indeed..."
Hey Cap'n, how 'bout you go play dodgeball and either hit/get hit, until all that teenage angst is out of your overly angry teenage body.
But firstly, you at least got my point. That anything, if done by biological lifeforms, could be considered "natural". And as such, the asininity of these pro-homosexual activists trying to somehow "normalize" the homosexual lifestyle, by saying it is "natural", would be as obtuse as someone argueing the case of legalizing rampant murder/rape/whatever poison of the human mind you wish to pick. Thus making their point null and void, which you so aptly proved for me. So I thank you for that.
Secondly, you're wrong, it never stated the duck was unaware of the creatures death, it did say that the dead creature was in most likelihood flying away from the other one because of an apparant rape in flight(pun intended, and literally), which apparantly is common in mallards - But stating the mallards ignorance in such a cases is an unfactual assumption.
Oh please.
Of course gay hatred exists in the world, but it's not as though homosexuals are forced to live in a giant bubble where we point and laugh at them and tell them that they are going to hell.
The problem with saying that they get negative remarks all the time is that...well...I just don't give a damn, and do you know why? Because when I was a little boy, I was teased, picked on, made fun of, and bullied constantly and mercilessly....do you know why? Because I have a round birth mark right in the middle of my forehead.
Dot boy, mole man, target face, the list of names that I was called for seven years in a row goes on and on.
What does that have to do with gay hatred? I'll tell you!
As a little boy, I couldn't help but wish that I didn't have this stupid thing on my forehead, this stupid thing that I couldn't hide even if I wanted to...I just wanted to be left alone. If you think that I might be exaggerating the torment that I endured, then ask yourself...what would life have been like for a little boy at your elementary and middle school, a little boy with a fucking DOT on his forehead. I wished that I could hide it, but I simply couldn't.
So I went through elementary school like that, taking all the jokes and laughs...and then I hit high school, hopefully we will have some maturity here! Not as much as I had hoped. So you know what I did? I did something about it. I begun to lfit weights every day, by the end of my freshman year, I had put on 10 pounds of muscle and was well on my way to being big enough to never be bothered about my birth mark again. So I continued on that path until I was a senior..and had gained a total of 40 pounds of muscle over the course of four years. How many kids do you think were messing with me at that point? Oh sure, every now and then some fool would say something to me, but he quickly regretted it.
My point is, I was born with something that I absolutely cannot do anything about, and cannot hide. I took my beatings and reticule for it...riticule that I did not deserve. And now the homosexual community that wants to parade around shoving their obviously outside-the-norm lifestyle into our faces, expects to not be treated with some degree of hostility? WAKE THE FUCK UP. Don't argue that homosexuality is human nature when you know damn good and well that it's human nature to riticule something that you aren't used to; human nature works both ways, not as your own justification. I'm not saying that it's right for people to riticule you, but dammit if you don't want to catch so much flack for it, then stop shoving it in everyone's face every five seconds! Do you realize what I would have done to make this dot on my forehead go away when I was in elementary school? I would have killed to be able to hide this thing. And now some people want to take something like their sexuality and try to shove it in my face and expect for me to just stand there and nod my head and eat it all up?
Sorry, but I have gone through too much pain as a result of something that I cannot hide to feel sorry for you...keep it to yourself, tell your family and friends. If you are riticuled by your family then I feel honest and true compassion for you...but don't try to march down the street waving a banner that says "we're here, we're queer, get used to it!" and expect to not recieve any kind of criticism. I don't march down the street with a banner that says "I HAVE A DOT ON MY FOREHEAD PLEASE DON'T MAKE FUN OF ME FOR IT"
I am not, and have never been homophobic in any way, so don't pull that card with me...this goes for everything, if you don't want to be riticuled for something, then don't draw so much damn attention to yourself.
flame away.
So you're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to being denied equal legal status on things like inheritance and wills or things heterosexuals get automatically? You're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to having your family dump you when they are told the truth about you? You're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to having people scorn you to hell??? Or maybe that round birthmark on your head cost you a job opportunity.
Since coming to these boards I've read of all of those incidences happening to homosexuals. I don't think a round birthmark would cause you such grief as those events.
There's more research going on than just tracking down a gene that makes someone gay. If you were to do a search you would find that most scientists aren't even looking in that direction anymore. They are more convinced that it is something that happens to the fetus while it is in the mothers womb. The fetus is exposed to a number of hormones that influence it's development. And a little too much of one hormone or a little less of another and things can go one way or the other.
Oh, and if you look at research done on twins the incidence of gay twins is higher than other siblings. There was also another report that came out a few months ago that the more boys a mother had the higher the incidence of homosexuality in the later births. Which pointed to the mothers body treating the fetus as a threat to her body. Back to the hormone thing.
And obviously you didn't even read that article about the bird, because that was about a duck not realizing that the other duck had died while in mating.
Get off of your fucking high horse.
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"Indeed Watson, indeed..."
Hey Cap'n, how 'bout you go play dodgeball and either hit/get hit, until all that teenage angst is out of your overly angry teenage body.
But firstly, you at least got my point. That anything, if done by biological lifeforms, could be considered "natural". And as such, the asininity of these pro-homosexual activists trying to somehow "normalize" the homosexual lifestyle, by saying it is "natural", would be as obtuse as someone argueing the case of legalizing rampant murder/rape/whatever poison of the human mind you wish to pick. Thus making their point null and void, which you so aptly proved for me. So I thank you for that.
Secondly, you're wrong, it never stated the duck was unaware of the creatures death, it did say that the dead creature was in most likelihood flying away from the other one because of an apparant rape in flight(pun intended, and literally), which apparantly is common in mallards - But stating the mallards ignorance in such a cases is an unfactual assumption.
Firstly, don't flame people for being younger, its idiotic. This is a forum, age means absolutely nothing here.
secondly, how the hell do you get a way with relating homosexuality with rape, murder, and "whatever other poison of the human mind." Your comparing companionship and love with killing, and forcing sex. I have to say that you are ridiculous. I don't care whatever the fuck your faith is and says, Homosexuals(by choice or not) in general, are regular people. NOT RAPISTS and NOT MURDERERS. Treat them as you would any one else and as said by many many other people, "GET OFF OF YOUR FUCKING HIGH HORSE"
Good day to you sir, I say good day.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Can I just point out that there is definitely no such thing as a "gay gene".
Genes simply don't work like that. There is a gene for haemoglobin, there is a
gene for lactase, but there is no gene for "gay".
All a gene does is instruct a
cell how to combine amino acids to manufacture a protein. If there was a protein
present only in homosexuals I think we would have found it.
I posted this up above, but I guess it got lost in the forum fray...
There's more research going on than just tracking down a gene that makes someone gay. If you were to do a search you would find that most scientists aren't even looking in that direction anymore. They are more convinced that it is something that happens to the fetus while it is in the mothers womb. The fetus is exposed to a number of hormones that influence it's development. And a little too much of one hormone or a little less of another and things can go one way or the other.
Oh, and if you look at research done on twins the incidence of gay twins is higher than other siblings. There was also another report that came out a few months ago that the more boys a mother had the higher the incidence of homosexuality in the later births. Which pointed to the mothers body treating the fetus as a threat to her body. Back to the hormone thing.
I posted this up above, but I guess it got lost in the forum fray...
Sorry reav, I missed it
I always get to wonder how some of the youth think in such a bigoted and narrowminded way... did you ever thought that if the children of today thought that homosexuality is not an aberration there would be much less gay bashing, and homophobia in the world of tomorrow? or do you really think that this kind of hatred is nice and should be indulged into children? 10-15% of the population is gay (in both animals and humans world) and yet ppl feel they have a right to insult or even judge them... Do you really think that normalization of homosexuality is a bad thing? do you really think that heterosexuals will turn homosexuals because it would be normal? so why does homosexuals dont turn into heterosexuals in countries were they even have the death penalty for those who practice homosexuality? Look at Iraq... in June young men were hanged because of their homosexuality... do you think that's the way it should be?....
People like you can only think about themselves, that's utter egoism and selfishness... do you think your God will welcome someone like you? my bet is you wont go to your heaven with such thoughts and ways of thinking... but that's just me....
(/rant off)
So you're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to being denied equal legal status on things like inheritance and wills or things heterosexuals get automatically? You're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to having your family dump you when they are told the truth about you? You're comparing having a round birthmark on your head to having people scorn you to hell??? Or maybe that round birthmark on your head cost you a job opportunity.
Since coming to these boards I've read of all of those incidences happening to homosexuals. I don't think a round birthmark would cause you such grief as those events.
No, you missed the point...I'm comparing having a round birthmark on my forehead and being made fun of it to these activists who march down the streets flaunting their abnormal lifestyle, but expect to not be RIDICULED.
(I spelled it right for you, and being a bad speller doesn't make me stupid, skill in sentence fluidity is much more important than remember how to spell certain words, the fact that you corrected me simply makes you an asshat)
If you do not believe that I have encountered as much or more ridicule than your average homosexual then you are sadly mistaken...But what makes me sad is not the average homosexual...it's the agendized homosexual who feels the need to march down the streets saying "HEY LOOK AT ME" but expects no negative reaction from the public...the public is going to react negatively to any sort of "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M DIFFERENT" tirade from ANY group...I'm not sure why homosexuals feel that they are supposed to be the exception to this rule.
I have reiterated this point time and time again, but I'll do it one more time...I'm not saying that mockery of any group based on who they are is right...because it isn't. What I am saying is that these activists who march down the street waving their flags cheapen the real struggle that goes on among those that just want to be left alone and treated fairly.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
What saddens me in you sentences is that you didnt learn anything out of your suffering.
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